#mmd #honkaistarrail A comparison between in-game and my animation from the previous upload. in case if you wanna see the differences and the details hehe. have a good day :)
The fact that both of them dance around their shared and not so shared past is amusing. Welt does know her name, and is testing her on if he can trust her like he can with his version of Mei. Acheron makes a very Mei like answer that she is abiding by the final request of a loved one and can not simply describe her journey in a few words, Welt also knows this. The animation helps sell this even more, they have this vague familiarity with each other but don't actually come from the same place. Izumo is not the Earth Welt knows, and Welt isn't the First Sovereign that Acheron knows, but they know each other enough that Acheron knows that Welt won't attack her, and with her words and actions, Welt knows that Acheron isn't the person he's looking for. Considering what we learned about Izumo, it sounds like unfortunately Acheron at some point saw her Welt die or had to kill him herself to forge Origin. If only Welt could tell her that in one world, on one cycle, happiness happened and that she could find it too, but I doubt the woman who's swung her sword at an Aeon would listen to that.
i thought she killed kiana? since it was ‘end’ and HoE is kiana kaslana but the varient of her that destroyed the world, so to get ‘origin’ she would’ve killed ‘end’ to save the world
@@4nastajia 'End' in that world was Kevin, or her version of Kevin. We don't know when her version of Kiana died, but it was some time before End and Origin was forged, judging from the Myriad Celestia and the later talks between Welt and Acheron. I'd personally put it at either Domination or Binding that Kiana'd die.
@@Izbiski_ If there was a kiana, do remember that kiana is kinda the female iteration of kevin. There is a lot of possibilities and even then it could probably be none of them, there is a chance both of them existed, maybe the special person was not a kiana but an elysia. So on, and so forth. We can only speculate until her backstory is shown.
In game version is the final product, Zannir’s version is just a revised smoother version of the original if the game ever gets a “remastered” just like games like the modern warfare series
@@mad_engineer3254yup.That’s what people don’t realise.Want that and this but don’t think about the amount of storage that’s gonna cost and resources from hoyo that can be used for better gamemodes and such Hi3 takes so much storage and they don’t even have truly animated dialogues.If they did no doubt game would take 5-10x more storage
I was pleasantly surprised by Arlecchino's story quest. The camera angles and especially the animations on Arlecchino herself made everything seem more expressive than usual. Hopefully, Genshin will keep up that level of quality and keep learning from HSR.
@@greenssus9779 You surely haven't played Genshin recently, since late Sumeru to all of Fontaine they have improved in the dialogue sections, new animations, sound effects and a lot of camera angles.
I mean its funny to think that nobody at hoyoverse would like to animate dialogue sections like this lol... It's just a bunch of extra work and the fact that it would take more memory
@@itriyumpretty much, Hoyo is more than capable of producing animations of this quality and higher if they really wanted to but dont which is odd considering that ZZZ is gonna have the highest quality animations of any mobile game. I feel like getting two or five extra people to work on the animations wont slow down anything tbh. I think going all out for story cutscenes that come out every like 2 months is not asking for too much.
@@itriyum would, but couldn't. It might not look like much, but FYI, the size difference between the two scenes shown above is massive (up from 10 to 50 times higher, depending on how they program the commands). It's a really good idea, but you need to remember that at its core, HI3, Genshin and HSR are "a game" before anything. It's simply wise for them to conserve size for future gameplay. Because knowing hoyo games, it's always better to play safe and cut corners (i mean...look at genshin's size). And if you still want zannir-like animations for those games...well, zannir is here :/
@@azureknight729 not every cutscene in ZZZ is animated lol. you are going to be shocked a lot of the dialogues in ZZZ are the same as the original HSR one. It just so happens they added a lot for ZZZ because it seems like they won't be focusing to much on large dialogues. and more into fight scenes. if anything it just means less content on ZZZ on the story side I suppose. because the animated cutscenes in HSR and genshin are Seperated by long story dialogues in between each cutscene. now ZZZ just makes it seem like every scene is Animated because they cut the story short because that's how the Game should be. fast paced fun fight battle game.
1:56 I actually really apprieciated the leaned back; behind Acheron's back camera by Hoyo here. Yea, it gives less "facial expression" but it allows imagination to kick in and builds tension, empowering next upcoming sentence. By making Welt push towards Acheron it added more agression, which already was pretty bold play by Welt with threat alone.
This cold, calculative encounter was just pure cold. Of course the guy who literally crossed into another dimension confronts an Emanator of Nihility alone.
It's the same dimension. His earth is in the galaxy, but not connected like the rest of space faring people cause the trailblazer didn't make a pathway to it.
@@NameHolderEQ no you misunderstand.This isn't a multiverse,it's a big universe.On the imaginary tree,the different leaves or worlds are star systems or planets, surrounded by a layer of imaginary energy.The astral express could traverse thru these barriers of imaginary energy and created the star rail, connecting worlds.@homulabs has a few videos on it
@@heppelhopv2 I'm saying that there isn't a concrete evidence to support if Earth is in HSR universe or in multiverse. Theory suggesting they are in same universe takes the imaginary tree approach and considers planets or Solar system as leaves. Which is supported by Herta having both wind glider and Himeko's sword's shards. While we know that HI3 and GGz both are parallel universes not different planets. And despite there being Shards of Himeko's sword no one knows about earth in HSR universe. Considering Herta she'd have known about earth as she is a genius under Nous. The only way we can confirm either is when we encounter either Sugars or sky people. As those are the only beyond the stars entities we have that'd explain the relationship btw all hoyo games.
@@MidnightNachos they only care is cutscenes and animations skill than interacting npc/characters with extra steps. Like Wuthering waves has more animation when interacting with NPC with more movements and expression.
@@TraiLBlazeR940 still the difference between it feeling meh on release and awful in a few years or it actually aging well, holding back a game for the phone storage of the time is lame as hell. and besides it could be an optional thing
I love the small details. The little flick of eyes down to where Welt's cane would be stowed, or held when she mentions is, really adds an extra little 'hit'.
I like your animation a lot, the little movements especially can add a lot of nuance to the words they say. It adds more impact, helps give the dialogue more weight and I can't pry my eyes away from the screen. That's not all, the sound effects and camera angles really set the tone too. Well done bro
As much as i’d love for the game to have such animations like you do, especially for conversations like this, it’s just not feasible. Which is perhaps a good thing as well cause we get to discover talent like yours. I hope you continue to grow and make more of these animations 🎉
in all honesty this is exactly what i wish for the game even getting closer to this would be amazing and its hard to say its not feasible when they make as much money as they do they 100% could the only reason it wouldn't be feasible is they don't want to put more money into the game than they need to as the game is already doing incredibly well why spend more money on the game that they don't need to. yes it wouldn't be cheap but it wouldn't be that expensive and realistically they don't need to use said level of animation for all dialogue just use it more often and on more important conversations for example although ofc if all dialogue was like that it would be amazing. (my personal opinion is that we need to be critical about games putting in the bare minimum unless that is what we want to be playing this company makes more money than the vast majority of other game companies we cannot treat them like some indie devs who are doing their best with what they have hoyo has the money and ability to make their games better so there is no excuse for them not to other than plain and simply not wanting to put in that effort and money (greed)) genuinely i believe the game would be so much more enjoyable with just a bit better camera angles changes as well as expressions/animations for the characters again it doesn't have to be just like this even closer to this would be SO helpful. and i want to make it clear that i am not hating on the game i am being critical of the game i play and enjoy the game in its current state and its because of this i would love if the game was able to actually reach the potential that i know it could. (sorry for rant wasn't trying to be arguing with you i just feel a bit strongly about it with the wish for it to be better)
@@itsuhMIYA oh what i meant about not being feasible is not the animations itself, but the game’s size. If they made animations like this all the time, most devices wouldn’t be able to handle it.
Welt is THE man! We have characters going through or beginning their journey, but then you have Welt, who's already been on the entire Honkai impact 3rd journey and more. Welt is king, and a force to be reckoned with. We have seen how far he will go to protect things he holds dear to him; and not even an Emanator or Hercher can stand in his way of that.
A bit of criticism for Acheron animations. She got too lively. You know she's kinda suppresed when her blade and thus her fulll identity are hidden, so for that reason i think that some actions could be made more "lazy" way like she appeared in original cutscene. Like those little details: as welt starts talking about annihilation gang, Mei put her eyes down closing them a bit because memories are illusive, she really tries to remember it, but it hard. Or she do not need to put arm on her belt on next frase, she is just half commited, her eyes are wandering for something, not really knowing what for, and it just happened to catch on fountaine. And all that I'm still in awe with the widening eyes on "black hole"(1:40). And welt in general, he is gorgeous. I just sharing my point of view that despite your great work, sometimes that stricted to pre-written standart poses worked better for "normal" Acheron
Its the small bits in this animation that are so good...the slight nods, the eyebrows, the smirks and grimaces. Penacony is a great story and your animation really captures the essence of it.
I love how every time anyone form the express starts trying to interrogate a character, they immediately default to “you’re traveling with a Stellaron why should I answer YOUR questions huh???”
It's not that Hoyo doesn't have the money or resources to do the same and add those finer details, they do. However, we should not forget that some of the dialogue may not line up precisely with the emotions and physical actions shown by the characters in the game because the game is dubbed in several languages. My guess would be it's in-sync with the Chinese. Overall, the broader animation and expression, for lack of better words, is more likely understood universally and will generally line up well in all four languages. For example, shaking your head "no," while it can be associated with many things, is fairly universal. Shrugging, however, is very much an American thing. All the small movements and micro-expressions, while likely subconscious and habitual, tend to be very deliberate with what we are doing, feeling and thinking, and how we are speaking. That being said, Zannir, your take on it is great and feels very emotive, natural, and alive. Great work indeed.
No bro its just simple they lazy about it fam this is a whole fan animation and its already better than the game animation by simple improving some things adding more details these companies sint shit at times
Maybe because i was an economic student at my core, but my reasoning behind their decision to refrain from making such animations are all from the business stand-point. Never really thought about the language-difference aspect that you pointed out. That's an eye opener for sure. (Also, I wouldn't bite into the bait if i were you, if you know what i mean).
Excellent facial animations and editing, but the compositions are better in the original. Watch how the lines in the background work for the scenes in the left one. And the position of the horizon line in wide shots. The Fan made one could do well with better composition. Yes this is criticism. But a good one, because this is in the belief that you'd continue improving!
This is so good! That's exactly what I feel that is missing in those parts, body language! (of course the shots helped too) On paper that does not sound so important, but such little details enhance the scene. Those arm and head movements adds adds so much more life and personality! Little sidenote: I really wish HSR implemented unique poses for each character too for moments like these, an example that we could use is Visual Novels, as they too heavily depend on text. Having different poses prevents these scenes to be boring
I can't speak about the newer content in Genshin, but the beginning content was likely hampered by the fact that China had a massive quarantine period because of covid, and as such severely decreased the efficiency of the cutscene animation staff. The animations might've also been hampered by them using a new animation engine for in-game cutscenes, which would be another learning curve on top of quarantine. That being said, it would be nice for new players if they went back and remade the Monstandt and Liyue cutscenes in the current style, or even just fix Venti and Diluc's necks so they don't look like they have scoliosis.
I wish hoyo made regular dialogues animated similar to this, or how they animate their cutscenes. I wish in genshin and hsr they had flowy movement like yours and they aint so stiff. I f regular dialogues were animated like the cutscenes, more human like like yours, it would be great, and maybe hoyo could make their dialogues less wordy. Your animation is rlly great. Keep going ❤ Ima\gine if bro got into proffesional 3d animation, it would be amazing.
Seeing this gives me unique observation, Like how some nihility characters have their left eye covered/almost covered with their hair bangs (include sampo)
Sadly animating every main scene like this in-game is impossible. There are too many and the many variations would bloat memory to insane degrees. But it's very nice to look at, good work :)
Also people need to remember this is a mobile game first and foremost. Putting all these resources will make that platform incompatible sooner than later
Its wild that when i watched Zannir ver separately i thought there were a lot of changes, but now seeing side by side i realize the changes are all subtle changed, crazy how much those added life to this conversation
I love the camera angle and the transitions, a more anime vibe. But I dislike the expression added to Acheron because she seems a bit too lively at some lines when she is meant to be always no expression to fit better to her character. But I guess there will be quite a lot of people like that change of expression too. Genuinely, Respectfully, just my opinion alright?
Bet welt was literally hurting a little knowing what path his Raiden Mei had taken and having an idea of what she had probably gone through or had to do.
Makes me wonder how long Acheron has been wandering as a Self Annihilator that she was able to tell that the cane Joachim has is not a mundane tool. Arguments can be made that his Cane has the same feeling as the Root Edict Edge which was Star Rail's version of Cosmic Harmony. And while Welt was able ro confirms that The Sugar's Alien Key bares a striking resemblance to the 2nd Herrscher, he has to experience a demonstration. Acheron on the other hand guessed it on first glance And as much of a fan of Impact 3rd, the Cane, sadly isn't going to do anything major to someone who's been exposed by Nuhility more than enough time and still alive and well
God I would love everything to be like this, but it's not feasible sadly. First it's gonna take sooooo much time to do all of that and it would probably add like 50gb of storage onto the game 💀
I actually prefer the original since it looks more nature. The animation is fine by itself but it looks very computerish and snappy. I guess it looks more anime than natural while original is more natural (Reminds me of gmod). Also the lighting is oversatured. Other than that well done. Pretty impressive!
That was so smooth hsr should hire u to do the scenes I feel like it would feel more interactive if there was more movement and body language instead of just there standing
The in game cutscenes in HSR are definitely better than in Genshin (and there are also more pre rendered cutscenes as far as I am aware), but it still uses so many lazy Pokemon tactics to avoid animating actual scenes. These developers have to have a budget after the immense success of Genshin Impact, right? USE IT!
i just loved how expressive they are!!! i truly wish hoyo put a little more of effort on those tiny scenes, like more expression (the way u did is perfect), more movement and poses bcs its really annoying seein the same old default poses all the time. u did a dreat job and I'm eager to see ur future works ❤️
Small little tweaks to the body and facial gestures. Small actions like Welt stepping towards Acheron threateningly, slight shifts of camera angles, which gave more focus on the faces. Really good work. I was just wondering why the colour seems a little washed in your edited version?
I think in your animation Acheron is more playful like Sparkle of sorts, so even if at times a model is more expressive it doesn't really convey Acheron's spirit, she's more chill you know. At least it's my impression.
I like the moment when he stepped closer, while threatining her. You can clearly see that he wanted to intimated her, she also got a little bit scared despite beeing so strong. I liked that. There was so much more authenticity in the animated scene. In the original you just heard the dialogue, which i would say, was "enough" to understand what was going on. But we humans dont just talk with words, we also "talk" with our body and facial expression. Hoyoverse shouldnt ignore Zannir's fanmade animation, little details like that can make an enormous difference. 🤔
Now come to think of it, getting closer when u bear the power of gravity doesn't seems a good move. Specially when u are actually close to close-quarter/melee combatant. Need to always expect a close-combatant not only expel in wielding their weapon but also barehand. So a thought like make urself closer so u can prevent them from pulling their weapon wont work. Even if u catch their first movement, u wont be able to stand their power. Thats likely the reason in original version Welt kept the distances Tho i can understand, the intention of getting welt closer is to make it more intimidating. Just blabling here lmao..
character's expressions aside (they're so good and i can't imagine the pain of doing the lipsync), yours was so much more cinematic and the framing actually made sense! i was frustrated when i played it in-game, Acheron's reveal was kinda ruined...
I’m surprised that you didn’t include the part where Acheron asks Welt if the Trailblazer was alright. The fact that she cares about us tells me that we were either part of her life in the past, or we reminded her of someone she once knew?
![[Fanmade Animation] Honkai: Star Rail - Feixiao vs Jingyuan](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/z-6YgnOucQQ/mqdefault.jpg)
I still can’t get over the “gravitational disintegration” line. It goes so hard.
Don't forget his famous line: "KNEEL!"
Order and Reason, not the chaos of the void, shall reign here today!!
Not as hard as me as I nerded out while they were talking 😩
I can't wait for Correy Landis to say "Kneel." Ngl 😭 just hoping that my delulu will come true
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The fact that both of them dance around their shared and not so shared past is amusing. Welt does know her name, and is testing her on if he can trust her like he can with his version of Mei. Acheron makes a very Mei like answer that she is abiding by the final request of a loved one and can not simply describe her journey in a few words, Welt also knows this. The animation helps sell this even more, they have this vague familiarity with each other but don't actually come from the same place. Izumo is not the Earth Welt knows, and Welt isn't the First Sovereign that Acheron knows, but they know each other enough that Acheron knows that Welt won't attack her, and with her words and actions, Welt knows that Acheron isn't the person he's looking for. Considering what we learned about Izumo, it sounds like unfortunately Acheron at some point saw her Welt die or had to kill him herself to forge Origin. If only Welt could tell her that in one world, on one cycle, happiness happened and that she could find it too, but I doubt the woman who's swung her sword at an Aeon would listen to that.
“You’re not you when you’re depressed, Acheron.”
“Here, have a Kiana.”
you explained it so well omfg
i thought she killed kiana? since it was ‘end’ and HoE is kiana kaslana but the varient of her that destroyed the world, so to get ‘origin’ she would’ve killed ‘end’ to save the world
@@4nastajia 'End' in that world was Kevin, or her version of Kevin. We don't know when her version of Kiana died, but it was some time before End and Origin was forged, judging from the Myriad Celestia and the later talks between Welt and Acheron. I'd personally put it at either Domination or Binding that Kiana'd die.
@@Izbiski_ If there was a kiana, do remember that kiana is kinda the female iteration of kevin. There is a lot of possibilities and even then it could probably be none of them, there is a chance both of them existed, maybe the special person was not a kiana but an elysia. So on, and so forth. We can only speculate until her backstory is shown.
In game version is the final product, Zannir’s version is just a revised smoother version of the original if the game ever gets a “remastered” just like games like the modern warfare series
mw1 the best
Hoyoverse and COD never expect you put those two tgt
it really does feel like a cutscene for "Remastered" games
Honkai Star Rail: Director's Cut.
Different camera angle and little gesture make quite difference
Imagine all of story are like this, im just gonna sit there and eat my popcorn and let the story goes auto😂
..if you were able to download 200GB of game with prebaked cutscenes, then why not
@@mad_engineer3254yup.That’s what people don’t realise.Want that and this but don’t think about the amount of storage that’s gonna cost and resources from hoyo that can be used for better gamemodes and such
Hi3 takes so much storage and they don’t even have truly animated dialogues.If they did no doubt game would take 5-10x more storage
@@mad_engineer3254 I would take that over the current experience.
@@mad_engineer3254 yeah, why not, it is a welcome edition
@@NeoStarImpact You are richer than me to afford a phone that can store a 200gb game.
Your animation adds a lot of life, but this helps put into perspective how much genshin seems to be missing.
Yeahh geshin kinda lack on the facial expression and camera angles shots. HSR is way better in those terms...
I was pleasantly surprised by Arlecchino's story quest. The camera angles and especially the animations on Arlecchino herself made everything seem more expressive than usual.
Hopefully, Genshin will keep up that level of quality and keep learning from HSR.
@@greenssus9779 Don't forget about lip movement. Damn, I'm so annoyed when the characters still talking even though their lip already stop.
@@mistman_161 oooohh I didnt play it yet i'm doing this
@@greenssus9779 You surely haven't played Genshin recently, since late Sumeru to all of Fontaine they have improved in the dialogue sections, new animations, sound effects and a lot of camera angles.
Imagine if you were to work at Hoyoverse. The amount of joy you'd bring to the community with these interactions being animated
I mean its funny to think that nobody at hoyoverse would like to animate dialogue sections like this lol... It's just a bunch of extra work and the fact that it would take more memory
Ungrateful fans will still hate on them for their failed Gacha pulls.
@@itriyumpretty much, Hoyo is more than capable of producing animations of this quality and higher if they really wanted to but dont which is odd considering that ZZZ is gonna have the highest quality animations of any mobile game. I feel like getting two or five extra people to work on the animations wont slow down anything tbh. I think going all out for story cutscenes that come out every like 2 months is not asking for too much.
@@itriyum would, but couldn't. It might not look like much, but FYI, the size difference between the two scenes shown above is massive (up from 10 to 50 times higher, depending on how they program the commands).
It's a really good idea, but you need to remember that at its core, HI3, Genshin and HSR are "a game" before anything. It's simply wise for them to conserve size for future gameplay.
Because knowing hoyo games, it's always better to play safe and cut corners (i mean...look at genshin's size).
And if you still want zannir-like animations for those games...well, zannir is here :/
@@azureknight729 not every cutscene in ZZZ is animated lol.
you are going to be shocked a lot of the dialogues in ZZZ are the same as the original HSR one.
It just so happens they added a lot for ZZZ because it seems like they won't be focusing to much on large dialogues. and more into fight scenes.
if anything it just means less content on ZZZ on the story side I suppose. because the animated cutscenes in HSR and genshin are Seperated by long story dialogues in between each cutscene. now ZZZ just makes it seem like every scene is Animated because they cut the story short because that's how the Game should be. fast paced fun fight battle game.
1:56 I actually really apprieciated the leaned back; behind Acheron's back camera by Hoyo here. Yea, it gives less "facial expression" but it allows imagination to kick in and builds tension, empowering next upcoming sentence.
By making Welt push towards Acheron it added more agression, which already was pretty bold play by Welt with threat alone.
Well, Welt knows three girls who could easily kick Acheron's sexy ass if she ever tries to hurt Welt, so..... Heh
This cold, calculative encounter was just pure cold. Of course the guy who literally crossed into another dimension confronts an Emanator of Nihility alone.
One who peered into the black hole vs a person capable of creating blackholes
It's the same dimension.
His earth is in the galaxy, but not connected like the rest of space faring people cause the trailblazer didn't make a pathway to it.
@@Sprite141 not really it's currently not known that earth even exists in HSR universe.
@@NameHolderEQ no you misunderstand.This isn't a multiverse,it's a big universe.On the imaginary tree,the different leaves or worlds are star systems or planets, surrounded by a layer of imaginary energy.The astral express could traverse thru these barriers of imaginary energy and created the star rail, connecting worlds.@homulabs has a few videos on it
@@heppelhopv2 I'm saying that there isn't a concrete evidence to support if Earth is in HSR universe or in multiverse.
Theory suggesting they are in same universe takes the imaginary tree approach and considers planets or Solar system as leaves. Which is supported by Herta having both wind glider and Himeko's sword's shards.
While we know that HI3 and GGz both are parallel universes not different planets. And despite there being Shards of Himeko's sword no one knows about earth in HSR universe. Considering Herta she'd have known about earth as she is a genius under Nous.
The only way we can confirm either is when we encounter either Sugars or sky people. As those are the only beyond the stars entities we have that'd explain the relationship btw all hoyo games.
I'm always going to find Zannir's animation better due do them characters move and interact lively
Ya that will be cost another MB/GB to download those extra scene
@@TraiLBlazeR940 or they could actually animate it
@@MidnightNachos nah its better that way to animate simple and cheap that way so that they can save more storage specially mobile phones.
@@MidnightNachos they only care is cutscenes and animations skill than interacting npc/characters with extra steps. Like Wuthering waves has more animation when interacting with NPC with more movements and expression.
@@TraiLBlazeR940 still the difference between it feeling meh on release and awful in a few years or it actually aging well, holding back a game for the phone storage of the time is lame as hell. and besides it could be an optional thing
1:20 Genius move Zannir
Your Version is wayyy expressive. I love it 😊
I love the small details. The little flick of eyes down to where Welt's cane would be stowed, or held when she mentions is, really adds an extra little 'hit'.
Never realised how much more interesting it is with dynamic camera angles and movement
I like your animation a lot, the little movements especially can add a lot of nuance to the words they say. It adds more impact, helps give the dialogue more weight and I can't pry my eyes away from the screen.
That's not all, the sound effects and camera angles really set the tone too.
Well done bro
Zannir is an entire animation team by HIM-self
Man, that subtle gesture and facial expressions really adds the depth of their conversation
As much as i’d love for the game to have such animations like you do, especially for conversations like this, it’s just not feasible. Which is perhaps a good thing as well cause we get to discover talent like yours. I hope you continue to grow and make more of these animations 🎉
in all honesty this is exactly what i wish for the game even getting closer to this would be amazing and its hard to say its not feasible when they make as much money as they do they 100% could the only reason it wouldn't be feasible is they don't want to put more money into the game than they need to as the game is already doing incredibly well why spend more money on the game that they don't need to. yes it wouldn't be cheap but it wouldn't be that expensive and realistically they don't need to use said level of animation for all dialogue just use it more often and on more important conversations for example although ofc if all dialogue was like that it would be amazing. (my personal opinion is that we need to be critical about games putting in the bare minimum unless that is what we want to be playing this company makes more money than the vast majority of other game companies we cannot treat them like some indie devs who are doing their best with what they have hoyo has the money and ability to make their games better so there is no excuse for them not to other than plain and simply not wanting to put in that effort and money (greed))
genuinely i believe the game would be so much more enjoyable with just a bit better camera angles changes as well as expressions/animations for the characters again it doesn't have to be just like this even closer to this would be SO helpful. and i want to make it clear that i am not hating on the game i am being critical of the game i play and enjoy the game in its current state and its because of this i would love if the game was able to actually reach the potential that i know it could.
(sorry for rant wasn't trying to be arguing with you i just feel a bit strongly about it with the wish for it to be better)
@@itsuhMIYA oh what i meant about not being feasible is not the animations itself, but the game’s size. If they made animations like this all the time, most devices wouldn’t be able to handle it.
hmmm maybe i don't actually know how much it would affect file size apologies then for the completely unrelated comment
Welt is THE man! We have characters going through or beginning their journey, but then you have Welt, who's already been on the entire Honkai impact 3rd journey and more. Welt is king, and a force to be reckoned with. We have seen how far he will go to protect things he holds dear to him; and not even an Emanator or Hercher can stand in his way of that.
A bit of criticism for Acheron animations.
She got too lively. You know she's kinda suppresed when her blade and thus her fulll identity are hidden, so for that reason i think that some actions could be made more "lazy" way like she appeared in original cutscene. Like those little details: as welt starts talking about annihilation gang, Mei put her eyes down closing them a bit because memories are illusive, she really tries to remember it, but it hard. Or she do not need to put arm on her belt on next frase, she is just half commited, her eyes are wandering for something, not really knowing what for, and it just happened to catch on fountaine. And all that
I'm still in awe with the widening eyes on "black hole"(1:40). And welt in general, he is gorgeous. I just sharing my point of view that despite your great work, sometimes that stricted to pre-written standart poses worked better for "normal" Acheron
it's amazing how expressive your animations are. Imagine both of these games had your level, people would way less ask for a skip button
SO MUCH LOVE! Acheron's smug smile and the head twist or upwards nod! So much DEPTH!!!!
Its the small bits in this animation that are so good...the slight nods, the eyebrows, the smirks and grimaces. Penacony is a great story and your animation really captures the essence of it.
I love how every time anyone form the express starts trying to interrogate a character, they immediately default to “you’re traveling with a Stellaron why should I answer YOUR questions huh???”
This is straight up the best dialogue in the whole game. I hope this quality continues for story telling.
the animation is just so good!!!! It literally feels like a cutscene!!
Another Zannir masterpiece
As usual the animation is smooth a feel alive
Also this made two of my favorites charcters interact 🎉
This scene is directed and animated like an anime scene and i LOVE IT
The gravitational disintegration line is so much colder. This goes so fucking hard
It's not that Hoyo doesn't have the money or resources to do the same and add those finer details, they do. However, we should not forget that some of the dialogue may not line up precisely with the emotions and physical actions shown by the characters in the game because the game is dubbed in several languages. My guess would be it's in-sync with the Chinese.
Overall, the broader animation and expression, for lack of better words, is more likely understood universally and will generally line up well in all four languages. For example, shaking your head "no," while it can be associated with many things, is fairly universal. Shrugging, however, is very much an American thing.
All the small movements and micro-expressions, while likely subconscious and habitual, tend to be very deliberate with what we are doing, feeling and thinking, and how we are speaking.
That being said, Zannir, your take on it is great and feels very emotive, natural, and alive. Great work indeed.
No bro its just simple they lazy about it fam this is a whole fan animation and its already better than the game animation by simple improving some things adding more details these companies sint shit at times
Maybe because i was an economic student at my core, but my reasoning behind their decision to refrain from making such animations are all from the business stand-point. Never really thought about the language-difference aspect that you pointed out. That's an eye opener for sure.
(Also, I wouldn't bite into the bait if i were you, if you know what i mean).
Not to mention the size of the game will be bigger if they added that
@@YaboiDie who asked u?
@@YaboiDie Oh how easy it is to call people who do this for a living lazer
Excellent facial animations and editing, but the compositions are better in the original. Watch how the lines in the background work for the scenes in the left one. And the position of the horizon line in wide shots.
The Fan made one could do well with better composition.
Yes this is criticism. But a good one, because this is in the belief that you'd continue improving!
This is so good! That's exactly what I feel that is missing in those parts, body language! (of course the shots helped too)
On paper that does not sound so important, but such little details enhance the scene.
Those arm and head movements adds adds so much more life and personality!
Little sidenote: I really wish HSR implemented unique poses for each character too for moments like these, an example that we could use is Visual Novels, as they too heavily depend on text. Having different poses prevents these scenes to be boring
Dude, if they just started to call each other by name, it'd be hilarious. starts the convo with "joachim", "mei"
In Genshin one of these kind of videos would be a night and day difference. But with HSR it’s just an added layer of polish and that is wild to me.
I can't speak about the newer content in Genshin, but the beginning content was likely hampered by the fact that China had a massive quarantine period because of covid, and as such severely decreased the efficiency of the cutscene animation staff. The animations might've also been hampered by them using a new animation engine for in-game cutscenes, which would be another learning curve on top of quarantine.
That being said, it would be nice for new players if they went back and remade the Monstandt and Liyue cutscenes in the current style, or even just fix Venti and Diluc's necks so they don't look like they have scoliosis.
Why mention Genshin?
@@naz8972 why not?
Genshin's tech is 4 years old now.
If HSR couldn't show a better animation tech from a 4 year old game, it wouldn't mean well for the game.
0:18 wait was she flirting
Not sure but that line made me giggle
This is really well done. Animation really comes down to the devil in the details and I think you nailed it, at least in my opinion.
The micro expressions are so good! Great work! 👍
Honestly adds a surprising amount to the voice acting, makes me realise how good they both are
I wish hoyo made regular dialogues animated similar to this, or how they animate their cutscenes. I wish in genshin and hsr they had flowy movement like yours and they aint so stiff. I f regular dialogues were animated like the cutscenes, more human like like yours, it would be great, and maybe hoyo could make their dialogues less wordy. Your animation is rlly great. Keep going ❤
Ima\gine if bro got into proffesional 3d animation, it would be amazing.
Such a cold conversation there
God this scene was so chilling when I first saw it. I REALLY hope we actually get to see Welt in action for real in Amphoreus in 3.0.
Seeing this gives me unique observation,
Like how some nihility characters have their left eye covered/almost covered with their hair bangs (include sampo)
Such an amazing work!
i really love how all the Mei in all universes is very intuitive and analytical when serious
Sadly animating every main scene like this in-game is impossible. There are too many and the many variations would bloat memory to insane degrees. But it's very nice to look at, good work :)
Also people need to remember this is a mobile game first and foremost. Putting all these resources will make that platform incompatible sooner than later
@@MegaDuke4life da fuck it ain't
@@Malix-Pikerman ......you saying Hoyo games are not designed with mobile in mind?
@@MegaDuke4life you can barely play any of their games on mobile as it is
I can play genshin with a four-year-old craptop. It's quite easy to play with a trash device, actually.@@Malix-Pikerman
the fan animation is SO MUCH better, i wish they had this quality in every scene in the game
Its wild that when i watched Zannir ver separately i thought there were a lot of changes, but now seeing side by side i realize the changes are all subtle changed, crazy how much those added life to this conversation
ah yes time to buy a new phone for the extra detailed animations
The dialogue is much more palatable when the animations have some life to them.
The best part of the mision, honkai impact 3 fans only know the true of this scene
34 GB on my tablet and your animation looks so more more cool, so much talent
I love this scene, and this animation makes it even better, I'd watch a whole HSR animated movie
Just the sutil animation maks this such a suspenseful team.
this animation more expressive than the actual game
welt : gonna continue what dear otto left, not gonna lie becoming impostor.
Damn this is so cool! Slap some sub titles on it and call it official and I would believe it.
Welt threatening Acheron never fails to make me laugh🤣
Why tho?
Fan made animation of zannir makes it look like a anime 🗿👍
Zannir did little things which went a long way to build up to the “gravitational disintegration” line. It’s all about the details!
if we had this quality in world quests i wouldn't just be doing them for the primos ill tell you what
I love the camera angle and the transitions, a more anime vibe.
But I dislike the expression added to Acheron because she seems a bit too lively at some lines when she is meant to be always no expression to fit better to her character.
But I guess there will be quite a lot of people like that change of expression too.
Genuinely, Respectfully, just my opinion alright?
Bet welt was literally hurting a little knowing what path his Raiden Mei had taken and having an idea of what she had probably gone through or had to do.
This fan animation is amazing.
The fan made part is how I remembered playing it
i guess there's a reason why HSR don't use that much animation on a dialogue...it would be a nightmare for our storage
Honestly, the "gravitational disintegration" line is an intellectual equivalent to mess around and find out, I vibe with it.
Makes me wonder how long Acheron has been wandering as a Self Annihilator that she was able to tell that the cane Joachim has is not a mundane tool. Arguments can be made that his Cane has the same feeling as the Root Edict Edge which was Star Rail's version of Cosmic Harmony. And while Welt was able ro confirms that The Sugar's Alien Key bares a striking resemblance to the 2nd Herrscher, he has to experience a demonstration. Acheron on the other hand guessed it on first glance
And as much of a fan of Impact 3rd, the Cane, sadly isn't going to do anything major to someone who's been exposed by Nuhility more than enough time and still alive and well
zannir gotten so GOOOOOOD over the years uumfh.
This is truly an amazing piece of work! I feel like I'm watching a drama 😎
We all can see how small details can have a big impact.
God I would love everything to be like this, but it's not feasible sadly. First it's gonna take sooooo much time to do all of that and it would probably add like 50gb of storage onto the game 💀
A few people here are forgetting that if EVERY (even if only main story quest) dialogue were animated the game size would like double
You break the 180 at the end but still AMAZING!
The main thing which is different is the brightness
I actually prefer the original since it looks more nature. The animation is fine by itself but it looks very computerish and snappy. I guess it looks more anime than natural while original is more natural (Reminds me of gmod). Also the lighting is oversatured. Other than that well done. Pretty impressive!
That was so smooth hsr should hire u to do the scenes
I feel like it would feel more interactive if there was more movement and body language instead of just there standing
A lot more life in your version. It's the small things that add up
the in game scene has a few things i like more, but so does the fan made scene i want the best of both worlds in these cutscenes
They really could learn a ton from you. So much better it feels. ❤❤❤
The in game cutscenes in HSR are definitely better than in Genshin (and there are also more pre rendered cutscenes as far as I am aware), but it still uses so many lazy Pokemon tactics to avoid animating actual scenes.
These developers have to have a budget after the immense success of Genshin Impact, right? USE IT!
Zannir you really ate with this
i just loved how expressive they are!!! i truly wish hoyo put a little more of effort on those tiny scenes, like more expression (the way u did is perfect), more movement and poses bcs its really annoying seein the same old default poses all the time. u did a dreat job and I'm eager to see ur future works ❤️
Small little tweaks to the body and facial gestures. Small actions like Welt stepping towards Acheron threateningly, slight shifts of camera angles, which gave more focus on the faces. Really good work. I was just wondering why the colour seems a little washed in your edited version?
I think in your animation Acheron is more playful like Sparkle of sorts, so even if at times a model is more expressive it doesn't really convey Acheron's spirit, she's more chill you know. At least it's my impression.
I wish they would hire you and others to make the new ones and patch the old ones, it would make the cut scenes so much more enjoyable.
I like the moment when he stepped closer, while threatining her. You can clearly see that he wanted to intimated her, she also got a little bit scared despite beeing so strong. I liked that. There was so much more authenticity in the animated scene.
In the original you just heard the dialogue, which i would say, was "enough" to understand what was going on. But we humans dont just talk with words, we also "talk" with our body and facial expression. Hoyoverse shouldnt ignore Zannir's fanmade animation, little details like that can make an enormous difference. 🤔
Very good, this makes the original look like it was in a beta version.
This is content that we all love
Now come to think of it, getting closer when u bear the power of gravity doesn't seems a good move. Specially when u are actually close to close-quarter/melee combatant. Need to always expect a close-combatant not only expel in wielding their weapon but also barehand. So a thought like make urself closer so u can prevent them from pulling their weapon wont work. Even if u catch their first movement, u wont be able to stand their power. Thats likely the reason in original version Welt kept the distances
Tho i can understand, the intention of getting welt closer is to make it more intimidating.
Just blabling here lmao..
Joachim always does pulls his Black Hole when he's more than a feet away from his target
character's expressions aside (they're so good and i can't imagine the pain of doing the lipsync), yours was so much more cinematic and the framing actually made sense! i was frustrated when i played it in-game, Acheron's reveal was kinda ruined...
fanmade feels more vivid, so much more body language.
Smoother and more vivid animations definitely help the dialogues be more attention grabbing. I wish Hoyoverse considers revisiting their animations
As a traveler i confirm that hoyo needs to hire this guy 🗿
I’m surprised that you didn’t include the part where Acheron asks Welt if the Trailblazer was alright. The fact that she cares about us tells me that we were either part of her life in the past, or we reminded her of someone she once knew?
Such a huge improvement.
My reaction with the original: Damn, they're hot af
My reaction with the fanmade animation: *D a m n, t h e y ' r e h o t*
the ost goes crazy here
bro Fr is wish all maiun story cutscenes had this level of animation, its 100x times more immersive and seems like it should totally be doable for MHY
Seems like if Hoyoverse saw this maybe Zannir would have been recruited to develop their animation 😱
they should hire you ngl-
Like a great movie scene!! Well done!👍