I came up with alphabetical logic of death note and character names 😂 · L + D + R : Light find a note book of death meets Ryuk · L -> K : Light after using the note book he starts seeing himself as Kira = Killer) · K vs L : Soon After Kira gets encountered by a rival worthy "L"(World greatest Detective) · K -> L : Kira/light plays a long game of chess to deceive that he is innocent and kill the Hero " L" and takes he's name as a trophy · L meets M + N : Kira/2nd L meets an unpredictable encounter with Near and Mellow who are driven passion to avenge their mentor Hero L's death So simply put The clashes are in sequence K-> L-> M R, Soichiro Yagami making Eye deal with Ryuk. L + R : Light meet Ryuk R -> L : Ryuk ( Spoiler Alert ), Light
The thing I find interesting about Aizawa is that he isn't afraid to question whoever is calling the shots, be it L or Light. He strongly opposed L's methods of detaining Light and Misa even before Light's plan started to work, and now he can see that if the thirteen day rule is fake, Light just became a high-priority suspect again. Even though he doesn't want Light to be Kira, he puts his feelings aside and views the situation objectively.
Aizawa is a great side character because he grounds the series. He's just a regular detective, and it counter balances all of the "quirky" super genius characters.
Mello was about to pull the trigger before being stopped. Mello said himself, Near uses his head and stays calm, Mello is filled with passion. He went into the belly of the underworld and kidnapped 2 people to win, traumatizing an innocent girl and her mother and killing a police detective chasing him. Mello wasn't thinking about beating Near in that moment, he wanted him dead then calmed down.
@@mattgarrett2583Yeah sometimes Mello forgets his true goal, which is ultimately to beat Near, not kill him, COZ he gets too blinded by rage when he feels like he's being talked down upon or being used as a tool by Near.😂😂 So you're both right in a way.
@@happilyevernever4289 Which makes sense as to why Mello shares in Light's red color, but it's lighter. Mello is very much like Light/Kira. Also why Near shares L's blue color, but also lighter. The colors are pretty cool visual storytelling and the details are even deeper.
@@mattgarrett2583 this is what I like about near and mellow theyre both just complte oppisties yet exactly the same/ Mellow is all of L's boldness while near is all of L's tact without mellow near wouldve never found out Light was kira and with out near mellow wouldve never been able to stop light
@@rayolaserr Near is mine. L is amazing of course, but the second part of the show is just as good as the first. If not better honestly, Light vs L was very restricting when it comes to big things happening.
I think Light's line about the winner deciding justice is one of the most interesting lines in the show. There is some objectivity in justice in the sense that justice's purpose is to prevent behavior that is destructive towards society, but what a healthy society looks like is something mostly defined by simply what most people agree a healthy society looks like. There's lot of behavior our society sees as just, that another country may see as unjust, and vice versa. There's a cultural element to justice, and if Kira's culture becomes dominant, it becomes a legitimate philosophy of justice, and people who grow up in a Kira culture won't even see it as strange. The biggest flaw however in Kira's idea of justice is the concentration of power and lack of due process, it's most similar to dictator governance. A dictatorship can be appealing because it is actually really efficient if you give power to someone wise and moral, but the problem is the good leader won't live forever, eventually you will get an abusive or unintelligent leader and they will wreak havoc without a balance of powers to stop them. And without a due process , even the good dictator will make mistakes that harm innocent people accidentally more often than a fair trial. Democracy and due process aren't perfect, but they are very stable over long periods of time and much better than the alternatives. So Kira's justice isn't actually very strange, before the rise of democracy, dictatorship / kingdom governance was the dominant form of justice in human history. It's not surprising that people would be okay with such a system, but if they try the system for long enough the cracks will reveal.
Also the thing Light says about the winner deciding Justice, it’s the same line as the winner writing history, right? The winner skews it so that they can keep winning because the alternate choice is to be the loser and the winner KNOWS how little mercy is given to the loser and instead of aiding the loser, making the “losing” outcome less horrific, instead hurts the loser more, therefore abusing their power they have through winning AND in the process becoming the very horrifying thing the loser faces itself. The horror the loser faces that the winner is trying to desperately avoid isn’t coming from somewhere else, it is directly coming from the winner’s actions, something that a poor winner absolutely fails to see and rectify, and a good winner WILL see and give proper Justice, based in CARE, in lessening their hardship, towards the loser.
Something I wish was explored in the show more is the fact that people have started posting names on the Internet for Kira to write. People would *absolutely* abuse that kind of power and it's possible Light might've killed a lot of innocent people that way, so it would have been incredibly interesting to explore some of it.
Did Light actually took names posted by random people on the internet seriously? The anime implied that was just something people believed it’d work, so another tool for Kira to scare them into behaving, but not something he actually did.
I don’t think he’d bother, his thing is to kill people that already committed a crime and he has access to the criminal database. I think he’s already aware that people would possibly wrongly accuse others of getting away with certain crimes on the internet to get him to kill them.
@@Victor-qx3vx I don't think he would bit corrupt people with power could influence what names are being broadcast as criminals which we know light follows. Besides that crime wouldn't actually stop. People would just frame someone else to take the fall.
Oh no, even worse.. If you ever used Quora, you'll know there's people posting questions that are ridiculous, but also claiming different crap.. "My kid is 13 and they did this.." then they post something like, "i'm a 15yr old girl, what if" and the next question is "i'm 42 and..." like.. if you were posting names on the internet trying to get people killed, Light would of for sure killed the person posting wanting a classmate killed.. No doubt. He goes from punishing criminals to punishing people who dont fulfill their potential.. The guy that stopped being a lawyer to persue music? Dead. The guy in his 40s working at mc donalds? dead. Homeless guys, people who took out a go fund me for a vacation, people posting tiktoks of their car collection for internet clout, dating guru's.. all of them are gone once Light and Mikami got the ball rolling
He mention it once as it was normal, but Light has always had direct access to the police database, he never paid much attention to Internet randoms. Surely he killed a couple of those that people asked for and that gained him popularity, but surely it was not intentional.
Actually it’s the opposite for the death vs devil comment. Near considers Kira to be someone worth less than a maggot so he would consider light to be the devil as they are someone truly evil, while Ryuk is someone who gives the ability to kill.
That just depends on your view of “the ultimate Evil” Is the Devil(Satan) the ultimate evil, or is Death itself the ultimate evil. Almost everyone fears death while only some people fear the devil. The “Devil 😈” could also just be a random demon or trickster, influencing your actions(“the devil on your shoulder”) That describes Ryuuk very well
14:51 i believe its a theme to make the meanings ambiguous and obscured. one could make a case for both light being death or light being the devil in this case, and vice versa (ryuk intuitively is the devil but hes also a shinigami; god of DEATH), yet light plays a similar role because of the death note
I just thought That's a fucking ballsy move on behalf of the kira's Kingdom guy, especially considering they just showed school bullies being taken aback by the threat of the kid putting their names online. I don't know how much the public knows about how kira kills but he (and misa) have killed a guy on TV before so they know he can do that, and I guess he might be thinking he only kills criminals but I'm pretty sure people knew about him killing the officers at the sakura TV thing, so youd think he'd be a bit more cautious about claiming to have been chosen to speak for him, even if he does support him
I think he actually was chosen to speak for him, which is why he chose him as the 3rd party between him and the president. If he rubbed light the wrong way he would've killed him, he was wanting to kill Misa earlier in the show for "Making Kira look bad"
@@gratedradish6699 what we know about who he's killed/thought about killing is why it occured to me it's such a ballsy move, but yeah you have a good point. I haven't seen the show in a while so I might not be remembering or missing something if they said it
The power of L and Kira combined is crazy. All of Ls connections but with Kiras power you can basically control them all. Light essentially has control over any country, as we see with the US. He was once hunted by the FBI but now hes controling them 😂
I watched this show a lot of times since like 2012 but never really thought of it like that where if Light stopped he'd be the biggest pos ever. Even though he already is. Great analysis!
i really like the quote "If we catch Kira, he is evil. If he wins and rules the world, then he is justice." like it's such a simple line but it really puts into perspective how much history is written by the winners.
About USA anouncing to not fight Kira no more, he had to say it in a secure way, because well most powerfull person alive, and kira watching everything, he could be a target, so he had to watch his words while saying he doesnt like kira but also without making him mad
Which one is the devil and which one is the Death... Ryuk, the Shinigami, literally the God of DEATH and Light, the devil in person, killing all those people... (plus: N turned the devil around while saying KIRA makes the Shinigami lie) Kenny: Screw that, it's the wings!
Going into your discussion of justice at the beginning, it's important to mention that everyone has a different ideas as to what justice is. Like, let's look at Superman, Batman, and Rorschach from Watchmen. All three characters had vastly different ideas of Justice. Superman is the most good of them. The most he'll do, if needed is knock out criminals, but not do any more than that, and bring them to prison with as little damage done as possible. Long lasting damage can be permanent live changers. Batman will ruin your life, breaking legs, shattering bones, scaring criminals to the point they won't do crime ever again. Your life could basically be altered forever if Batman is looking for you. Rorschach, however, will brutally murder criminals. If they've hurt innocents, he's ending their lives, because, to him, the world is black and white. "Evil must be punished. Even in the face of Armageddon I shall not compromise." Because justice and corruption is the whole theme of the story of Death Note, yeah, it's a very important episode.
My head cannon plot twist: Near: I have a question? Kira task force: What is it? Near: Why is L’s finger still on the talk button? Light: Oops my bad. I forgot. (My head cannon is that Light is trying to help catch Kira while Kira is trying to stop anyone from catching Kira. Light is possessed by Kira and is tryin to help take down Kira before Kira completely takes over Light.)
It's also interesting because from what I remember, in the mange Near offered to write Mello's name because he knew Light had it and was kind of a test, because Light knew he couldn't really accept that offer (kind of a bluff from Near's part). If I'm wrong, manga readers, feel free to correct me. ☘︎
Is Demigawa going to New York under the control of Kira? He says he has no idea why he is doing it. While also saying he is doing it for Sakura Tv ratings.
If Death Note was Five Nights at Freddy’s who is the one Light should not have killed? Is Light like Willam Afton? Video Game idea: Six(?) years of Death Notes. It is like Five Nights at Freddy’s but instead of Willam Afton and the Animatronics trying to get u it is Kira and the Kira Supporters.
There's already unfortunately a good amount of vocal people in real life who support Light and believe he's the true protagonist, not L, Near, etc. The ironic thing is. Those people with such extreme beliefs in Light's ideology are the ones that I could see him having no problem killing too at one point if the circumstances were real.
He is the protagonist no matter your personal feelings about him, I think the word you were looking for was hero, protagonist is just the main character, and an antagonist is just the person opposing the protagonist
I think a huge reason Near was able to come up with the correct conclusion is because his deduction skills are equal to L so he put himself in L's shoes to do that.
Fun fact: hopefully somebody didnt already comment it but when L died, they cut the version we get to see in america because it was too dark. Light goes to L funereal and damn near have a whole convo with him its crazy lol u can find it on youtube i think.
I don't think that was in the japanese anime I think that is a scene from the two Death Note: Relight films which tell the same story just in a movie format and with some extra scenes, I could be wrong though
my thing is that both L and light felt so inhuman in there moves doing anything to get results. while near and melo are more human. like comparing people who are new to veterans.
I actually disagree, I don't think Near is smarter than Mellow. I think they (in this show) are literally equally intelligent, but their character is different, their motives. But they are equally intelligent. It is like Near said at the start, Mellow does things differently, but he still set up a trap with no way to stop it. He is the one who got the notebook first, after all. The interesting part is, 1 seem more "street like", meanwhile the other seem more "upper middle class", brute vs cold. Near would actually write Mellows name, Mellow would not (play the game/cold). Mellow would hold people hostages, near would not (play around the game/brute)
Mello would write it if he thinks he got snubbed by Near. That's just how he is. Emotions get the better of him. Which, funnily enough, would rob Mello of a more satisfactory outcome, which is proving he is better than Near.
hey couple! you guys r admirably smart 🫡 always pointing out key details and providing elaborations.. makes me keep watching. appreciate your brains my dudes! i mean gentleman, gentlewoman 😅
Personally, I DO think that killing those who want to harm the innocents IS inherently good. If you don't, you are actually HELPING those people to hurt innocents and THAT is evil. Basically, refusing to kill a serial killer is just USING the serial killer as YOUR WEAPON to murder other, innocent people. Basically, when Aizawa says, "That's not peace. That's living in fear.", my answer is, "That's the ONLY thing that peace IS. People have proven time and again, they will be evil unless forced not to be." That's why I am authoritarian. I know Montana is very against the death penalty, but all arguments against it seem short sighted, illogical and inconsistent to me. Unless you have one O have never heard.
Not every criminal wants to harm others and not every criminal does. Even light first kill wasn’t someone who killed someone just taken them hostage. Their needs to be nuance because life and crime is nuance. Authoritarianism can never be true peace and neither can all other forms of peace. You just do the best you can. True peace can be achieved in afterlife where harm isn’t possible. Also peace isn’t living in fear don’t know where you got that twisted definition. If you want to decrease crime to maximum you decrease the cause for it as much as possible and authoritarianism doesn’t do that because people still do crime out of fear and will still do it if that fear isn’t worse than they have it, or can lead to overthrowing the government itself. No matter what government you have decreasing the cause of crime and building a decent stable society will always be better than fully devoting to one governments idealism.
I have to say these terms your using ''unjustifiable,unacceptable,regardless of rates'' there only like that in a world that works by your decided morals which the real world doesn't work by anyone's except maybe the person in power at the time. I'm not saying Kira is right but what I am saying is that it's not fair to say he's wrong from the prospective of a person who's on a high horse and are saying I know what's right and wrong and that makes me a better person than you ''HAH HAH look at how great I am'' morality is obviously completely subjective and subject to change so there is no ''unjustifiable'' and nobody can judge right and wrong like an ultimate all knowing authority so the take that ''because of kira's actions the world's state is improving and despite how unfair or inaccurate his aim might be the world is still ultimately better and less unfair as a fact regardless of how hurt your morals are because of it'' that is a completely reasonable take and just as valid as yours. So don't look at people like they're dumber or lesser or wrong just because they don't share your thinking. Which you believe is objectively correct because there your being the same type of arrogant as light. Instead you should look at it as hey maybe your wrong and maybe they're right or maybe both of you are right or wrong but never look at it as an absolute. Basically the statement '' regardless of rates it's unjustifiable'' is completely incorrect unless you believe your moral judgment is definitive. which it never is because that wouldn't be subjective
You make a lot of definitive assumptions yourself and most of it came off as sophistry in which you contradict yourself multiple times. You say that morality is “obviously completely subjective” but then immediately go on to say that there is ''no unjustifiable'' which is an absolutist assertion and a complete nonsense one at that. A "subjective" stance would say that there are situations where the same actions performed but with different circumstances/motives become justifiable or not based on underlying principles, i.e. utilitarianism. It doesn’t flow logically to assert that all viewpoints are equally valid, but in the last sentence say that “regardless of rates it's unjustifiable is completely incorrect”. Also, having objective principles of morality does not directly infer that you believe yourself better than everyone else; I have no idea where you derived this notion from. On the contrary, it views all individuals as moral agents who can be held accountable for their decisions. There must at least be some communal foundation for a legal system, i.e. Judeo-Christian principles, otherwise you don’t have a functioning society, but one where political and social power grabs are the only legitimizing factors. The latter is how Light operates ideologically and it matches the same behavioral pattern of many dictators and tyrants in the past who I’m sure you probably condemn also.
@@Firefox1726 @@Firefox1726 I pretty much don't disagree with anything in the first paragraph all of it aligns with what I'm trying to convey even if it's not accurate word for word. And I don't think having an objective set of morals makes you feel greater than others but it's the way you act on your moral system. Do think of it as infallible and condemn everybody that steps outside of it's lines or can it be flexible depending on the situation and are you willing to reconsider or be willing and open to the idea of conceding that your actions or thinking don't need to necessarily be right or the other person's actions and thinking aren't necessarily wrong instead of I'm right your wrong I'm smarter than you. that's what I meant if it didn't come across clearly. And the common morals system that laws are based on. first of all I would disagree there I don't think laws are based on the common moral system. And the common moral system isn't necessarily more right than any other it's just more popular. And I'm not gonna defend light slander him as much as you want I was just considering a ''what if'' where a person was using the death note for genuinely improving the world like Matsuda. Their actions wouldn't be that different from light. They'd both be killing bad people
When someone says "innocent people who are thought to be guilty will be killed", I always think "how is that worse than the innocent people killed by those the government refused to execute?" Personally, I would rather be killed by the government than by a serial killer who gets off on torturing their victims as much as possible.
Because being killed when falsely accused can be worse. It’s all about personal preference. Would you rather be killed by someone crazy and know they are or be killed by someone who thinks it’s justified and that you are the monster. Personally I’d rather lose to a serial killer id be mad as hell my cause of death is false accusation. To me at least some justice can come from the killer eventually being caught or dying but there is no justice for false accusations because you can’t bring me back. But everyone would rather be killed by government than tortured, most killers don’t actually torture their victims.
I have some doubts. Like how could Near was able to heard Ryuk's voice. Only those who touch the Death note will able to see and heard a Shinigami. And from where he learned about the 13 day rule without ever having a Death Note.
I don't think he heard ryuk, he heard Light talking to him. As for the rule, he probably asked the task force for all the rules or something, after all he and mello both knew about the deathnote itself
Near heard Light talking to Ryuk, it's a little mistake from Light. About Near, the Rules and the notebook itself, the anime adaptation made an elypsis
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I came up with alphabetical logic of death note and character names 😂
· L + D + R : Light find a note book of death meets Ryuk
· L -> K : Light after using the note book he starts seeing himself as Kira = Killer)
· K vs L : Soon After Kira gets encountered by a rival worthy "L"(World greatest Detective)
· K -> L : Kira/light plays a long game of chess to deceive that he is innocent and kill the Hero " L" and takes he's name as a trophy
· L meets M + N : Kira/2nd L meets an unpredictable encounter with Near and Mellow who are driven passion to avenge their mentor Hero L's death
So simply put The clashes are in sequence
K-> L-> M R, Soichiro Yagami making Eye deal with Ryuk.
L + R : Light meet Ryuk
R -> L : Ryuk ( Spoiler Alert ), Light
The thing I find interesting about Aizawa is that he isn't afraid to question whoever is calling the shots, be it L or Light. He strongly opposed L's methods of detaining Light and Misa even before Light's plan started to work, and now he can see that if the thirteen day rule is fake, Light just became a high-priority suspect again. Even though he doesn't want Light to be Kira, he puts his feelings aside and views the situation objectively.
Really have thoroughly enjoyed Aizawa's arc over the course of this anime
what is the purpose of your life?
I feel sad for his mom and the boy
Aizawa is a great side character because he grounds the series. He's just a regular detective, and it counter balances all of the "quirky" super genius characters.
@@MarkQubman's coming into an anime observation with a philosophy question like it isn't the weirdest thing in the world 😂
To be fair, Mello wants to BEAT Near, not kill him. He hates Near, but killing him would be the same as admitting defeat, which he's too proud to do.
Mello was about to pull the trigger before being stopped. Mello said himself, Near uses his head and stays calm, Mello is filled with passion. He went into the belly of the underworld and kidnapped 2 people to win, traumatizing an innocent girl and her mother and killing a police detective chasing him. Mello wasn't thinking about beating Near in that moment, he wanted him dead then calmed down.
@@mattgarrett2583Yeah sometimes Mello forgets his true goal, which is ultimately to beat Near, not kill him, COZ he gets too blinded by rage when he feels like he's being talked down upon or being used as a tool by Near.😂😂 So you're both right in a way.
@@happilyevernever4289 Which makes sense as to why Mello shares in Light's red color, but it's lighter. Mello is very much like Light/Kira. Also why Near shares L's blue color, but also lighter. The colors are pretty cool visual storytelling and the details are even deeper.
@@mattgarrett2583 this is what I like about near and mellow theyre both just complte oppisties yet exactly the same/ Mellow is all of L's boldness while near is all of L's tact without mellow near wouldve never found out Light was kira and with out near mellow wouldve never been able to stop light
Ryuk openly cackling at Light sympathizing with Kira, even though everyone can see and hear him now, including Matsuda tossing him apples. 😂
But everyone treats it like a quirky thing that the shinigami does. Prolly overlooks or dismisses it.
Light was SWEATING this episode
Near or L ?
Both.
"He's been saying 'I win' too many times"
Me: Yeah, no kidding🤦♀️
I’m glad you all are enjoying the 2nd part so far. I think it gets unnecessary hate.. I personally love Near and Mello.
Mello is my favorite character 😭
@@rayolaserr Near is mine. L is amazing of course, but the second part of the show is just as good as the first. If not better honestly, Light vs L was very restricting when it comes to big things happening.
@@greyngo Cool! I've never thought about which part I like more, but I agree that Near and Mello are a great addition :)
Yeah true!
Near is my personal fav!!❤
@@greyngo2nd part is not as good as the first but generally overhated still very good
My cynical side tells me that if in the real world Kira existed, many countries would not hesitate to bomb Kanto to end its life.
I think Light's line about the winner deciding justice is one of the most interesting lines in the show. There is some objectivity in justice in the sense that justice's purpose is to prevent behavior that is destructive towards society, but what a healthy society looks like is something mostly defined by simply what most people agree a healthy society looks like. There's lot of behavior our society sees as just, that another country may see as unjust, and vice versa. There's a cultural element to justice, and if Kira's culture becomes dominant, it becomes a legitimate philosophy of justice, and people who grow up in a Kira culture won't even see it as strange.
The biggest flaw however in Kira's idea of justice is the concentration of power and lack of due process, it's most similar to dictator governance. A dictatorship can be appealing because it is actually really efficient if you give power to someone wise and moral, but the problem is the good leader won't live forever, eventually you will get an abusive or unintelligent leader and they will wreak havoc without a balance of powers to stop them. And without a due process , even the good dictator will make mistakes that harm innocent people accidentally more often than a fair trial. Democracy and due process aren't perfect, but they are very stable over long periods of time and much better than the alternatives.
So Kira's justice isn't actually very strange, before the rise of democracy, dictatorship / kingdom governance was the dominant form of justice in human history. It's not surprising that people would be okay with such a system, but if they try the system for long enough the cracks will reveal.
Also the thing Light says about the winner deciding Justice, it’s the same line as the winner writing history, right? The winner skews it so that they can keep winning because the alternate choice is to be the loser and the winner KNOWS how little mercy is given to the loser and instead of aiding the loser, making the “losing” outcome less horrific, instead hurts the loser more, therefore abusing their power they have through winning AND in the process becoming the very horrifying thing the loser faces itself. The horror the loser faces that the winner is trying to desperately avoid isn’t coming from somewhere else, it is directly coming from the winner’s actions, something that a poor winner absolutely fails to see and rectify, and a good winner WILL see and give proper Justice, based in CARE, in lessening their hardship, towards the loser.
Also, I loved your paragraph about democracy 🙂
I think Light is the devil and Ryuk is death (tarot cards). The devil is Lucifer, which means Light-Bringer, and Ryuk is literally a God of Death.
I never once thought of the Light-Lucifer name comparison, but it makes total sense!
Very cool symbolism
I've never seen a react channel with timers for the intros and pause breaks, genius!
Something I wish was explored in the show more is the fact that people have started posting names on the Internet for Kira to write. People would *absolutely* abuse that kind of power and it's possible Light might've killed a lot of innocent people that way, so it would have been incredibly interesting to explore some of it.
Did Light actually took names posted by random people on the internet seriously?
The anime implied that was just something people believed it’d work, so another tool for Kira to scare them into behaving, but not something he actually did.
I don’t think he’d bother, his thing is to kill people that already committed a crime and he has access to the criminal database. I think he’s already aware that people would possibly wrongly accuse others of getting away with certain crimes on the internet to get him to kill them.
@@Victor-qx3vx I don't think he would bit corrupt people with power could influence what names are being broadcast as criminals which we know light follows. Besides that crime wouldn't actually stop. People would just frame someone else to take the fall.
Oh no, even worse.. If you ever used Quora, you'll know there's people posting questions that are ridiculous, but also claiming different crap.. "My kid is 13 and they did this.." then they post something like, "i'm a 15yr old girl, what if" and the next question is "i'm 42 and..." like.. if you were posting names on the internet trying to get people killed, Light would of for sure killed the person posting wanting a classmate killed.. No doubt. He goes from punishing criminals to punishing people who dont fulfill their potential.. The guy that stopped being a lawyer to persue music? Dead. The guy in his 40s working at mc donalds? dead. Homeless guys, people who took out a go fund me for a vacation, people posting tiktoks of their car collection for internet clout, dating guru's.. all of them are gone once Light and Mikami got the ball rolling
He mention it once as it was normal, but Light has always had direct access to the police database, he never paid much attention to Internet randoms. Surely he killed a couple of those that people asked for and that gained him popularity, but surely it was not intentional.
Actually it’s the opposite for the death vs devil comment. Near considers Kira to be someone worth less than a maggot so he would consider light to be the devil as they are someone truly evil, while Ryuk is someone who gives the ability to kill.
No, he considered the President to be less than a maggot for surrendering. But you're right, Ryuuk is Death, Light is for sure the Devil.
Yep same thought.
That just depends on your view of “the ultimate Evil”
Is the Devil(Satan) the ultimate evil, or is Death itself the ultimate evil.
Almost everyone fears death while only some people fear the devil.
The “Devil 😈” could also just be a random demon or trickster, influencing your actions(“the devil on your shoulder”)
That describes Ryuuk very well
Get ready for my man "DELETE", I mean Mikami😅
Mello being 'selfish' perfectly sets up the completion of his arc.
He was once hunted by the FBI but now hes controling them 😂
And now, we are reaching the point where it all begins to go south for Light. He has to figure something out quickly :D
14:51 i believe its a theme to make the meanings ambiguous and obscured. one could make a case for both light being death or light being the devil in this case, and vice versa (ryuk intuitively is the devil but hes also a shinigami; god of DEATH), yet light plays a similar role because of the death note
Aizawa is an absolute badass throughout the show.
The manga did a slightly better job of explaining how Near found out that Kira and L are the same people, but nevetheless great episode.
You guys should consider watching Psycho-Pass! It also deals with a futuristic world where there is no crime.
I just thought
That's a fucking ballsy move on behalf of the kira's Kingdom guy, especially considering they just showed school bullies being taken aback by the threat of the kid putting their names online. I don't know how much the public knows about how kira kills but he (and misa) have killed a guy on TV before so they know he can do that, and I guess he might be thinking he only kills criminals but I'm pretty sure people knew about him killing the officers at the sakura TV thing, so youd think he'd be a bit more cautious about claiming to have been chosen to speak for him, even if he does support him
I think he actually was chosen to speak for him, which is why he chose him as the 3rd party between him and the president. If he rubbed light the wrong way he would've killed him, he was wanting to kill Misa earlier in the show for "Making Kira look bad"
@@gratedradish6699 what we know about who he's killed/thought about killing is why it occured to me it's such a ballsy move, but yeah you have a good point. I haven't seen the show in a while so I might not be remembering or missing something if they said it
The power of L and Kira combined is crazy.
All of Ls connections but with Kiras power you can basically control them all.
Light essentially has control over any country, as we see with the US.
He was once hunted by the FBI but now hes controling them 😂
I love the two doggos dead asleep lol
God Montana is so smart, I love this reactions but the discussions after are just *Chef's Kiss*
That’s great keep going I wish for you to reach million followers
22:21 bro… Light was wayyy too arrogant he should’ve just kept his mouth shut
I watched this show a lot of times since like 2012 but never really thought of it like that where if Light stopped he'd be the biggest pos ever. Even though he already is. Great analysis!
i really like the quote "If we catch Kira, he is evil. If he wins and rules the world, then he is justice." like it's such a simple line but it really puts into perspective how much history is written by the winners.
About USA anouncing to not fight Kira no more, he had to say it in a secure way, because well most powerfull person alive, and kira watching everything, he could be a target, so he had to watch his words while saying he doesnt like kira but also without making him mad
Which one is the devil and which one is the Death...
Ryuk, the Shinigami, literally the God of DEATH and Light, the devil in person, killing all those people... (plus: N turned the devil around while saying KIRA makes the Shinigami lie)
Kenny: Screw that, it's the wings!
missed this one! great vid!
I hate seeing Light get cornered like this ! It’s too anxiety inducing and stressful 😣😓😵💫
The end is NEAR
The last thing they mentioned really reminded me of Griffith before the Eclipse
Going into your discussion of justice at the beginning, it's important to mention that everyone has a different ideas as to what justice is. Like, let's look at Superman, Batman, and Rorschach from Watchmen. All three characters had vastly different ideas of Justice.
Superman is the most good of them. The most he'll do, if needed is knock out criminals, but not do any more than that, and bring them to prison with as little damage done as possible. Long lasting damage can be permanent live changers. Batman will ruin your life, breaking legs, shattering bones, scaring criminals to the point they won't do crime ever again. Your life could basically be altered forever if Batman is looking for you. Rorschach, however, will brutally murder criminals. If they've hurt innocents, he's ending their lives, because, to him, the world is black and white. "Evil must be punished. Even in the face of Armageddon I shall not compromise."
Because justice and corruption is the whole theme of the story of Death Note, yeah, it's a very important episode.
You could say he Mellowed out this episode
It's been a while since we've seen Appa, I wanna see the big boi.
Melo is my favorite 😆😆😆
My head cannon plot twist:
Near: I have a question?
Kira task force: What is it?
Near: Why is L’s finger still on the talk button?
Light: Oops my bad. I forgot.
(My head cannon is that Light is trying to help catch Kira while Kira is trying to stop anyone from catching Kira. Light is possessed by Kira and is tryin to help take down Kira before Kira completely takes over Light.)
After you finish Death Note, are you guys going to watch(listen) to Death Note: The Musical, cause I highly recommend it..
Anyone else notice how how that U.S. Senator sounded like former U.S. President Bill Clinton??😂
OFF-TOPIC:
What's written on Montana's T-SHIRT?
Why are you looking there man?
@@SaidBKD95 I'm brazilian, the first word is Brasil (with S as we say in Portuguese). So I'm curious about the rest of the phrase
@@DeversonBasilio yeah sure of course
It's also interesting because from what I remember, in the mange Near offered to write Mello's name because he knew Light had it and was kind of a test, because Light knew he couldn't really accept that offer (kind of a bluff from Near's part). If I'm wrong, manga readers, feel free to correct me.
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Are you guys only going to react on animated shows or are open about live action mainstream series?
Is Demigawa going to New York under the control of Kira?
He says he has no idea why he is doing it. While also saying he is doing it for Sakura Tv ratings.
I like Near
Same I like both Near and Mello I also think that Misa is over hated by a lot of the fans
@arisghostrider1why lol
10:59 nice to know you’re a Harry Potter fan.
Near is Lying to Mello about there only being one copy of the picture of Mello?
I kinda forgot how good this show was until ep 30 was convinced it fell down right after L
If Death Note was Five Nights at Freddy’s who is the one Light should not have killed?
Is Light like Willam Afton?
Video Game idea: Six(?) years of Death Notes. It is like Five Nights at Freddy’s but instead of Willam Afton and the Animatronics trying to get u it is Kira and the Kira Supporters.
mello never said he wanted near dead
Near is he goat.
Instead of "Near closes in" instead try "Near draws near"
I will definitely be very active during code geass
I'm so excited for Code Gayass!!!
SAKUJO! SAKUJO! SAAAAKUUUJOOOO!
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There's already unfortunately a good amount of vocal people in real life who support Light and believe he's the true protagonist, not L, Near, etc.
The ironic thing is. Those people with such extreme beliefs in Light's ideology are the ones that I could see him having no problem killing too at one point if the circumstances were real.
He is the protagonist no matter your personal feelings about him, I think the word you were looking for was hero, protagonist is just the main character, and an antagonist is just the person opposing the protagonist
It's just anime????
Calm down
I think it's not wrong to root for the protagonist, because it's normal, but it's wrong in this case to think like the protagonist
Come on Code Geass
I think a huge reason Near was able to come up with the correct conclusion is because his deduction skills are equal to L so he put himself in L's shoes to do that.
10:23 Taco Bell
Fun fact: hopefully somebody didnt already comment it but when L died, they cut the version we get to see in america because it was too dark. Light goes to L funereal and damn near have a whole convo with him its crazy lol u can find it on youtube i think.
I don't think that was in the japanese anime I think that is a scene from the two Death Note: Relight films which tell the same story just in a movie format and with some extra scenes, I could be wrong though
thats not a deleted scene
my thing is that both L and light felt so inhuman in there moves doing anything to get results. while near and melo are more human. like comparing people who are new to veterans.
Let’s gooooooooo
Did appa die
I want your dogs
Day 14 of suggesting berserk
Near is better than L
Light going with the Trump playbook...Storm the Capital
SUS
I actually disagree, I don't think Near is smarter than Mellow. I think they (in this show) are literally equally intelligent, but their character is different, their motives. But they are equally intelligent. It is like Near said at the start, Mellow does things differently, but he still set up a trap with no way to stop it. He is the one who got the notebook first, after all. The interesting part is, 1 seem more "street like", meanwhile the other seem more "upper middle class", brute vs cold. Near would actually write Mellows name, Mellow would not (play the game/cold). Mellow would hold people hostages, near would not (play around the game/brute)
Mello would write it if he thinks he got snubbed by Near. That's just how he is. Emotions get the better of him. Which, funnily enough, would rob Mello of a more satisfactory outcome, which is proving he is better than Near.
code geass please,pleaseeee
hey couple! you guys r admirably smart 🫡 always pointing out key details and providing elaborations.. makes me keep watching. appreciate your brains my dudes! i mean gentleman, gentlewoman 😅
Personally, I DO think that killing those who want to harm the innocents IS inherently good. If you don't, you are actually HELPING those people to hurt innocents and THAT is evil. Basically, refusing to kill a serial killer is just USING the serial killer as YOUR WEAPON to murder other, innocent people.
Basically, when Aizawa says, "That's not peace. That's living in fear.", my answer is, "That's the ONLY thing that peace IS. People have proven time and again, they will be evil unless forced not to be." That's why I am authoritarian.
I know Montana is very against the death penalty, but all arguments against it seem short sighted, illogical and inconsistent to me. Unless you have one O have never heard.
Not every criminal wants to harm others and not every criminal does. Even light first kill wasn’t someone who killed someone just taken them hostage. Their needs to be nuance because life and crime is nuance. Authoritarianism can never be true peace and neither can all other forms of peace. You just do the best you can. True peace can be achieved in afterlife where harm isn’t possible. Also peace isn’t living in fear don’t know where you got that twisted definition. If you want to decrease crime to maximum you decrease the cause for it as much as possible and authoritarianism doesn’t do that because people still do crime out of fear and will still do it if that fear isn’t worse than they have it, or can lead to overthrowing the government itself. No matter what government you have decreasing the cause of crime and building a decent stable society will always be better than fully devoting to one governments idealism.
I have to say these terms your using ''unjustifiable,unacceptable,regardless of rates'' there only like that in a world that works by your decided morals which the real world doesn't work by anyone's except maybe the person in power at the time. I'm not saying Kira is right but what I am saying is that it's not fair to say he's wrong from the prospective of a person who's on a high horse and are saying I know what's right and wrong and that makes me a better person than you ''HAH HAH look at how great I am'' morality is obviously completely subjective and subject to change so there is no ''unjustifiable'' and nobody can judge right and wrong like an ultimate all knowing authority so the take that ''because of kira's actions the world's state is improving and despite how unfair or inaccurate his aim might be the world is still ultimately better and less unfair as a fact regardless of how hurt your morals are because of it'' that is a completely reasonable take and just as valid as yours. So don't look at people like they're dumber or lesser or wrong just because they don't share your thinking. Which you believe is objectively correct because there your being the same type of arrogant as light. Instead you should look at it as hey maybe your wrong and maybe they're right or maybe both of you are right or wrong but never look at it as an absolute. Basically the statement '' regardless of rates it's unjustifiable'' is completely incorrect unless you believe your moral judgment is definitive. which it never is because that wouldn't be subjective
You make a lot of definitive assumptions yourself and most of it came off as sophistry in which you contradict yourself multiple times. You say that morality is “obviously completely subjective” but then immediately go on to say that there is ''no unjustifiable'' which is an absolutist assertion and a complete nonsense one at that. A "subjective" stance would say that there are situations where the same actions performed but with different circumstances/motives become justifiable or not based on underlying principles, i.e. utilitarianism. It doesn’t flow logically to assert that all viewpoints are equally valid, but in the last sentence say that “regardless of rates it's unjustifiable is completely incorrect”.
Also, having objective principles of morality does not directly infer that you believe yourself better than everyone else; I have no idea where you derived this notion from. On the contrary, it views all individuals as moral agents who can be held accountable for their decisions. There must at least be some communal foundation for a legal system, i.e. Judeo-Christian principles, otherwise you don’t have a functioning society, but one where political and social power grabs are the only legitimizing factors. The latter is how Light operates ideologically and it matches the same behavioral pattern of many dictators and tyrants in the past who I’m sure you probably condemn also.
@@Firefox1726 @@Firefox1726 I pretty much don't disagree with anything in the first paragraph all of it aligns with what I'm trying to convey even if it's not accurate word for word. And I don't think having an objective set of morals makes you feel greater than others but it's the way you act on your moral system. Do think of it as infallible and condemn everybody that steps outside of it's lines or can it be flexible depending on the situation and are you willing to reconsider or be willing and open to the idea of conceding that your actions or thinking don't need to necessarily be right or the other person's actions and thinking aren't necessarily wrong instead of I'm right your wrong I'm smarter than you. that's what I meant if it didn't come across clearly. And the common morals system that laws are based on. first of all I would disagree there I don't think laws are based on the common moral system. And the common moral system isn't necessarily more right than any other it's just more popular. And I'm not gonna defend light slander him as much as you want I was just considering a ''what if'' where a person was using the death note for genuinely improving the world like Matsuda. Their actions wouldn't be that different from light. They'd both be killing bad people
When someone says "innocent people who are thought to be guilty will be killed", I always think "how is that worse than the innocent people killed by those the government refused to execute?"
Personally, I would rather be killed by the government than by a serial killer who gets off on torturing their victims as much as possible.
Because being killed when falsely accused can be worse. It’s all about personal preference. Would you rather be killed by someone crazy and know they are or be killed by someone who thinks it’s justified and that you are the monster. Personally I’d rather lose to a serial killer id be mad as hell my cause of death is false accusation. To me at least some justice can come from the killer eventually being caught or dying but there is no justice for false accusations because you can’t bring me back. But everyone would rather be killed by government than tortured, most killers don’t actually torture their victims.
I don’t have any hate towards any one in anime but near is my MOST hated anime character
Someone hasn't read the manga. Is it because of the tapes? It makes sense in the manga.
Don't talk over the show...
I have some doubts. Like how could Near was able to heard Ryuk's voice. Only those who touch the Death note will able to see and heard a Shinigami. And from where he learned about the 13 day rule without ever having a Death Note.
I don't think he heard ryuk, he heard Light talking to him. As for the rule, he probably asked the task force for all the rules or something, after all he and mello both knew about the deathnote itself
Near heard Light talking to Ryuk, it's a little mistake from Light.
About Near, the Rules and the notebook itself, the anime adaptation made an elypsis
Near could of learned the rules from Mello.