Billy was under my dad as a rookie in the police force in NC. I knew him personally as a young girl and I admired him back then more so because when my dad passed away, he came from that undercover moment to be at my dad's funeral then returned back to his undercover. I will always admire and love Billy Queen. He lost so much for what he believed in.
It's cool going after bikers. Doctors over bill billions every year for med bills, all those machines sitting in corner of hospital room. Rich cheat on taxes for billions every year. Construction companies hire illegals. Politicians get speaker fees and payoffs. Pharmacys sell more drugs then all the worlds dealers. Can't touch these big wheels cops would be fired in a day.
is this always gonna be the excuse you guys use ? corrupt government or corrupt atf agents as if somehow that changes the fact that the bikers are all criminals as well .
I_HATE_SIMPS_2 Everyone is a criminal. Just depends on what degree. If a kid steals a car is he less a thief then a developer using tax fraud. Cops don't like MCs because they put it in front for all to see, they don't hide in shadows. If you get rid of one drug dealer he's replaced in a day.
jazzynet1 I own an excavation company and I've worked for many doctors. I've never met a poor one. And I've worked for many that were worth easy 5 to 10 million. One old guy was a oral surgeon he was a good friend of mine. Years ago he bought a corner lot in Vegas, it set vacant for years then leased it for 20 years to a car wash. He said he got 10,000 a month. It was his play money. In 20 years he gets it back. He owned several hundred acres in Southern California and hundreds of acres farm ground in Utah. His son in law, also a doctor flew in one day to pick him up in his private jet. He was a nice guy and paid me well. Was telling me he was always trying to skip out on taxes. So I don't know what doctors your talking about.
The National Geographic Channel episodes about Billy Queen infiltrating the Mongols and Jay Dobyns infiltrating the Hell's Angels were great. They paid a heavy price.
I could be a cop but never a snake in the grass betraying my brothers. If I’m a cop then I’m a cop, if I’m a biker in a club then I’m a biker, never both.
@@realWorsin He makes perfect sense . All he 's saying is he couldn't and wouldn't pretend to be something he's not , just to get dirt on some bad guys by pretending to be their friend . Agent Queen wasn't forced to become Billy St. John . Undercover work is something that most cops aren't qualified for . Look what it cost him...
As soon as you become a cop you are a snake in the grass as soon as you put that cut on you have 50 years of confrontation between other patch wearing men no were you are they're men on both sides it's not for everyone
If these clubs were smart thinkers, they would make Anyone that's clean have tats before becoming a member, making them put a tat on the hand and neck.
@@rickobrien4025 in theory it's sounds right, but in reality police are protected against any crimes they commit while being undercover, especially being apart of B.E.T. but they don't want to return to civilian life with tats that are highly visible...
I'm not sure when I will have another video that good but I will answer legal questions relevant to clubs. I may not get to questions quickly, but I will get to them.
yeah getting to know someone for a long time, become like family with them just so you can betray them, that's a really cold and ugly thing to do that only a few could live with afterwards, imagine doing this and having to see yourself in the mirror every day after that. i wouldn't be able to do it. but then again im a loyal type of person so i wouldn't be able to respect myself anymore the very second i agreed to do it which i never would agree to do in the first place. loyalty and honesty is a code i live by unless law enforcement want a confession or info, then i don't know anything except that im innocent.
@@filippocorti6760 CJ my brother mongol from cen cal Visalia. Billy talks bout him in his book. Water downed of course. My bro told me how it all went down. He passed in 2015 RIP CJ. MFFM.
Idk about that but it is funny you mentioned it. When I dug up this tape it was filed under a different title. The only way it could be found was if you checked episode by episode for the entire year like I did. Someone wanted to make this hard to find.
Billy q embellished a lot of his stories and a lot of evidence was manufactured. This came out at a few trials where most of the accused were acquitted.
Huh?!..he said "they did NOT shoot" when he set up those targets in orange grove..but in book, he said they DID. He said bullets whizzed by his head as they all shot towards him and laughed as he ran out of way
@@manonbassguitar that mfer just wanted to play both sides of the fence, he was breaking the same laws that he was getting brothers busted for. I haven't read his book because I know it has to be full of bullshit, that is what sells books.
Half truth half bullcyp only those there know truth. I know if your club member an you get caught lying to another club member you out, so guys in club won't be confused. I know we need law enforcement. But all my moms friends joke. If she ever gets in trouble no cops. She,a gonna find a biker. I don't know about all that. But I've never been arrested. All my friends have. But I been riding an hanging out with clubs an I independents my whole life. An as long as they know your intensions an your not thief or lier. Your ok oh yeah what you see an hear whoen your are there. Stays there. An you. To be fair. If your friends hung out with you. Then told news about it. How would you feel? Food for thought. An biker normally only fued with other bikers, women children off limited. Normally guys with too much macho are only ones to get in trouble. But they also one cops after most times. Older I get more I let roll off my shoulder. I only place I have to be man. Is bedroom. And she appreciate it. Have great life
To be COMPLETELY honest, William Queen was a burn out, Alcoholic and at the end of a very Dismal Career. This assignment was his last attempt to redeem himself to his Agency. And he failed miserably. Most convicted got minimal sentencing partly because they were able to prove in court that throughout his entire investigation he was under the influence and perjured himself several times in court. He didn’t lose his family (Wife and Children as he claims) or his career due to this investigation. In fact he was divorced years prior to this investigation and was estranged from his children due to his alcoholism. It’s all public record. Mel Gibson bought the film rights to “Under and Alone”, The book William Queen wrote based on this 2-Year undercover operation, years ago, And basically shelved it due to the complete contradictions to the actual events, Court records, Criminal convictions, allegations and investigations into and against Mr. William Queen. All Public Record.
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Billy was under my dad as a rookie in the police force in NC. I knew him personally as a young girl and I admired him back then more so because when my dad passed away, he came from that undercover moment to be at my dad's funeral then returned back to his undercover. I will always admire and love Billy Queen. He lost so much for what he believed in.
Like Jay Dobyns, Billy Queen is the real deal tough guy undercover agent. That's one he'll of a man!
That is why being a prospect is a long process .
He was in the club longer than most people prospect
As if a bike club is the biggest and worst thing in America.
Mean while the real big crims in suits are still at it
It's cool going after bikers. Doctors over bill billions every year for med bills, all those machines sitting in corner of hospital room. Rich cheat on taxes for billions every year. Construction companies hire illegals. Politicians get speaker fees and payoffs. Pharmacys sell more drugs then all the worlds dealers. Can't touch these big wheels cops would be fired in a day.
is this always gonna be the excuse you guys use ? corrupt government or corrupt atf agents as if somehow that changes the fact that the bikers are all criminals as well .
I_HATE_SIMPS_2 Everyone is a criminal. Just depends on what degree. If a kid steals a car is he less a thief then a developer using tax fraud. Cops don't like MCs because they put it in front for all to see, they don't hide in shadows. If you get rid of one drug dealer he's replaced in a day.
@@kevincoleman9761 Doctors don't even get paid half the time. They can't afford insurance for themselves. You are barking up the wrong tree.
jazzynet1 I own an excavation company and I've worked for many doctors. I've never met a poor one. And I've worked for many that were worth easy 5 to 10 million. One old guy was a oral surgeon he was a good friend of mine. Years ago he bought a corner lot in Vegas, it set vacant for years then leased it for 20 years to a car wash. He said he got 10,000 a month. It was his play money. In 20 years he gets it back. He owned several hundred acres in Southern California and hundreds of acres farm ground in Utah. His son in law, also a doctor flew in one day to pick him up in his private jet. He was a nice guy and paid me well. Was telling me he was always trying to skip out on taxes. So I don't know what doctors your talking about.
The National Geographic Channel episodes about Billy Queen infiltrating the Mongols and Jay Dobyns infiltrating the Hell's Angels were great. They paid a heavy price.
Billie also took down a crazy dope grower out of the inland empire region of California...
Before I send my brother to jail I'd rather do his time
And he still wears a Mongol cap....
Liar
No mention of convictions because that would be embarrassing.
I could be a cop but never a snake in the grass betraying my brothers. If I’m a cop then I’m a cop, if I’m a biker in a club then I’m a biker, never both.
Your statement is illogical. The guy was an agent. The mongols were the fools, not him. He did his job and they didn't.
He was being a cop, whos job was to infiltrate the Mongols. You make zero sense.
@@realWorsin He makes perfect sense . All he 's saying is he couldn't and wouldn't pretend to be something he's not , just to get dirt on some bad guys by pretending to be their friend . Agent Queen wasn't forced to become Billy St. John . Undercover work is something that most cops aren't qualified for . Look what it cost him...
As soon as you become a cop you are a snake in the grass as soon as you put that cut on you have 50 years of confrontation between other patch wearing men no were you are they're men on both sides it's not for everyone
@@realWorsin only because you don't want it to .. it's that simple..!!!
SFFS..solo forever forever solo.
Drug dealing motorcycle clubs are done.
so he is no longer undercover but wearing a Mongols hat🤔
He still has the clubs clothing as well we guess
They'll never dismantle the Bmx bandits, he'd of got more loyalty from them the police.
Billy n Dobns need to be the guest of honor at a club , BBQ,justsayn.
I heard some members of the clubs are Muslim and don't eat pork lmao
If these clubs were smart thinkers, they would make Anyone that's clean have tats before becoming a member, making them put a tat on the hand and neck.
Before becoming a prospect run em through a lie detector test and put them under surveillance and track their vehicle.
OR, just not be in a gang committing crimes and participating in antisocial behavior. Just a thought. 💭
@@al_chargedup or get them to do everyday normal things you dont like doing like picking up your dry cleaning and washing your dog.
If the clubs were smart , they'd make every prospect commit a felony in front of at least 2 members .
@@rickobrien4025 in theory it's sounds right, but in reality police are protected against any crimes they commit while being undercover, especially being apart of B.E.T. but they don't want to return to civilian life with tats that are highly visible...
Cool up load. More of the same please .peace 🇮🇪
Thanks. Will do.
I'm not sure when I will have another video that good but I will answer legal questions relevant to clubs. I may not get to questions quickly, but I will get to them.
Better look at the Lisa ling interviews
You got to be special kind I guess to do something like that.......
yeah getting to know someone for a long time, become like family with them just so you can betray them, that's a really cold and ugly thing to do that only a few could live with afterwards, imagine doing this and having to see yourself in the mirror every day after that. i wouldn't be able to do it. but then again im a loyal type of person so i wouldn't be able to respect myself anymore the very second i agreed to do it which i never would agree to do in the first place. loyalty and honesty is a code i live by unless law enforcement want a confession or info, then i don't know anything except that im innocent.
Bro, if they ever find you your dead and your family too. It’s just how it rolls buddy……..
Family is off limits. Ask the Italian mob.
@HighwayDrifter That's true about the Italian's power. The MC referred to here would bump off this LEO's relative(s)?
Beeper,who the F uses beepers anymore??
obviously they did back then .
This story is about 20 years old
@@ericsimpson1176 Yeah, he does look young in this vid.
A lot of work for very little.
lose your family for a handful of bikers that get replaced yesterday 😂
hmm and how ground squirrls suddenly get their needed salt
Hey Billy, I know u remember CJ from Visa! Yea u remember how can u forget! He still in ur nightmares!
Who is he?
@@filippocorti6760 CJ my brother mongol from cen cal Visalia. Billy talks bout him in his book. Water downed of course. My bro told me how it all went down. He passed in 2015 RIP CJ. MFFM.
@@bulletholes7755 Sorry to hear about his passing. The author of the book wasn't honest?
I can just imagine how much he changes the story around,to try to make himself look better. Smfh
Wait.. the viewers had to go Downtown to watch this show? LOL Who wrote this CRAP?
Idk about that but it is funny you mentioned it. When I dug up this tape it was filed under a different title. The only way it could be found was if you checked episode by episode for the entire year like I did. Someone wanted to make this hard to find.
This is old news.
Not intended to be news. A reminder of how the government does it.
Billy q embellished a lot of his stories and a lot of evidence was manufactured. This came out at a few trials where most of the accused were acquitted.
Huh?!..he said "they did NOT shoot" when he set up those targets in orange grove..but in book, he said they DID. He said bullets whizzed by his head as they all shot towards him and laughed as he ran out of way
They didn’t shoot HIM. Don’t read into it 🤣
Thats the same wknd CJ got hold of him !!!!
@@manonbassguitar that mfer just wanted to play both sides of the fence, he was breaking the same laws that he was getting brothers busted for. I haven't read his book because I know it has to be full of bullshit, that is what sells books.
Half truth half bullcyp only those there know truth. I know if your club member an you get caught lying to another club member you out, so guys in club won't be confused. I know we need law enforcement. But all my moms friends joke. If she ever gets in trouble no cops. She,a gonna find a biker. I don't know about all that. But I've never been arrested. All my friends have. But I been riding an hanging out with clubs an I independents my whole life. An as long as they know your intensions an your not thief or lier. Your ok oh yeah what you see an hear whoen your are there. Stays there. An you. To be fair. If your friends hung out with you. Then told news about it. How would you feel? Food for thought. An biker normally only fued with other bikers, women children off limited. Normally guys with too much macho are only ones to get in trouble. But they also one cops after most times. Older I get more I let roll off my shoulder. I only place I have to be man. Is bedroom. And she appreciate it. Have great life
you do know that MC stands for motorcycle club right? so ur saying motorcycle club club?
Actually yes. That is known as a "typo." Thank you for pointing it out.
Ask 'Lil Dave...
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To be COMPLETELY honest, William Queen was a burn out, Alcoholic and at the end of a very Dismal Career. This assignment was his last attempt to redeem himself to his Agency. And he failed miserably. Most convicted got minimal sentencing partly because they were able to prove in court that throughout his entire investigation he was under the influence and perjured himself several times in court. He didn’t lose his family (Wife and Children as he claims) or his career due to this investigation. In fact he was divorced years prior to this investigation and was estranged from his children due to his alcoholism. It’s all public record. Mel Gibson bought the film rights to “Under and Alone”, The book William Queen wrote based on this 2-Year undercover operation, years ago, And basically shelved it due to the complete contradictions to the actual events, Court records, Criminal convictions, allegations and investigations into and against Mr. William Queen. All Public Record.