3 + years towing with my Mitsi PHEV,The biggest advantage of towing a caravan with the Mitsi PHEV is you got an off grid power supply , via the cars 13kw batteries to supply all your caravan 240 volt system,showers , microwave ,air con etc etc , and when using charge mode it's quiter than my 5 KVA diesel generator. I love my Mitsi PHEV 😉
Can you give us the weight I saw that there was only 2000 pounds I could pull this trailer looks like it be way more than that I’ve been looking at retro travel trailers in there like 2500 pounds and they’re only 14 feet so this is bigger than that in the video which one are you using how much we are you using and how long can you go without having to stop to recharge thank you in advance
Having owned 2 PHEV's for nearly 5 years I can confirm they are good cars. Problem is the lack of torque - it uses a petrol engine. Pottering around town on electricity great. Motorway cruiser, superb. Towing a large caravan - take ear defenders.
Just done some more towing of my 1,200kg caravan. Hilly country means you will need ear defenders. And watch out for the "Propulsion reduced" message on a steep hill. This means you have run out of electricity and you are on your own with the 2.0 petrol engine. Thinking of taking the caravan to Spain next year - I am not taking the PHEV. Shame.
Yes, I'm a PHEV driver and tower, so I'm convinced, but; he didn't climb any hills or show us the motorway, which is a shame, because at low speed climbing with the van in tow, the engine takes a bit of getting used to.
I love my PHEV as a tow car and for everyday use. You only have 25 - 28 miles range on electric so you use petrol for the bulk of the tow. It is great, though, to have electric power for maneuvering on or off site. And it is SO comfortable, cheap and environmentally friendly the rest of the year.
If you have the kids with DVD players etc plus the fridge in the van on whilst towing, we have found that having the PHEV in charge mode may not charge the batteries at all especially when on the motorway or up the hills. Snowdonia was a challenge but it pulled, just got to get used the high revs after our previous Diesel engine. Norfolk was a cinch though. It’s a small fuel tank so be prepared to fill up when you are down to a 1/4 tank as it soon goes to zero! Overall 7/10 for towing. 10/10 for a family car. Nice smooth drive.
My family owns 2 Mits Phevs, we love them. Towing isn't as plain sailing as this review indicates. On the flat it's great, it can also tackle hills with relative ease. But what it can't do is pull a heavy load from a standing start up a steep hill. One needs to be aware of this, if you're approaching a steep hill whilst towing you have to make sure you're not going to stop, otherwise wherever you stop becomes your campsite... You're not going to get going again.. it's a mistake you'll only ever make ONCE Other than that they're superb!
What convinced me to get my first Mits Phev was the negative reviews here on YT. I'd often see an off road comparison with the a Land rover or something similar, and.. as you'd expect it would always come out second best. I'd watch videos comparing is ride quality to the Range Rover Phev, and again it'd come out second best. There were a few videos with multiple SUV's where it got a middle of the road score.. All of this showed me that just to be considered worthy of being compared to dinner really high end vehicles it must have a lot going fire if, especially at (in some cases) half, or even a third of the price.. They might not be the best Phevs, the best 'off roader', or the most luxurious SUV, but it's generally good at most things.
It all looked rather flat in the video but, having towed regularly with this PHEV for 3 years it's also good on the hills, albeit the petrol engine has to rev freely to produce power needed.
How long can you drive on electric before it switches over and how much pounds are using please this trailer that he has looks more than 2000 pounds and I looked up the specs online and says that this vehicle can tow up to 2000 pounds which is not enough I mean the camper travel trailer that I was looking at is 14 feet and it says it needs to be 2000 to 2500 pounds that’s not including your coolers full with ice food in there and a couple bags gear etc. could you share your details please what year model also
Why are we getting mixed information in America regarding the PHEV tow rating... here they only show 1500 lbs max, but in the UK you can tow up to twice that... it makes no sense when the PHEV has more torque then the petrol version that has the 3500 lb rating... if it’s a braking issue, then that makes no sense either when you can set the Regen for 5 to assist with braking.
It's a braked system on a trailer that will healthily add 1500lbs , NA is always showing unbraked. I found information that its up to 4000lbs but that's a full max. Did you find something else?
Hi, could I use a screen shot from your video on a website? I am thinking of using screen shot from 4:54 and 4:59. Only thinking of doing so! Thank you!!
Berichten Sie mal bitte über die Lademöglichkeiten und Ladeinfrastruktur des Mitsubishi Outlander Plug-in Hybrid der mit CHADEMO ausgestattet ist. Danke.
Reports I have read over recent years by caravan and towing organisations are not so complimentary rating it as average 3 stars out of 5, but 4 when solo, such as the tow car awards. Hopefully the newer car has finally improved upon such criticisms.
When he commented that he had more charge in the battery near the end of trip then at beginning any credibility went out the window. What a load of rubbish. I've towed a caravan close to 1500kg with my PHEV and it was okay but any charge disappears very quickly, it's very noisy on the hills and fuel consumption was in the low 20s MPG (UK). Our car has been back to the garage several times in less than 12000 miles because we've never been able to fast charge, the keyless locks stick and now don't work. I wouldn't buy another Mitsubishi.
Hi Phillip Sorry to learn of your negative experience with the PHEV. We have currently leased two identical 2018 Mitsubishi PHEV’s after putting a few miles on them each to put them to our initial tests. Today, I am actually at the dealership to get our first hitch installed. After watching a number of videos, reading a few articles about the capabilities of the PHEV and our own experiences with two of these vehicles, we are very impressed so far. I have really tested the one I drive to determine handling, performance and durability. While not perfect in the handling in corners, I would give these vehicles a overall 9 out of 10 favorable consumer rating based on many factors (I have no gain or affiliation with Mitsubishi or any organization associated with this vehicle). I think most owners seem to really like them a lot despite these not being luxury vehicles. Again, sorry to hear of your situation. Best of luck out there.
Wouldn't putting it in charge mode charge the batteries and stop any battery drain since only the gas engine is running in charge mode (like shown in this video)?
So tell me please. What range did you get on the batteries? What was driving like when the petrol engine kicked in? Still enough "linear" power? Still no noise? What was the fuel consumption then? The Outlander is a good car. The PHEV i bet is great for everyday commuting when you need a family sized car and have a socked to load it up at home. But for towing a caravan to Italy or even southern England to Scottland it sucks. I'll stick to my Diesel Outlander. And by the way, I doubt this was an independent test. Cheers
It is a failure as a 4wd as it wont pull out of the soft sand on the beach where as the 2.4 petrol only model petrol will.. This review is half right, it is a fast powerful car... the 2.4 engine and the electric motors add up to 200kw of power.. it dosnt feel anything like that but still much faster than the 2.4 petrol only model, maybe its weight.. Try pulling this caravan up a steep hill doing a hill start.. wont do it.. or off a muddy soft paddock where all the wheels have sunk a little, it will rev up a bit but it appears too high geared to get going.. it is a great machine for other purposes though.
Hello can anybody who drives a petrol/electric car give me an honest answer to driving 200 miles with a good size caravan what the mpg is ? Because I can not see a small 2 lt petrol car with a 1500kg caravan delivering more than 35 mpg. Cheers Alex
I imagine 25mpg, battery will be gone after first 30 miles, that’s without the caravan, so now you are lugging around a dead battery pack, 4 people, and a caravan with an outdated petrol engine
In doesn't work on steep mountain roads with a 1000 kg caravan. With a half full battery it simply... stopped, after three km of an awful revs agony. Needed to cool down or what ever and then started again at 20 km/h. Useless.
No mention of fuel consumption, no mention of the fact once you're beyond electric range then its NOT fuel efficient, no mention of it's poor hill start performance. What a load of tosh, independent, I think not. He even claimed to have more power in the batteries than at the start of the journey, that can only happen by having a long downhill stretch or burning fuel, neither due to the efficiency of the system. Absolute bullshit
3 + years towing with my Mitsi PHEV,The biggest advantage of towing a caravan with the Mitsi PHEV is you got an off grid power supply , via the cars 13kw batteries to supply all your caravan 240 volt system,showers , microwave ,air con etc etc , and when using charge mode it's quiter than my 5 KVA diesel generator. I love my Mitsi PHEV 😉
How do you use the car for off grid power? How are you connecting the van to the car?
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Can you give us the weight I saw that there was only 2000 pounds I could pull this trailer looks like it be way more than that I’ve been looking at retro travel trailers in there like 2500 pounds and they’re only 14 feet so this is bigger than that in the video which one are you using how much we are you using and how long can you go without having to stop to recharge thank you in advance
Having owned 2 PHEV's for nearly 5 years I can confirm they are good cars. Problem is the lack of torque - it uses a petrol engine. Pottering around town on electricity great. Motorway cruiser, superb. Towing a large caravan - take ear defenders.
Just done some more towing of my 1,200kg caravan. Hilly country means you will need ear defenders. And watch out for the "Propulsion reduced" message on a steep hill. This means you have run out of electricity and you are on your own with the 2.0 petrol engine. Thinking of taking the caravan to Spain next year - I am not taking the PHEV. Shame.
Yes, I'm a PHEV driver and tower, so I'm convinced, but; he didn't climb any hills or show us the motorway, which is a shame, because at low speed climbing with the van in tow, the engine takes a bit of getting used to.
I love my PHEV as a tow car and for everyday use. You only have 25 - 28 miles range on electric so you use petrol for the bulk of the tow. It is great, though, to have electric power for maneuvering on or off site. And it is SO comfortable, cheap and environmentally friendly the rest of the year.
Plus: I just filled up today 20 January. The last time was 6 December!
Do you have a 7-pin plug and harness to tow an electric travel trailer?
If you have the kids with DVD players etc plus the fridge in the van on whilst towing, we have found that having the PHEV in charge mode may not charge the batteries at all especially when on the motorway or up the hills. Snowdonia was a challenge but it pulled, just got to get used the high revs after our previous Diesel engine. Norfolk was a cinch though. It’s a small fuel tank so be prepared to fill up when you are down to a 1/4 tank as it soon goes to zero! Overall 7/10 for towing. 10/10 for a family car. Nice smooth drive.
What sort of tank range do you get when towing your caravan?
well done Neil, great encouragement to face the climate challenge ✊
What about throwing some lithium ions in the trailers undercarriage and extend the quiet/battery power range and/or the off grid time in the trailer.
My family owns 2 Mits Phevs, we love them.
Towing isn't as plain sailing as this review indicates. On the flat it's great, it can also tackle hills with relative ease. But what it can't do is pull a heavy load from a standing start up a steep hill. One needs to be aware of this, if you're approaching a steep hill whilst towing you have to make sure you're not going to stop, otherwise wherever you stop becomes your campsite... You're not going to get going again.. it's a mistake you'll only ever make ONCE
Other than that they're superb!
If retrieving or launching boats on ramps, i feel the PHEV would struggle.
What convinced me to get my first Mits Phev was the negative reviews here on YT. I'd often see an off road comparison with the a Land rover or something similar, and.. as you'd expect it would always come out second best.
I'd watch videos comparing is ride quality to the Range Rover Phev, and again it'd come out second best. There were a few videos with multiple SUV's where it got a middle of the road score..
All of this showed me that just to be considered worthy of being compared to dinner really high end vehicles it must have a lot going fire if, especially at (in some cases) half, or even a third of the price..
They might not be the best Phevs, the best 'off roader', or the most luxurious SUV, but it's generally good at most things.
Does the Outlander PHEV have a 7-pin plug and harness to tow an electric braked trailer?
Would my LincolnMKZ hybrid be able to tow something around 2KLbs?
Can someone explain how the UK PHEV is rated to tow 3x what the USA PHEV is rated?
Is the 1,500kgs the fully laden weight that the Outlander can tow?
It all looked rather flat in the video but, having towed regularly with this PHEV for 3 years it's also good on the hills, albeit the petrol engine has to rev freely to produce power needed.
How long can you drive on electric before it switches over and how much pounds are using please this trailer that he has looks more than 2000 pounds and I looked up the specs online and says that this vehicle can tow up to 2000 pounds which is not enough I mean the camper travel trailer that I was looking at is 14 feet and it says it needs to be 2000 to 2500 pounds that’s not including your coolers full with ice food in there and a couple bags gear etc. could you share your details please what year model also
what better for tow caravan manual or auto
Why are we getting mixed information in America regarding the PHEV tow rating... here they only show 1500 lbs max, but in the UK you can tow up to twice that... it makes no sense when the PHEV has more torque then the petrol version that has the 3500 lb rating... if it’s a braking issue, then that makes no sense either when you can set the Regen for 5 to assist with braking.
It's a braked system on a trailer that will healthily add 1500lbs , NA is always showing unbraked. I found information that its up to 4000lbs but that's a full max. Did you find something else?
Hi, could I use a screen shot from your video on a website? I am thinking of using screen shot from 4:54 and 4:59. Only thinking of doing so! Thank you!!
Just found this, for honest review read advertisement me thinks.
Berichten Sie mal bitte über die Lademöglichkeiten und Ladeinfrastruktur des Mitsubishi Outlander Plug-in Hybrid der mit CHADEMO ausgestattet ist. Danke.
Reports I have read over recent years by caravan and towing organisations are not so complimentary rating it as average 3 stars out of 5, but 4 when solo, such as the tow car awards. Hopefully the newer car has finally improved upon such criticisms.
Hi Gary, fancy giving the new one a go on a test drive? Thanks, Becky
When he commented that he had more charge in the battery near the end of trip then at beginning any credibility went out the window. What a load of rubbish. I've towed a caravan close to 1500kg with my PHEV and it was okay but any charge disappears very quickly, it's very noisy on the hills and fuel consumption was in the low 20s MPG (UK). Our car has been back to the garage several times in less than 12000 miles because we've never been able to fast charge, the keyless locks stick and now don't work. I wouldn't buy another Mitsubishi.
Hi Phillip Sorry to learn of your negative experience with the PHEV. We have currently leased two identical 2018 Mitsubishi PHEV’s after putting a few miles on them each to put them to our initial tests. Today, I am actually at the dealership to get our first hitch installed. After watching a number of videos, reading a few articles about the capabilities of the PHEV and our own experiences with two of these vehicles, we are very impressed so far. I have really tested the one I drive to determine handling, performance and durability. While not perfect in the handling in corners, I would give these vehicles a overall 9 out of 10 favorable consumer rating based on many factors (I have no gain or affiliation with Mitsubishi or any organization associated with this vehicle). I think most owners seem to really like them a lot despite these not being luxury vehicles. Again, sorry to hear of your situation. Best of luck out there.
Wouldn't putting it in charge mode charge the batteries and stop any battery drain since only the gas engine is running in charge mode (like shown in this video)?
2.0 or 2.4?
So tell me please. What range did you get on the batteries? What was driving like when the petrol engine kicked in? Still enough "linear" power? Still no noise? What was the fuel consumption then? The Outlander is a good car. The PHEV i bet is great for everyday commuting when you need a family sized car and have a socked to load it up at home. But for towing a caravan to Italy or even southern England to Scottland it sucks. I'll stick to my Diesel Outlander.
And by the way, I doubt this was an independent test.
Cheers
Tine-te de dieselul tau, ca in cativa ani il vei duce la fier vechi
I fear that in a PHEV the PETROL motor is relatively small and would struggle in more demanding conditions.
Its an advertorial !
How many pounds did you tow?
It is a failure as a 4wd as it wont pull out of the soft sand on the beach where as the 2.4 petrol only model petrol will.. This review is half right, it is a fast powerful car... the 2.4 engine and the electric motors add up to 200kw of power.. it dosnt feel anything like that but still much faster than the 2.4 petrol only model, maybe its weight.. Try pulling this caravan up a steep hill doing a hill start.. wont do it.. or off a muddy soft paddock where all the wheels have sunk a little, it will rev up a bit but it appears too high geared to get going.. it is a great machine for other purposes though.
Sorry, but there is nothing independent about that review at all. Please file under Mitsubishi marketing ads.
Thanks for your feedback on this Matt. Becky
I thought the PHEV can only two 1,500 pounds. This trailer looks like it weighs a lot more then 1,500 pound
That’s what I was thinking. No response back huh?
1500kgs
Hello can anybody who drives a petrol/electric car give me an honest answer to driving 200 miles with a good size caravan what the mpg is ? Because I can not see a small 2 lt petrol car with a 1500kg caravan delivering more than 35 mpg. Cheers
Alex
What he said is a load of old rubbish, the battery will be gone in about ten miles, then you will be on petrol and down to low 20s per gallon.
I imagine 25mpg, battery will be gone after first 30 miles, that’s without the caravan, so now you are lugging around a dead battery pack, 4 people, and a caravan with an outdated petrol engine
Top car MT
In doesn't work on steep mountain roads with a 1000 kg caravan. With a half full battery it simply... stopped, after three km of an awful revs agony. Needed to cool down or what ever and then started again at 20 km/h. Useless.
Very slow pace. Not a lot of information about towing experience.
No mention of fuel consumption, no mention of the fact once you're beyond electric range then its NOT fuel efficient, no mention of it's poor hill start performance. What a load of tosh, independent, I think not. He even claimed to have more power in the batteries than at the start of the journey, that can only happen by having a long downhill stretch or burning fuel, neither due to the efficiency of the system. Absolute bullshit
Not power.
TORQUE.
Now pull the van UP a hill and enjoy the loud engine reving😂
Do not buy this Car. It has major battery degradation/bmu issues!
then use gas :)
I’ve done more than 70,000 miles in mine over 4 years and had hardly any degradation, don’t believe everything you read on line.
Mine is 6 year old and returns 26 out of a potential 32 miles on electric, so no complaints from me.