Whatifalthist’s Death Theory is DISTURBINGLY Stupid
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Almost went under a tractor trailer once. Hit the rear axel of the truck. That experience didn't make life seem brighter. It's just a trauma.
Walked away with deep bruising in my shoulder for those curious. It was not a slow hit. Somewhere between 40 and 70 mph
Im considering, but I think there is a proximity to death that can bring euphoria. Getting mugged, and hitting that semi were my two closest experiences, and they're both traumas. But another moment comes to mind.
A tow truck was coming up the middle of the road. It was a winding road, so I initially thought that he was being loose with the lines since there was no traffic, and that he'd take his lane now that I occupied the other. He didn't. I was forced to hard brake and swerve off the road. When my tires hit the dirt I got almost instantly sideways. I was able from there to correct my angle and continue driving as if it hadn't happened. My immediately reaction was elation.
I think this kind of experience, where death bares its teeth for just a moment, and you're able to duck all consequence is the type of near death experience that can bring joy. And its because you don't realize in the moment how close you are. If i was asked to bring up all my near death experiences, this one wouldn't even register in my mind.
Brother that 15 year old relative was anxious because of YOU. He is afraid of YOU. Not your airBNB. That + his teaachers thinking he was a would be school shooter are two things you couldn't get out of me in a CIA black site.
I might be feeling that whatifalthist's perspective is being (more) infantile (than usual) because I did spend my teenage years terrified of and obsessed with death - in a way that was doubtless shaped by a broader cultural obsession with youth, anti-ageism, and my own age's short-sightedness. I've mellowed out. Nowadays, I look forward to some aspects of ageing. By all means, I don't like my own mortality but I don't fear it because that's useless. What I am struggling to cope with is the mortality of loved ones - and not talking about *that* makes me think you are either cripplingly isolated or narcissistic, which makes me sad for you
The meaning of life is 42 there I save you an hour of your time.
I think it meant fortitude.
I remember hearing that the guy with the cave said the guy who drank hemlock said that philosophy was training for death.
A large percentage of people I went to high school with(9/11 happened my senior year) are shells of who they once were. It was very recent that we left Afghanistan and my brother in the army was on deployment in Mount Sinai during the Arab Spring. I was sussed out by a creepy Navy recruiter like he wanted to do something in a NSFW way to me in high school that initially kept me from enlisting post high school. The Iraq War I just had a gut feeling it was immoral. But like these terminally online young guys can try to be a Marine if they are smarter than Kyle Rittenhouse they are in.
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I have family that are heavy into the whole "if I have ego death from mushrooms or DMT, I'll meet Jesus and aliens!" And it's (like this video title describes althist) disturbing AF and just really dumb and sad. I have a feeling folks like "whatifItalianhisterectomy" have a big influence on why people even hear that shit to begin with haha
On the other hand, psychedelics are a really interesting tool for people who use them safely and with more purposes than meeting sky daddy and "killing your ego"(not ironic at all).
I have chronic pain, and while mushrooms did not cure anything I had, it did provide an experience that gave me a different resolve than I had before when it comes to my pain, delression and stress from it. Now, I've learned how to manage my pain a lot better and I am not as depressed from my conditions. It didn't completey evaporate my depression in any way, but I do think it helped me to think more optimistically, especially since it didn't cost me thousands of dollars in medical bills lol.
I'm not arguing for it to be a cure or a solution or the solution or anything, it just has helped me a lot lol.
The lack of research into medical application of psychedelic drugs is criminal
@@Tastyduckling5 I completely agree in so many ways.
I always have a hard time explaining why it can be medicinal for me and a big reason for that is the lack of reliable acedemic references and just studies in general.
I just use it for the following: Fun, art, spiritual, and fun. Hopefully, I am not one of those people who ruin it, by being "dumb and sad" some of this stuff is for my personal mental health and dealing with trauma.
Also I had an ego death, and I didn't meet aliens, it's just a relaxing feeling. Personally, I did feel spiritual with it, but that's moreso a personal feeling of mine, rather than the objective feeling of others. Joe Rogan and his consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Plus I don't think we should be hard on people who do it for spiritual purposes, I get what you mean, but know not all of us are like Joe Rogan, some of us are normal people that just happen to be spiritual, I understand it's not the cure-all or that it's even for everyone, i am just a queer person looking to express themselves and live my life as happily as possible.
His voice shits me.. The way he draws out the last syllable of every sentence.
For something to exist, its opposite must exist? What's the opposite of cheese?
Oh wow, it just gets worse.. Incredible..
The opposite of cheese is anti cheese. Duh stupid?
I am a simple NB, I see the word "psychedelic" I click.
Why would brooks say “it’s not like a near death experience”, they literally call it ego death, ayahuasca is definitely described as that.
So here's my perspective as someone who has experienced a NDE, as well as having a lot of experience with hallucinogens of various sorts (including DMT, although I've only smoked it, never tried ayahuasca): what I experienced during my NDE wasn't much at all like what I experienced on DMT or other classical psychedelics, but instead I'd say if anything more closely resembled experiences I've had on "k-hole" doses of ketamine and other dissociatives. My experiences with DMT *have* indeed been very intense, they definitely *feel* like "spiritual" experiences, for lack of a better word, they involve interactions with benevolent alien (as in "otherworldly-seeming", not necessarily from outer space, per se) entities (the "machine elves" you've probably heard about, and in my case they in fact always have handed me these amazing toy-like machines--at least that's the best comparison I have for them--they seem to just generate out of nothing, and usually they do something incredible to witness, I swear one of them once generated a hologram-like image that looked an awful lot like a vision of my own future, at least that's how I remember it, and they always feel like the most amazing gift you've ever been handed) in these exotic realms, and they always come with this feeling of deep deja vu or familiarity, almost like I'm returning to something from my earliest, dearest memories, or maybe even before that, but none of the above is quite like what I experienced during a NDE, so I tend to think whatever is going on there, it's something markedly different.
"Ego death" on psychedelics is a more specific thing, I've only experienced a couple times ever, and it's very often not actually altogether pleasant, the best way I can describe it is feeling like you've ceased to exist as a distinct being, you're just part of *everything* now, and you no longer have an identity as a person, it's hard to explain because you're still conscious, but it's like there's no concept of a distinct "you" anymore, conscious experience just becomes a *thing* with no connection to any personal identity, and again it can be pretty terrifying, because it *does* almost kind of feel like you've ceased to exist but are somehow still conscious, as hard to explain as that is. Once again, ego death is a lot different from a NDE, in my experience
Basically, to sum up my longer comment; people vary a lot in how they respond to hallucinogens, but in my personal experience NDEs and psychedelic experiences specifically are fairly different things, dissociative experiences are closer, but I'm guessing Brooks doesn't have as much experience with those as most sane people don't (but I could be wrong, of course).
Because while it is intense, you are still alive and conscious, and therefore, its easier to reconcile.
A Near-Death Experience usually involves you either literally nearly dying, or going unconscious and being moments away from dying. Much harder to move past that, especially if you don't even remember the details of it.
Ego death can be very peaceful. Interesting enough, so can near death experiences. At least parts of it.
23:35 Kinda encapsulates the whole problem. Wars were always fought with economic elements to them. To gain territory, to gain resources. But you have to sell it to your soldiers so there’s always a spiritual or religious element to it. Talk with the conservative long enough, and you will always see them fall into this trap.
talking to my Hindu friends, Shiva and Brahma are both creators, but in different ways. Brooks was correct in a sense about Shiva, but I think there's more to it than that. Brahma's creation, it seems, is much more abstract, where Shiva's creation seems to be more immediate and relevant. I think that Shiva is more readily regarded as a creator (but also a destroyer) than Brahma. It's not entirely far-fetched, given the history of conquerors and empires (think of someone like Ashoka who, before spreading Buddhism all over the subcontinent and into Central Asia and setting up temples and whatnot, committed terrible acts of violence and destruction to achieve his position)
Ive been ressucitated twice in my life after flatlining. From what i remember of those two experiences, rudy has no idea what hes talking about. But i dont think i need that qualification to point out the obvious.
But how would you describe your experiences then?
maybe not everyone has the same expirience? just like psychedelic trips are incredibly varied and range from meh, to the most hellish thing to the most euphoric thing depending on the person
@@Skelfi I can't really describe them to someone who hasn't experienced it. But in my best attempt I would say I Remember the events that lead up to flatlining but at some indeterminable point, I stopped being aware of anything, and suddenly I woke up. there was no real experience, I ceased to exist and when I was resuscitated, both times, It felt very much like a dream where you are in front of a crowd expecting you to speak on things you don't know if you ever really knew.
@@aguspuig6615 Fair enough but I'm speaking less about Rudy's individual experiences with psychedelics, and more about his reasoning that death is part of some meaningful cycle. If I learned anything from my experience it's that death is largely the concern of those who have not experienced anything like it. Rudy asserts that life would be meaningless without death, and I fundamentally disagree. Life is an experience completely unique to itself, and death is the absence of the things that allow us to experience life. Life without death only loses meaning if you rely on external influences to give it meaning.
@@BloodyBulletShellz I see it as that everything we subjectively experience, is coming from the bodys impulses to switch between homeostasis and allostasis, survival and replication. These impulses then takes the shape of thoughts, emotions, mental images etc. These phenomenas directions is what we percieve as "meaning(s)".
If there wasn't death, the body would not send there impulses to avoid it on individual, collective(genetic) level, and thus "meaning(s)" would not appear. So in this sense I can aggree that one could say that life is meaningless without death.
This Whatif gentlemen would get five hundreds times more annoying if he found out about semiotic theories, that’s all I can tell you
What semiotoc theories? WIAH is probably too clever to believe such communist bullshite.
So this guy does shrooms wrong once and we all gotta pay for it
Minor correction, but Brooks describing German society as Catholic is questionable at best, if not just outright incorrect.
German Christianity is unfortunately dead. When it was still Christian (100 years ago), it was majority Lutheran with Catholics in the south.
@@hismajesty6272 wasnt it christian during the big bad wars
Now this is theory
The interior of the Ayasofya is genuinely beautiful, if you're ever in Istanbul it's worth a visit at least once
If this is the edited insanity he chooses to put on YT, imagine the unrestrained lunacy he's imaprting on his nephew in the car on the way to the airbnb.
remember burger king foot lettuce?
this is him now
feel old yet?
Ok so far im a minute into the video and they are already laughing before anything has happened, ill try to stay open mined and keep editing the comment as far as i watch
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Trick question, it was Death.
I saw a dead finch under my truck just now, life is so much brighter and more exhilarating now wow
as you say, he highlights the importance of the trinity but then speaks in binary - and the best part about this that you guys may have missed (I haven't finished the video yet) is he had an example he could have gave with Shiva. Brahma (the creator), Vishnu (the preserver) and Shiva (the destroyer) - but all three are actually manifestations of the same being, God if you will. I'm sure he lacks the nuance to understand that given he could have made a trinity argument at that very point.
he's trying to use occult/alchemical symbols but clearly doesn't understand the meanings himself, especially given he wraps it into arbitrary materialism to argue we should return to the 19th or early 20th centuries, a conclusion no serious student of these fields would make.
*I see y'all indeed address it and the point of western colonization of these systems is spot on.
"In every culture creation and distraction are symbolized by the divine feminine."
Forgets he just talked about Sheva the male god of creation and destruction. Like dude you just disproved yourself and Jung.
Damn, old stream
If people are watching whatifalthist's videos centuries from now it will be because they finally got the technology to do so again after a long dark age, and are trying to find out what went wrong with our society.
44:24
I thought he said higher Sophia.
I thought he was getting gnostic on us.
Disappointing.
he seems to be almost there
36:29 yes dogs are in fur we know this
Why doesn't he spellcheck his slides?
2:50 ''this is a stupid quote'' ''it sounds like something out of Dune'' *Strawman Peterson voice*
6 minutes in its all ''this is wrong'' ''this is so stupid'' without much reference to any source or explaination of whats wront, as well as eye rolling ''buddy'', giggles and such.
12 minutes in downplaying the stated near death expiriences and laughing. Taking the silliest possible interpretation of ''shamanic spirit quest'' instead of ''took drugs, felt like he was dying, then its like a near death expirience'' ''ooh the silly little boy thinks he went to hell like he went on a walk and went to the underworld haha hes so dumb'' but to clarify this last part only comes from the bottom guy, we have vaush at home looking ahh, not the other guy
''that is not the reaction to death'' i guess these two know the one and only reaction to near death expiriences
''the people at the stock side of a gun in a colonial war'' my brother in christ, if youre in a war you risk dying, both sides do that
I don’t get peoples obsession with death. I tend to think you just become something else and grow closer to unity with the totality of being. The fundamental truth is it’s much like a big sleep there may be dreams but that beckons greater questions about what constitutes reality.
This is just overly critical nonsense and it it looks kind of petty, tbh.
Whatifalthist sounding more neurodivergent than usual in this one. 👍
I love his maps, they're weird racist fever dreams.
or Hearts of Iron -> you know which factions he plays.
Haters.
They jelly they not as big
2:18 me too!
Is this a repeat?
It was never uploaded as a segment. This is from back when I didn't have an editor.
@@PresidentSunday Okay, thought it seemed familiar
Rudy is clearly insane. He has no charisma, and is bad at explaining things. Why do people watch him, why has his channel exploded? Jordan Peterson is at least charismatic and (mostly) sane, and is generally a decent orator, even if he ideas aren't coherent. Rudy has no positive qualities.
Peterson havent been sane in years ever since he had that drug coma thing, I guess he also "went to hell" or smt
It’s the rubbernecking phenomenon from traffic accidents.
They’re horrible, but you can’t help taking the time and opportunity to look.
dont you think its kinda pathetic critiquing every one of his talking points?
No
Straight from the, just let people have fun, intellectual camp.
i mean they were laughing at the tittle alone. This feels like the staunch atheist club laughing at a 23 year old guy talking about his spiritual ideas. The type of vibe that youd see in people who enter church sermons just to laugh out loud
@@aguspuig6615 so you're saying there's no value in criticizing bad ideas?
@@BloodyBulletShellz so you're saying all instances of criticism are totally equal in all ways?