Wally Jay on Small Circle Finger Locking
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2010
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So sorry to hear this great master of the arts is gone. His memory and legacy of small circle jiujitsu will live on.
I trained at Wally Jay’s house, in Alameda, in the early 90s, and let me confess: finger locks are real. When Wally Jay has you in a finger lock, you’re helpless.
I suspect I am not the only one laughing at how calm he is explaining this while the poor chaps are writhing in pain on the floor! Excellent explanation. Clear and concise demonstration. Those "test dummies" are champs.
I note the UKE already has damaged, plastered, fingers.... I wonder how that happened!
agonising pain!
I was a humble student of Wally Jay. He did these instructions to and in front of the entire class, including yours truly.
It’s been almost 50 years since I attended Island Alameda Judo & Jujitsu.
It was one of the highlights and privileges of my life.
Been on the receiving end of these techniques in jujitsu class.. Believe me ; these guys aren't exaggerating the pain involved ..
I had the good fortune to attend a seminar of Professor Wally Jay back in 1992 at a JKD studio in southern oregon. Learned so much in a short amount of time. Thank you so much for this knowledge Grandmaster. Respect J Fennell
Bowling and I train together many times. He was a good friend. I miss him every day.
Wally Jay was magnificent at this. Truly impressive.
This technique dropped a guy to his knees that punched me at a bar once. His hand was open, so grabbed a mitt full of his fingers and bent them straight down towards the floor, "is this the hand you like to punch people with?" It was an attitude changer for sure. Apologies ensued.
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Wally's small circle jujitsu is deadly stuff. I couldn't escape Wally's finger locks. Respect.
Rest in Peace Professor. Thank you for sharing this video.
Much respect for this humble man. I attended many of his seminars back in the 80s, & he lived in the spirit of the martial arts; humility, patience & a sense of humour. I still have sore fingers but remember those times with a smile.
Which tend to come up more than you think...I had the pleasure of training under the professor years ago for awhile, these techniques were generally more a transition than an end in and of themselves. A finger lock can be used as an incredibly effective means to shift quickly into a more secure lock like a wrist lock or arm bar. You'll find uses for it in almost every fight, particularly against an untrained opponent.
Studied with both Gracie and Jay. Two totally different styles. Please stop the dumb comments. Learn about the guy don't just watch a video. Small circle is now incorporated into so many styles. Now I know why real martial artist don't read the idiotic comments on youtube.
At age 15, an unassuming, tall Wally Jay was our island city mail man. At age 43, my Sifu was one of several on the island. All his adolescent students filled our schools, never misbehaving or taking advantage of their learning. He was nearly 90 when he passed away, as lean as he was in his 40s as beloved as an Hawaiian ocean breeze. Our police forces lack these techniques and the confidence in deflating a hostile engagement these can bring. Professor Jay's influence is world-wide and a never-ending ripple.
It is majestic how in all pure Japanese martial arts when the teacher shows you a technique it hurts like hell, incapacitating you, rendering your other muscles useless, when he finishes the technique, we bow to him in respect...
Rest in Peace Professor Wally Jay.
Every police officer should master these techniques .. Would avoid a lot of "unnecessary roughness/force" or even fatal shooting of suspects ...
Doesn't work when the criminal is too far away which is when police usually shoot, justified or not. However it could be useful in hand to hand combat as Japanese police do study joint locks.
Small joint manipulation is illegal in the UFC. Just because you don't see it used, it doesn't mean it doesn't work. Proclaim your ignorance of Martial Arts. That's why there is Martial in Martial Arts - it's War, not a sport.
OSS (y) (y) (Y) OSSSSSSS ...
I have seen quite a bit of Japanese jiu-jitsu, and Chinese chin-na, both demonstrated and as the Uke and they hurt like hell. I have only met a few scjj practitioners and the little innovations of mechanics were enough to induce noticeably more pain compliance. Very interesting art.
This stuff is illegal in UFC,BJJ, NAGA for good reasons.
1) Many chances present to secure a grab on a finger or toe.
2) The bones and ligaments are small. They break and tear easily.
3) Finger & toe breaks/tears are excruciatingly painful far above proportion to the relative damage inflicted on the body as a whole.
4) This kind of mutilation ends careers and handicaps people for life.
5) It's not sporting (outside of Japan). It's malicious and best used to stop violence & save lives.
Osu!
yes what does one do when facing your closed fisted opponents,? use a totally different fighting style until you get an open palm or spare finger? is this fighting style limited in applicability because of that or is there a workaround..i'm curious
Command Root Its not that hard if you practice it.
Wally Jay was presenting the information for effective self defense. It was never meant to be a sport as traditional Budo was intended.
Padraic O'Gawain It wasn't illegal in UFC in the early ones. The smallest joint lock used for a win I remember was a wrist lock.
Wally J....R.I.P., he was great!
"pain is the best teacher"
Damn he's good, so smooth in the transitions between locks.
thanks I am glad that I am just watching lol a lot of pain so fast and with out a lot of energy this is the friends I want to have thanks for this video master.
first time i ever felt sorry for students. would ve love to see him and uncle gene go at it
Rest in peace and mahalo, Professor, for all you have given us.
An amazing demonstration
Now, in small circle jujitsu or even jujitsu itself, there are transitions. You can go from a standard wrist lock to a reverse wrist to a finger lock back to a wrist lock to thumb compression. You obv dont have to transition so much to control your opponent so really 1-2 transitions at most. Now if you put the idea of transitions, you can basically defend urself from anything such as someone grabbing your shirt getting ready to punch you. Thumb compression is great here and this hurts a ton
I learned similar stuff from catch wrestling , but I always tell people that finger locks save lives . Some kid tried to bully me in HS by grabbing my book bag strap , so I grabbed(2on1) his wrist and his pinky and front kicked his shin when I twisted . . . Without good training , any random could try beat you'll.
he was a GREAT!
Brilliant!!!!!!
I try not to really comment on UA-cam; however as I check out clips occasionally it's truly amazing how there are so many closed minded ignorant people in this world. Furthermore these ignorant people don't even know they are ignorant. I'm sure a large percentage is due to age. “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein
Bravo!!!
Grand Master Wally Jay is my hero!
*nod* most of these arts, Small Circle Jujitsu or Krav Maga for example have no use in tournaments. They were made specifically with 1 single goal in mind, effectiveness against life-threatening or severe situations. They were designed specifically as war arts with the intention of causing severe damage or death in the attackers. There's a major distinction between that and wanting to win a tournament. I love UFC, don't get me wrong, but it's not a reasonable model of a real street situation
I took this when I was 10 years old great art...!!!
That's that Hawaii accent right there! =) mahalo, Sensei!
RIP Professor.
That was hysterical - when tapping meant do it harder!
Bad idea putting your mitts on this fella!
Wally Jay+ Bruce Lee and James Lee = bad ass combination!!!
ive had the pleasure (ouch) to train with wally hes a great guy R.I.P WALLY
oh the joy of happy fingers
I trained with Leon Jay for a while, and finger locks are so effective and painful. No wonder small joint attacks are illegal in the UFC and other combat sports as it would be a quick tap or just very difficult to grapple or strike with a broken finger.
@xvidzzz You just keep applying pressure on the joints until it breaks.....Double-jointed or not.
dangerous techniques, I feel sorry for the students with dislodged joints. Seems a little practice would be sufficient to get the concept and feeling.
RIP Professor 🙏
Anyone who thinks they could handle one of these holds simply hasn't dealt with a reasonable practitioner before. I had the pleasure of training under this guy a number of times in seminars and such and I remember the feeling that you could manage but the second he put a lock on you, you were his, flat out...the big judokas present would try to resist and he'd just add a little torque and they'd be controlled like a dog on a leash, brutally efficient and painful art.
I always feel sorry for the student lol
Thank you I finally get it Peace
I will definetely begin doin finger push ups, now i understand why Bruce Lee put so much emphasis in that
The effectiveness of the techniques is not in the art or style, it all boils down to the person using the technique.
Seriously?
You're still spouting this nonsense?
If there's one thing that MMA has taught the world, it's that "the art or style" absolutely matters.
"the art or style" defines the training methodologies and in terms of efficacy, those arts or styles that employ live resistance training will consistently outperform those that don't.
My own JJJ throws and groundwork were basically useless until I functionalised them by training live with Judo and Sambo practitioners.
Same with striking. Kata and Bunkai training is useless when faced with a boxer or muay thai fighter.
@sbuhlig Yes he did,from a stroke,his family took him off life support yesterday.He will be missed.
This reminds me of Hapkido
Then you've never had any experience dealing with someone who knows it, these locks are taught as means to an end, a transition point between a lapel grab or a push into something more concrete like an armbar or wrist lock. I'd also wonder what judo tournaments you're attending that allow small joint manipulation, that sort of technique is barred even in most "no holds barred" tournaments, I've been both attending and a part of dozens of judo tournaments and never seen one allow them once.
But how do you get them to first open their fists? Almost all fights people make fists the entire time or at least while they are swinging at you. They also quickly close their hands up when you try to grab their fingers. Is there another video by this teacher showing how to do all that?
later we kan not see the details you hold the others hand, please film 🎥 again, zoom in when you hold the hand. I love the teknik 💖
You're right, but that statement applies to any technique. In the real world you're just as likely to get grabbed, shoved or something as you are to get struck. The time for anything is when the opportunity is there. Never put all your eggs in one basket.
I have done this wake up drunks that fell asleep in my taxi that are out cold. Cause pain they react.
I experienced Wally's demo in a private meeting when he was on holiday in my country. My peer and I were MMA in
This technique is useful for when a bully points his finger at you.
I want to see a video using this to counter a punch like he says.
3:34 hahahaha! It looks like he's wearing a seaweed hat.
Small circle Jiu jitsu is a JIU jitsu style that specializes in finger locks or is it a specialized part of Jiujitsu? In other words,is it a style in particular or a part within another style?
The small circle part refers to the area of study involving making a small circular motion with the hand while applying the locks. It describes the lever and fulcrum motion when viewed from the side. The fulcrum and lever fingers love in opposite directions, hence making a circular motion and becoming a force multiplier on the joint.
@elainesman Lawsuits over dental bills.
He should keep that one dude up on his toes for the whole vid for having a mullet!
So does anyone know where they offer "Pinkie-Ryu" classes?
I love how the white guy at the 4 and half minute area makes pain noises as if he's a Chinese guy in a kung fu movie instead of just natural yelps. "Ah tsai! Shee tsah!" What a dork!
@jeffery Ransom you're absolutely right, it's straight disrespectful Wally Jay is respected in the Martial Arts World, they do the same thing when viewing Dr. Moses Powell's videos smdh but I bet none of them would step to any disciples of these two Masters
Correct my fellow Warrior Osu!
Who else hates how the mat sounds when their feet drag across it?
Man that Red Belt is bigger than the WWF belt that John Cena has
@shengchenfan At the time of the posting. He was not dead. I have been vey close to him and his family for many years. He had a stroke on Tuesday and just passed early this morning. Thanks anyways.
Nick Diaz! 209
Jesus was a Martial Artist. He was a carpenter and would understand the basix of jujitsu. Fulcrum, base, lever, wedge.
It's important to remember this is not sport. This is life and death. Not sport. The Chinese call.this chin na.
Le petit dragon l'a eu comme professeur , et il lui a appris le small circle . Le petit dragon a eu nombres de professeurs !!!
Wally Jay and Bruce Lee we're friends
check the mullet at 3min 40sec lol
So we’re is the lesson
Can someone tell my how to hold the finger
@Bammx2 Couldn't of put it better myself friend.
Wally Jay was respected in the martial arts world because in those times there were no possibility to be really exposed.
Nowadays it would be laughed.
Are you saying he was a fraud and that the techiques are pretend?
how do you trap the fingers in the first instance ?
from grabs and punch counter locks
Great fer women or kids against would be rapist or Predators.
Yer fightin fer yer life,, can make the diff in being safe or being a Stat.
You probably been choked out like Steven Seagal!
yeah but that looks hard to get in the 1st place. grabbing fingers in a real fight?? i dunno. unless the opponent grabs you or something maybe, but i dont think i'd go for it. doesn't seem practical.
make fun of one of the most respected teachers in martial arts. he passed away genious
I've never experiment with this but it sure seems to me that all you have to do is raise your elbow right out of the hold in a quick motion. Is am I right? I don't know I guess I'm going to have to get a partner to see. Has anyone else had experience with this.
+Johnny Striple Depends on how good you are with your technique. Wally was a master. He could trap your fingers in an instant and have you begging for mercy. I got to meet him once and he demonstrated it on me. He was already a very old man when I met him, and I was in my prime and relatively strong and well coordinated. I tried to get out of it, but it was simply not possible until he let me go.
@xvidzzz You break his hand as you transition to another method.
yes he can throw people -I've seen him do it. He's pretty good. BUT this I don't see working unless it's under a very very specific circumstance.
People don't just stand there and let you bend your fingers, with out kicking, punching, scratching and moving your center base.
My Sensi is wicked with this shit. you really dont believe it works until your on your knees begging
@tbnice1966 Dude....he is not dead.
what kind of martial arts is this?
Small circle jiujitsu
Japnese jits old school
"i don't have to look at him". That was just cruel.
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I wonder if it would work well with a person in a wheelchair?
wtf is wrong with you?
Says Who ?
I feel bad for the student
Show me a video of a finger lock working in real life. At full speed ... in a real fight...
Show me a video...
Just 1 video....
??????