Zach Edey Vs Donovan Clingan! Who Is Better? (Breakdown)
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- Zach Edey Vs Donovan Clingan!! Who Is Better (Breakdown)In this video we talk about the college player of the year zach edey and his performance in the nba draft combine. We also talk about projected top 5 pick donovan clingan from uconn
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Zach Edey had an INCREDIBLE NBA Draft Combine... In this video we talk about the college player of the year zach edey and his performance in the nba draft combine
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I can’t imagine why it’s even a conversation. Edey is clearly a better player, I bet that irks him everyday.
Edey always had to manage his time and avoid foul trouble since he pretty much never came off the floor. So he had to pick & choose his shot blocks.
Edey is clearly better than Clingan at the moment. He'a already proven that in the ncaa and combine. Long term, we don't know, but I'd put money on the two time ncaa player of the year. A generational college player.
Agreed
Lmao you sound dumb
Nobody cares about out what you did the ncaa
ITS THE NBA grown men
Not kids
He can’t shoot lol
I wouldnt bet on it the only guy who's currently in the nba and thriving as a former player of the year is Zion. A lot of guys who were actually that good in college turn into role players 99% of the time in the league at least currently but even u had guys like Laetner who was easily the best player in college yet it was his teammate Grant Hill who actually ended up thriving and becoming a star in the league
@@Sqeaky6969 Laettner made it to the all star game
They both stink.
Zack edey already looks better than Donovan Clingan. I dont know why ppl are already passing up on Zack edey??? When it looks to me like Edey is far better than Clingan. Portland needs to draft both Fuck it
Because teams overvalue youth & athleticism. They underrate the more experienced, well polished players in terms of skill level . Unless they happen to be both highly skilled & jump out the gym athletic...That combo usually has you going top 5 , no doubt.
Unfortunately an insanely athletic 19 yr old freshman who averaged 5 ppg & 5 rpg is more likely to be drafted in 1st round than a less athletic 22 -23 yr old senior who averaged 18 to 20 ppg.
That's why every year - You'll get overlooked senior's like Brunson or Jokic who simply get overlooked because they're either a year or 2 older , or they don't have a 40 inch vertical leap.
It's actually quite brain dead - but mostly ALL teams treat 1st round picks as like a mega bucks lottery ticket , going against the odds to try & uncover the next home run like Giannis.
Very few teams actually use the draft intelligently to fill needs or roles , they'd rather gamble on a unknown potential than take a quantified , very good , already well established prospect I guess because they feel they're less moldable.
They look at the 18 to 19 yr Olds as like cookie dough they can shape into whatever they want. Which VERY rarely actually happens in a statistical sense.
My sixers got super lucky with undrafted Ricky council though this last season - He looks like sky is the limit for what he can develop into , very high top end athleticism as well. I am assuming he was simply overlooked because of very inefficient & inconsistent shooting percentages & up & down scoring averages in college. They Def got a diamond in the rough though in my opinion & he even had respectable shooting percentages in limited minutes.
So, what i keep thinking....Edey has issues defending in NBA, but i kept thinking " Why is everyone saying Clingen is so much better?" As a Grizzlies fan, I have watched Steven Adams, and he has had difficulty against KAT and other bigs that are quick and can shoot 3's. However, with JJJ as teammate, Adams deficiencies were hidden a bit. He could contest 3's better, and if burned, JJJ was behind him to gaurd rim. The rebounding Edey or Adams give can be a huge factor, giving an average shooting team more opportunities. When Adams was asked about offensive rebounding, he said " well, it helps if you mates miss alot, giving him more opportunities. Lol. Will miss the big guy!
Personally I think the big key is that a player can have individual weaknesses that are exploitable and still contribute to a high-level team defense if they have at least one thing they can do really well to add value on that side of the ball. Steph Curry and Brook Lopez are two different players with big defensive weaknesses teams like to target on switches, but have still at different times contributed to high-level defenses that won championships.
Steph may be undersized, but has historically been very smart and quick and among the best in the league at getting steals, and the Warriors built their defenses in order to minimize his vulnerabilities at the point of attack and utilize him as a pesky weak side defender who can dig at the ball or pick off skip passes, so he can be a positive force within a team concept in spite of his size limitations.
Similarly, Brook Lopez is big and very slow, but has at times been a valuable rim protector later on in his career with the Bucks, and when the right pieces were around him, that defense was highly ranked. He's learned how to be smart about positioning himself in the zone drop and using his size to take away opportunities at the rim. He's also good at using his immense frame to block out offensive rebounders and let Giannis grab rebounds to start pushing in transition, and has been an important piece of several good defensive teams.
Obviously, both of these players also provide a lot of offensive value to justify keeping them on the court, and that's important too. But a good defensive scheme accounts for what your players can and can't do, and seeks to find the right mix of players who complement each other, leveraging each other's strengths and hiding their weaknesses. It's why I can't see Zach Edey as comparable to Boban, who isn't much of a shot blocker on top of being big and slow, and thus doesn't really have defensive utility anywhere, not to mention bad stamina that limits how much he can play. Edey isn't as good a shot blocker as Clingan, but he still is very good at it, and is also an absurd rebounder. And he should provide plenty of offensive value as a screener, roller, and offensive rebounder in addition to attacking mismatches in the post, so I expect him to be able to stay on the floor, and he can make it worth a team's while to support him properly.
Did you want Edey as a Memphis Grizzlies fan? I assume you did
Well the grizzlies got Edey. Perfect fit if I’m being honest. The pick and roll defense and offense will be even more deadly with Ja. They can play JJJ at the same time too!
Edey,NPOY 2yrs. in a row where's the argument?
Calling Edey, Boban is an insult!
U right boban is the 🐐 there is no comparison
Boban much better, Edey gonna be a big bust unfortunately
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Clingan 7’1.75 without shoes
Edey 7’3.75 without shoes
Basically 7’3 and 7’5 in shoes
Is he taller and bigger than Stephen Adams, yes; is he faster than Stephen Adams, yes; Can he play the high post, yes; is he a better offensive player than Stephen Adams, yes; is he a better passer than Stephen Adams, not at the moment; is he a better defender than Stephen Adams, the jury is still out. Can we move Jaren Jackson back outside. All things considered, we made the right pick.
Edey actually beat Clingan quite easily in all Combine testing drills actually and your perimeter defence comment about Clingan being better is just wrong. Clingan is a sloth.
If the joker can play in the NBA so can Zach edey
That’s laughable. Jokic is the most skilled Big in the history of the NBA.
@@devxplayerdevelopmenta lot of people doubt jokic when he was first drafted. It’s pretty much the same situation with Edey.
@@devxplayerdevelopment most skilled my ass. He's a nice lil passer, but a literal cone defensively doesn't even protect the rim. Duncan is dominating joker on both sides of the ball so is everyone on the top 5 power forwards and center list. Because all those guys were great on both sides. Hakeem Olajuwon is giving joker 45+ and 20 with 5 blocks. Meanwhile joker would have 25 6 and 8 while getting shit on on the defensive side. Just because joker plays in a weak era for big man filled with undersized centers doesn't mean he's the most skilled.
Edey center, Wemby power forward, Rob point gurad, Vessel shooting guard, Socham small foward. Go Spurs
Sochan would have to become a knockdown shooter but otherwise that would be an insane lineup. As a Sixers fan, I’ve been saying that the Spurs should draft Rob Dillingham and Zach Edey at #4 and #8 (although they could probably trade down for more assets and still get Edey)
I'd luv my Spurs to get Risacher with their 4th pick, then Edey at 8th. So the starting lineup would be: Edey at C, Wemby at PF, Risacher at SF and Vassell at SG. (Sochan would have to come off the bench now). Then for the PG position, I'd luv them to get one via free agency, such as Darius Garland, Dejounte Murray, Derrick White, or Trae Young, or even a Malcolm Brogdon.
@@jimboycalinaya7332 that would be cool but I highly doubt that Risacher will drop to #4, I think it’s actually more likely that he is drafted with the #1 pick.
No spacing bad idea
Crazy disrespectful to Keldon Johnson
Edey is just so much better than Clingan this should be no contest. People are just getting scared away by the lumbering big man arch type. A big man has not had his touch and feel around the basket since like Yao Ming. His post strength and repertoire is basically at Yao Ming level now and he has the potential to be a good shooter or at least won't hurt you on ft line. Question is just how to hide him on defense. People mistakenly think that they won't need to hide Clingan on defense which is wrong. Clingan will be as unplayable in the match ups that Edey is unplayable in. Edey is actually the stronger and more athletic player. If he is available at late first or early 2nd it would be really stupid not to take him. As for Clingan he would just be a hard pass for me.
Agreed!
They are scared of that archetype for a reason. Doesn’t fit in this NBA. Jokic pulls it off because he has a 200 basketball IQ and world class touch. To say Edey has Yao Ming type touch is laughable. Edey will be a 13 minute per night guy at best. Big bust
@@devxplayerdevelopment Edey doesn't have the full set of counters like Yao does yet and the foot work is not as smooth but the guy's instinctive touch around the basket is there. Only someone who played in the post understand what the soft post touch is. It is that ability to put up a soft hook shot from any where in the paint under any condition. The foot work and greater variety of counters will come with time. The passing acumen and court awareness will also come with time. These things are possible to learn if you are a smart guy like Edey seems to be. The thing that won't change is the foot speed and that is up to good coaches to come up with schemes to hide.
The first 8 teams will regret they didn't drafted the two-time player of the year monster! Nobody can guard Edey and he destroyed Clingan in the championship game. He will be ROY.
I think Edey honestly should be picked earlier than Clingan. The problem is Edey probably doesn’t get used for his strengths like offense because most teams have their scores already. That leaves his weaknesses exposed such as perimeter defense. Can he be a holder on the perimeter until the defender catches up!
I think the “NBA scouts “ think Clingan fits better in the NBA he’s a better pick and roll defender. I think Eddy is more athletic/coordinated then giving credit for. Eddy is fun to watch play as well 😂.
There’s no way Clingons shot is smoother than edeys..
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Cligan shot looks so flushed vs Edey and that will be the difference going to the NBA.
I would love to see the game.Go back down low slow it down they can't stop him
I think the NBA is trending more back towards size & defense slowly. But if this was 10 or 15 yrs ago no question Edey goes #1.
The NBA has just gotten obsessed with winning the lottery on inexperienced players with crazy athleticism. So much so , they dont take experienced & accomplished players because they believe they already know what they are. They'd rather take the gamble on a 18-19 yr old freshman whos not done anything yet just because hes athletic. Ive seen many teams make huge mistakes that way.
If I have a playoff team - and slightly later picks , Im taking a guy whos prepared for a role I need. If he becomes more than that GREAT! But Im not gambling on all my picks like NBA teams do now.
I'd like my Sixers to grab Edey whether that be at the 16th pick or a 2nd round pick. Behind Embiid he can step in and slowly be groomed & adjust to the league. Maybe a spot start here or there when Embiid is out. Embiid realistically shouldn't be playing anymore than 25-30 mpg regular season anyways. Hes only played roughly half of all his NBA games. He should realistically be splitting time with another back up or two....at least for regular season....Embiid is so damn fragile , then he flops on every play. Where Edey has been durable especially at his size , he could be the perfect backup to learn from Embiid.
Why isnt edey higher for 3 to rockets
Edey >>>>> Clingan
Zach Edey, is going 19th to the Raptors.
dude ESPN's Jeremy Woo said Clingan is not comparable to Edey in multiple ways and said he would be late 2nd round if any! He's projected 3rd pick is WILD
its not a question of "who's better" but It should be "who's more suitable on playing nba kind of pace?"
Post play is simply less valuable in the NBA, though, no? Bigger bodies and peskier defenders make it more at risk of turnovers, and it slows down the offense.
They all talk about Edey's defense he has jjj nest to him 😢
The NBA is going back to big centers folks. He will go around #8. Spurs should take him there. !!!!!!
I wouldn't mind at all if the spurs drafted Zack at number four overall! He is going to be a very dominant player in the NBA and with Wemby, twin towers 2.0 will turn out to be even better than twin towers 1.0!!!
Spurs blew it and had Zach in their hands. LOL
Edey better imo, but if you draft him you have to maximize him by playing thru him, however most NBA teams want to play thru their wings and guards. Obviously on the defensive end in the NBA you would want to play Edey off the floor by involving him in pick and roll actions and attacking him. Edey's perceived weakness is that he is slow footed because he is 300 pounds just bring him out to the perimeter and exploit. I still like Edey as a throw back big. He will crush super small teams if he can stay on the floor.
Edey was dominant because there's no 3 second rule. He gets to sit under the rim all game. Andndiesnt have tonconstantly reposition and get out ofnthe lane. So a 7'5 big man is going to cook anyone in the low post. I think clingan will be a better nba player than a college player due to his skills and ability to play in various settings, where as edey needs a very specific team in order to even get in the floor consistently.
Edey is better offensively Donovan is better defensively..😮 Donovan's game will probably translate better to the pros
We talk about players.We need to talk about the referees and the cheating they do
For Grizz it's fit .... Donavan attitude fits Grizz.
Go Zach Edey!!!!!!
Clingan to Portland @ 7
Pistons draft 32
Edey easy
Dumb
Kyle Filipowski is better than both of these guys .
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This is to funny😂lol
I’m a grizzlies fan and I love drafting him
25 and 12 with 2 blocks a game and he is going to be a bust and worst pick of the draft just wait till the season rookie of the year im calling it
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