You HONESTLY consider these headphones to be superior to the Abyss range? Incidentally, if I was to buy a pair of these, I wouldn't be able to order the spare pads you recommended. Therefore, which pads would you suggest that are VEGAN?
@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices the abyss are definitely still more detailed. On the ZMF site is says they have vegan options as suede instead of leather. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that applies to the be2 suede perforated pads.
@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices their site implies that the suede options are vegan. Though I can ask them that in the next couple days and circle back on this comment to confirm.
@@DMS3TV, that would be very nice of you. Incidentally, I don't believe I heard you mention the price of the ZMF's that you reviewed here. I'll search their website pronto!
Had the chance to try these out today and GOD I loved them! Really lush and rich mids, super easy on the ears, worked really well with whatever I threw at them! Was shocked to see the frequency response after having tried them haha. I agree with the "endgame for people who like 6XX" take, super relaxing both in terms of sound and comfort. Hopefully one day I'll be able to own a pair!
Fantastic video, one of the best I've seen. Great eye candy in the shots, lighting, mix. I like how you incorporated the frequency response graphs and then balanced all that with a human reaction. Nice comparison to the HD6XX.
I understand and very much agree with the 6xx comparison. I had a nice honeymoon period with the Atrium but eventually it was too smooth (not enough details?) for my tastes and I found I keep reaching back to the Susvara and sold the ZMF. I'm sure that for many this will be end game and they won't miss a thing. It's a great choice and was a fantastic experience for me as my first ZMF. Since then got a VC as well that might be staying, different tuning and closed back make it more reasonable to compliment my collection but time will tell. Thanks for the review!
Similar situation here. I've a susvara and a VC, Both sound holographic but both present different sounds the VC is dynamic, fast, engaging and punchy, and the susvara is ethereal an almost Omni present sound. The atrium I tried at canjam Singapore was a pleasant listen, great soundstage size, great timbre just like the VC. But the atrium lacks in technicalities in my opinion, the VC although it's closed it's better in detail, speed and imaging.
Great review DMS. Was looking forward to hearing your take. I own 6 headphones and two of those are ZMF’s already. After watching this I might need to add the Atrium to my list. Stabilized in November is probably in my future.
My wife made fun of my Atriums, but adores the Verite Closed. lol I have to agree -- the grills aren't my favorite. I love the wood, however. Nonetheless, they sound amazing.
I'm amused by the fact that every reviewer who has showered this headphone with praise, from Tyler'sEclectic to Zeos to William from The HEADPHONE Experience to now DMS, has called this one of the greatest ever but only with their specific favorite pad, and each and every one of them picked a totally different "this is the ONE and only" pad.
Just in general, our ears are shaped more uniquely than our fingerprints, and the folds and diameters and size, etc… these all alter sound vs a microphone out in a free field, THEREFORE our ears perform a personal EQ change to everything we hear. Since we hear differently, it’s only natural we might prefer different pads, and that’s even before you account for personal preference in sound and comfort. So, it’s valid :)
@@evshrug yep thicker pads from ZMF are made specific for my head :D hybrids and suede especially comfy + sealing perfect, I got that feeling when I put my VC on head something like "yep, there is my baby made for me" haha
Going back to this video to just quickly check sth, i've noticed that up until now there was no video on the McIntosh Tube amp nor the Feliks that they've tried in Munich. Well but i guess that's understandable given how much has changed for DMS during the last months. He must be really busy. Still wonder if we'll see it tho
Feliks still has plans to mail it over at some point. The McIntosh amp was a hot trash disaster of an amp. I ended up loosing the footage unfortunately.
That bass roll off is preventing me from buying this headphone ugh, I’ll see how the closed back does when it comes out. Also, I can’t wait to see how the Auteur’s update does when it comes out.
I had it 2 years on my list, now I finally own it. It is crown jewel of my little collection, its the one that makes me smile when bass drops. Fun fact about my VC that makes it different from Atrium, when VC hit me with heavy bassline I dont smile I think "damn those headphones are scary" it can be a real gangster in delivery of sound. Love them both and will most likely upgrade my tube amp to top tier just to maximize their potential.
Love your informative videos, I currently own a few different headphones but really can't fault the Sundara at it's current price, Your review of the Fiio K9 got me ready to buy one, but they have switched tow a paqir of ESS DAC chips, It would be really good if you could compare the new version to the one you really liked, as a Sundara user I was wondering if the ESS DAC chpis may spoil that synergy. Thanks.
ZMF has never disappointed..... Beautiful craftsmanship and sublime sound made by one of the nicest people in the Audio game . Now Zach make a $600ish headphone so the rest of the audiophile world can afford one
@@BobbyDigital6411 lolol. Yes, but that's not the one. Zach confirmed he's still working on a planar for under $1000, so we should see that come at some point next year.
So is this the best timbre in a headphone? Sennheiser 6 series is regarded as king of timbre by many reviewers . Does it beats sennheiser 6 series for timbre
I'm actually surprised I didn't hear "timbre" anywhere in this review, because the Atrium are kings of that category, IMO. Biocellulose and Ribbons tend to be considered best for timbre, AFAIK.
A lot of measurements I've seen from reviewers have a spike around 5 to 6 kilohertz, I was wondering if you heard this, and if not, might that be because they were using subpar gear like clone couplers etc.?
It can be a number of factors and depends on the canal impedance, pinna, etc. These days I have a few rigs around (gras, b&k, etc). On some rigs I get a spike, in some I don't. Thats hPtf variations.
My biggest fault, after burn in, was it was very soft and undefined in the leading edge. If a pad/mesh/tube swap gets me there then yeah, they are close to everything i want.
I’m a pad novice. Is there a particular pilot pad that you recommend for the Atrium? Also, do you have an ETA for the Caldera review? I’d really like to know how they compare while the Redheart limited editions are available in both the Atrium and Caldera.
I haven't tried the be2 pads. I have the stock and the auteur perf lambskin. I found the auteur pads to add more depth out in front of you, Add more bass rumble, and have more musicality to them vs stock. I'm a staging junkie. I like the out of head experience. Do the be2 pads do that?
I know it's an apples to oranges comparison (open back vs closed back), but how do you think the Atrium compares to something like the Focal Stellia in terms of detail since both are dynamic?
ok but... compared to 6XX does this Atrium better imaging? I mean... wider and deeper soundstage (but not as false as that with HD800)? ... and compared to 600? (imho 6xx is a little bit too warm)
It sucks that for the average person living in the US there’s almost nowhere to go demo headphones before purchasing. Maybe Crinacle will take me in for a few days lol.
Hey Man! Your videos are just great! You inspired me so much of getting new different type of headphones. Now i have to decide but would like to hear your advice: - Beyerdynamic DT 990 Edition (600 Ohm) - Sennheiser HD560S - Hifiman HE400se - AKG 701/702 I want to run them with AMP --> Sound BlasterX G6 - what you think about that? Im from EUROPE so sadly the 6XX etc. is not available / no choice for me.... I want to use the setup on PC for gaming and listening to music. Highly enjoying crystal clear music but want some decent/nice bass. Which of those you would recommend for my use? Regards, Benny
That will depend on your preferences. I have a HE1000se and not a Susvara, but I'd like to think my situation still applies. I traded my VC for an Atrium to give it a shot. The Atrium strays the furthest from the HE1000se sound, so I ultimately chose to stick with it as my HE1000se companion as my goal was to have 2 drastically different but equally enjoyable headphones. If you want to contrast the Susvara sound as much as possible, grab the Atrium. If you want a contrasting headphone but are worried about missing out on a bit of detail and speed if those are essential for you, then grab a Vérité. You can't really go wrong with either.
DMS, What do you recommend for a closed back version of the sennheiser hd 600 with the same sound signature? I daily drive the 1997 version hd 600 and for iems, I use the fiio fa1.
@@sonicthehedgehog989, I was considering the Neumann ndh20 or the rode nth 100 due to it being neutrality but I really enjoy the intimate mid range vocals of the hd 600s
@@Burn_In_Oled_On_Purpose me personally I would say yes the ndh20 does provide the desired vocal intimacy. Keep in mind that Neumann is owned by Sennheiser, and they tuned the ndh20 based on the hd650 if I remember correctly, but to me they sound closer to the hd600.
@dms I’m a 1266 phi tc owner. Do you think the atrium or VC make a better compliment to phi tc owners ? Looking for something mids forward smooth warm yet still technical. Something that I can pair with tubes and that will do everything well that the phi tc struggles with. Also looking at used Utopia, lcd4, or final d8k pro. Raal new circumsural or also in the mix.
In my opinion and I've tried nearly all headphones at canjam Singapore, plus having a big collection and a susvara. I would confidently say the VC is vastly superior especially in technicalities speed detail and imaging. The atrium has a very nice soundstage, a soft inoffensive sound. I preferred the VC more cause although it's closed still it can provide all the details and sound big and open at the same time, it's insane. As an advice when ever you get a zmf headphone always look for the pads that provide the largest opening for your ears, interestingly enough that makes it sound holographic and big.
@@sonicthehedgehog989 thank you! I’m a non susvara fan as the tuning Is far too pilote and the bass impact lacks balls. I hope the vc doesn’t have that issue..
@@aceofspades6667 the VC is a great complement to the susvara. The VC sound dynamic, powerful, fast and engaging, it's not a susvara. The susvara is more ethereal which some people call polite, but it's ethereal and tries to project sounds around you. The VC has that holographic capability but it's way more powerful and dynamic. The atrium has a big soundstage it's as big as the susvara, but it's way less detailed. And since the atrium isn't as detailed and fast as the VC, the atrium's shortcomings can become a little annoying. All in all the the VC isn't a susvara but it's a fantastic complementary sound.
@@aceofspades6667 I own the VC and think from what you have described it would be better for what you want. It's an excellent headphone. It sounds really good on solid state but sounds excellent on tubes. Pads really do make some noticeable changes in the presentation.
Only difference between my headphones and the very best is money.....rather a 6xx and a full stomach and food for my family....but thank you for your opinions. It's not like someone like me could ever afford to own or review such a piece of art
6xx is fantastic! One of the most pleasant sound signatures if you like it. I've heard more "detailed" and "clear" headphones but not all details make the music better and they are clearer than people give them credit for, again if it sounds good to you. If you buy them and you like them there's no need for fomo. The cost of "better" hurts more than it actually improves the sound imo.
ok so i still think your comment is weird, but i did now notice that he is wearing a different shirt for the top-down closeups of the headphone than he is for the rest of the video
Hello, thanks for Your work :)) I'm happy owner of Hifiman Arya Stelth, how would You compare ? Is it worth to sell and buy Atrium ? Or is it Different and there is no comparison? What's your thoughts around it ? :)) thanks again!
I ordered ZMF Atticus yesterday. First high quality headphones ever. I have been using Sony XM3s for the last 3 years. I'm so excited! I never would have known about them until finding your channel.
Xm3 are bass heavy, and so does the atticus being the warmest/bassiest in the zmf line but with high quality unlike the sonys. I think you’d definetally like this one, lemme know how it goes!
@@nerfkevin9111 That is why I went with the Atticus. I mainly listen to artists like Bring me the horizon and Rise Against. On my XM3s I have the bass pushed. I do not know if I need an amp or anything. If I bought one, I would get like a FiiO m11. Any suggestions with that? This is my first dip into the audiophile game, funny enough I bought like an end game headphone for some people. I listen to music during my entire 12 hour shift at work plus some at home, that is why I would go with a DAP like the FiiO, So I can do mobile playing at work then USB amp/dac setup while at home.
@@PilotReidB haha nice music taste! I listen to prog metal like periphery and metalcore as well! Bass is definitely a key factor cuz you want to feel that drum kicks. If anything, im selling my Cayin n6ii for a great price if you’re interested, theyll drive anything you want whiles having a 13h battery life for my use. But which fiio are you refering to? The m11 original, pro or the plus?
@@nerfkevin9111 I did not have an exact one I was looking at. I mean, originally I was thinking M17 but I do not need one that big. I will probably just watch a review and figure out which m11 to go with from there. Price is pretty important as I am a college kid and was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth. I do not know if my phone will drive such big headphones. I am also weird and will totally go into a coffee shop with giant ZMF headphones on and love the looks.
And yes for a 300 ohn headphone you want a dap with a more beasty amp to get the most out of youe headphones, a phone will get you volume but wont give you the dynamics and instrument separation like a dedicated source!
Hard line to walk ya know? Diana is more detail and has that planar bass, but I'm sure it's obvious how much I love Atrium too. They're definitely polar opposite headphones.
@@DMS3TV I think you handle it well. Being able to give a glowing review to another brand says a lot about your integrity. Price wise Abyss models are definitely a jump which also makes them not a great comparison. If they made an under $3k headphone such direct comparisons would make more sense.
The dips at 3-4k for the Atrium and HD6XX aren't as much of a characteristic of the rig as you'd hope. In my experience, the HD6XX starts to roll-off at 3k. It loses its accuracy and linearity beyond that range, objectively speaking. This is coming from GRAS 43AG measurements compensated to my own neutral target. I spoke on this as part of my review on LTT Forum, entitled "Vintage for a premium: The HD6XX review".
Want to see more of my reviews? I post every week over on the headphone show! ua-cam.com/users/TheHEADPHONEShow
You HONESTLY consider these headphones to be superior to the Abyss range?
Incidentally, if I was to buy a pair of these, I wouldn't be able to order the spare pads you recommended. Therefore, which pads would you suggest that are VEGAN?
@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices the abyss are definitely still more detailed.
On the ZMF site is says they have vegan options as suede instead of leather. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that applies to the be2 suede perforated pads.
@@DMS3TV, thank you for such a PROMPT response, Sir!
Are you implying that the suede is VEGAN suede (because suede is actually a kind of leather)?
@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices their site implies that the suede options are vegan. Though I can ask them that in the next couple days and circle back on this comment to confirm.
@@DMS3TV, that would be very nice of you.
Incidentally, I don't believe I heard you mention the price of the ZMF's that you reviewed here. I'll search their website pronto!
I highly appreciate that despite the Headphone Show gig you still add new videos on your channel.
completely agree!
Ill always post stuff here 😄 as long as I'm standing
@@DMS3TV correction sitting :D
Same
Had the chance to try these out today and GOD I loved them! Really lush and rich mids, super easy on the ears, worked really well with whatever I threw at them! Was shocked to see the frequency response after having tried them haha. I agree with the "endgame for people who like 6XX" take, super relaxing both in terms of sound and comfort. Hopefully one day I'll be able to own a pair!
Man, how I love the songs in your videos!
Fantastic video, one of the best I've seen. Great eye candy in the shots, lighting, mix. I like how you incorporated the frequency response graphs and then balanced all that with a human reaction. Nice comparison to the HD6XX.
I understand and very much agree with the 6xx comparison. I had a nice honeymoon period with the Atrium but eventually it was too smooth (not enough details?) for my tastes and I found I keep reaching back to the Susvara and sold the ZMF. I'm sure that for many this will be end game and they won't miss a thing. It's a great choice and was a fantastic experience for me as my first ZMF. Since then got a VC as well that might be staying, different tuning and closed back make it more reasonable to compliment my collection but time will tell. Thanks for the review!
Similar situation here.
I've a susvara and a VC, Both sound holographic but both present different sounds the VC is dynamic, fast, engaging and punchy, and the susvara is ethereal an almost Omni present sound.
The atrium I tried at canjam Singapore was a pleasant listen, great soundstage size, great timbre just like the VC.
But the atrium lacks in technicalities in my opinion, the VC although it's closed it's better in detail, speed and imaging.
@@sonicthehedgehog989 what amp dac you use with VC and susvara?
What amp dac you prefer with susvara?
@@TheColorization I have a Rockna Wavedream Edition DAC and Enleum Amp-23r amp for the Susvara
I think he likes this headphone guys
He just might
Thank you for putting in the time and awesome effort of making these videos 🙌🏽
Me: I don't need a new headphone. I already have four.
(Watches this video and bangs table) DAMN IT. I need this headphone!
Is this better than the Diana MR?
Still rock my dt880 pro 600ohm. I've heard thousands $ headphones/estats but I always come back to those especially for the $/performance
yea I need to test those with my tubes I'm just curious
The suede headband and pad are more cushy than the stock lambskin and for many, eliminate the need for a pilot pad.
WOOO been waiting for this one haha
Great review DMS. Was looking forward to hearing your take. I own 6 headphones and two of those are ZMF’s already. After watching this I might need to add the Atrium to my list. Stabilized in November is probably in my future.
There's clearly no orange line on the chart, just yellow and red.
I forget sometimes that the average person doesn't use a calibrated or color-accurate display.
It's definitely orange.
My friend and his mom both said zmf headphones were ugly. Showed them a few too. I think they look fantastic
Time to cut your friend loose.
My wife made fun of my Atriums, but adores the Verite Closed. lol I have to agree -- the grills aren't my favorite. I love the wood, however. Nonetheless, they sound amazing.
@@asplmn I like how the grill looks in redheart version
I'm amused by the fact that every reviewer who has showered this headphone with praise, from Tyler'sEclectic to Zeos to William from The HEADPHONE Experience to now DMS, has called this one of the greatest ever but only with their specific favorite pad, and each and every one of them picked a totally different "this is the ONE and only" pad.
@Lagunakid24 Good to know, I have yet to watch that one!
Just in general, our ears are shaped more uniquely than our fingerprints, and the folds and diameters and size, etc… these all alter sound vs a microphone out in a free field, THEREFORE our ears perform a personal EQ change to everything we hear.
Since we hear differently, it’s only natural we might prefer different pads, and that’s even before you account for personal preference in sound and comfort. So, it’s valid :)
@@evshrug yep thicker pads from ZMF are made specific for my head :D hybrids and suede especially comfy + sealing perfect, I got that feeling when I put my VC on head something like "yep, there is my baby made for me" haha
Going back to this video to just quickly check sth, i've noticed that up until now there was no video on the McIntosh Tube amp nor the Feliks that they've tried in Munich. Well but i guess that's understandable given how much has changed for DMS during the last months. He must be really busy. Still wonder if we'll see it tho
Feliks still has plans to mail it over at some point. The McIntosh amp was a hot trash disaster of an amp. I ended up loosing the footage unfortunately.
I have an Atrium with the suede headband and I can report that it does indeed have more padding than the leather strap.
ZMF auteur classic vs ZMF Atrium???
I would love to hear your thoughts.
Didn't think I'd be interested in a dynamic driver totl hp anymore, but here we are. Need to find one to test asap.
DMS please do updated review of ZMF Auteur Classic and Aeolus
That bass roll off is preventing me from buying this headphone ugh, I’ll see how the closed back does when it comes out. Also, I can’t wait to see how the Auteur’s update does when it comes out.
This is next on my list to get 😁
I had it 2 years on my list, now I finally own it. It is crown jewel of my little collection, its the one that makes me smile when bass drops. Fun fact about my VC that makes it different from Atrium, when VC hit me with heavy bassline I dont smile I think "damn those headphones are scary" it can be a real gangster in delivery of sound. Love them both and will most likely upgrade my tube amp to top tier just to maximize their potential.
Thanks for the stellar review as always.
I was wondering what the endgame would be for the Sennheiser HD600 or is it its own endgame?
so whats the go to pad for these now? I dont see the BE2 perforated suede pads on their site anymore, only solid.
Love your informative videos, I currently own a few different headphones but really can't fault the Sundara at it's current price, Your review of the Fiio K9 got me ready to buy one, but they have switched tow a paqir of ESS DAC chips, It would be really good if you could compare the new version to the one you really liked, as a Sundara user I was wondering if the ESS DAC chpis may spoil that synergy. Thanks.
Co-pilot pad made this remarkably comfy for me, Meze Elite comfortable.
What a beautiful headphone.
Any plans to review the new ZMF focal pads? I would love to hear your take on the ZMF Focal+ Sub pads on the Focal Clear OG!
ZMF has never disappointed.....
Beautiful craftsmanship and sublime sound made by one of the nicest people in the Audio game .
Now Zach make a $600ish headphone so the rest of the audiophile world can afford one
I think his Atticus is his entry headphones..... and personally i'm not sure if i like Zach to become too mainstream and lose that niche moniker
he's working on an $800-ish planar
@@asplmn If you're talking' the Caldera then you're close to $3000 off in price.
@@BobbyDigital6411 lolol. Yes, but that's not the one. Zach confirmed he's still working on a planar for under $1000, so we should see that come at some point next year.
For us plebs, we get to buy a used Aeolus.
You misspelled "coupon" in the sponsor segment lol
I need sleep
So is this the best timbre in a headphone?
Sennheiser 6 series is regarded as king of timbre by many reviewers . Does it beats sennheiser 6 series for timbre
I'm actually surprised I didn't hear "timbre" anywhere in this review, because the Atrium are kings of that category, IMO. Biocellulose and Ribbons tend to be considered best for timbre, AFAIK.
@DMS3TV, would you say these are better than the Abyss AB1266 Phi TC?
D, Just going to stick to my moded TYGR's for now.
A lot of measurements I've seen from reviewers have a spike around 5 to 6 kilohertz, I was wondering if you heard this, and if not, might that be because they were using subpar gear like clone couplers etc.?
It can be a number of factors and depends on the canal impedance, pinna, etc. These days I have a few rigs around (gras, b&k, etc). On some rigs I get a spike, in some I don't. Thats hPtf variations.
What mesh was installed with this pair?
I think the BE2 Perforated Suede Pads were the Verite pads. I think... maybe... not sure... I don't actually know 100% 😬
My biggest fault, after burn in, was it was very soft and undefined in the leading edge. If a pad/mesh/tube swap gets me there then yeah, they are close to everything i want.
I preferred my Atriums with solid state over tubes for this reason.
@@asplmn wrong tubes or amp my VC got better definition after I installed Mullard power tubes, now its perfect for me
Thank you for your review. Does the Pilot pad replace the strap that comes with the Atrium and how does it attach to the Atrium? Thank you!
Was this review based on a pre-release solid mesh unit? Or a production with the vented mesh?
Does "the best sounding headphones I ever listened to" also include Abyss Diana? Because the price range is about the same.
I’d like to know this as well. Have you heard the Diana TC?
To me the frequency response looks more reminiscent to the HD 660 S2 than the HD 600 🤔
These are beautiful... "wood" have to try before I buy at that price for sure. Have you tried the RAD-0 by chance?
What's the tube amp you plan to review that has good synergy with the Atrium? The Envy?
Verite Closed with Auteure sheepskin or Eikon pads is a little better imo. The Auteur makes it resolve and just as detailed as the Atrium
ye I'm wondering if I need Atrium at that point, my VC at current tube setting is so good that I'm not sure
I want to set some money aside for a ZMF headphone, preferably one with the best bass. Would that be this one or the Atticus?
or maybe Verite Closed as top tier closed back
I'd love to hear what you think of the Neumann NDH30.
Will you compare this with the Empyrean II?
I’m a pad novice. Is there a particular pilot pad that you recommend for the Atrium? Also, do you have an ETA for the Caldera review? I’d really like to know how they compare while the Redheart limited editions are available in both the Atrium and Caldera.
I haven't tried the be2 pads. I have the stock and the auteur perf lambskin. I found the auteur pads to add more depth out in front of you, Add more bass rumble, and have more musicality to them vs stock. I'm a staging junkie. I like the out of head experience. Do the be2 pads do that?
I know I'm a year late but I have the universe pads and the be2 pads and I much prefer the be2 pads. I don't think I hurts the stage in any way.
I know it's an apples to oranges comparison (open back vs closed back), but how do you think the Atrium compares to something like the Focal Stellia in terms of detail since both are dynamic?
Awesome review! Id love to hear your thoughts on the Thieaudio Monarch v2’s?
ok but... compared to 6XX does this Atrium better imaging? I mean... wider and deeper soundstage (but not as false as that with HD800)? ... and compared to 600? (imho 6xx is a little bit too warm)
Dms can you do a review on the akg k812
Maybe. It's pretty old these days and not that good compared to modern headphones.
I think that they can rival the sennheiser hd 800s
It sucks that for the average person living in the US there’s almost nowhere to go demo headphones before purchasing. Maybe Crinacle will take me in for a few days lol.
Feliks Envy ? I need a seal of approval on that one with the Atrium and dynamics in general to pull the trigger. Thoughts ?
Envy was really really nice. Im getting a cheaper model than that from them though haha.
@@DMS3TV Euforia or Elise then. I can vouch for the Elise myself
How do these compare to the Vérité?
Amazing review DMS ! Thanks. Can it be driven by mojo 2 ?
Hey Man! Your videos are just great! You inspired me so much of getting new different type of headphones.
Now i have to decide but would like to hear your advice:
- Beyerdynamic DT 990 Edition (600 Ohm)
- Sennheiser HD560S
- Hifiman HE400se
- AKG 701/702
I want to run them with AMP --> Sound BlasterX G6 - what you think about that?
Im from EUROPE so sadly the 6XX etc. is not available / no choice for me....
I want to use the setup on PC for gaming and listening to music. Highly enjoying crystal clear music but want some decent/nice bass.
Which of those you would recommend for my use?
Regards,
Benny
are you even sure that soundblaster can handle 600ohm? maybe try dt770 250 ohm its clear sound with good bass, not open back but whatever
Are you going to review the Bravura?
Atrium closed on the way soon? Would love to see these in Ironwood.
Great review, thanks! Would this be the right companion for Susvara or would the the ZMF VC be a better choice?
That will depend on your preferences. I have a HE1000se and not a Susvara, but I'd like to think my situation still applies. I traded my VC for an Atrium to give it a shot. The Atrium strays the furthest from the HE1000se sound, so I ultimately chose to stick with it as my HE1000se companion as my goal was to have 2 drastically different but equally enjoyable headphones. If you want to contrast the Susvara sound as much as possible, grab the Atrium. If you want a contrasting headphone but are worried about missing out on a bit of detail and speed if those are essential for you, then grab a Vérité. You can't really go wrong with either.
@@stevenreinholt9903 Thanks! Good advice.
DMS, What do you recommend for a closed back version of the sennheiser hd 600 with the same sound signature? I daily drive the 1997 version hd 600 and for iems, I use the fiio fa1.
Probably he would say the Neumann ndh20.
@@sonicthehedgehog989, I was considering the Neumann ndh20 or the rode nth 100 due to it being neutrality but I really enjoy the intimate mid range vocals of the hd 600s
@@Burn_In_Oled_On_Purpose me personally I would say yes the ndh20 does provide the desired vocal intimacy.
Keep in mind that Neumann is owned by Sennheiser, and they tuned the ndh20 based on the hd650 if I remember correctly, but to me they sound closer to the hd600.
DMS fav closed back is DCA Aeon Noir....
@@fatdoi003 yes his fav is the DCA.
But the comment specified that he wants a closed back hd600.
How would they pair with a WA7 Fireflies?
Is it even better than the Dianas and all that? Haven't heard you gush about a headphone in a while since the 560S
Diana still wins on Detail and sub-bass.
@@DMS3TV do you think me begging for a couple of years for a 1266 work?
@@mobcrusher4193 unlikely but you could keep trying. I think they're gonna do another giveaway eventually.
@@DMS3TV you are the nicest person on the internet, keep up the great work!
Great video as usual. Is it better in details than the arya stealth or anything specifically that is better than arya stealth ?
@dms I’m a 1266 phi tc owner. Do you think the atrium or VC make a better compliment to phi tc owners ? Looking for something mids forward smooth warm yet still technical. Something that I can pair with tubes and that will do everything well that the phi tc struggles with.
Also looking at used Utopia, lcd4, or final d8k pro. Raal new circumsural or also in the mix.
In my opinion and I've tried nearly all headphones at canjam Singapore, plus having a big collection and a susvara.
I would confidently say the VC is vastly superior especially in technicalities speed detail and imaging.
The atrium has a very nice soundstage, a soft inoffensive sound.
I preferred the VC more cause although it's closed still it can provide all the details and sound big and open at the same time, it's insane.
As an advice when ever you get a zmf headphone always look for the pads that provide the largest opening for your ears, interestingly enough that makes it sound holographic and big.
@@sonicthehedgehog989 thank you! I’m a non susvara fan as the tuning Is far too pilote and the bass impact lacks balls.
I hope the vc doesn’t have that issue..
@@aceofspades6667 the VC is a great complement to the susvara.
The VC sound dynamic, powerful, fast and engaging, it's not a susvara.
The susvara is more ethereal which some people call polite, but it's ethereal and tries to project sounds around you.
The VC has that holographic capability but it's way more powerful and dynamic.
The atrium has a big soundstage it's as big as the susvara, but it's way less detailed.
And since the atrium isn't as detailed and fast as the VC, the atrium's shortcomings can become a little annoying.
All in all the the VC isn't a susvara but it's a fantastic complementary sound.
@@aceofspades6667 I own the VC and think from what you have described it would be better for what you want. It's an excellent headphone. It sounds really good on solid state but sounds excellent on tubes. Pads really do make some noticeable changes in the presentation.
@@sonicthehedgehog989 What is your opinion on the Verite Open compared to the Closed version or the rest of the ZMR even hifiman.
This or the empy 2?
This
They're polar opposites. Atrium is cozy, warm, wide, bliss. Empy 2 is fun, exciting, articulated, sleek.
I use atrium more often.
At this price range I have to try both but I’ll see one I like more
Only difference between my headphones and the very best is money.....rather a 6xx and a full stomach and food for my family....but thank you for your opinions. It's not like someone like me could ever afford to own or review such a piece of art
6xx is fantastic! One of the most pleasant sound signatures if you like it. I've heard more "detailed" and "clear" headphones but not all details make the music better and they are clearer than people give them credit for, again if it sounds good to you.
If you buy them and you like them there's no need for fomo. The cost of "better" hurts more than it actually improves the sound imo.
If I plan to buy this in the future does it make sense to buy a 6xx to sort of "prepare" for the Atrium, I'm more of a one headphone person
I would try 6XX first for sure just to see if you like that kind of tuning
6XX is a no brainer in anyone's collection
Where the link at
This or the Meze Empy/Elite?
Did you pay extra for the different metals?
no... they're the same
Congratulations on the purchase!! I think the Atrium looks like it was blessed by a priest. Lol.
Please review denon d7200 dms
You can find them cheap
Thanks
Love to see your take on them
Does this headphone sound good from Iphone 12? Or it needs iPhone 14?
You need a dac/amp. An iPhone can't power it.
Please do review verite open and Close too
your ad spot has a weird reverb. cmon audio guy 😅
I need more hours in the week. I'm already working 7 days a week to get this vid out.
can you please label your measurements
I wouldn't have the guts to wear that shirt... but I'll listen to your reviews!
wat
ok so i still think your comment is weird, but i did now notice that he is wearing a different shirt for the top-down closeups of the headphone than he is for the rest of the video
@@skengasaurus And...?
This, but the path to go after DT880 (600) on OTL valves (am eng tubes).
What amp do you recommend less than $1500 please?
phone
Hello, thanks for Your work :)) I'm happy owner of Hifiman Arya Stelth, how would You compare ? Is it worth to sell and buy Atrium ? Or is it Different and there is no comparison? What's your thoughts around it ? :)) thanks again!
The best you've ever put on your head? Do you like them over your Abyss?
I ordered ZMF Atticus yesterday. First high quality headphones ever. I have been using Sony XM3s for the last 3 years. I'm so excited! I never would have known about them until finding your channel.
Xm3 are bass heavy, and so does the atticus being the warmest/bassiest in the zmf line but with high quality unlike the sonys. I think you’d definetally like this one, lemme know how it goes!
@@nerfkevin9111 That is why I went with the Atticus. I mainly listen to artists like Bring me the horizon and Rise Against. On my XM3s I have the bass pushed.
I do not know if I need an amp or anything. If I bought one, I would get like a FiiO m11. Any suggestions with that?
This is my first dip into the audiophile game, funny enough I bought like an end game headphone for some people. I listen to music during my entire 12 hour shift at work plus some at home, that is why I would go with a DAP like the FiiO, So I can do mobile playing at work then USB amp/dac setup while at home.
@@PilotReidB haha nice music taste! I listen to prog metal like periphery and metalcore as well! Bass is definitely a key factor cuz you want to feel that drum kicks. If anything, im selling my Cayin n6ii for a great price if you’re interested, theyll drive anything you want whiles having a 13h battery life for my use. But which fiio are you refering to? The m11 original, pro or the plus?
@@nerfkevin9111 I did not have an exact one I was looking at. I mean, originally I was thinking M17 but I do not need one that big. I will probably just watch a review and figure out which m11 to go with from there. Price is pretty important as I am a college kid and was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth. I do not know if my phone will drive such big headphones. I am also weird and will totally go into a coffee shop with giant ZMF headphones on and love the looks.
And yes for a 300 ohn headphone you want a dap with a more beasty amp to get the most out of youe headphones, a phone will get you volume but wont give you the dynamics and instrument separation like a dedicated source!
Pilot strap makes a huge difference in comfort
It's just so clunky - I don't use mine anymore
@@skengasaurus actually I meant the suede strap that is really comfy, it was not the pilot one
Will the Topping DX9power these or would it struggle ?
Ah yes, this is what I will buy in a few years, once I'm done with Uni.. I love my 6XX.
Man all the headphones and audio gear I want are all super expensive.
Dream iem- annihilator
Dream headphones- DCA stealth and atrium
Klarna my friend. Make payments
I know you work for Abyss, but it's a shame to hear no comparisons between this and Abyss headphones.
Hard line to walk ya know? Diana is more detail and has that planar bass, but I'm sure it's obvious how much I love Atrium too. They're definitely polar opposite headphones.
@@DMS3TV I think you handle it well. Being able to give a glowing review to another brand says a lot about your integrity. Price wise Abyss models are definitely a jump which also makes them not a great comparison. If they made an under $3k headphone such direct comparisons would make more sense.
that's quite a conflict of interest...
@@fatdoi003 I edit their podcast. No bias in my book.
It's sales will be on the roof because of this video.
Thanks for another great review. Subbed! Did Atriums you reviewed have solid or vented mesh?
Thanks! The Atrium has a hole pattern in the mesh.
Abyss guys ain't gonna be happy with this 😅
Nah they're cool
That's a red line, not orange.
The dips at 3-4k for the Atrium and HD6XX aren't as much of a characteristic of the rig as you'd hope. In my experience, the HD6XX starts to roll-off at 3k. It loses its accuracy and linearity beyond that range, objectively speaking. This is coming from GRAS 43AG measurements compensated to my own neutral target. I spoke on this as part of my review on LTT Forum, entitled "Vintage for a premium: The HD6XX review".
Yeah but do they sound as good as the Koss Porta Pros?
Wow no sub bass do you have to listen w a subwoofer in the room?
More 650ness than the Auteur?
It's auteur but better basically
Don't use red-green in the graph. I am colorblind. Do something like dash or dash-dot.
Ah! Thanks for the heads up. I'll make that easier in the future