$0.01 Flexible Plastic ARM Processor by PragmatIC
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2017
- Enabling Trillions of ARM processors to be made cheaply to be embedded everywhere as envisioned by ARM owner Masayoshi Son ( • Masayoshi Son Keynote ... ), PlasticARM is an implementation of an ARM Cortex-M0 based 32-bit microprocessor SoC in plastic. Using PragmatIC’s technology, the flexible integrated circuit (FlexIC) is implemented in thin film metal oxides on a polymer substrate, with a total thickness of less than 10um. The latest version uses a 1um cell library, delivering a 10x improvement in footprint over the last 2 years, and significantly advancing the state-of-the-art in printed logic. PlasticARM demonstrates the potential for PragmatIC’s ultra-thin and ultra-low-cost plastic electronics to extend from smart packaging into areas such as wearables and security. You can read more about PragmatIC at pragmaticprinting.com You can watch the Keynote presentation by PragmatIC at IDTechEx here: • PragmatIC Keynote: Ena... This video was filmed at the IDTechEx.com Show!
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i would hate having this dude put a camera 2mm from my face and cut me off while im trying to explain my product.
irritating voice as well
exactly what i tought, seems like a very egocentric and arrogant person :/
I like the camera movements, it makes the video more dynamic.
i like your positivity 😆 *+mcdoublemaster2*
yeah this guy SUCKS
can't wait for my rug to understand its environment ...
It massages your feet when you walk over it by using a large pressure sensor
@@INeedAttentionEXE It also cleans itself by using it's threads to push garbage under the couch.
@@nelsoncabrera6464 Can imagine instead of skeletons coming out of your closet they come out from underneath your sentient rug
Eric Hung damn, that’s almost as stale as my joke
Best way to introduce somebody: "So who are you?"
thats a good question, might seem rude but asking who he is in this kind of atmosphere it a very respectful thing because the questioner is wanting to know who they are
@@Hash-Slinging-Slasher just say "would you introduce yourself" or something like that
@@user-bj3pq2si2l thats a normal conversation, usually things like this are more professional and quick
Lol
Coming to you soon: “Oh no! I ripped my processor in half!”
@@lonewretch bs
anthro ponym it’s a joke, shut it..
flex tape it back together.
What about plastic pcb yellowing and destroying itself just by virtue of time?
@@MisterHunterWolf THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE
This would come in handy for prosthetic bionic limbs, hands, & feet. It would make it a lot easier to place flexible motherboards to lay within the layers of the structure itself.
animated wallpaper here we come.
It's called "the wall" I believe
That already exists on Windows 10 Pro lol (but thats not worth the premium ;))
@@Zenheizer He's meaning physical wallpaper, not computer background
@@danholli123 oh nvm 😅
@@Zenheizer It happens, BTW, did you mean the slide show background or something else?
I'm still waiting for the day I can print out a new computer
can you imagine the cost of the ink though?
You literally can, right now, with an ordinary inkjet printer.
www.wired.co.uk/article/inkjet-print-an-electronic-circuit
@@menotu000 The ink is really expensive, but not bad compared to normal printer ink - it's about $30 a gram.
You literally can, right now, with an ordinary inkjet printer.
www.wired.co.uk/article/inkjet-print-an-electronic-circuit
@@menotu000 The ink is really expensive, but not bad compared to normal printer ink - it's about $30 a gram.
@@nathangamble125 There's a difference between printing an electronic circuit and printing a full proccessor i.e. what Jason ^^ was referring to. Did you really think he was really waiting for the day he can print out a blink LED circuit?
@@spacedesigner849 i mean you could do that with the right inks and layering
I love the way this guy's interviews humanizes CEOs
Cue Styx music mr roboto and listen close
he is like who the fuck are you but yes I see what you mean
@mPky1 Its literally just a job description, what is "completely without humanity" about that?
I was hoping that there was some zoom set on the camera, since he was otherwise getting very close to their faces. Amusing in itself.
@mPky1 subjective but true to many
I was going to help a friend out to fix his ECU in his French car.
It was not a new car by any means.
The ECU was made by Siemens or Bosch.
The box looked really robust, aluminum, clam shell type.
I opened it up and every component was soldered to this, folded plastic PCB.
It looked like a 1990's calculator inside.
I closed the box again and told him I simply lack the tools to fix it.
I think it's cool that the IC's take the leap into platics. But I hope they do it in such away that DIY'ers don't need to buy expensive tools.
who even thought that was a great idea?!
@@ETXAlienRobot201 When you look at a product and wonder why something nonsensical is the way it is, the answer is always "marketing".
oh, i'm fully aware...
it's painful since no one around me really is
it's one reason why i'm trying to avoid becoming one of their under-valued worker bees
CPU is free, you pay for licence :)
dzhiurgis for the first Billion, the license should be free..
After "the first billion", I guess they go to RISC-V. :- )
AMD still pays a fee to Intel for the x86 platform.
@Game Over Maybe because X64 is supposedly by AMD, not that I care...
@Game Over they reached an angreement where AMD licence x86 while intel licence x64 without paying any royalties also RISC-V is the future
It has the specifics of arm but with an open standards so companies nutoriously push this intructionset
Thank you. Welldone gentelmen. It is really amazing to discover people like you still exist. You made me happy in several ways.
Thanks so much for your videos. You're a great interviewer! I'm surprised with each question.
Th is is the most exciting thing in ICs I've seen since the 1970s when yields began scaling up and processing power began to enter the truly useful range for mankind. What they did for $10s of dollars, this company is doing for pennies. There is a whole new frontier here and they are at the horizon of total victory.
Thank you for bringing us this interview. If you get the chance in the future, please continue to interview this team, and this company.
I think you meant 10s of thousands, but point still stands.
@@radomiami No, actually. CPUs are very cheap to manufacture thanks to economy of scale, and this has been true for decades.
The AMD 9080 (a clone of Intel's 8080, and AMD's first CPU) only cost 50 cents to make in 1974.
Most CPUs today are actually more expensive than they used to be to manufacture - usually tens of dollars - but they still charge hundreds (or thousands, for server CPUs) of dollars for them. It's worth it for consumers, but the CPU industry has very good profit margins. The reason we don't see more companies competing is because they need compatibility with common software in order for their CPUs to be worth anything.
This is exciting? We already use PCB's in electronics (plastic)
Wonder what kind of wattage and thermal limits this has the potential for and how many mips you can expect
I don't imagine the thermal limits would be to high considering melting points
Probably 10-100mV
“I dunno if I asked too much but,”
Dude, I like the style the way you interview.
Very cool!
NSA and China will particularly love this.
Haha this video is from 2017 but youtube has just started to recommend it. Good stuff as always charbax. Love your dedication
Much more enjoyable interview. I can not wait to see where this technology goes.
Just amazing, I see tons of potential.
A book with different logic device on each page that actually works astonishing indeed . 👌
My jacket will be packed with ARM CPUs that will keep me warm by farming bit coin.
Imagine having multiple layers of these
Soooo sometime in the future my polyester t-shirt is actually my gaming PC that is powered by the static electricity created by friction.
You need to stop moving the camera and get it out of their face my man.
This is incredibly impressive. For the first few moments I was thinking this was just a concept. Very cool.
Well done , waiting to see it soon available around us.
random youtube recommendations as its finest.. but two years late.. smh.. nice video btw.. would love a follow up..
wow , such a great channel , thank you .
This company is going places , very interesting Indeed.
This is ARM, if you have an android phone you are using one of their chips.
And even if you don't have an Android phone, you are using their designs. (remember, Arm does not manufacture anything)
REGALPALADIN they did go somewhere, they pretty much own the RISC chip scene now
@@firstdayversion1015 It's not plastic and fully biodegradable
Only a couple of minutes in, and I'm wondering how it stacks up against a 8008, 8088, and 386.
Dang 2 years late but still a cool topic not only that imagine, true flexible phones ultra light weigth peripherals and devices normally more smaller than usual, this stuff is sick
Instead of making it smaller with slight improvements, keep the size, make it more powerful.
First gen cell phones had bigger processors than desktop PCs.
If we had batteries to keep up with our density of power for the size, the only limitation I see, it would be amazing.
But if it's done, parallel research will make up for the deficit.
Great interview
I can't wait until I get in my hand the iglass
@charbax: great going. I can see that you thoroughly enjoy your work. Can be seen from your videos over the years
Yes thanks for watching. This stuff is awesome!
Interesting but substantially fact-free. Now, late 2019: where are they, boys?
might have realised it's hard to implement these as they said
they seem too easy to damage even by a slight mistake to me..... which would suck in the real world
Heat from CPU will melting the plastic, so not sure how to make it durable, but for capitalist view this is great for "planning obsolescence"
@@fadrium1464 I can see these arm processors possibly being used in cheap calculators or low powered microcontrollers.
@@fadrium1464 Heat is fair concern and one of the questions not answered in the original video - along with clock speed. But I've done plenty of MCU designs where power is only a few milliwatts. You can still get a lot done with that.
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I agree with the ARM guy, this probably can't ever beat silicon in performance or possibly even performance per dollar, but silicon won't ever be as cheap or thin as this.
i dont understand why they did circles if this tech is produced by printing or something like that?
Game changing tech
very good applications can be built. on some food package, or glasses etc.
far out, that's amazing.
Great video. Brave video work too :D
I'm wondering about heat dissipation. Like if you were to attempt to scale this up to say... Risc-V with a certain number of cores running Linux, would you begin to run into problems with keeping it cooled? Or does the thinness allow heat to dissipate more easily? In terms of manufacture, with its more robust process, is this something you could then manufacture anywhere?
This is crazy! Really appreciate your videos btw. Sounds weird but, when you stroke the golden contacts can you feel the bumps of the IC design?
Yes it feels kind of like some thick ink on paper except it's some metallic ink on plastic.
The info in this was great, but the camera work just made me uncomfortable.
We need public consensus involved with large-scale processors. Decentralisation is paramount.
just wondering... doesn't processors gets hot when running... processing... things?
Great potentials.
These arm socs could be easily stacked together. And these are literally paper thin. Imagine stacking these socs up to the thickness of a phones battery? Probably be a good 60 layers. That would equal an immensely powerful smartphone.
Just one step towards having these chips implanted in our brain :)
please express about lag energy and heat exchange process of these phenomenon. i am proud of my future hardware its a another level of versatile. good luck
I can imagine mutli stacked processors, sensors, output devices, all less than 1 mm thick.
Revolution!
Analogue device can be used inside of their power converter chips inside 😍
They look like star trek's iso linear chips.
just one of many star trek tech that actually became real
Sounds great but how sturdy is it? How long will this work if put into clothes for example? Plastic connectors like this in laptops can break within a year with no movement at all and those processors look even thinner than those...
Where are they? I want this! 10:32 is really on point - the individual discrete logic chips thing is fun but nowadays we need a UC and some firmware to drive it, general purpose computing on plastic is where the fun is!
ARM Processadores do FUTURO!!!!!!!!......FUTURE !!!!!!!!.......OK!!!!!!!!......
I wouldn't want my product to be considered "just a piece of plastic"
I am thinking when they can use Graphene insted of plastic .
It's gonna be a long long time.
2030 for sure! Not just graphene but carbon nanotubes and photonics!
When graphene chip can be made for 1 cent and not 1k
i imagine they are easily cooled if cranked up in performance. Just emerge them in water.
Immerse
@White Rice Well, they aren't all Rocket Surgeons.
Does the plastics will shrink if the prosessor heating up?
So, you created a CPU for the best Yoga mat ever! Awesome :)
Nice, if they can integrate a oled display or e-paper on that thing, we could see that stuff all around us.
How's the thermals? How does you cool it down?
What will happen if
In the middle operation ,as we know processor are heating..
Plastic can resist that heat or not?
10 layer of plymer realy amazing.
Just imagine flexible phones clothing anything!! And umbrella with weather prediction
They are actual scientists
@@JamecBond They have invented something
when i socket this in my computer will its temperature rise up to destroy the plastic
It will be popularized by advertisers. Moving adds in newspapers/magazines
I wonder if it melts when you actual run it under load.
so basically this is just like making 2 way mirror material like space blankets, I love how he danced all around saying they use vacuum vapor deposition, and then acids to etch since the plastic is impervious to the majority of those acids, while say the aluminum coating on those thermal or "space" survival blankets is exposed on one side,
So I'm curious, how would heat be managed on such a plastic chipset?
I would stack 100 of them!
The greeting card business would buy that now, if you could show it working?
But can it run games without melting?
Also how would you connect this to a motherboard?
ARM CPU's aren't for gaming.
@@AsttoScott you can play pubgm on phones with ARM CPUs
@@AsttoScott As long as computer games require CPU calculations, any CPU can be used for gaming.
magic in plastic
How does it possible? It's amazing !
Mind = blown
3:23 with the humans that are using them, did he just let slip that he's an alien?
I want some!
My phone gets too hot when i do some high processing stuff, how will plastic withstand that heat?
maybe they use special substrate around
It passed almost 2 years. Where are they?
This the real Wear-able tech.
How will they solder this plastic on PCB?
Thin and light !!!
If it heat up ?
How much is the performance can we get atleast intel Pentium 1 single core performance in anytime soon from these...bcz then we could just buy it for chrapest gaming built
mola, es interesante la propuesta de esa manera se pueden bajar los costos de los smartphones!!
What's the speed
Any heat issue?
mino dino it will melt the plastic lol
chip never heats itself ...the whole component heats altogether....if they provide it with a good cooling technology ...the estimated heat produced in 0.1 microsecond will be transferred immidiately and whould be completely safe.....everything depends on heat discharge rate
Arm processors use very little electricity and I doubt they'll have a high atdp but if they do have a heat problem in the future they could just use Liquid to transfer the heat away like a non conductive mineral oil
that's arm 1, from 22years ago so probably not much heat is produced
@Richard Farrey there goes your flexibility!!! :)
interviewed by a leprechaun
Could we see it working?
We could have thousands of these running in parallel (if they design them to support multiple processors) for a cheap price.
@Murphy deffa someone also said you don't need more than 640k...
@Murphy deffa well it depens heavily how you programm the task you want to process
@Murphy deffa yea right... super computers only use 32 cores, right?
GPUs also have 32 cores? They have thousands. Investigate about "CUDA" (Nvidia) and "Stream Processors" (AMD).
As Leicht Sinn says, it all depends on how you program. Also depends on the task you want to do.
Granted, for most users even 32 cores are to many.
GPUs have 32-64 cores. Stream processors are execution units, not cores.
Super computers and server halls do not generally accelerate one task, because that’s hard; but that’s what end users tend to care about. You’re not interested in running an ensemble of games, you want to run a single instance of the game faster. You don’t generally want to do more each frame (e.g. simulating the NPCs you don’t see) you want to make each frame faster. It’s a different use case.
Also, Bill Gates/Microsoft never said 640k was enough for everybody. The 640k limit came from IBM hardware combined with the need for adresses that map to other things than physical memory.
@@soylentgreenb Yes, they have "few Compute Units". As I understand it, those compute units will send instructions to multiple small processors running in parallel. Nvidia calls those smalls processors "CUDA cores". One could argue they are cores inside a core. Scientists use GPUs as "low end cheap super computers" to execute simulations and other stuff, normal users for gaming and mining bitcoins. But ultimately they are processors running in parallel, and that is what we want.
Games tend to use "few cores" most won't use more than 4, 4~8 cores in the newest ones, even though some are programmed to take advantage of more cores. I am sure we will soon have games that will require easily 8+ as a minimum.
Applications that benefit from more and more cores are for work (graphic, science, engeneering, video editing, movie making, etc). Servers for virtualization.
It seems you are thinking only about games. Outside of games and simple office use, the higher the core/processor count the better.
However, I was wondering what is the life span for the processors in the video. Don't think a processor printed on a plastic will last long for a heavy task. Maybe they can improve (and I bet they will, if they haven't already) their technology to print on other substrates that will compete with or be better than a silicon wafer.
Does Scott White ever blink? He looks like a crazy man, but in reality he's extremely bright and surrounds himself with the brightest in the industry. He's totally focused on his objectives.
Reminds of me 2004 Jeff bezos look
So that's what the $5 raspberry pi's are made of
Would it burn if it overheated
How much processing power does this actually have? Can it run a simple operating system?
It's probably still a prototype, so that would be unknown unless there's estimates/expected result
They mentioned an equivalent of a Cortex M8 and I remembered it used in gaming mouses. It's just good enough as a co-processor.
@William Baric it's a processor.
its based off of a cortex-m0 which is.... drumroll.... 2.33MHz. you could maybe run dos on it and do some assembly code?
it's still super insane that you can actually create a CPU just by shaping up plastic though.
How do I plug it? How it work with heat...