According to many sources, blast effect of the explosion decreases proportionally to the cube of distance. So increasing yield 8 times will only increase damage radius 2 times. With 6400kg vs 5000kg you only get 1.085767047 times increase in radius; 105m*1.085767047 is 114m, math checks out
@@chfire2004 Yeah, I was trying to have fun doing some high-altitude Pe-8 bombing. Map was Normandy, dropped on B from like 4500m. When I dropped, there were 4 enemies on B. In an unlikely turn of events, my team expertly killed all 4, and moved on to the cap in the 20 seconds it took for the bomb to fall. I watched in horror as I vaporized 5 of my own. lol
@@marshaldowns8957 He 111 with the 3000 for me, i dropped a bomb at an enemy cap that had some enemies, i was flying high and with a bit of a fuse so when the bomb actually got there my team had overrun it and i instantly got booted for 5 tks.... never have i experienced a more horrifying mistake.
Especially when you tell your team that you are going to drop it on said locationand they just drive there the second u released the bomb... Nut hey a 6 enemy kill was still nice
For anyone watching thats going to play this you need to release slightly before your target, as currently bomb always hits the back of the bomb bay when its released and gets nudged forward a decent amount.
I believe the reason the explosion destruction radius is only a little bigger even though it has so much more explosive material is a result of the inverse square law
Grand Slam and FAB-5000 were also designed against different targets. Grand Slam was designed to penetrate concrete bunkers and to destroy them from inside and FAB was designed to detonate laterally to cause maximum damage on surface against industrial targets.
@@L4v3 And this isn't the Grand Slam. It's the Blockbuster. You're mostly right about what the Grand Slam was used for, but the Blockbuster was designed to explode on the surface, and is about half as heavy as the Grand Slam. The Grand Slam was designed to compromise underground structures like bunkers without a direct hit via tremors. It would penetrate deep into the ground and explode, and the resulting "earthquake" would collapse the underground bunker.
I had 2 TK's last night in my lancaster. I put in chat that I was bombing B and then said when bomb was out. 2 idiot teammates rushed the cap after bomb was out. Needless to say back to the hanger I went.
Since it's exploding into a volume, the radius of destruction increases with the cube root of the TNT. So 8kg has only 2x the radius of 2kg TNT. In this case we have cuberoot(6350/5000)*104m = 114m so gaijin is right on the money. It is however worth bearing in mind that the area encompassed increases with the square of the radius. So you get an 8.3% increase in radius, but a 17.3% increase in area of effect. Also you can take two lancasters if you really want so thats nice.
The bomb may only have an ~8.5% larger destruction radius, but on a 2D plane that's an ~18% larger area, and a 3D sphere's volume would be 28% larger, which matches decently with it having 26% more TNT equivalent
Fun fact, the cookie bomb and the 12'000 are the same serie, being the Blockbuster. There's three model, the 4k, 8k and the 12k. But the lancaster even carried a 20k earthquake bomb called "Grand Slam"
Hey PHLY, when you doin’ another phabulous game with Benny and Odd? Miss those pherocious battles and phunny commentaries. If you can phind the time that would be phantastic! Pharewell!😂
The two vehicles I've been hoping they add to the Warthunder is the Churchill AVRE with its 230mm spigot mortar and the Lancaster B.2 Special with the Grand Slam Bomb(22,000lb) which sits underneath it like it's some kinda quad prop dive bomber.
To be fair, at that size, a few meters make a big difference is area affected. From those 9 extra meters you go from 8560 square meters to 10207 square meters of blasted area or a 20% increase in area effect. The TNT equivalent goes up by 26% from 5041 kg to 6357 kg so it's not that out of line.
Haha Phly, you made the best laugh of my last two weeks with that last drop. Love you and your content, nuking friends and enemies is way more entertaining anyway !
There are better but Phly is still popular for a reason. Checkout Bruce Leeroy for the absolute best helicopter antics in WT, he plays with full controls in VR and just does stuff impossible for anyone with M&KB. He should be flying christmas trees or filming an 80s action movie.
The Blockbuster was THREE 4,000lb bombs bolted together. little known fact was they previously had a smaller version that was 8,000 lbs made of two 4,000lb bombs bolted together
They also tried 4 bolted together. 2 8,000lbs strapped together. There’s a crater in The new forest from the testing. It was hugely innacurage and missed its mark by over a kilometer
i'm pretty sure other already said that, but the radius increase is in fact quite huge. it' seems to not be big but the surface covered is way bigger (square law) it's basic math : 105m radius cover a surface of 34636m². 114m radius cover a surface of 40828m². So it's a 17% increase of the obliterated surface. ^^ pretty good for a 26% increase of explosive mass.
According to Canadian Aviation Heritage, where one of the last 2 remain Lancaster located at. (Hamilton, ON). The 12000lb bomb was originally designed to bomb and break German’s Hydroelectric Damp. The tatic is to fly the Lancaster low and gliding just a few 10-20 meter above the sea surface then drop the bomb at approx 50-70 meter away before the damp. The bomb skips itselft to the damp and explode. That why the bomd was designed cylindrical rounded and not so aerodynamic unlike conventional bomb. I had a chance to walk underneath the plane and she was marvellous.
Another favorite! The ending was... too short. I really dig it when your true talents show through. And be a Dad, talkin' 'bout mad dad skills there professor.
just FYI, that extra nine meters of death radius over the PE-8, is almost exactly 18% more area. So it's 26% more TNT equivalent and 18% more area of death to armored vehicles.
Can't wait for thermobaric bombs to be added, those will be absurd. Also: Day 2 (Missed a day): Hello Phly, I challenge you to get 4 kills in the Mi-4AV. Must be in a single flight. Good luck Soldier, may insanity take us all.
Taking into account that the blast has a spherical form. The volume of a sphere with a radius of 114m is ~27% bigger than the volume of a sphere with a radius of 105m. If you divide the mass of the bombs: 6350kg/5000kg you get that the new bomb has 27% more mass than the old one. So it seems to be right
I'm so happy they added this bomb and gave the Lancaster the proper respect it deserves. I live a short distance away from where one of the two remaining flying Lancasters is based, and the sound of those engines fills me with joy.
HOME TOWN BABY!!! build right here Windsor Ontario Canada!! sad story time, the one we had in Jackson park went for refurbishment to be airworthy only to have all the rivets screwed up and destroy any chance of it flying again without a few million bucks. 4 beautiful engines sitting right there fully refurbished. I delivered the parts myself.
the IS-2's 122mm HE round could crack the armor of the front plate of the panther in cold conditions. Gaijin's HE damage numbers aren't totally realistic since they don't factor in material integrity, (or simulate any kind of armor cracking) but the line needed drawing somewhere! For those that don't understand what I mean by material integrity and armor cracking, you can get through a thick armor plate even with a weak gun if you just smack it over and over in the same spot. This doesn't cause a clean penetration. Instead, the armor eventually gives up and cracks into a bunch of pieces. This tends to also have the unfortunate effect of pulverizing the crew inside :(
The fact you can bring out that half nuke with only 1 kill and 1 assist is insane. Also lancasters were known to be horribly inaccurate, yet the bomb goes to the pixel where the bomb sight is showing. Theyve got to up the spawn cost and decrease the bomb accurancy or theres no point playing any match with the british in it
In the intro briefing: I think the word you wanted was "modular", not "cookie" (or even "cookie cutter"). Ex: LEGO are modular bricks, that you can combine to make something bigger.
Hey Phly, if they're considering adding in a bomb of this size for the Bri'ish, do you think they might ever add the b36 peacemaker and its t12 earthquake bombs?
with quick maffs, the area m^2 of the 12k bomb is 40828.14m^2, while the 5k bomb is 34636.06m^2, so you get an extra 6192.08m^2 of killing area, thats like almost 18% larger
another way you could look at it is essentially if it has x amount of tnt power, the bomb is capable of affecting the same amount that that amount of tnt would, except how efficient is it at destroying whatever it is you want gone. that’s the way i look at bomb weight
UA-cam ads got me as hard as phly got his allies on the last run, a 15 sec unskipeable ad just perfect placement between the bomb landing and the explotion, 3 times on the vid
According to many sources, blast effect of the explosion decreases proportionally to the cube of distance. So increasing yield 8 times will only increase damage radius 2 times. With 6400kg vs 5000kg you only get 1.085767047 times increase in radius; 105m*1.085767047 is 114m, math checks out
does the inverse check out for the 4,000lb bomb only being 40m?
can you share the formula or the math, i am curious about it.
It's 4000 kg effective tnt vs 5200 kg I think actually. The 12k bomb has a much higher explosive vs total weight ratio compared to other bombs.
@@pierluigiadreani2159 its radius*radius*radius , but actually you should half that because its only half a sphere.
also type of combustable is very important
That sinking/silent feeling when you accidently wipe out a group of team-mates, and the game throws you to the lobby to think about your actions.
The blast radius might not be much bigger, but I'm betting the concussive force and lethality in that blast is way higher than the Pe-8 5000lb.
@@Fiasco3 Well yes that's why the blast radius is larger
I just switch country and start another match lol
The lancaster is basically the ww2 A-10 XD
Dont worry killing team mates are friendly kills
Best. Episode. Ever.
I'm glad I'm not the only guy who's been booted from a game because of a misplaced enormous bomb.
There was an enemy marker right in a Group of allies and i thought they are enemies and bomb em
I had this happen with the most unlucky artillery strike, killed 3 guys at once on my own team.
@@chfire2004 Yeah, I was trying to have fun doing some high-altitude Pe-8 bombing. Map was Normandy, dropped on B from like 4500m. When I dropped, there were 4 enemies on B. In an unlikely turn of events, my team expertly killed all 4, and moved on to the cap in the 20 seconds it took for the bomb to fall. I watched in horror as I vaporized 5 of my own. lol
@@marshaldowns8957 He 111 with the 3000 for me, i dropped a bomb at an enemy cap that had some enemies, i was flying high and with a bit of a fuse so when the bomb actually got there my team had overrun it and i instantly got booted for 5 tks.... never have i experienced a more horrifying mistake.
Especially when you tell your team that you are going to drop it on said locationand they just drive there the second u released the bomb... Nut hey a 6 enemy kill was still nice
For anyone watching thats going to play this you need to release slightly before your target, as currently bomb always hits the back of the bomb bay when its released and gets nudged forward a decent amount.
Or, in this case, hits the TOP of your aircraft and gets nudged UPWARD a decent amount.
i need to hit it with my article of the plane itself because i dive when i spawn, so it drop way before otherwise
I believe the reason the explosion destruction radius is only a little bigger even though it has so much more explosive material is a result of the inverse square law
TNT equivalent
cubed*
it's a volume, not an area
Grand Slam and FAB-5000 were also designed against different targets. Grand Slam was designed to penetrate concrete bunkers and to destroy them from inside and FAB was designed to detonate laterally to cause maximum damage on surface against industrial targets.
this is why nobody makes huge nukes nowadays. All energy goes to space
@@L4v3 And this isn't the Grand Slam. It's the Blockbuster. You're mostly right about what the Grand Slam was used for, but the Blockbuster was designed to explode on the surface, and is about half as heavy as the Grand Slam. The Grand Slam was designed to compromise underground structures like bunkers without a direct hit via tremors. It would penetrate deep into the ground and explode, and the resulting "earthquake" would collapse the underground bunker.
It’s already happened to me where the Lancaster bombed an objective and hit absolutely zero enemies and direct impacted me in my Churchill 7
Theres no way that wasn't intentional lmfao
That Lancaster had it out for your Churchill
I had 2 TK's last night in my lancaster. I put in chat that I was bombing B and then said when bomb was out. 2 idiot teammates rushed the cap after bomb was out. Needless to say back to the hanger I went.
@@duncanmcgee13 must’ve been yeah, idk how else that happens
Since it's exploding into a volume, the radius of destruction increases with the cube root of the TNT. So 8kg has only 2x the radius of 2kg TNT. In this case we have cuberoot(6350/5000)*104m = 114m so gaijin is right on the money.
It is however worth bearing in mind that the area encompassed increases with the square of the radius. So you get an 8.3% increase in radius, but a 17.3% increase in area of effect.
Also you can take two lancasters if you really want so thats nice.
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Its the inverse square law
edit : Cube in this case because its expanding in 3 dimensions
What about 22000 lbs grand slam bomb?
Me waiting for the devs to add the 22.000lb grand slam
it has less explosives than the 12000lbs we have now
or nukes to the b29...
@@IronPhysik but further it is a penetrator bomb.
@@emmata98 false, grand slam has only 5000kg of explosives
the remaining 6000kg of its weight is concrete and steel to make it penetrate.
@@IronPhysik wrong wording.
Like I wrote it is a penetrator bomb, so would do more damage in other ways
The bomb may only have an ~8.5% larger destruction radius, but on a 2D plane that's an ~18% larger area, and a 3D sphere's volume would be 28% larger, which matches decently with it having 26% more TNT equivalent
Fun fact, the cookie bomb and the 12'000 are the same serie, being the Blockbuster. There's three model, the 4k, 8k and the 12k. But the lancaster even carried a 20k earthquake bomb called "Grand Slam"
Hey PHLY, when you doin’ another phabulous game with Benny and Odd? Miss those pherocious battles and phunny commentaries. If you can phind the time that would be phantastic!
Pharewell!😂
That would be phecking awesome
wow very phunny
Bennie is annoying yo. Odd is cool to hear. but plz mute Bennie if yall play
Imagine, 3 of this bombs dropped at the same time
@@junkjunk5702 Hard disagree
PhlyDaily: [worried about danger close at 8:05]
Call of Duty: "Since when does Shepherd care about danger close?"
I love listening to Phly trying to make sense of the blast radius in this game. Napalm is in the game.. remember
Phly screaming “ you’re dead” took me back to the sound patch
that ending of the video was something else, he literally bombed the game away :)
great vid!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i always forget you can land on those carriers. and he did it twice in one game with a lancaster. props phly
The two vehicles I've been hoping they add to the Warthunder is the Churchill AVRE with its 230mm spigot mortar and the Lancaster B.2 Special with the Grand Slam Bomb(22,000lb) which sits underneath it like it's some kinda quad prop dive bomber.
The 230mm mortar has a max range of 200 meters
@@biomike01 still funny
@@retrorepairman is right it's hilarious
Day 339: play the rbt-5 at top tier
GET THIS MAN HIS RBT
I did it at 10.0 and killed an LVT from my spawn to the cap on Korea 💀
At the one year mark would be perfect lol
Let’s goooo !!!
Another hero
0:16 - 7 frags instantly - nice mate :) !!! Have a grate day !
pov: u just unlocked the pe8 and see this. my grind thru the painstaking grind in soviet techtree for nothing
the pe-8 is still perfect, i think its still better
wdym, theyre like the same br and same explosive mass/radius
@@jasperhunter8386 the pe8 bomb is 1k less
Pe-8 has better defense and I'm gonna assume better handling/damage resistance, its actually crazy
@@ruub9971 Also lower BR !
To be fair, at that size, a few meters make a big difference is area affected. From those 9 extra meters you go from 8560 square meters to 10207 square meters of blasted area or a 20% increase in area effect. The TNT equivalent goes up by 26% from 5041 kg to 6357 kg so it's not that out of line.
Haha Phly, you made the best laugh of my last two weeks with that last drop. Love you and your content, nuking friends and enemies is way more entertaining anyway !
You are by far the best player I have seen play this game, Phly. I've been watching you since you started, and it's usually entertaining and funny!
Well check your eyes then
@@ah-64apache92 found the sourpuss who cant see others take compliments
There are better but Phly is still popular for a reason. Checkout Bruce Leeroy for the absolute best helicopter antics in WT, he plays with full controls in VR and just does stuff impossible for anyone with M&KB. He should be flying christmas trees or filming an 80s action movie.
BEST CHOPPER HSHSHSHSGDSHHAHS💀💀💀
@@mankihonda983 THX for plug
That Normandy battle was something else! WELL DONE Phly 👏
The Blockbuster was THREE 4,000lb bombs bolted together.
little known fact was they previously had a smaller version that was 8,000 lbs made of two 4,000lb bombs bolted together
They also tried 4 bolted together. 2 8,000lbs strapped together. There’s a crater in The new forest from the testing.
It was hugely innacurage and missed its mark by over a kilometer
Just towards the beginning where ya go: “ I think we should get a proper..ooohhh noo.. “ 😂😂😂😂😂
Im LOVING these frequent uploads phly!! :D
2 carrier landings in one video is the most impressive part.
Dude I'm so glad you're back in a regular basis
You just dropped your gigantic load and couldn 't help that you plugged the porcelain church...
He had way too much fun actually carrying the game on that first game play!
Yeah, how bad those teamates was so he had to wipe 9 enemies and they still barely win.
i'm pretty sure other already said that, but the radius increase is in fact quite huge. it' seems to not be big but the surface covered is way bigger (square law)
it's basic math :
105m radius cover a surface of 34636m².
114m radius cover a surface of 40828m².
So it's a 17% increase of the obliterated surface. ^^ pretty good for a 26% increase of explosive mass.
He's leisurely flying that monster slowly above the battlefield while if I get out a bomber I usually get shot down before reaching the battlefield
I've seen a Lancaster irl, it was absolutely massive, and it was hanging directly over a submarine which it was bigger than.
Favorite part was the carrier landing in the beginning 😂
2 carrier landing. I mean, its practicly game exploit for heavy bomber!
What the hellll XD
Love that you’re adding memes to your videos add more please it makes it funnier 😂
This just proves. The noskilled tanker has to grab a plane to get tank kills.
According to Canadian Aviation Heritage, where one of the last 2 remain Lancaster located at. (Hamilton, ON). The 12000lb bomb was originally designed to bomb and break German’s Hydroelectric Damp. The tatic is to fly the Lancaster low and gliding just a few 10-20 meter above the sea surface then drop the bomb at approx 50-70 meter away before the damp. The bomb skips itselft to the damp and explode. That why the bomd was designed cylindrical rounded and not so aerodynamic unlike conventional bomb.
I had a chance to walk underneath the plane and she was marvellous.
I watched a video about this bomb earlier today and my first thought was 'I can't wait to see Phly's video on this'
That photo-finish triple kill/triple FF at the end is what war thunder is all about!
This is the bomb that I would put a 5 second delay on just to troll people by dropping it on their nose.
17:13 you can see right HERE - the range and power of that monster
Another favorite! The ending was... too short. I really dig it when your true talents show through. And be a Dad, talkin' 'bout mad dad skills there professor.
17:41 Phly bravo'ing and thanking himself. Lol
Imagine having a bomb so big you don’t have to worry about missing the enemy and have to worry about friendly fire😅
~@7:50 insert obligatory: _"W... What was that? Was that the primary buffer panel?? Did the Primary Buffer Panel just fall off my gorram ship?!?"_
That last drop made me laugh my ass off :D :D :D Thanks Phly youre the best
bro "Bravo-ed" to himself and then said thank you XDD
just FYI, that extra nine meters of death radius over the PE-8, is almost exactly 18% more area. So it's 26% more TNT equivalent and 18% more area of death to armored vehicles.
The three men on the carrier are at turrent point
4:43 Bombing run begins
20:24 that bomb literally hit your plane!😂
Can't wait for thermobaric bombs to be added, those will be absurd.
Also:
Day 2 (Missed a day): Hello Phly, I challenge you to get 4 kills in the Mi-4AV. Must be in a single flight. Good luck Soldier, may insanity take us all.
Taking into account that the blast has a spherical form. The volume of a sphere with a radius of 114m is ~27% bigger than the volume of a sphere with a radius of 105m. If you divide the mass of the bombs: 6350kg/5000kg you get that the new bomb has 27% more mass than the old one. So it seems to be right
The crew of that carrier: "The hell is this idiot doing?! CLEAR THE DECK!"
🤣🤣🤣
0:40 insert "Oh great heavens" meme
Now we need the C-130 with Daisy Cutters and MOABs
You and Odd are the most awesome internet couple in existence and I love you both so much.
I'm so happy they added this bomb and gave the Lancaster the proper respect it deserves. I live a short distance away from where one of the two remaining flying Lancasters is based, and the sound of those engines fills me with joy.
4 RR Merlins in harmony.
Stirs the soul doesn't it?
HOME TOWN BABY!!! build right here Windsor Ontario Canada!! sad story time, the one we had in Jackson park went for refurbishment to be airworthy only to have all the rivets screwed up and destroy any chance of it flying again without a few million bucks. 4 beautiful engines sitting right there fully refurbished. I delivered the parts myself.
The Tallboy in not a blockbuster but an earthquake bomb indeed, this one and the Grand Slam both are.
I'm not sure if I should be afraid of CAS even more now, or just blown away by the fact that my enemies are just as dead as I am.
I think every nation needs a big bomb that way we call all be scared of each other no matter what side we're on.
The fact that the Phly logo isn't properly centered on the airforce roundel does honestly hurt
Hey buddy!! Haven’t watched you for a few months but you’re still I’ll just as entertaining!
The friendly fire incidents are gonna be 10x worse now lmfao
the IS-2's 122mm HE round could crack the armor of the front plate of the panther in cold conditions. Gaijin's HE damage numbers aren't totally realistic since they don't factor in material integrity, (or simulate any kind of armor cracking) but the line needed drawing somewhere!
For those that don't understand what I mean by material integrity and armor cracking, you can get through a thick armor plate even with a weak gun if you just smack it over and over in the same spot. This doesn't cause a clean penetration. Instead, the armor eventually gives up and cracks into a bunch of pieces. This tends to also have the unfortunate effect of pulverizing the crew inside :(
My adhd brain reacting to phlydaily landing the Lancaster: 🎶You can always go around🎶
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Legendary ending Phly xD have a nice day man
Literally just watched the PE-8 video for the first time PHLY. Me likey.
i checked and he really likey
3:42 What about the Heinkel HE-112 H16 or whatever it is big bomb?
You need to use the Char 2C with the F.222.2, it is the most glorious French combo
the bomb killed the ballons, like damn. RULE BRITANNIA.
Propeller manufacturer : why does the sales skyrocketed this month ?
the sales: how would i know
Phly:...
The fact you can bring out that half nuke with only 1 kill and 1 assist is insane. Also lancasters were known to be horribly inaccurate, yet the bomb goes to the pixel where the bomb sight is showing. Theyve got to up the spawn cost and decrease the bomb accurancy or theres no point playing any match with the british in it
Going out with a bang
Odd needs to watch this video, no 70% Concept 3 in Lancaster video. So very nice done Phly, still the best and only
No Clark, that right there is a Blockbuster!
That was just lovely. Such pleasant runs followed by the most hilarious ending xD
That's one hilarious bomb.
And you guys that come up with these names... Longus Dongus? TakeMyBigPotato? Sh*t has me dying.
Imagine the frustration of your team taking 5 12000 pound bombs in a single match... that's a pounding
In the intro briefing: I think the word you wanted was "modular", not "cookie" (or even "cookie cutter").
Ex: LEGO are modular bricks, that you can combine to make something bigger.
my mans over here dropping tactical nukes
Math checks out, also, if they would have done it only to avoid breaking the game then i'd be fine with it, all I want is a bigger explosion effect
You almost just dropped more bombs in 1 battle than I dropped in 4 hours😅
11:53
Average wehraboo player: finally a challenger worthy of my Krupp steel armo-
12:07 I would love to see the expansion from your pov as well if you could add that instant replay from your pov after the initial pov in future vids,
Phly: Bomb big.
Me: 🤣😂 Yes.
Hey Phly, if they're considering adding in a bomb of this size for the Bri'ish, do you think they might ever add the b36 peacemaker and its t12 earthquake bombs?
"Aircraft Destroyed"
*Is literally still chasing and shooting you for 700 feet*
imagine some panthers and tigers wanting to bully some shermans and then philly says no and kills the whole team
just need the 22000 lb grand slam now
11:44 definition of overkill...
with quick maffs, the area m^2 of the 12k bomb is 40828.14m^2, while the 5k bomb is 34636.06m^2, so you get an extra 6192.08m^2 of killing area, thats like almost 18% larger
Loved the carrier landings
He 111 2500kg bomb got its blast radius reduced by 10m in this update :(
NOOOO
My Grandpa flew Lancaster bombers in the war so this is a nice treat.
another way you could look at it is essentially if it has x amount of tnt power, the bomb is capable of affecting the same amount that that amount of tnt would, except how efficient is it at destroying whatever it is you want gone. that’s the way i look at bomb weight
double the distance you have 4x less power.. Same problem with RF output power.
UA-cam ads got me as hard as phly got his allies on the last run, a 15 sec unskipeable ad just perfect placement between the bomb landing and the explotion, 3 times on the vid
Bro my favorite video is you in the E-100 getting bombed by the Pe-8. This video just reminded me of it I have to go back and watch it again.