Will Graham Visits Hannibal Lecter | Manhunter (1986) vs Red Dragon (2002) vs Hannibal (2015)

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  • @JoeyHollywoodFilms
    @JoeyHollywoodFilms 3 роки тому +211

    I edited this video, I hope you all enjoyed it!

    • @melvinlee9263
      @melvinlee9263 3 роки тому +2

      Six great performances.

    • @colabama
      @colabama 3 роки тому +5

      You did quite a nice job , thanks Joey!

    • @sbraypaynt
      @sbraypaynt 2 роки тому +2

      @@melvinlee9263 4 great performances*
      Mads
      Hugh
      Bryan
      Anthony
      Edward was terribly directed and not suited to the role.
      And the other guy was as bland as you could get.

    • @Lotselance
      @Lotselance 6 місяців тому +1

      Great edit, I'm happy you included some of the lines in Hannibal that were taken from this scene in the book but placed in other scenes in the show

    • @TheFeebleClone
      @TheFeebleClone 3 місяці тому +1

      Nicely done Joey. Thanks for putting in the effort.

  • @patception8722
    @patception8722 Рік тому +230

    I think that Cox is the most realistic and natural, Hopkins is the most iconic and calculated, and Zaddy Mads is perfect for that specific long running storyline. They’re all fantastic for their versions of the story. One is not better than the other, it more so matters what you want from the story.

  • @Pladderkasse
    @Pladderkasse 3 роки тому +530

    What is so terrifying about Cox's Lector, is not that he's some supernatural, almost mythical being, but rather that he exudes the real life psychopaths relaxed charm. A glib and manipulative surface, under which rage and violence always slumbers, with one eye slightly open.

    • @jsorryman
      @jsorryman 3 роки тому +8

      Bingo

    • @gordonmcinnes8328
      @gordonmcinnes8328 3 роки тому +26

      When Cox says "You want the scent? Smell yourself." there is a real menace and evil there.

    • @kkjhn41
      @kkjhn41 2 роки тому +33

      When seen back to back it makes Hopkins performance seem so over the top and badly melodramatic. His Hannibal screams serial killer and could never get close to any victim in real life. Cox performance is the epitome of the banality of evil. Like the persona he uses when he cons that secretary into giving him Will Grahams home address he can hide who he really is until it's too late for his prey to escape. A predator to his core.

    • @erikvonriese
      @erikvonriese 2 роки тому +16

      I love the way Cox delivers "Have you ever seen blood under moonlight, Will? It appears quite black," as though he's asking whether Graham caught the Orioles game last night. It never fails to give me chills.

    • @criticalbil1
      @criticalbil1 2 роки тому +2

      *exudes
      But yes. Agreed.

  • @xAnescox
    @xAnescox 3 роки тому +98

    Mads Mikkelsen and Hugh Dancy... so romantic. "you just came here to look at me" ahhh Hugh's face, divino. such powerful scene

  • @Saga_Anserum
    @Saga_Anserum 3 роки тому +422

    Cox: "You must think you're smarter than I am, since it was you who caught me..."
    Hopkins: "You must think you're smarter than I am, since it was you who caught me..."
    Mads: *just straight-up turned himself in after getting rejected by his crush*

    • @debofaisbarika5510
      @debofaisbarika5510 3 роки тому +4

      totally.

    • @Byslie
      @Byslie 2 роки тому +55

      I remember watching the episode where he turned himself in with my mom in the room. She didn't know anything about the show or watch any of it but she asked me if Hannibal seriously just turned himself in cuz of a rough break-up

    • @robbie_o_coelho
      @robbie_o_coelho Рік тому +14

      Will did catch Hannibal in season 2 though, season 3 Hannibal just turned himself in rather than go to jail on someone else's terms. Total chad move.

    • @robbie_o_coelho
      @robbie_o_coelho Рік тому +7

      @royaldragon758 Being gay is chad

    • @rcdune7132
      @rcdune7132 Рік тому +1

      Hannibal turning himself in was the dumbest part of that show... I pretty much loved every single other aspect of it... But that part was dumb...🤦🏻

  • @hari-xo2fm
    @hari-xo2fm 3 роки тому +317

    Brain Cox - Psychopath
    Antony Hopkins - Monster
    Mads Mikkelsen - The Devil

    • @squishylee427
      @squishylee427 2 роки тому +5

      Yesss

    • @sonicman9910
      @sonicman9910 2 роки тому +13

      Is Mads really the devil considering he's the only one to actually CARE for Will

    • @robbie_o_coelho
      @robbie_o_coelho Рік тому +28

      ​@@sonicman9910 cares? He tortured will for two seasons.

    • @hi-xp9re
      @hi-xp9re Рік тому +1

      @@robbie_o_coelho as endearment

    • @arrynchaos9912
      @arrynchaos9912 Рік тому

      He's got the largest body count by far, has induced patients into commiting their own murder sprees and somehow defeated a well trained armed FBI director, another armed special agent and an armed alana bloom, with a chefs knife.
      Yes he is the devil.

  • @demeedee3247
    @demeedee3247 3 роки тому +241

    I feel like it's unfair for Mads' Lecter since in the show Will and Hannibal's relationship is more intimate, they were much closer they understood each other and very likely couldn't live without each other. The show is so different from the movies that's why it has such a different feel to it, Mads wasn't trying to scare or put off the audience he was just very likely conveying that he's very happy that Will has finally come to visit him after 3 years.

    • @Byslie
      @Byslie 2 роки тому +22

      Yeah the scene did what it intended to do very well but the purpose was different from the movies, so it's a bit hard to compare them

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 2 роки тому +12

      The Manhunter scene is the first time we see Lecter and the scene conveys the same intimate familiarity, right along with implied terror. He seems like such a friendly, disarming character, you wonder why hes in a cage. Then you remember, oh... right 😐
      Michael Mann, yo.

    • @zakkmylde1712
      @zakkmylde1712 Рік тому +5

      While I do think in the show Hannibal was indeed happy to see Will again that level of intimacy implies a much deeper kind of terror being inflicted. He doesn't need to get forceful confronting that version of Will with their similarities because Will already knows and fears them. That version was just slowly scraping off the scabs of the mental wounds and slowly working his fingers in them. It's horrific in a totally different and dare I say even more visceral way.

    • @Lotselance
      @Lotselance 6 місяців тому +2

      @@zakkmylde1712 It's basically Will relapsing to Hannibal's influence after resisting him for three years.

    • @SuperWonderwall1
      @SuperWonderwall1 3 місяці тому

      @@Lotselanceen que temporadas y capítulo sale esa visita a Mad en la cárcel?

  • @BadBloodwillout
    @BadBloodwillout 3 роки тому +318

    The movie versions are better in this scene. Especially Cox. BUT the tv show is going for a very different vibe. Their relationship is different. So it's not Hannibal being antagonising because Will caught him, like in the other versions. The relationship is much more intimate in the show. They know each other much better already. So the wham lines can't make it in this comparison because they're not in the books. The argument in the movie versions is based on Will trying to get him to help by complimenting him and because Hannibal is fascinated by him and how he caught him (implying they are the same). In the tv show they both know how he was caught (it's different from the movies). In the tv show their argument is mostly based on: Will refering formally to him as 'dr lecter' which Hannibal finds insulting because Will is pretending they have no previous connection. When he brings up Will's son, in the movies it is to let him know he knows Will has a family (And to threaten their safety). But in the tv show he says 'are you a good father?' which is a callback to a previous convo (only in the show) where they were talking about the possibility of Will having children, during therapy. And of course he mirrors Will's movements and talks about how they are family. His point is not to antagonise Will but to pretty much have him admit they have a past together.

    • @Halterin11
      @Halterin11 3 роки тому +9

      Fantastic comment.

    • @annesilva3542
      @annesilva3542 3 роки тому +37

      Also the line right after “is there a child in your life Will?” in the series is “I gave you a child if you recall” which really differentiates their relationship from the movies, he’s not threatening his family’s safety but as you said trying to get him to acknowledge their past, and hurt Will by bringing up Abigail

    • @shadybrain3424
      @shadybrain3424 3 роки тому +6

      well for someone seeing his version of lecter for the first time i think he did very well, almost like a balance between the other two, one hyper realistic (cox) and the other almost like a cartoon character or comic villian, which i mean in a good way (hopkins).

    • @BadBloodwillout
      @BadBloodwillout 3 роки тому +14

      @@shadybrain3424 mikkelsen is very good in the role in general. If you're interested in the character definitely check the series out.

    • @herschelschueler
      @herschelschueler 3 роки тому +2

      Either way the effect is more or less the same and it's perfect. Hannibal takes control of the situation. Despite never truly getting a direct answer from Will his questions are fully answered. Just a brilliant way to set up the relationship in the movies and the book and continuating their relationship in the show.

  • @Secondplanetfromthesun
    @Secondplanetfromthesun Рік тому +54

    I love how you can tell Brian Cox's Lecter is very bitter under the surface about being caught by Will. He tries to rib at him any way possible, talking about his coworkers, asking Will if he dreams, bringing up the card, which if you've read the book, the card is pretty fucked up.

    • @rcdune7132
      @rcdune7132 Рік тому +1

      So does Hopkins for that matter

    • @osmanyousif7849
      @osmanyousif7849 5 місяців тому +6

      Cox's gives off a more bullying vibe than Hopkins. Which I feel works to the movie's advantage, since book Lector is very much like that.

    • @scion999
      @scion999 3 місяці тому

      whats in the card?

    • @qualityautismNoah
      @qualityautismNoah 2 місяці тому +2

      @@scion999 so in the book (iirc) Lecter sent Will a card for Christmas. Will didn't read it, just burned it in the garden, burried the ashes and then washed his hands before touching his wife again. Its just to show how deeply disgusted and traumatized by Lecter he is.

  • @douglas2437
    @douglas2437 Рік тому +39

    I found Mads' portrayal by far the most terrifying, a very much 'in control' sense of laser beam focus. He has an incredible deadness behind the eyes. But I also find Cox's Lector terrifying in how he has that chatty, conversational facade, which seems very believable. Both Mads and Cox I feel are very believable in how they could kill dispassionately. After watching the two portrayals, it makes it harder to enjoy Hopkins, who hams it up, but he did also have some great bits of theatre in his delivery, I do actually enjoy his funny old accent. I also felt Mads' general accent and demeanour fitted best with Lector's backstory. Just a kind of numbness veiled over by layers of intellect and grafted over culture, burying brutal traumas from his youth.
    Funnily enough, I do actually think Hopkins might actually come the closest in presentation according to Harris' descriptions of his behaviour in Hannibal and SOTL. I remember reading about wiry strength - I feel like Hopkins comes across with a kind of tautness that fits the bill. I also recall a certain sense of whimsy in the way Hannibal talks - Hopkins speaks with more theatrical whimsy than Cox who talks with a bit more lively conversational patter and Mikkelson who talks with a constant sense of control.
    As for Will Graham, I found the actor in Lector, Hugh Dancey, absolutely incredible, I felt like I lived every second with him. That was stunning work. Especially given he is British so had to do an accent.

    • @yggdrasil2
      @yggdrasil2 3 місяці тому +2

      Definitely agree with you on Dancey. One look on his face in episode one and you know this guy has seen some shit.

    • @a.t.3192
      @a.t.3192 19 днів тому +2

      I definitely think Mads has by far the most imposing physicality. Those fight scenes feel so brutally efficient and terrifying.

  • @jasonc6812
    @jasonc6812 3 роки тому +79

    The fact that Cox partially based his portrayal on an actual serial killer makes his more realistic and frightening.

    • @JohnDoe-wb6vl
      @JohnDoe-wb6vl 3 роки тому +2

      Who did he base it on?

    • @jasonc6812
      @jasonc6812 3 роки тому +16

      @@JohnDoe-wb6vl Peter Manuel. He was a notorious Scottish killer from the late 50s.

    • @chrischung1973
      @chrischung1973 3 місяці тому

      Brian Cox.

  • @AnnaStavaleF
    @AnnaStavaleF 9 місяців тому +17

    Seeing them side by side like this, it's so obvious that Will (Hugh Dancy) and Hannibal's (Mads Mikkelsen) relationship is totally passionate and that the reunion is totally about them and not about the case. Will is so shaken he looks like he's going to cry and Hannibal is so in love. I love that. That's why it's very difficult to compare with the films, since in the films the relationship between the two is different. Comparing Red Dragon and Manhunter, Manhunter wins! It's amazing how well this movie ages, like wine, a classic! I really love how real Cox's Hannibal is!

  • @jimmy2k4o
    @jimmy2k4o 3 роки тому +59

    “Very interesting even to a layman”
    Was said by Jack Crawford in the first episode of Hannibal NBC.

  • @Blue-sf7xo
    @Blue-sf7xo Рік тому +47

    The thing is that the tv show is clearly ROMANTIC. The movies show their relationship really good, how they are each others mirror in a way. But in the show, Will understands not only Hannibal, but he understands HIMSELF when he is with Hannibal. That is romance. That's what so special about Mads Mikkelsens Hannibal. He was so damn in love with Will Graham

    • @Neiri-qg2wk
      @Neiri-qg2wk 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes, I jokingly call Mads "Rockstar Hannibal." He's the gothic, romantic Hannibal that attracted a female fanbase to the Hannibal franchise. And since they combined Will with Clarice (giving a slightly feminine angle), he became a character that female fans could also better relate to giving the series a "bad boy meets good girl" vibe.

  • @ProtonJimmy
    @ProtonJimmy 2 роки тому +75

    The more time passes the better Manhunter looks

    • @Neiri-qg2wk
      @Neiri-qg2wk 7 місяців тому +7

      It's fantastic. There's a practicality to the way it's shot and the depiction of the characters that I enjoy.

    • @patrickc3419
      @patrickc3419 4 місяці тому +2

      @@ProtonJimmy
      Great film. Michael Mann is a very talented director.

    • @nyodene
      @nyodene 3 місяці тому

      feels more relevant today in style and tone than Red Dragon

  • @koomo801
    @koomo801 День тому +1

    Every remake just reminds us of how brilliant Cox was in the role. I saw it opening weekend, barely anyone in the theater. The film finally got its due, and so did he. The Mann style and soundtrack didn't age well, but now it looks good again.

  • @jpsned
    @jpsned 3 роки тому +37

    "That's the same atrocious aftershave you wore in court." I've always remembered that line 😀

  • @lisa-el3db
    @lisa-el3db 3 роки тому +130

    Cox is by far the best. His phone call trying to get Will's address, still creepy as hell.

    • @jessebrucepinkman9834
      @jessebrucepinkman9834 3 роки тому +3

      Cox is overrated. He had less than 10 minutes of screen time and his version of Hannibal couldn’t even fight

    • @brettwilson359
      @brettwilson359 3 роки тому +11

      Mads is the best by FAR. Hopkins did what needed to be done to win an Oscar, and Cox is as good as can be expected in said film. I used to think Peterson was the best Graham until I saw the TV series...

    • @lyritormandl4245
      @lyritormandl4245 3 роки тому +11

      @@brettwilson359 Norton isn't brooding, there is no sense of anger or rage hiding within him. He isn't a good fit for the role of Graham.

    • @zufgh
      @zufgh Рік тому +9

      Cox is overrated huh. Well gotta say, that's a new one on me.

    • @iloveads123
      @iloveads123 9 місяців тому +2

      Cox is less calm and polite as Anthony and Mads
      He was born for roles of being a psychotic bully like Logan Roy

  • @sebart9321
    @sebart9321 3 роки тому +27

    Mikkelsen and Dancy. Them. Them!!!

  • @hi-xp9re
    @hi-xp9re Рік тому +7

    I didn’t come here to dunk on any of the actors but i want to point out how beautiful acting is as an art form. Each actor beautifully delivered in different ways, in order to convey what the scene needed.
    Cox was charming and dangerous, Hopkins was calculative and elegant and Mikkelsen was romantic and yearnful.

  • @robbie_o_coelho
    @robbie_o_coelho Рік тому +24

    I think what's so appealing about Mads is that the story literally paints him as the Devil on earth. Psychology hasn't yet discovered someone like him, he's pure evil. Which is why his relationship with Will is so important, Will has an empathy disorder unlike any other, he can see Hannibal for the Devil he really is. He is the only person Hannibal can be vulnerable around, which is why he got caught.

    • @flamzz3133
      @flamzz3133 Рік тому +3

      I think it's more so not that he just got caught, he LET himself get cought because of Wills rejection. He wanted Will to know where he is instead of running away and have Will not thinking about him and forgetting him.

  • @lonestar6709
    @lonestar6709 3 роки тому +70

    Why do I find Brian Cox's Lector the best?
    He's just scary, how nicely nominal he is. No histrionics, but controlled menace.
    Three great charismatic actors, but Brian Cox wins this round for me.

    • @FuckYouYouFuck
      @FuckYouYouFuck 3 роки тому +9

      He's real. He's charming, intelligent, dominating, and manipulative. You'd meet him, interact with him, and go away thinking he's a great guy.
      He doesn't come across as a creepy weirdo like the other two.
      Watching his scene and knowing what he is you realise if you spend time with him, if you talk to him, you are giving him more and more information he can use against you.

    • @champo976
      @champo976 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah my biggest gripe with the tv portrayal is that he's such a creepy weirdo the fbi should've instantly figured out hes the Chesapeake ripper

    • @downix
      @downix 5 місяців тому

      Cox also based his performance on a real serial killer as well, making his portrayal all the more chiĺling.

    • @zaja2418
      @zaja2418 5 місяців тому +4

      Cox feels like an actual real-life serial killer
      Hopkins feels like an android wearing a human skin.
      Mikkelsen feels like a supernatural creature pretending to be a man.

    • @osmanyousif7849
      @osmanyousif7849 5 місяців тому +1

      Would have love to see what he's have been like in Silence. Not that Hopkins was bad or anything....

  • @catherinegrimes2308
    @catherinegrimes2308 3 роки тому +27

    I prefer Brian Cox. To me he comes over as intelligent, manipulative and always in charge.

  • @Saga_Anserum
    @Saga_Anserum 3 роки тому +42

    I'm biased but I like Mads' Hannibal most. I can feel the reasoning and the attitude. That's not to say he's predictable, not at all. It just makes him feel more like a real person. And I think that what real people can do is much scarier than any "insane" person.
    also he carried the love interest, saddest backstory, comic relief, AND villain roles at the same time which is just straight-up impressive

  • @SW77-Fan
    @SW77-Fan 3 роки тому +40

    It's funny, seeing how each actor builds on and struggles against the source material. I think the "If this pilgrim imagines he has some relationship with the moon..." line probably has the biggest contrast in styles and performance.

    • @iamyoursaviour
      @iamyoursaviour 3 роки тому +5

      It felt so wrong with Mikkelsen's performance - his character had changed so much that his performance using those exact words no longer felt at all right. It felt awkward, not his usual self.

  • @esra00000
    @esra00000 3 роки тому +22

    9:56 "why don't you just smell yourself" OH BOY

  • @echovalentine6206
    @echovalentine6206 3 роки тому +52

    I really enjoyed the editing here. You did a wonderful job of comparison them and working with what was given. Thank you for your video.
    Personally I like all three adaptations in their various ways, just by watching this. There is so much that can be said in the same line.

  • @oneeyejack2
    @oneeyejack2 3 роки тому +104

    To me Mads is the best.. when you watch the series, you know the irony of him being friendly in a deeply sadistic way

    • @firstlast542
      @firstlast542 3 роки тому +5

      To you

    • @oneeyejack2
      @oneeyejack2 3 роки тому +5

      @@firstlast542 sorry I'm french, I mean according to me

    • @iloveads123
      @iloveads123 9 місяців тому

      Agree Mikkelsen is the best by far, perfect and milimetrical performance
      But Hopkins is so iconic and terryfing,defines the image that comes to my mind when I imagine some psychopath
      And Cox is great too,although he was born better for the role of Logan Roy's psychotic CEO

  • @TomPark1986
    @TomPark1986 3 роки тому +23

    06:33 .... the lighting makes him look super fucking evil here

    • @Neiri-qg2wk
      @Neiri-qg2wk 7 місяців тому

      Yeah, that lighting is crazy. It reminds me of the eyes in Skinamarink. IYKYK

  • @nerdydrawer7265
    @nerdydrawer7265 9 місяців тому +6

    It’s interesting how they’re all essentially saying the same lines, but they all have their own tone for it, giving a new impression with each

    • @Neiri-qg2wk
      @Neiri-qg2wk 7 місяців тому +2

      The motivations feel different. Hopkins' Lector feels angry at getting caught but also curious. Cox's Lecktor feels bitter and angry about being caught, his ego has been knocked down and every line is full of spite and malice. Mads' Lector allowed himself to be caught out of his love/obsession for Will so their interaction feels like ex-boyfriends who haven't seen each other for a while.

  • @adamsinclair1959
    @adamsinclair1959 3 роки тому +55

    I feel like Hopkins is generally the best Lecter, but in this scene, maybe the worst. A lot of it is probably down to the direction more than anything, but he doesn't feel quite as dangerous or unnerving as the other two. I feel like a lot of Hopkins' scenes in Red Dragon are trying to recapture the feel of his scenes in Silence of the Lambs, but it never quite works for me.
    Cox is just incredible in Manhunter, not as show-stealing as the other two perhaps, but he gets under your skin far more. I'd say he was perfect for the tone that particular film was going for.

    • @XxAegremxX
      @XxAegremxX 3 роки тому +5

      Your on point on this one. Luckily there are some redeeming factors in Red Dragon, but it feels like the movie was leaning on Anthony to sell tickets. The last 30 seconds of the scene are like nails on a chalk board. No subtlety in screaming out “WE’RE NOT SO DIFFERENT YOU AND I!!” The line with Hopkins that he can show him how to harness it. It so superficial and means nothing.
      At this point in the movie, Will has caught other psychos but one case he needed lector’s help. He’s already been there before. Will is already in his way to never dealing with this again; yet the Hopkins version ends the scene with a temptation that leads no where.
      Hopkins will be the best, but this scene only existed to do one thing. It’s almost like the scene was made just for trailer bites.

    • @ShadowSonic2
      @ShadowSonic2 2 роки тому

      @Greg Elchert Hopkins' heart has barely been in anything he's done for the last 20 years

    • @DCMarvel2009
      @DCMarvel2009 Рік тому

      I feel like Lecter in Red Dragon should've been less "gentleman criminal" and more "sadistic bully", considering he's talking with the guy who both consulted him on cases before AND was able to catch him (in a scene that Rasputin would probably blush at).
      The "gentleman criminal" approach worked for Lecter in Silence of the Lambs *in hindsight* considering he'd already taken care of Will and was dealing with Clarice Starling, but I felt he should've been more raw in his attitude in Red Dragon.

    • @panonymousbloom5405
      @panonymousbloom5405 Рік тому

      You know, I disagree. I think Hopkins is generally TOO menacing. I'm not sure if the intention was (as it was in the series) to depict him as a generally polite, charming individual but in hindsight, if that was the case, it failed for me. He puts it on so much it sounds condescending and incredibly rude, not to mention all time threatening. Imo, he sounds more like an average man trying to put on an act than a highly educated gentleman. Which, of course, genius if intentional.
      He works greatly as a movie villain. Not as a character.

  • @docholiday5119
    @docholiday5119 3 роки тому +47

    With Hopkins and mad, it's like they're trying to have the audience idolize his portrayal ..... But with Cox, it's more realistic which puts most people off.

  • @johnnyvillalobos8855
    @johnnyvillalobos8855 Рік тому +3

    3 great performances, each one iconic in its own way

  • @Dear1Stupit1Dog
    @Dear1Stupit1Dog 2 роки тому +10

    The one thing that Manhunter does what the other versions don't, is that Will and Lecter are pretty much in a duel. A battle in letting the other loose their cool and lash out, and ultimately Lector won in the end. Though, Will was able make Lector rather annoyed when he called him insane.
    Both reply fast to each others questions to determine they are in control with themselves and carry expressionless faces and speak with an emotionless tone. Will never taking his eyes of Lecter and trying not to stoop to his level by making harsh, off-topic questions, while Lecter tries to appear rational and professional, and not always go for an attack, even though he wants to. Pretty much a battle of minds.
    The other versions have all these long dramatic pauses, Will always turns his back on lecter when he shouldn't, and shivering (i think Norton shed a tear) and Lecter having a constant malice in his voice like he wants to tear him apart.
    Has good has the other versions are, this scene lack all intensity when compared to Manhunter.

  • @Chillton
    @Chillton 3 роки тому +21

    Love the different approaches and interpretations. As much fun Hopkins' Lecter is, he's pure opera, even camp at times, but it's just fun movie experience, actory actor acting. Great for the purpose of his movie. But that works only in a cage, it's hard to imagine him not being a suspect at any point. Cox on the other hand, has a presence and confidence of a coach, and manipulative tendencies of an intellectual bully. Since I watched Lambs before Manhunter I was so disappointed in NonHopkinsLecter, but nowadays I find Cox's rendition more unsettling and complex, despite minimal screen presence. I believe Cox's Lecter could convince someone to swallow their own tongue. I have no opinion on Mikkelsen though as I haven't watched the series.

    • @ProcrastinationHyperfocus
      @ProcrastinationHyperfocus 3 роки тому +7

      It's a great series, but it is even further towards going for 'unreality' than Hopkin's rendition was. Much of each episode is intensely dreamlike (more accurately, nightmarish)

    • @Auzzie015
      @Auzzie015 3 роки тому +5

      I disagree on the Hopkins point. When we see Lecter in his office with Will before he is caught, he is perfectly charming. His body language is very different, no one would suspect him. The unhinged true face of Lecter is only revealed once he is caught or behind bars.

  • @brave-antics7467
    @brave-antics7467 3 роки тому +30

    Mads mikkelsons is by far the most chillingly creepy but I’m not creeped out by any of these.

    • @MikeMarlowe-ym3zy
      @MikeMarlowe-ym3zy 8 місяців тому +2

      You’re really not creeped out by Cox? That’s wild, that whole scene with him makes my skin crawl

  • @hawkchalk
    @hawkchalk 2 роки тому +9

    Peterson is by far the best .

  • @lollmemmSm0keweed
    @lollmemmSm0keweed 3 роки тому +33

    William Peterson is so good. Makes Edward Norton look so booring.

    • @Zeikid
      @Zeikid 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah this was definitely not Edward at his best

    • @ecsix
      @ecsix 3 місяці тому

      Surprising actually, makes him look like an amateur.

  • @Neiri-qg2wk
    @Neiri-qg2wk 7 місяців тому +3

    For those who don't 2015 TV Hannibal combined Clarice and Will's characters so, their interactions have more sexual subtext than the other versions. They also cast very-attractive actors (also a deliberate choice) to appeal to female viewers. And there is no dialogue of Hannibal inquiring about Will catching him for the TV series because, in the series he deliberately turns himself in out of love for Will.

  • @joegideon8461
    @joegideon8461 3 роки тому +6

    A masterclass on acting and directing choices

  • @jleddy
    @jleddy 2 роки тому +12

    Thrilled to see so many think Cox portrayed the best Lector. I’ll die on that hill as well.

  • @Heckmann9
    @Heckmann9 3 роки тому +8

    three brilliant actors!

  • @grigoryopta
    @grigoryopta Рік тому +3

    they all did a very good job and wonderful portrayed character with their own twists
    for me, Hopkins is the best, just how actually terrifying and menacing his lecter is

  • @mim959
    @mim959 3 роки тому +7

    Brilliant video - really well put together. Cox was the first Lecter I saw and remained with me for years until Hopkins stepped in. I wouldn't like to compare them really, I thought they were both excellent and chilling - I think it may be harsh on Hopkins to use Red Dragon rather than Silence though as he's older and more aware of the effect of the role, whereas with Silence and Cox's Manhunter they don't really know what anyone will think, they're just being the role without taking into account public perception. What I noticed too though was that, despite being old and an occasionally clunky film due to that, William Peterson's Will Graham is far more nuanced and effective than some of the 80s vibe of the film and certainly stands alongside, if not eclipsing in many ways, Norton, who's let's face it, a damn fine actor too.

  • @b67a2011
    @b67a2011 3 роки тому +4

    OMG , I just finished all of them last night 😱
    Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @UncensoredScion
    @UncensoredScion 3 роки тому +4

    there's a lot of people here trying to be contrarian in their approach towards the acting.
    None of it is "bad" but there's little argument to be had on the best portrayal.
    5:25 is the point to reference.
    In each we have Lecter playing with Will, Will knows this and does the correct thing, "I'm not here to play, I'm here to work, if you're not going to work I'm done." which would end Lecter's fun and return him to boredom so he gets up and walks to leave.
    PART of the problem with Manhunter is the limited and isolated cell Lecter is in and it's a disservice to Cox as I think IF he'd had 2 more seconds of wait to say his lines he'd be in the same ballpark for Hopkins.
    But it's that raised voice and quick nature - after the calm and relaxed nature - that puts Hopkins over the others. He portrayed a man trying to play a game, failing and being frustrated at being "forced" to give in and do as asked.

  • @Z3AL316
    @Z3AL316 2 роки тому +6

    Cox is the best, I loved his Lector he absolutely killed it in the role, just as good as the great Hopkins, and honestly feels a bit more interesting then Hopkins dare I say

  • @HirilElfwraith
    @HirilElfwraith Рік тому +1

    It's interesting how different the show is from the two movies. You can tell that in the movies, the characters knew each other, but it's mostly adversarial - Hannibal trying to get under Will's skin for the crime of catching him, Will trying to get what he needs from Hannibal without giving too much away.
    Meanwhile the show has two and a half seasons of increasingly unhinged and increasingly homoerotically charged tension between Will and Hannibal. It's still essentially the same scene (Hannibal trying to get under Will's skin, Will trying to stay professional and not give much away) but the relationship as a whole is far more intimate than in any other adaption. As a result a lot of the lines are used elsewhere in the series (there are several cuts to different episodes or seasons, half of the aftershave conversation took place in s1) and several others simply don't make sense (in the show Will didn't catch Hannibal, Hannibal turned himself in, for various complicated and gay 5d chess reasons but mostly because will basically broke up with him).
    The show also shows Will and Hannibal sliding easily back into their old ways. The discussion about the red dragon is much more reciprocal than in the movies. They talk about the case the way they've talked about dozens before.
    These are all trying to accomplish different things, and it's interesting to compare them!

  • @andre1999o
    @andre1999o Рік тому +4

    I find it interesting that, when adapting Thomas Harris' work, screenwriters typically don't stray too far from the material, especially the dialogue. These scenes aren't just similar within each other, if you compare them to the book, they are almost one-for-one equal. The same is true of Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal and Hannibal Rising.

  • @theroboz
    @theroboz 3 роки тому +13

    Manhunter is a masterpiece. Red Dragon is Manhunter for the "DaVinci Code "crowd... So bad it makes 2 great actors look like amateurs.

  • @bizbite2
    @bizbite2 3 роки тому +13

    Tue cox portrayal is most terrifying... he is disarming and friendly and can reach you via the cell... it is like a tiger that is calm one moment and next moment is bitting your face off... :)

  • @AimRobot
    @AimRobot 3 роки тому +16

    bright vs medium vs dark rooms.

  • @missallsunday5417
    @missallsunday5417 3 роки тому +28

    Don't know why people hate to admit it but the 2015 Hannibal is superior: in direction, cinematography and acting. It's only fault is unfaithfulness to the source, which it betters upon. Just because, something is old, doesn't mean it's by mere association, good.
    Cox's Hannibal is casual but unable to evoke the fear and domination required by the role. Hopkins is just banal, he set a benchmark for portraying Lecter in "Silence of the Lambs", so I don't know what happened here.
    Also, the 2015 show is more directly focused on Will and Hannibal's relationship, so it makes sense to have demure yet intimate conversations between the two, without focusing much on the external elements in the scene.

    • @inr9751
      @inr9751 3 роки тому +16

      Brian Cox's Lecter is fascinating, imo. He doesn't try to charm you, he just *is.* Also you have to admire how unpretentious Manhunter looks in comparison to other versions.

    • @HushtheMag
      @HushtheMag 3 роки тому +7

      Superior to you. Just because something is new, does not make it better. The 2015 version looks like a pretentious student film and the guy playing Lecter doesn't speak clearly and looks more confused than intimidating or sinister. Manhunter looks like it's a documentary since the acting and setting just seem so natural, and Hopkins made Lecter his own.

    • @kangaroo9816
      @kangaroo9816 3 роки тому +6

      ​@@HushtheMag the 2015 version is basically a romcom

    • @flamzz3133
      @flamzz3133 Рік тому +5

      ​@@kangaroo9816I mean you ain't wrong it IS a romcom

    • @_chaos_307
      @_chaos_307 Рік тому

      ​@@HushtheMagThis comment made me giggle so much thank you

  • @Les-y7x
    @Les-y7x 2 дні тому

    All three actors are phenomenal at playing Lector. Each one brings there own style,but Cox's version is,in my opinion the best,especially since he had such little screen time. William Peterson is also great.

  • @jackchop1576
    @jackchop1576 Рік тому +3

    Brian Cox's Hannibal is less socially aloof than the others. He's much more seductive than the others are. His arrogance is more realistic. I like all of them though.

  • @melonpope666
    @melonpope666 4 місяці тому +1

    this is to me is like skibidi toilet to ipad babies thank you for making this

  • @yukie_tn
    @yukie_tn Рік тому +5

    Hopkins is my favorite Lecter, but you can really see how a good director made a difference in capturing performance. He was more or less the same as Silence in the Lambs but Johnathan Demme's camera work highlighted the creepiness and uneasiness masterfully vs. scenes that are pretty flat in Red Dragon.

    • @jamaali2358
      @jamaali2358 4 місяці тому +1

      In Red Dragon he comes across has hammy especially with the accent 😅

  • @aaronhaidle7130
    @aaronhaidle7130 3 роки тому +10

    I feel like Hannibal takes an insult to his intelligence very seriously. First, he doesn't want to accept he was caught by an average "layman." Secondly, he does not like feeling accused of being less intelligent than anyone, which he interprets as Will "implicating" through his comment about a challenge.

    • @katz6245
      @katz6245 3 роки тому

      Hmmm my take on it is he believe will is something more than a layman will keeps making excuses how he caught him like saying he was insane or he got lucky, but Hanibal knows really well that Will was a smart and a visionary guy just like him he wants will to gain confidence cause he showed so little when he said he is a layman and that insults lecter cause he knows will is more than that and ofc he wont accept it that a layman caught him he is pretty much happy to admit that will is smarter than him

  • @kristophercrane
    @kristophercrane 3 роки тому +4

    Dude. this is intense. good fucking job.

  • @tjfSIM
    @tjfSIM 3 місяці тому

    Manhunter still clinches it I think. I think Mann's use of clinical white gives the scene a gravity and focus that the others lack. And Petersen's portrayal of Will Graham is by far the most natural and relatable for me. I'm not at all convinced by his equivalent in Red Dragon. I do like Anthony Hopkins portrayal of Lecter though.

  • @goodstuff8156
    @goodstuff8156 Рік тому

    This scene is one of the best Hopkins Hannibal scene, something about the way he delivers the lines and the dialogue is really good, but all three are good, especially the manhunter one with Cox.

  • @ben6993
    @ben6993 Місяць тому

    One thing about Hopkins performance is that some people say it’s slightly too exaggerated. Well, my take on it, is he’s no longer pretending. He’s in prison, he’s been caught, he doesn’t have to keep up a facade anymore, so he’s more free to be who he actually is.

  • @daneflannery
    @daneflannery 6 днів тому +1

    Brian Cox does it best. A monster is not demonstrative; he wears a human guise.

  • @homelessjesse9453
    @homelessjesse9453 Рік тому +1

    Manhunter is by far the best. Brian Cox is just so unassuming as Hannibal Lector. You could believe he commited his crimes by his officious personality.

  • @JohnBlatt71
    @JohnBlatt71 3 роки тому +25

    Manhunter is best by FAR.

  • @relin6770
    @relin6770 3 роки тому +24

    Manhunter is the best

    • @emor6100
      @emor6100 3 роки тому +11

      By far. Definitely the best Will and Hannibal.

  • @nathanpeoples2319
    @nathanpeoples2319 2 роки тому +13

    Anthony Hopkins will always be my favorite as Lecter. But all 3 interpretations are great in their own movies/show.
    But William Peterson was the best Will Graham out of the 3 actors in my opinion. He looked like he was struggling with his own sanity without overdoing it like they did in the series

    • @erithrone
      @erithrone 2 роки тому +4

      ??? Did you watch the whole show? There is no QUESTION about who the best Will Graham is lol. Hugh Dancy is AMAZING, especially his character development.

    • @nathanpeoples2319
      @nathanpeoples2319 2 роки тому +2

      @nikita I didn't care for Hugh Dancy's performance personally. I really liked the show though

    • @CCSABCD
      @CCSABCD Рік тому +2

      @@erithrone The TV show was definitely over the top with Wills insanity, way more cartoonish, still interesting, but i do think Mads saved that show

  • @henrykberonio9008
    @henrykberonio9008 3 роки тому +9

    Anthony Hopkins is very scary as hannibal lecter

  • @Auzzie015
    @Auzzie015 3 роки тому +10

    I still think Anthony Hopkins did it best. The way he speaks and puts emphasis on certain words, his unsettling movements and intensity perfectly capture the character of Lecter. Cox's interpretation is more realistic I guess, he seems like someone who could exist, but for a character as depraved as Lecter, I think Hopkins is unmatched.

  • @squamish4244
    @squamish4244 Рік тому +1

    Grrr the "You're insane" line is missing from Hannibal (2015). It's the best line!

  • @emor6100
    @emor6100 3 роки тому +16

    I think Manhunter is the best. They're all good, but the original is the best depiction imo

  • @snakey934Snakeybakey
    @snakey934Snakeybakey 2 місяці тому +1

    Both Hopkins and Cox's lecter are great in their own unique ways. Cox's is more realistic, Hopkins' is scarier. but what we are missing is a Hannibal lecter with his Lithuanian accent, and six fingers on one hand.

  • @goodjobspyda5953
    @goodjobspyda5953 3 роки тому +21

    It's Hopkins all day. It's the eyes 👀that set him apart

  • @jonthulhu
    @jonthulhu 3 роки тому +5

    1:40 I don’t remember this part being included in the movie, was that deleted?

    • @ShadowSonic2
      @ShadowSonic2 3 роки тому

      It was, if you look at the picture quality it's clearly a deleted scene.

  • @dravendfr
    @dravendfr Місяць тому

    All are fantastic. I wish we got more portrayals for Brain as Hannibal.

  • @stevejohn1843
    @stevejohn1843 3 роки тому +6

    hopkins stole this , he oozes the intimidation plus shock value. no other came close. He is the ultimate pained brilliant psychopath

  • @paulseaman4019
    @paulseaman4019 2 місяці тому +1

    Brian Cox and Bill Peterson are the best.

  • @Donttredonme86
    @Donttredonme86 2 роки тому +4

    I prefer the pacing of the Hopkins scene vastly more than the others

  • @franzhaas5597
    @franzhaas5597 3 роки тому +1

    Well done that must have taken a lot of work.

  • @mrsinatra9410
    @mrsinatra9410 Рік тому +21

    Everyone talking about who played lector the best, but no one talks about about Edward nortons performance as Will. Phenomenal

    • @Secondplanetfromthesun
      @Secondplanetfromthesun Рік тому +6

      I thought it was meh, I think Manhunter portrayed Will much more accurately. Something about him seems, unhinged

    • @arktomorphos
      @arktomorphos Рік тому

      Are you kidding? He's awful. Like he overdosed on Valium

    • @mialia15104
      @mialia15104 Рік тому +5

      all will's fade in comparison to Hugh Dancy. I thought Norton's version was extremely average and forgettable.

    • @Secondplanetfromthesun
      @Secondplanetfromthesun Рік тому

      @@mialia15104 I haven't seen Hannibal but it's really better than Manhunter cuz that's a bold statement.

    • @Neiri-qg2wk
      @Neiri-qg2wk 7 місяців тому

      The only Will for me is Manhunter. Norton's Will was meh and Hugh Dancy's Will is combined with Clarice so he's basically a female character in a man's body and not really "Will."

  • @rigelorion890
    @rigelorion890 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the spoiler alert for the serves

  • @claralevesque6291
    @claralevesque6291 3 роки тому +27

    Hannibal (2015) is the best one!

    • @epicman1947
      @epicman1947 3 роки тому +6

      no its really not

    • @claralevesque6291
      @claralevesque6291 3 роки тому +8

      @@epicman1947 your opinion, although a bad one 😉

    • @epicman1947
      @epicman1947 3 роки тому +3

      @@claralevesque6291 true, though a popular one but i think they’re all pretty good

    • @claralevesque6291
      @claralevesque6291 3 роки тому +6

      @@epicman1947 I definitely think they are all great but the 2015 TV show had amazing cinematography. You should watch it if you haven't yet

    • @epicman1947
      @epicman1947 3 роки тому +1

      @@claralevesque6291 yeah i should

  • @kriegsmaschine4050
    @kriegsmaschine4050 Рік тому +1

    Mikkelsen's Hannibal is almost completely otherworldly, more a devil than a human being.
    Hopkins's Hannibal is some kind of count Dracula type supervillain. He has the mystique of Mikkelsen, but he is also more easily tricked, not that it happens often.
    Cox's Hannibal, oddly, frightens me the most. He is Hannibal stripped of all mystery, revealed for what he really is - just a man. An extremely unusual and intelligent psychopath, but a human being nonetheless. The other two Hannibals are scary in their own way, but Cox's Hannibal is the one most plausible to exist today. Stay safe, everyone

  • @tardersauce3578
    @tardersauce3578 3 роки тому +11

    Weirdly unpopular, but I like Hopkins and Norton the best in this scene

  • @Strawbs86.
    @Strawbs86. 3 місяці тому

    Brian Cox the original and the best Hopkins is a caricature Cox underplays it so well he’s the most believable and scariest because he seems much mor3 normal and menacing at the same time.

  • @E-eb6ic
    @E-eb6ic 2 роки тому +1

    I will say, I really like how the show treats it like they know each other because…they do. Like, that’s the whole point, they were friends on the investigation squad. However, I like how creepy Hopkins goes. But that’s not an objectively superior quality

  • @manontherails4937
    @manontherails4937 3 роки тому +11

    Manhunter is a classic - I loved Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs, but MH is the best of the best. Original art that cannot be copied no matter how hard someone tries to duplicate or parrot it.

  • @drewhammond5203
    @drewhammond5203 8 місяців тому +3

    Regardless of who is the best Hannibal,
    We can all agree that poor Ed Norton is the WORST Will Graham. Dude's an incredible actor but his performance is good in the worst possible way. It's clear that he's.. acting. Hugh Dancy is my pick for the best performance of Will but that's very contingent on the perspective of the writing, which does a lot for his characterization out the gate. Dancy just steps into the role. However, I love the confidence and the underlying nervousness that William Peterson gives his will. The way he's filmed makes him look like the physically largest of the actors to play Will and it shows that he can produce an air of physical superiority that the other two actors can't, or won't. Dancy could be quite imposing because of his broad shoulders and big chest but his acting is very honest and it's clear that his Will isn't even hiding how uncomfortable he is, only attempting to hide his anxiety even though it's futile, as this Hannibal knows him too well at this point.
    Norton just talks, with a spatty, chalky tone of voice that just screams "I am acting". Maybe it's a more subtle performance, but I still think Peterson takes the cake for subtlety. The whole conversation between him and Cox's Lecktor is leaving so much obscured while seemingly putting much on the table. Between Mads and Dancy, the table is not there, and what they said is hidden in the air around them because of their connection. Betwen Hopkins and Norton, they are two men on a soundstage who have simply turned in better performances being directed by an accused sex predator.
    Ironic.

    • @Neiri-qg2wk
      @Neiri-qg2wk 7 місяців тому +1

      Norton looks like he's about to fall asleep at any minute. I like Dancy's Will as A CHARACTER but, since Will and Clarice were combined, he seems like a very feminine character.

  • @enriquesinghjr
    @enriquesinghjr 2 місяці тому

    I see 6 extremely talented actors... but Hopkins is a GOAT.

  • @mobiz711
    @mobiz711 3 роки тому +29

    Why does Lecter get such a nice prison cell in the series? Did he work out some sort of deal?

    • @yuriaraujo1142
      @yuriaraujo1142 3 роки тому +16

      I think its because he helped Will to get a murderer early on, like some sort of reward or deal for cooperating with him

    • @joellekenyon6258
      @joellekenyon6258 3 роки тому +27

      Actually yeah that's exactly what happened. Series Will Graham sort of takes on the role of Clarice, and so the two of them are stranded together at Muskrat farm. Alana Bloom (Counterpart to Alan Bloom's character) who plans on murdering Mason Verger frees Hannibal on the condition that he take the fall for the murder. So when he's in her hospital, she gives him special treatment so that he doesn't expose her murder ua-cam.com/video/o6EbiOl4qP0/v-deo.html

    • @xAnescox
      @xAnescox 3 роки тому

      yes.

    • @FatTibbySuccubus
      @FatTibbySuccubus 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, with Alana

    • @E-eb6ic
      @E-eb6ic 2 роки тому

      @@joellekenyon6258 wait….wth is this show? Sorry, I’m very familiar with the books and movies and…Did they like, is it a reimagining over an extension of the story??? I assumed is was just a prequel to Red Dragon

  • @Samsgarden
    @Samsgarden Місяць тому

    That actor from CSI virtually disappeared.

  • @Nymerya91
    @Nymerya91 2 роки тому +7

    Mads is the best, I'm sorry but he is

  • @christophersantana5895
    @christophersantana5895 3 роки тому +13

    ANTHONY HOPKINS IS THE BEST HANNIBAL LECTER. SO IS BRIAN COX.

  • @martinlong4891
    @martinlong4891 3 роки тому +4

    Brian Cox, superb. Charming, aggressive and persuasive all at the same time.
    Hopkins, camping it up like he's playing a dame in panto.
    Mads M, somewhere in between.
    Dame Anthony Hopkins might as well have painted "Psycho" on his forehead, his portrayal lacked any subtlety. Mads was tied into a series where they made the unfortunate choice of making Lector the centre of attention rather than the FBI agent.
    Cox not only was the coldest and most natural portrayal, he also has the benefit of acting across from William P., an excellent actor.
    Manhunter may have strayed from the books, but it was the least cartoonish in its depictions of Lector and Graham.

  • @thedumbguncollector5546
    @thedumbguncollector5546 3 місяці тому +1

    Cox is the best by far. Feels like an actual crazy person. Madds and Hopkins seem more supernatural/theatrical

  • @jetspalt9550
    @jetspalt9550 3 місяці тому

    This missed Cox’s early line when he asks “how is the detective that found my basement? Emotional problems i hear?”
    Said in a quick off the cuff way but when you take in what he said its chilling how un ashamed and emotionless the tone is

  • @FortunateJuice
    @FortunateJuice 3 роки тому +2

    I can't watch Bill Peterson without thinking of Gil Grissom.

  • @davsny5
    @davsny5 Місяць тому

    The scariest thing is that Hopkins looks like me late grandfather.

  • @MidnightKingL
    @MidnightKingL 3 роки тому +16

    Probably not a popular opinion but I think Hopkins is the weakest.
    THAT being said they're all top notch.

    • @carlosdanger127
      @carlosdanger127 3 роки тому +10

      I think Hopkins performance in Red Dragon is significantly worse than his performance in Silence of the Lambs

    • @ShadowSonic2
      @ShadowSonic2 3 роки тому +6

      @@carlosdanger127 He was phoning it in by then. But then again, he was phoning in a lot of his performances starting around 2000.

  • @psychotictactoe
    @psychotictactoe Рік тому +1

    Manhunter is the best by a mile.