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Years ago I was working on an organ in the back room of a music store. I kept hearing reverb every time I made a sound yet no reverb was on the organ. I finally realized that an upright piano right behind the organ had its action removed. This left all the strings un-damped. They were resonating from the organ sound. Thing is there was a string for every note in the organ all tuned perfectly to each note. It was an amazing effect.
A Spring Reverb Speaker like this was actually used to create the Transporter sound in the Original Star Trek back in the late 60's. I have a book around here somewhere that discusses all the backstage production stuff of the series. Has all kinds of cool little tid bits in it. Like how the Tribble's "Purr" is actually just a Cricket pitch shifted down and slowed.
Cool as it got back then. This looks 60's though I am on States side of the pond. It is important to note the springs are driven in the center by a direct physical connection to the speaker. Hence the springs sound couples back to the speaker and is heard. I have never seen anything like it. Caution! That speaker is rated for no more than 20 watts, and that kind of bass will damage it. It's brittle paper and phenolic held together with crisp glue. It's no ordinary speaker.
When I was a kid, my friends dad was cleaning out stuff from their grandfathers attic and he pulled out something like the one in the video and said we could play with it. Well kids being kids we essentially destroyed it, throwing it around and kick it in listening to the pained cries of the springs. Lot of fun but boy do I feel like a shithead destroying such an interesting piece of audio history. Glad some made it :D
I had a 100W Crate 2x12 combo amp I bought brand New In 2008 or thereabouts and it had a spring reverb with actual springs so at least then those were still used. It was not an expensive amp either, just a cheap transistor one.
6:40 sounded amazing. Anything that goes into the deeper sounds just gets the springs to jump around crazy making their own noises that distracts from the original sound. But this is amazing for higher to mid ranged frequencies.
@@KCML82 I kind of like that effect , but I get what you mean, Id also take away that central bar that sort of holds the springs and replace them with individual strengthening rods for each spring , that way any vibrations are not sent along the central support beam and then passed into the adjacent coils causing feedback. But I guess its all a part of the unique sound that box makes. You could easily experiment with different coils .
I love that you can actually see the waveforms as the springs go into resonance....you can see the nodes and anti-nodes..... higher the frequency the more waves are visible.... good visual acoustics !
YOu'd be amazed at what some older speakers can take. I had a set of 1960's era "home theater" speakers with a 12" sub, 6" mid and 1 or 2" tweeter in each upright box and those things were LOUD. They took decades of use and then some abuse from me as a teenager using it to play my electric guitar through the system... And playing my metal. It took me cranking everything to the max to pop one of the old paper and glue sub woofers (though it was more a failure of materials).... Great fun, actually kind of made it hard to breath and got me a call to the police from neighbors a mile away!
@@SilvaDreams I have a pair i of vintage technics, they get real loud while continuing to sound amazing but i would not dare to test them THAT hard lol
yeah, make the springs glow red hot + arcs when they touch + ultraviolet light for the flys + ram some styrofoam in there while filming that madness HAHAH
Should build some "new" versions of this. Give more room between the springs and have them further from the back board so they wont hit the backboard and each other as easily.
@@txspeck so did I. I got a Hughes and kettner amp, in 2011 with proper spring reverb. It wasn't even an expensive one (£250). Before you say, yes, I'm sure it was analogue; digital doesn't make spring noises when unplugged and knocked.
@@NVMDSTEvil yeah it was a combo, I've always just called them amps haha. Anyway, my point was that I'm confused that it's so cool to you all when it's a fairly common thing.
So, it's seems like it's the reverb speaker from a Dax-Éko RA40. It seems to be stereo speakers with two elements, one with and one without springs, presumably so you could add reverb to your music!?
This reverb actually sounds pretty decent. The different spring thickness is to smooth out the reverb even more. (not support at all) 4 springs will also do that. A good thing to to do would be to mount a piezo pickup at one end to just isolate the reverb out. Even better thing would be a piezo pickup at each end on the support brackets. Then you would get a lovely stereo spring reverb effect without the dry signal. The Mic is going to pickup the dry signal which is not really wanted. It sounds quite long though. You could also wedge some light foam in between the springs to speed up the reverb time as well. I have done this before.
I like how you think! I'm an old boy now, but back in 1965 I played in a garage band for two years. Back then it really was a garage band because parents would only let us play that loud in a garage. At least until you're good enough to be let into the basement. Anyway, I was the lead guitarist and had, I think it was a 100watt amp, nothin' special. But it did have tremello and reverb. And the reverb was springs mounted on a block of wood. I know, because back then I would take things apart to understand. We would rock the amp back and forth to get the reverb block to crash and do its thing... Really enjoyed this video!!!
Although the springs slapping the wood housing added an interesting effect you could build a new housing designed to avoid that interaction. It might be fun to add an electromechanical tremolo.
adding another fun fact: in physics class when in high school, our teacher once demonstrated the effect of resonance frequencies by using almost the same loudspeaker with springs enclosure coupled to a tone generator... well, exactly what you did towards the end of your video demo!
ive seen antique speakers with strings like in a piano . Very scifi soundtrack.Variable spring tension would interesting, controlled by midi using servos.
That is actually a very, very cool sound! It reminds me of some special effects sounds I've hears from old movies in the 1960s. And apparently a huge amount of unaccountable fun from such a simple device lol! Enjoy your vids!
A mate had an old organ with one in, the springs are usually arranged to resonate at different frequencies. The organ also a speaker with two revolving horns over it to make the sound go round the room, I replaced the speaker on that. There were several other physical tricks in there, as opposed to electronic. I have a stereo spring line delay, about 3 ft long, its awesom, no use for it now though. 4 xlr plugs on it, active whereas your unit is a passive reverb, its got an attenuation controll on each channel too. If you just want a lot of reverb, the output of one channel can be fed into the other. I think it was used in the theatre or a professional orchestra.
Looks like it could be out of an old organ. One of the foot pedals would control a padded (felt) lever that would touch the springs and stop or start the reverb effect. ...or possibly an early guitar amp. But the age/look of the 6x9 speaker on there definitely leans closer to like... an old Hammond organ.
I haven't seen one of these things specifically before, but when I was a kid, my local science store (which still exists, American Science and Surplus) had something vaguely similar looking in one of their unsorted bins. It was a largish rectangular box with an RCA jack on both ends, and a jillion tightly stretched thin bare wires running back and forth, which I THINK were insulated on each end so that it was effectively one very long wire (no speaker though). The guy who I asked about it guessed it was used to create a delay, but I was like "there would have to be thousands of miles of wire to get a noticeable delay, right?" He grunted and told me to buzz off (the people who worked there then, unlike now, were super-cranky). I'm wondering if it was actually a different kind of reverb, with the wires interacting with each other magnetically and vibrating when you ran a signal through it. Wish I had bought it 40 years ago, it would be interesting to make one and see if it works. Edit: A little 40 year delayed googling (wish THAT existed in the 1970s, it would have made trash picking weird electronics a lot easier) has turned up a lot of devices similar to what I remember, called "reverb tanks". Most of them had springs inside where I recall the wires as straight, but otherwise, same thing with no speaker required, just a jack on the ends and weird insulating thingies on each end.
My brother had a Pontiac convertible he was attempting to restore which had a reverb tank mounted in the trunk. He never did finish restoring it, his 1st wife made him sell it.
So kewl. I have an old spring and tuned strings reverb box homemade from a cigar box and fitted with a (now inoperable) digital mic from a headset that I used to use sometimes when I used to play my banjo over Yahoo voice chat. This vid makes me want to go the other way 'round and make it a speaker, just for the heck of it. Great vid!
I had a couple of Sansui reverb amplifiers that used springs like these. They were early 1970's vintage, and were adjustable, via tension, and dampening. Your speaker is likely the same vintage, or perhaps late 1960's. The trouble with mechanical reverb, is that it is indiscriminate about what signals are reverberated. Solid state devices proved to be more reliable. That's a cool find.👍👍
Would tuning individual springs, and being able to de-tension or damp them help? Of course it would not be as versatile as a digital reverb, but people who like these old things don't care about that.
I used to have a crate guitar amp with a spring reverb in it. The kids in my guitar class used to knock it over all the time and the reverb would almost blow out the speakers.
This has the coolest yet eeriest sound I have ever heard and I love it! This would be such a great asset for sound design in a video game. Actually... ...Can I borrow that for a sec? Hah
I was surprised at how much like a real reverb this sounds, rather than a spring. Are the springs at a different tensions? At looks like the top one (as you have it laid down) moves far less than the others. Maybe emulating early reflections.
It has different wire gauges. The loose ones for the first part of the effect, the thight ones are for the decaying effect. I think these are reused piano wire.
Me before the video: It's just a speaker with some springs, can't be that good, but curious enough to watch. Me after the video: I want one, could be really good for certain genres of music.
If you got a speaker all you need is springs ;) you could even build a frame for the springs that attach over the speaker, making them a removable option :D
When it hit that perfect resonant frequency to make it shake, it made me think how cool it would be if you actually could build a Tesla Oscillator (the earthquake machine).
If I'm not mistaken, all we have to do is find out the frequency of a certain object, and then match that frequency with a soundwave and put it next to it, in order to make it move.
Basicly a speaker is Nikola Tesla his earthquake machine. It is the same mechanism. Thats why resonating sound freqeuncies amplify the sound. And for bass this can be perfect. But bass can also destroy houses cos of resonating frequencies. Like a bridge in the wind once broke. Wind is actually like sound. Just a wave in the atmosphere. But Nikola Tesla also had a secret. So we cannot create the actual device that he was using. We can only create the mechanism that did the up and down movement.
Tesla has specific patents pertaining to the "Tesla Oscillator" and I'm fairly sure you can just outright buy a model based on his patents but yes it's very similar to a speaker just able to span a broad spectrum to cause the sympathetic vibration, just like when an opera singer breaks a wine glass. But these are the things he could explain/talk about in his video, if he were to get into this subject. I just think it would be a fun project.
@@nomadautodidact Yes you can. He had different types with steam and without etc. It's very interesting. But those devices om itself can sadly not explain an earthquake machine. Nikola Tesla had the keys. Those keys he never gave.
Omg so cool! So fascinating..high to low sounded funky, then sounded like a train leaving a subway station in eastern Europe. Where everything is tile floor to ceiling.
amazing i'm very glad that you review it personally i have a pair of headset with it's own sound card that have the ability to play in 7.1 surround sound AND i was amazed to hear that actually sound like it is true surround sound when i disable the program
I've got one of those tube reverby thingies you mentioned with the dangly spring. Cool! Of all the places I bought it from the gift shop at Avebury stone circle, probably adding to the perceived weirdness!
i'm assuming the digital age of music has made people completely forget what non-digital (like guitar) instruments use and do. this is standard guitar amp fare.
Spring reverb is common in guitar and bass amps. One of my 100W Amps has spring reverb and when I'm using it can kick the amp to make thunder noises as effects, the spring is part of the wiring somehow and the reverb effect happens electronically rather than acoustically. You are overdriving the spring unit so they bang together which is how I get the thunder sound with mine.
Came across your channel by accident and now I'm subbing, this is the most incredible thing I've seen in ages and it helps that I'm into speakers and sound.thank you!
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Thanks for sharing Ben! That art is cool too!
i wonder if it wouldnt rattle as much if it was put horizontally so that the springs mostly go in and out and not run into eachother :)
@@Peron1-MC a lot of people commenting about avoiding the rattling. the simple answer is to turn it down. i just turned it up cus i like the rattles
please give us an answer what is the rhythm you played on guitar synth controller :D
your channel is fantastic!have u ever tried this technology? www.audiotechnologies.gr/index_files/Page35234.htm
I could not imagine a better tool for making scifi sound tracks.
Reminds me of the sci-fi sounds that used to come from the BBC Radiophonic Workshop.
I know, that sounds amazing
This sounds too much like an stadium PA system, i would probably use a theremin instead unless you're working on a dystopian setting
muse should got this for their next killer track
They use this exact sound in Forbidden Planet.
Years ago I was working on an organ in the back room of a music store. I kept hearing reverb every time I made a sound yet no reverb was on the organ. I finally realized that an upright piano right behind the organ had its action removed. This left all the strings un-damped. They were resonating from the organ sound. Thing is there was a string for every note in the organ all tuned perfectly to each note. It was an amazing effect.
That's just about the coolest thing I ever heard! :)
...might be suited for heating the room as well
Re: Active mods yes please.
it does look like a space heater
German?
Yeah true or some sort of light
Like fluorescent tubes
Until the speaker drys out and catches fire.
Ha, the clipping is literally just the wires smacking together.
Their waves are physically being clipped, that's nuts.
Sounds even worse, but also better, than actual clipping.
@@rickc2102 shit you're right
@@Ferrichrome Clippings really hurt... dare touch it
I bet the sound designer for a horror movie would love that thing.
Totally agree.
I could see this being used in Star Wars easily lol
A Spring Reverb Speaker like this was actually used to create the Transporter sound in the Original Star Trek back in the late 60's. I have a book around here somewhere that discusses all the backstage production stuff of the series. Has all kinds of cool little tid bits in it. Like how the Tribble's "Purr" is actually just a Cricket pitch shifted down and slowed.
It sounds like the music from every episode of Doctor Who ---- being played all at once!
The wind-like noise generated by the springs immediately creates a post-apocalyptic-like ambience, and I love it
I think the dilapidated and aged state of the speaker itself really adds to the apocalyptic sound.
Léo Battle Me Too I Love It
S.T.A.L.K.E.R./Metro-esque
Everybody gangsta till the reverb speaker starts walkin
Pussy
My washingmachine s been walking for years
@@reedy_9619 how many km?
But is your refrigerator running?
@@David-bc4rh yes, it is...
@@rikospostmodernlife Of course 42
This is hands down the coolest thing I've seen in a Long Time
I second that wholeheartedly Sir! And out LMNC Boy definitely gave it the exact right and perfect treatment!
This is the coolest thing of Long Time
what is a Long Time?
Ya know, it doesn't take much to entertain some people!
Hey, I resemble that remark!😁
@@JUST2y longer than a Short Time? Like... Ages! 😁
normal clipping in audio gives me some sort of low-stakes anxiety, but the springs buzzing against each other and their enclosure is a whole new level
That frequency sweep you did has so so many sweet spots. The drum loop sounds fucking cool too, especially the claps.
There were at least two dead spots in that speaker as well. Pretty good considering modern speakers have more dead spots than that.
good thing my granddad couldn't hear that first tone sweep you did the poor guy would have probably thought the Germans were invading again
hahahahahaha
@Bob Wilson oh shut up, German workers are also oppressed and Greek 0.1%ers are also oppressors.
Dive bombers incoming!
@Bob Wilson So you are the one xenophobic subscriber of LMNC? Good to know.
@Thingaloo thank you!
I am German and I can tell you our military is even more incompetent than yours, we wouldn’t even make it across the channel. So your safe for now.
The way the thing is jumping around on the bass notes is SO your aesthetic. What a nice gift :)
Oh, nice to see you here :)
Cool as it got back then. This looks 60's though I am on States side of the pond. It is important to note the springs are driven in the center by a direct physical connection to the speaker. Hence the springs sound couples back to the speaker and is heard. I have never seen anything like it.
Caution! That speaker is rated for no more than 20 watts, and that kind of bass will damage it. It's brittle paper and phenolic held together with crisp glue. It's no ordinary speaker.
inb4 someone handcrafts a new version with aramide cones
@@mindbreak666 brb gonna frankenstein one of my Focal car speakers
@@MyOldNameWasTaken upload method and results ploxx
I wonder how much fun I could have with one ten or twenty times more powerful hahaha
interesting insight
When I was a kid, my friends dad was cleaning out stuff from their grandfathers attic and he pulled out something like the one in the video and said we could play with it. Well kids being kids we essentially destroyed it, throwing it around and kick it in listening to the pained cries of the springs. Lot of fun but boy do I feel like a shithead destroying such an interesting piece of audio history. Glad some made it :D
Anyone who has ever knocked into an old Peavey combo amp from the 80's knows that calamitous garage door spring breaking sound all too well.
I had a 100W Crate 2x12 combo amp I bought brand New In 2008 or thereabouts and it had a spring reverb with actual springs so at least then those were still used. It was not an expensive amp either, just a cheap transistor one.
6:40 sounded amazing. Anything that goes into the deeper sounds just gets the springs to jump around crazy making their own noises that distracts from the original sound. But this is amazing for higher to mid ranged frequencies.
Yeah, and that part reminded me very strongly of some EBM tune that I've heard very often but can't think of the name right now...
@@arnonuehm2 I'd love to know the tune, its friggin awesome :'D
that byproduct ringing of springs beating against each othe, that noise - gives the sound a character
That could be a cool diy project, maybe testing different types and lengths of springs. It's cool how it kinda visualizes the sound, too.
id have to paint my springs with a nice range of colours
even better paint them with thermal paint so that when the springs heat up from movement they change colour
I'd use smaller diameter springs, or put them further apart, so tey don't collide, to get rid of the 'clanking' when they hit eachother.
@@KCML82 I kind of like that effect , but I get what you mean, Id also take away that central bar that sort of holds the springs and replace them with individual strengthening rods for each spring , that way any vibrations are not sent along the central support beam and then passed into the adjacent coils causing feedback. But I guess its all a part of the unique sound that box makes. You could easily experiment with different coils .
@@KCML82 Maybe not as much collision but a little can be useful
I love that you can actually see the waveforms as the springs go into resonance....you can see the nodes and anti-nodes..... higher the frequency the more waves are visible.... good visual acoustics !
Kinda disappointed that he didn’t test the playstation 2 startup on this thing
Nes
It would’ve left a crater in the table
It's a time bomb
DO IT no jk he would destroy the fabric of reality
please by the love of god do this!
that speaker can take a beating wow
Beat it beat it - Michael Jackson
YOu'd be amazed at what some older speakers can take. I had a set of 1960's era "home theater" speakers with a 12" sub, 6" mid and 1 or 2" tweeter in each upright box and those things were LOUD. They took decades of use and then some abuse from me as a teenager using it to play my electric guitar through the system... And playing my metal. It took me cranking everything to the max to pop one of the old paper and glue sub woofers (though it was more a failure of materials).... Great fun, actually kind of made it hard to breath and got me a call to the police from neighbors a mile away!
@@SilvaDreams I have a pair i of vintage technics, they get real loud while continuing to sound amazing but i would not dare to test them THAT hard lol
@@OvAeons i have a set of technics sb-6000a good bass, good highs but no mids. I guess my infinity rs 3b have spoiled me.
Awesome reverb, I love the sound, seeing the sound waves begin to "phase" and multiply at certain frequencies is great :)
You need to add electricity so it sparks when they touch
Steven Nelson and a blue light to help catch passing fly’s
Or add heating springs so it glows red
Emerald Blaze those could be heating springs if you ran enough current through them.
Get together with the electroboom guy!!!
yeah,
make the springs glow red hot +
arcs when they touch +
ultraviolet light for the flys +
ram some styrofoam in there while filming that madness
HAHAH
I'll admit - I was slightly afraid those low frequencies were going to destroy it. Awsome sounds!
When you play cool synth sounds through this, you get sprung!
As everybody recoils in horror at the bad puns, lol
Please, spring no more upon us!
It was a miri-coil anyone saw this but you sprang outa nowhere and replied. Thanks
Ezee Posse TV Oh please, I recoil at such a bad pun, at least aim for something that resonates!
Should build some "new" versions of this. Give more room between the springs and have them further from the back board so they wont hit the backboard and each other as easily.
Spring reverb is a pretty common thing in decent guitar amps.
N1nj4L1nk pretty sure he means analog spring reverb. Not digital.
@@txspeck so did I. I got a Hughes and kettner amp, in 2011 with proper spring reverb. It wasn't even an expensive one (£250). Before you say, yes, I'm sure it was analogue; digital doesn't make spring noises when unplugged and knocked.
@@n1nj4l1nk you sure it wasnt a combo/cabinet, not an amp?
@@NVMDSTEvil yeah it was a combo, I've always just called them amps haha.
Anyway, my point was that I'm confused that it's so cool to you all when it's a fairly common thing.
So, it's seems like it's the reverb speaker from a Dax-Éko RA40. It seems to be stereo speakers with two elements, one with and one without springs, presumably so you could add reverb to your music!?
cool thanks for the info
hi lennart!
@@JohannesRaggam Hey! What's up?
Did you know that off the top of your head, @Lennart Regebro?
@@tonyennis1787 No, I'm not an encyclopedia.
When I'm in the bed and I'm farting away I can hear my farts reverberating throughout the mattress springs.
Dammm i was not ready to hear that
gotta love when gross old people with fetishes just talk about it in every comment possible
jesus christ
That sounds a gas! 😆😁🤫😉🇬🇧❤️🇵🇸🍉.
@john ohalloran - I'll wager you sleep alone very often. 😧😧😨😨🤣🤣
Greetings from Los Angeles.
Record it and sell it as a sample pack
This reverb actually sounds pretty decent. The different spring thickness is to smooth out the reverb even more. (not support at all) 4 springs will also do that. A good thing to to do would be to mount a piezo pickup at one end to just isolate the reverb out. Even better thing would be a piezo pickup at each end on the support brackets. Then you would get a lovely stereo spring reverb effect without the dry signal. The Mic is going to pickup the dry signal which is not really wanted. It sounds quite long though. You could also wedge some light foam in between the springs to speed up the reverb time as well. I have done this before.
I like how you think!
I'm an old boy now, but back in 1965 I played in a garage band for two years. Back then it really was a garage band because parents would only let us play that loud in a garage. At least until you're good enough to be let into the basement. Anyway, I was the lead guitarist and had, I think it was a 100watt amp, nothin' special. But it did have tremello and reverb. And the reverb was springs mounted on a block of wood. I know, because back then I would take things apart to understand. We would rock the amp back and forth to get the reverb block to crash and do its thing... Really enjoyed this video!!!
Although the springs slapping the wood housing added an interesting effect you could build a new housing designed to avoid that interaction. It might be fun to add an electromechanical tremolo.
adding another fun fact: in physics class when in high school, our teacher once demonstrated the effect of resonance frequencies by using almost the same loudspeaker with springs enclosure coupled to a tone generator... well, exactly what you did towards the end of your video demo!
It was doing a very good job at demonstrating standing waves as well.
Burial should get himself one of these, perfect for his futurist, dystopian soundscapes.
5:00 i really want to see you make some music with this darn thing with those 'spacey' sounds its just too glorious
Yes, i was really hoping it was an actuall track
Reminds me of Infected Mushroom somehow.
7:20 feels like the start of a Death Grips track to me.
How the trips never stops
Also how sick would those look painted under a black light
A strobe light would be the ticket here
Thats an excellent idea, as long as the paint doesnt interfere with the reverberation
calm down panama red.
@@crimescene25 what?
@@crimescene25 yah what?
ive seen antique speakers with strings like in a piano . Very scifi soundtrack.Variable spring tension would interesting, controlled by midi using servos.
This thing is crying out for a strobe light!
Love this sound, whoever thought of this is a genius...
Finally discovered where are minecraft cave sounds comimg from.
Imagine walking through a foggy area and this thing starts going off.
Oh man.
But it'd be pretty fun.
Loving that, reminds me of Delia Derbyshire at the BBC radiophonic workshop.
Convolution Reverb: ,,i can make trippy reverb FX"
Spring Speaker Reverb: ,, hold my springs"....
this is brilliant on so many levels. every frame a painting + personality
That is actually a very, very cool sound! It reminds me of some special effects sounds I've hears from old movies in the 1960s. And apparently a huge amount of unaccountable fun from such a simple device lol! Enjoy your vids!
You should be the sound composer for the next tron movie.
Just the thing for your upcoming dub side project I'd reckon.
Did some one say dub?? My ears always tingle whenever that word is uttered anywhere in the cosmos.
It's like a kids plastic microphone we all sang in to when we were little bit this ones for adults.
Even when your presenting it, sometimes, we can listen a little eco/reverb comming from the speaker.
That's stupendous.
A mate had an old organ with one in, the springs are usually arranged to resonate at different frequencies. The organ also a speaker with two revolving horns over it to make the sound go round the room, I replaced the speaker on that. There were several other physical tricks in there, as opposed to electronic.
I have a stereo spring line delay, about 3 ft long, its awesom, no use for it now though. 4 xlr plugs on it, active whereas your unit is a passive reverb, its got an attenuation controll on each channel too. If you just want a lot of reverb, the output of one channel can be fed into the other. I think it was used in the theatre or a professional orchestra.
"I've been making a membrane speaker that visualises lasers for my girlfriend"
God I wish that were me
Yeah I kind of wanted more of an explanation on that one!
What does that even mean?!😂
Looks like it could be out of an old organ. One of the foot pedals would control a padded (felt) lever that would touch the springs and stop or start the reverb effect. ...or possibly an early guitar amp. But the age/look of the 6x9 speaker on there definitely leans closer to like... an old Hammond organ.
so thats how they make cars racing in tunnel sounds
"Speakers, yeah." I am already pleased by this video and it could end right there.
This is badass. Cheap to make, easy to understand. I could see this being a part of one's daily kit.
thank god its easy for someone to understand... is it just physically oriented in place or is it wired some way into the speaker?
I haven't seen one of these things specifically before, but when I was a kid, my local science store (which still exists, American Science and Surplus) had something vaguely similar looking in one of their unsorted bins. It was a largish rectangular box with an RCA jack on both ends, and a jillion tightly stretched thin bare wires running back and forth, which I THINK were insulated on each end so that it was effectively one very long wire (no speaker though).
The guy who I asked about it guessed it was used to create a delay, but I was like "there would have to be thousands of miles of wire to get a noticeable delay, right?" He grunted and told me to buzz off (the people who worked there then, unlike now, were super-cranky). I'm wondering if it was actually a different kind of reverb, with the wires interacting with each other magnetically and vibrating when you ran a signal through it. Wish I had bought it 40 years ago, it would be interesting to make one and see if it works.
Edit: A little 40 year delayed googling (wish THAT existed in the 1970s, it would have made trash picking weird electronics a lot easier) has turned up a lot of devices similar to what I remember, called "reverb tanks". Most of them had springs inside where I recall the wires as straight, but otherwise, same thing with no speaker required, just a jack on the ends and weird insulating thingies on each end.
Sounds just like a normal spring reverb but with wires instead of springs.
Used to put those in the backseats of cars. "Reverb" was a cool thing.
My brother had a Pontiac convertible he was attempting to restore which had a reverb tank mounted in the trunk. He never did finish restoring it, his 1st wife made him sell it.
Sounds crazy good
So kewl.
I have an old spring and tuned strings reverb box homemade from a cigar box and fitted with a (now inoperable) digital mic from a headset that I used to use sometimes when I used to play my banjo over Yahoo voice chat. This vid makes me want to go the other way 'round and make it a speaker, just for the heck of it.
Great vid!
Nature creates the most Beautifully unique sounds, the drums sound amazing through the springs
I had a couple of Sansui reverb amplifiers that used springs like these. They were early 1970's vintage, and were adjustable, via tension, and dampening. Your speaker is likely the same vintage, or perhaps late 1960's. The trouble with mechanical reverb, is that it is indiscriminate about what signals are reverberated. Solid state devices proved to be more reliable. That's a cool find.👍👍
Would tuning individual springs, and being able to de-tension or damp them help? Of course it would not be as versatile as a digital reverb, but people who like these old things don't care about that.
@@tonyennis1787 In my experience, that doesn't do much for the sound quality. I don't have them anymore, or I would try it.
That is the coolest reverb I've ever heard. The drums are incredible through that thing.
I used to have a crate guitar amp with a spring reverb in it. The kids in my guitar class used to knock it over all the time and the reverb would almost blow out the speakers.
This has the coolest yet eeriest sound I have ever heard and I love it!
This would be such a great asset for sound design in a video game.
Actually...
...Can I borrow that for a sec? Hah
6 minutes 43 seconds completely awesome I want that one hour of that
7:40 sounds like an alien invasion
dear earthlings... we require all of earths springs, for our alien speakers
I was surprised at how much like a real reverb this sounds, rather than a spring. Are the springs at a different tensions? At looks like the top one (as you have it laid down) moves far less than the others. Maybe emulating early reflections.
It has different wire gauges. The loose ones for the first part of the effect, the thight ones are for the decaying effect. I think these are reused piano wire.
Looks like a genetic modified chest expander exercise thing from the 60s
Ooooh ideas!
LoL,
Plug that fkr in whilst
Belt Sanding ones gunt,
On one of those same era
Fat Blaster.
A hazard to hairy chests.
Awesome video. Thank you for playing a variety of sounds through this reverb box.
Im impressed with the energy that speaker is putting out to reverb the springs like that
Me before the video: It's just a speaker with some springs, can't be that good, but curious enough to watch.
Me after the video: I want one, could be really good for certain genres of music.
If you got a speaker all you need is springs ;) you could even build a frame for the springs that attach over the speaker, making them a removable option :D
You have to attach the spring holder directly to the speaker to get the proper effect. Thats the trick
Could make some serious techno kicks with this thing
When it hit that perfect resonant frequency to make it shake, it made me think how cool it would be if you actually could build a Tesla Oscillator (the earthquake machine).
If I'm not mistaken, all we have to do is find out the frequency of a certain object, and then match that frequency with a soundwave and put it next to it, in order to make it move.
Basicly a speaker is Nikola Tesla his earthquake machine. It is the same mechanism. Thats why resonating sound freqeuncies amplify the sound. And for bass this can be perfect. But bass can also destroy houses cos of resonating frequencies. Like a bridge in the wind once broke. Wind is actually like sound. Just a wave in the atmosphere.
But Nikola Tesla also had a secret. So we cannot create the actual device that he was using. We can only create the mechanism that did the up and down movement.
Tesla has specific patents pertaining to the "Tesla Oscillator" and I'm fairly sure you can just outright buy a model based on his patents but yes it's very similar to a speaker just able to span a broad spectrum to cause the sympathetic vibration, just like when an opera singer breaks a wine glass. But these are the things he could explain/talk about in his video, if he were to get into this subject. I just think it would be a fun project.
@@nomadautodidact Yes you can. He had different types with steam and without etc. It's very interesting. But those devices om itself can sadly not explain an earthquake machine. Nikola Tesla had the keys. Those keys he never gave.
Omg so cool!
So fascinating..high to low sounded funky, then sounded like a train leaving a subway station in eastern Europe. Where everything is tile floor to ceiling.
5:35 and this is pretty cool too especially with the springs clashing. Adding this to my Musical Inspiration playlist.
I think cleaning the springs would help them oscillate at higher frequencies, making the reverb less muddy
At first I thought "What IS this...?"
Now I'm "What IS this and HOW can I make the rest of my LIFE about it?"
It would work better in a radial pattern, so the springs dont collide, and theres more reverb space.
amazing i'm very glad that you review it
personally i have a pair of headset with it's own sound card that have the ability to play in 7.1 surround sound AND i was amazed to hear that actually sound like it is true surround sound when i disable the program
I've got one of those tube reverby thingies you mentioned with the dangly spring. Cool! Of all the places I bought it from the gift shop at Avebury stone circle, probably adding to the perceived weirdness!
Make a pick up for it, add it to cosmo. This would be cool to use live.
Sounds kinda like a rotary car going through a tunnel .
that it does !
I took apart a small modern amp and it had a single spring in it similar to this.
Fender practice amps have theses
i'm assuming the digital age of music has made people completely forget what non-digital (like guitar) instruments use and do. this is standard guitar amp fare.
Spring reverb is common in guitar and bass amps. One of my 100W Amps has spring reverb and when I'm using it can kick the amp to make thunder noises as effects, the spring is part of the wiring somehow and the reverb effect happens electronically rather than acoustically. You are overdriving the spring unit so they bang together which is how I get the thunder sound with mine.
Came across your channel by accident and now I'm subbing, this is the most incredible thing I've seen in ages and it helps that I'm into speakers and sound.thank you!
If this was April fools I would have thought this bloke just put a space heater into Sony Vegas.
Ha lmao
I think I'd use it for single sounds, sparingly. Playing many at once probably dulls the effect.
I used to install reverbs on cars in the late 1960s. Very loud when you go over a railroad track. Yours reminds me of Forbidden Planet's sound track.
That is so cool, reminds me of early 70's Chrysler car radios that had what I recall them being called, a "Reverb amplifier".
A disturbing noise,.... I love it!
4:12 during that little sound check bit I don’t think that’s a speaker I think that’s a early 40s-50s radial engine or early jet engine plane
Yeah. Same here. Sounded like that video of an afterburner test.
My Hammond organ has a spring reverb unit in the back
Scale this way up. The way it would move air might make for a unique sonic-haptic experience.
lets get colin furze on the phone
YES
Mad how a set of springs over a speaker in a box can have so much character! Got me inspired! Thanks Sam! Sounded like cars on the sweep!
The springs are physically connected to the speaker via two wire rods, so the energy in the springs gets coupled right back into the diaphragm.
Nothing beats a spring reverb
5:00 what song is that from?
Also 5:16
that would sound amazing with some 80's synth style music like eurythmics and such.
So you mean like synthwave, vapor wave, new retro wave and such?
AUDAX was a French loudspeaker manufacturer founded in 1931.
"The company will use state-of-the-art techniques to develop its range using Bextrene, Ferrofluid or Aerogel. Many of these products are known for their acoustic qualities.
In 1987, upon the death of its founder, the company was sold to the Harman group.
In September 2007, the Harman group sold the brand and manufacture of Audax loudspeakers to AAC (Composite Acoustic Applications)."
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audax_(entreprise)
Audax website in 1996: web.archive.org/web/19961029133341/www.audax.com/
Audax website in 2018 (AAC): web.archive.org/web/20180630144533/www.audax.com/index.php
I never saw this kind of spring reverb working like a resonator... Incredible! Thanks for showcasing this strange thing with a very interesting sound!
Brother, that thing is incredible. I'm glad it found you, you're THE guy to have something like this. :D