Will human civilization destroy itself? | Daniel Schmachtenberger and Lex Fridman

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  • @mitchelltj1
    @mitchelltj1 3 роки тому +21

    Daniel's collection of knowledge and ease of explaining such complex ideas is very humbling to me.

    • @MJDAS2001
      @MJDAS2001 3 роки тому

      💯

    • @coney2010grads
      @coney2010grads 3 роки тому

      I know right. I was surprised that this guy is an actor. I thought he was a professor of history or anthropology or something

  • @ericjeller
    @ericjeller 3 роки тому +36

    this guy has consistently come back at lex's crazy questions with extremely rational thought, i like it

    • @howardb5812
      @howardb5812 Рік тому +1

      Yep. So perhaps those questions aren't as crazy as we think.

  • @MJDAS2001
    @MJDAS2001 3 роки тому +49

    I could listen to this dude talk forever. I don't know that I've ever heard another human talk about anything as intelligently as him before. What a cool cat. Imagine if people like this were in charge of things and ran the world?

    • @nekrokulter
      @nekrokulter 2 роки тому +3

      Usually good and honest people like this don't have the ambition to lie themselves through politics, or they fall on ears deafened by ideological fears. I mean if you think about that the first data suggesting climate change was already found in the 70s (!) It just shows how greed, manipulations and ignorance often is louder than factual unbiased truths.

    • @steffenpanning2776
      @steffenpanning2776 Рік тому +1

      @@nekrokulter not in the 70s. You are over a century too late. UA-cam doesn't like external links. Search for "1856 Eunice Foote"

    • @ClarkPotter
      @ClarkPotter Рік тому

      Agreed

    • @florentin4061
      @florentin4061 Рік тому

      He as human is still corruptible of being exposed to power. Don’t underestimate the power of power on even the most intelligent loving seeming people.

  • @bushfingers
    @bushfingers 3 роки тому +37

    I was feeling depressed earlier today. Now I feel quite vindicated

    • @weedeeohguy
      @weedeeohguy 3 роки тому +1

      Don’t be. Humans are fundamentally selfish, self centred and prone to violence. Left to our own devices we are self destructive. Not to understand that is to be in complete denial. History proves this. Jesus Christ is the key to renewal individually, societally and globally. History proves this.

  • @benjpmc
    @benjpmc 3 роки тому +15

    I've always thought of it this way... Peace requires the potential to destroy all by everyone AND choosing not to. There is little difference between a villager choosing not to burn their peoples crops and a human choosing not to wipe out humanity, only scale.

  • @lylemacdonald6672
    @lylemacdonald6672 3 роки тому +9

    A very intellectually stimulating conversation.

  • @julianfort4259
    @julianfort4259 3 роки тому +3

    Lex your optimism frightens me.

    • @JustinLHopkins
      @JustinLHopkins Рік тому

      Why? Virtually all metrics show that the world is improving. Democracy and human rights have never been more widespread, the human development index is rising, IQ’s are steadily increasing, the world is 20% greener than it was in 1980, infant mortality is the lowest in history, violent crime has plummeted from peak levels during the late 20th century, abject poverty and hunger have declined and warfare has continued to decrease since the end of the Second World War.
      We’re not on the brink, we’re not on some precipice of doom. I urge you to pick up a history book if you think things are so bad because I can assure you that the world is immeasurably improved from the days of brutal monarchs and emperors, religious fanaticism and burning innocents at the stake, slavery, lynching and all the other atrocities that plague human history.
      Emperor Nero would dump hot tar on Christians and set them on fire to provide lighting at night. What equals this atrocity in the modern world? Nothing. Be thankful that you live now and try some optimism for change.

    • @mathieuraetz2041
      @mathieuraetz2041 7 місяців тому

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@JustinLHopkinshow naive….That’s the common anthropocentrical view….you confound many things…and didn’t understand Daniel’s view, I’m afraid.
      Your comparisons smell ecological amnesia so much….

    • @JustinLHopkins
      @JustinLHopkins 6 місяців тому

      @@mathieuraetz2041 I don’t understand your poor grammar and you need to work on that.
      However, like I said, democracy and human rights have never been more widespread, abject poverty and hunger have decreased, infant mortality has decreased, violent crime peaked in the early 90’s and has decreased drastically, we’ve eradicated deadly viruses from the wild, the world is actually greener than it was in the 80,s, more villages in Africa have access to clean water than ever before, human conflict has decreased, and more. The list goes on.
      You’re a fear mongering apocalyptic dolt, with no clue as to the actual state of the world. Would you rather live in the 1500’s when religious fanatics held Europe hostage, or what about Nero who dumped tar on Christian’s and set them on fire to light his parties? Yet you think the world is worse lol. You have no understanding of history. Human morality has improved over the centuries and there is no doubting that.

  • @HomelessHomeowner617
    @HomelessHomeowner617 2 роки тому +4

    "I go out in the real world to eat my coconut ice cream and im all about love" haha awesome! Real Housewives of MIT

  • @SpringyPhoenix
    @SpringyPhoenix 3 роки тому +19

    I appreciate the “post Brettonwoods” anthroposcene breakdown. Lex, your question abt inverse correlation is on point.

  • @christinedcruz7648
    @christinedcruz7648 3 роки тому +4

    this conversation absolutely tops all the others, Lex, so grateful to have the opportunity to be enlightened

  • @DC-wg1cr
    @DC-wg1cr 3 роки тому +1

    18:12 Lex underscores for a sustainable future for society the importance of human/humane development over scientific/technological development.

  • @0ld_Scratch
    @0ld_Scratch 2 роки тому +3

    I'm not looking for a good ending but a nice ride along the way, sooner or later all the lights must go out, so I try to enjoy the time I have

  • @reesekrynauw4556
    @reesekrynauw4556 3 роки тому +1

    The worst of the worst and most prolific murderers in history; Lenin was a very intelligent man. He played the piano and was a masterful (sadly!) orator. Trotsky wrote poetry in French and could speak seven languages, so I don't think that there is a linear relationship between competence & proclivity for evil/destruction, since they were competent beyond belief, but warped, twisted & bent beyond compare.
    Thank you for your content. It's very enlightening.

  • @DC-wg1cr
    @DC-wg1cr 3 роки тому +3

    He kinda just brushes over the IMF and the Worldbank, as if they are peace-oriented institutions. How does he not get that economic institutions and systems are they greatest weapons today. "There are no countries anymore, only corporations!" -Mr. Number 2

  • @godjupiter5755
    @godjupiter5755 3 роки тому +1

    And this is the negative of EVERYONE surviving birth. There are a lot of people alive today who just shouldn't be. And I say this, including myself as one of the people who shouldn't be alive

  • @BootlegLizard
    @BootlegLizard 3 роки тому +1

    Why is the colour off?

  • @psyfiles7351
    @psyfiles7351 Рік тому

    I agree it’s not a given that love wins this game. It may hinge on which way we decide, each of us, within our hearts

  • @n2cable
    @n2cable 3 роки тому +3

    we will do it inadvertantly. Not being able to reverse it cause thats our human psychology that we can "Fix" it. We are great at expanding, and fixing and manipulating but that will be our undoing. Basically humanities ego will be our doom

    • @lachlanwise5345
      @lachlanwise5345 Рік тому

      Haha your probably right. I don’t know if they think they can fix their mistakes as far as the catastrophic effects that arise from using our technology over the years. From burning the worlds true old growth forests to literally make ash for potassium to splitting the atom.
      After the first nuclear explosion and destroying or burning the first few square kms of forests and seeing the aftermath. We would have known for sure that we can’t undo the damage created, I don’t believe they care at all.
      The only reason why we would have gone on to destroy the all of the rest of the old growth forests and go onto explode 10s of thousands more nuclear weapons all over the world.
      They don’t plan on fixing jack s#%t. Absolutely no insight or vision.
      I can’t believe how completely unaware most people are about our complete lack of insight, ability and intelligence. We would be screwed if a cataclysmic event occurred. And it’s inevitable.
      But I believe it’s likely going to be one of our designs that gets us first.

  • @NoGoodHandlesComingToMind
    @NoGoodHandlesComingToMind 3 роки тому +2

    Dude was so ready to hand off the monologue there at the end.

  • @ecruzd3rd
    @ecruzd3rd 3 роки тому +3

    Lex is very optimistic, let's hope he's right

  • @arindaman
    @arindaman 3 роки тому +2

    I like the tender coconut flavor. It's really refreshing.

  • @DC-wg1cr
    @DC-wg1cr 3 роки тому +1

    24:22 any attempts to order a part of the system leads to even more disorder

  • @gerrylavelle8433
    @gerrylavelle8433 3 роки тому +7

    Either human nature or mother nature -- one way or the other.

  • @IronDogger
    @IronDogger Рік тому

    I’m curious what their thoughts on Jacque Frescoe and the Venus Project as a viable alternative for humanity to innovate towards for survivability and sustainability.

  • @louisburke8927
    @louisburke8927 Рік тому +1

    I think the question is who isn't a psychopath

  • @zaider666
    @zaider666 3 роки тому +1

    Understanding ourselves, including our capacity to build, love, harm, and destroy. Understanding our mind and integrating our shadow in each individual human being maybe our salvation. Also add to that some sort of mechanism to deal with psychopathology. Jung was way ahead of his time.

  • @dchung726
    @dchung726 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome clip!!!!!

  • @Mr-li3wo
    @Mr-li3wo 3 роки тому +1

    I enjoy Daniel's eloquence and ability to articulate these higher order ideas, with 'fuck's sprinkled in. 😄

  • @alohadave13
    @alohadave13 3 роки тому +1

    Coconut ice cream is my favorite...By the way [BTW], this is an amazing interview and I've watched several segments of it...

  • @dermotmeuchner2416
    @dermotmeuchner2416 9 місяців тому

    Overshoot is the problem. We’re beyond peak oil and we have 8 billion people heading to 9. Too much consumption, too many people.

  • @dr.doppeldecker3832
    @dr.doppeldecker3832 3 роки тому +2

    I love coconut ice cream, but only the smooth one and not the one with little coconut pieces:)

  • @Ner0tika
    @Ner0tika 3 роки тому +1

    COCONUT ICECREAM?! REALLY LEX?!?!?!? REALLY!?!?!?!

  • @lucvergnes
    @lucvergnes 3 роки тому +3

    Coconut is also my favorite flavor, don't worry lex you're not alone!

    • @kenbohlin1642
      @kenbohlin1642 3 роки тому +1

      You guys are freaks! That is a crime against texture. In some countries you could be jailed.

  • @charlesworthington5466
    @charlesworthington5466 3 роки тому

    i come from a planet that had no evil in it so i have hope for this world and faith

  • @arturasstatkus8613
    @arturasstatkus8613 2 роки тому

    Thank,You Sir.

  • @Greginlaseries
    @Greginlaseries Рік тому

    Coconut ice cream is tremendous.

  • @charlesworthington5466
    @charlesworthington5466 3 роки тому

    love will never lose ever

  • @markoconnell804
    @markoconnell804 3 роки тому

    The human civilization will not destroy itself.

  • @larzhillbot1443
    @larzhillbot1443 3 роки тому +3

    No way out of the mess, we have hit our limit long ago

  • @goldenphoenixpublish
    @goldenphoenixpublish 2 роки тому

    Perhaps, the only source of confidence that we have for the future (as a Class One "Experiential" Global Planetary Civilization) is that there are those among us who have seen it all before. (ie. Class Four "Boddhisattvics")...

  • @bloodyfingers8633
    @bloodyfingers8633 3 роки тому +1

    Asteroid collision is most likely going to do it. (Unless we leave)That's a statistical fact.

  • @shanjafri1785
    @shanjafri1785 3 роки тому

    Lex, you should have Yanis Varoufakis on to discuss his bretton woods 2.0 system.

  • @Rockysbeats
    @Rockysbeats 3 роки тому

    great stuff lex ;) keep it up

  • @josephclark5414
    @josephclark5414 3 роки тому

    Yes

  • @jareddiehl3679
    @jareddiehl3679 3 роки тому +1

    Welp, we're currently in the fourth turning so...

  • @f0xx32
    @f0xx32 3 роки тому +6

    kinda looks like hes glowing

    • @muninnsmith7958
      @muninnsmith7958 3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for pointing it out.

    • @f0xx32
      @f0xx32 3 роки тому

      @@muninnsmith7958 youre welcome

    • @williamtaylor5193
      @williamtaylor5193 3 роки тому

      The pre-interview, facial makeup session is now a full body-spray, yet people still believe we're not evolving as a species.

  • @weedeeohguy
    @weedeeohguy 3 роки тому

    Like these shorter bits.

  • @AnselLindner
    @AnselLindner 3 роки тому

    He's struggling with complex markets, but will turn around and prescribe centralization and central planning.

  • @klaplante540
    @klaplante540 3 роки тому

    Didn't know Ron Swanson had a son.

  • @PattiMoreno212
    @PattiMoreno212 3 роки тому +1

    So basically SkyNet…

  • @Customwinder1
    @Customwinder1 3 роки тому +1

    Unfortunately the answer is ..... Most probably.

  • @SongWhisperer
    @SongWhisperer 3 роки тому +1

    We are destroying it as we speak.

  • @aussierules3436
    @aussierules3436 3 роки тому

    Climate change people climate change

  • @josephclark5414
    @josephclark5414 3 роки тому

    I usually agree with Lex but I have to say something... coconut is gross.

  • @claudebaron9525
    @claudebaron9525 3 роки тому

    Seen how it is now, and knowing the future only look worst, I think it’s evident.

    • @JustinLHopkins
      @JustinLHopkins Рік тому

      You think it’s bad now? Travel back to the inquisition and the crusades and then tell me how bad the 21st century is. We used to enslave and lynch black peoples, burn people at the stake for heresy, religious fanaticism was rampant in Europe for centuries, and life in general was extremely difficult, violent and short. Stop complaining.

  • @libbylepage2323
    @libbylepage2323 Рік тому

    0:13 my favourite icecream is green tea and white chocolate 😂 no one else seems to like that flavour either 😂

  • @__-tz6xx
    @__-tz6xx 3 роки тому

    I can see PINGTR1P editing this to make Lex seem psycho.

  • @Majnun74
    @Majnun74 3 роки тому

    SCHMACH!!🙌🏻

  • @Skyesalley
    @Skyesalley 3 роки тому

    Love, coconut ice cream and destruction

  • @DC-wg1cr
    @DC-wg1cr 3 роки тому

    Why don't they just say "butterfly effect"?

  • @RGSGaming616
    @RGSGaming616 3 роки тому

    One of his favorite games is diablo? Dude. Lex get on D2R!!

  • @hayneshuntingcom
    @hayneshuntingcom Рік тому

    coconut pie is better Lexicon!

  • @charlesworthington5466
    @charlesworthington5466 3 роки тому

    thats were we went wrong instead of being mony hungry we should have went with nikola tesla free energy for the hole world instead of oil and the other

  • @shonarobinson1045
    @shonarobinson1045 3 роки тому

    Terrence McKenna vibes from this dude.

  • @noramuldowney2721
    @noramuldowney2721 3 роки тому

    Greed sex and social media has destroyed conversations and human niceties....oh well

    • @JustinLHopkins
      @JustinLHopkins Рік тому

      Yes, because humans used to be so much nicer when they were enslaving and lynching black people, burning people at the stake, waging religious wars and inquisitions that killed millions, slaughtering entire native cultures, wiping African tribes off the map during colonialism, and I could go on indefinitely.
      Greed and sex aren’t new. And people haven’t always been nice. Stop romanticizing the past.

  • @charlesworthington5466
    @charlesworthington5466 3 роки тому

    there is a cure for all this it is love wisdom peace and happiness ritousness

  • @kinifa666
    @kinifa666 3 роки тому +1

    Guy is damn genius 👏🙌

  • @DC-wg1cr
    @DC-wg1cr 3 роки тому

    Uh who tf thinks love is winning?

  • @charlesworthington5466
    @charlesworthington5466 3 роки тому

    i vote for Schmachtenberger for president of the united states

  • @DC-wg1cr
    @DC-wg1cr 3 роки тому

    He doesn't understand that our ruking classes hsually already understand the next several order effects, and therefore invest in making them come about. An example would be the investments in arctic drilling and shipping, made possible by climate change - but yeah we're builders!

  • @algorn5477
    @algorn5477 3 роки тому

    All I can see and hear is X-Men Beast.

  • @iiafterimageii5610
    @iiafterimageii5610 3 роки тому +1

    He reminds me of Terrance McKenna and Vince Vaughn combined

  • @Dr.Monday
    @Dr.Monday Рік тому

    If I were a pillow, and you were a bowl of soup... Would you let the birds in? Or let the TV take care of it... I swear I’m not crazy. I love meats.

  • @peterjohn9785
    @peterjohn9785 3 роки тому

    Do u know about pistachio ice cream?

  • @roarblast7332
    @roarblast7332 3 роки тому

    It’s easier because there is no evidence people will understand each other lex. Or even care. What world are you living in? It’s certainly not the world I’m living in.

  • @aussierules3436
    @aussierules3436 3 роки тому

    We are already past tipping point…..enjoy

  • @roarblast7332
    @roarblast7332 3 роки тому +1

    What is the argument that love is winning? That’s a strange perspective. Does this look like a world where love is winning? Dictators, despots. A world that fundamentally operates under the assumption that control is more important than truth. That looks like love is winning to you?

  • @Vita-ty5lk
    @Vita-ty5lk Рік тому

    Capitalism is the problem. Interview Ted Grant please?

  • @KurtBob
    @KurtBob Рік тому

    Dude prolly has issues fitting that last name on many forms.

  • @libbylepage2323
    @libbylepage2323 Рік тому

    1:24 oh god this guys voice is boring

  • @superbombracing
    @superbombracing 3 роки тому

    I love coconut everything Lex. I got you. What about Pineapple on pizza??

  • @jordigironowskitp7739
    @jordigironowskitp7739 3 роки тому +3

    well, mass vaccination is here ;)

  • @spence2126
    @spence2126 3 роки тому +1

    Ooo 1st, er..... Yea we will

  • @charlesworthington5466
    @charlesworthington5466 3 роки тому

    You have to be a completly ignorant been to distroy eachother and the living planet Gia

  • @mattd6200
    @mattd6200 Рік тому

    Why you RUMBLE your VOICE?! ANNOY!

  • @gprivat812_my_selection6
    @gprivat812_my_selection6 3 роки тому

    👎❗

  • @Zayden.
    @Zayden. 3 роки тому +1

    Private ownership of the means of production and class society have outlived their usefulness. We need to expropriate the capitalists and establish a planned economy under democratic workers' control.

  • @bobrowland7851
    @bobrowland7851 2 роки тому

    Lex is far from stupid, well-informed and a nice guy but not so bright as his lineage and credentials would seem to suggest. He strikes me as being the product of good role models, enthusiastic encouragement, and hard work more so than natural talent.

    • @nekrokulter
      @nekrokulter 2 роки тому

      I think he's probably just really specialised in his field and structures his world through a very specific and strict framework, which makes it sometimes challenging to integrate new information that challenges this framework. Still, if that is true, it's amazing that he stays open to so many different world views. Not many people can do that.

  • @thebigfella9095
    @thebigfella9095 3 роки тому

    yes..its dead..it died march last year....we have zero hope..its gone

    • @danielbooth5035
      @danielbooth5035 3 роки тому +2

      Exactly zero yeah? Brilliant input pal.

    • @thebigfella9095
      @thebigfella9095 3 роки тому

      @@danielbooth5035 truths you know but just dont want to admit..hence we have zero chance..

    • @danielbooth5035
      @danielbooth5035 3 роки тому +2

      @@thebigfella9095 exactly zero yes? Zero chance? You believe its exactly a zero chance?

    • @stefc7122
      @stefc7122 3 роки тому

      Can you be more specific?
      If we were to do it all over again, taking COVID and it’s backstory out of the equation, what did you envision happening in the future that gave you hope?