Welt Talks about Kevin with Acheron (Cutscene) | Honkai Star Rail 2.1
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- Welt talks about Kevin with Acheron, clip taken from the Trailblaze Mission "Cat Among Pigeons"
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"That man...he WAS NEVER...a FAILURE." Welt standing on business and giving flowers no matter where he is.
broo i just commented on that quote - i have no idea why but that line hit me so hard
"Can we finally have a playable Kevin?"
Hoyo - "Best we can do is Caelus."
"why?!"
"Suffering builds character. What's the difference?"
There's only a brief moment where we could play Kebin and it's when he fought himself.
We had the Will of Stigmata for a tiny bit.
Nah, the MC is literally Otto Apocalypse.
After Adam controversy, this is the only answer
In case anyone was wondering, the background song is meant for Honkai Impact, it's called "For Kevin".
Thanks
I was fan boying when i heard kevin’s theme and welt mention him
he's the Icarus
THE WAY I STARTED SCREAMING WHEN IT PLAYED IN THE BACKGROUND
Thank you very much!
What Kevin did in the hi3 universe has never disappeared from Welt's memory, Kevin is truly an indomitable "hero"
A hero in a true sense and the strongest warrior of human kind. Herrschers don't count.
Dont forget about his trauma eith Otto
Kevin Kaslana went from a regular highschool kid to becoming Humanity's Greatest Hero and the Founder of the New Era and went on to even surpass the HoTE PE.
His birth was the greatest gift that Humanity could have ever recieved.
In my opinion the best gift humanity got was both his AND Elysia's birth
Elysia's sacrifice gave humanity a small fighting chance and Kevin was the only one with a will strong enough to secure that small chance of victory
Ofc I'm not saying other people in PE was not important it's just that, these 2 and Dr. MEI were the most important for humanity's victory
I really like that they used the Icarus and “why do birds fly” reference here (When Kevin was talking with the philosopher)
I'm sobbing 🪦
As someone who hasn't played Honkai Impact 3, learning about parts of the lore from their interactions, Acheron's backstory and other sources has truly been fascinating. I hope Welt gets explored more. I'm really interested to know how much his role expands based on his HI3 connection.
I'd highly recommend you play HI3, genuinely the best game story I've ever experienced.
But only if you have patience, as some chapters are _really_ boring
@@magnashake I've considered it but I don't feel like putting the time into yet another gacha game right now (I'm already accustomed to Genshin and Star Rail). Maybe later on. I do know the game's narrative is amazing though. I've seen much of the animated shorts for characters (Himeko, Otto, Kiana) and read the comments regarding their story/arcs.
@@phanindravaibhav3319 If you want to play Hi3 just for the story then fear not. You don't need to do any gacha as the story has you play as the characters that involved in the chapter you're playing through. I started it recently and was pleasantly surprised that I didn't need to pull and farm for characters just to do the story
Sunchaser , flamechaser.
Cloutchaser
@@etam8099 TikTokChaser
Trashcan-chaser
@@montealegreluis5983 aeonipple-chaser
Gemcahser
Unlike Otto. Kevin became a villain for the sake of humanity. He wanted humanity to surpass the Honkai. He wanted to make everyone happy and most of all, the ones who he truly cared for. He just went about it wrong
When Acheron mention "she ended that man's life" does that mean she kill her world's Kevin?
Yup
she did in fact transcend finality in her myriad celestia yeah
and remind you that if Kevin and Kiana is basically the same MC (only different in gender) they only made them different in HI3, but they we're originally the same person thus why Kevin reached finality and why there's dr. MEI. In conclusion, Kiana might not be in HSR storyline so yean, this is Mei that has no Kiana/kevin
@@uriel4290 We do have 2 "Bronyas"
@@tylosenpai6920 No, from Acheron world. Not da bronga from Belobog and Stellaron Hunter
At leasr in this exchange, Acheron acknowledges how strong Welt is, he really is old as he mostly leaves the heroics to the dumb trio (March, TB, and Dan Heng). At least that is how I interpret it
The Dumb Trio is a perfect name for the three.
Idk why people overrated welt i mean he is smart but stronger than most hsr character? No at his peak he can barely fight sirin and have to use backstab plan to defeat her and that is the only one strong enemy he won against well even tho it not a 1v1 cause welt teamup on sirin
@@peak407 I suggest you rewatch some lore of Welt. He's just a kind man and he only saw Sirin as a poor lost child and he got surprised by her escape. He was never a perfect vessel in the first place. There's even a bubble world where Welt was absolutely ruthless and massacre Sirin, stealing her power and becoming a hybrid between Void and Reason. A menace. Never underestimate the Star of Eden (his cane) It literally handle the stellaron outburst of Caelus/Stelle easily and knocked him/her out. He also use his gravitional singularity with a keen eye and smartly. He used it on Sirin to make her think the battle lasted 5 min or so when the time distortion was in reality like a hour or more. He's not the strongest, but don't get on his cunning bad side
@@peak407and? Welt is indeed stronger than most of hsr playable characters, not all, for now, the only I think stronger than welt is acheron, while jingliu/jingyuan only equal to him
@@siren4641 lol u know welt fanboy is crazy and blind they even said welt is far more stronger than Aeon and said herscher is stronger than archeron
Acheron said “I ended that man’s life alone”. That means she killed Kevin in her world Inzumo that was confirmed.
Yep, of course. After all herrscher in her world destroyed. There is only 2 sword remain. The Origin and The End. After she defeated The End, she got The Naught.
i think Acheron meant she killed the equivalent of Kevin, someone that embodied HI3's Kevin.
Meaning her world was unfortunate and welts world was fortunate. So, Acheron could be in reality Mei but a alternative. (Acheron looks similar to Mei but doesn't exactually look like her probably cause of hair style in front and eyes a bit different. But overall looks similar)
Yes, but the line is referencing how in HI3, Mei, Kiana, and Bronya, together along with the support of all their friends (the power of friendship!) defeated Kevin while in Inzumo Acheron was alone in her victory.
@@kamicokrolockprecisely why instead of the love and hope granted from the power of origin became naught after Acheron won the fight, she has no one to love or an end to look forward to.....And no kiana there either.
The thing about Ke🅱️in is that he doesn’t have the privilege to know what’s to come like Kiana. He is basically a sacrifice to ensure Kiana victory.
He did everything with all his power with all the fire moth organization, yet still fail in the end. He is a broken man that not only lose his wife, his friend and family but the world as a whole too. He is a broken hero
During Kiana’s time he has been break down so much he wants nothing more than to achieve the firemoth final plan to beat Honkai, no matter the cost or reason cause there’s nothing left for him.
But him and his colleagues/friends labored didn’t go waste, the new generation pick up where they left off to fight for how he once were. Ke🅱️in never knew that could be achieved… again. But it did, rip Kevin go be with you MEI you deserve the rest. Kiana and her friends will be your new successor as the defender for the beauty of the world.
A broken man sustained by determination alone
💔💔
"And that man... He was NEVER a failure."
that line hit me hard ngl
Oh that makes sense. Sunchaser = Flamechaser
This story has already painfully reminded me of Elysian realm.
Kevin flew to the sun to create a path for others to go beyond the sun
Kevin, a man so literally cold, he needs to hold a sun in a sword to live normally
Bruh, that's so funny out of context.
But yeah, that guy was way out of the power scaling in HI3.
@@Smiley-gy6yopower scaling and logic goes out of the window whenever Kevin shows up. Herrschers are all world enders leveling a continent just by awakening and this guy managed to beat some of them even before becoming a MANTIS. After being a MANTIS, bro straight up one-shots them that Honkai got pissed off and spawned their avatar on Earth
@@amadeus8343Kevin, Elysia, Kalpas was special. These 3 born strong and have talent for fighting. They can kill herrscher as human. they basically a monster even Honkai afraid of them don't you think?
Hi3 and Hsr really are connected huh
Only through welt currently
because welt in there. if not the only see there its just be refference or homage.
It's the same universe. It's always been connected.
@@xetren8979 parallel universe so not really same universe
@@Achilles129but it's all connected through the Imaginary Tree (I think). I do wonder if this means that Luocha is this world's Otto but he didn't have his own Kaslana.
That fucking music oh my god
Acheron, and Welt, two very similar powerful individuals, yet, two with VERY differing pasts, and philosophical worldviews. Welt's story, back in his home world, tells the tale of a hero's legacy, and how he taught the lesson of how POWERFUL hope can be in the face of hardship. While Acheron's story, tells a tale of despair, and loss, how insignificant, and meaningless everything can be in the face of adversity. Both of their stories speak POWERFUL messages, and touch upon EQUALLY powerful lessons. However, as I like Welt's side of the story, and his worldview perspective on things, especially that man (aka Kevin) that he's referring to back in his world, I feel as though, that one that hasn't experienced, let alone gone through the harsh reality of what it means to truly lose EVERYTHING, let alone feel TRUE despair, the complete absence of hope, can NEVER truly understand what it means to possess REAL hope, let alone TRUE strength, in the face of overcoming challenges that are difficult to overcome, let alone accept. For Welt has never experienced the same kind of hardship Acheron has gone through for him to hold onto any kind of, "hope", when all was lost. Of course, Welt never experienced that same kind of reality that Acheron did, so he can't speak, nor know what it must've been like to experience what it means to have any hope to live for in the first place.
P.S.
4:24 - 5:10 That last line that Acheron delivered before answering Welt's question captures her point BEAUTIFULLY. It completely DESTROYED Welt's naive philosophy, and perception on hope. And this is the reason why I absolutely LOVE the emotional depth of her character. It really does feel like Acheron was a survivor who has gone through the MOST hardship out of EVERYONE leading to her growth. Out of ALL the characters in Star Rail, thus far, nobody comes close to Acheron's character.
i think kevin also know that despair
@@marckjanloidcarilo7643 he definitely did after he went through, kinda broke me how he had to cross sword with fu hua too in the end, knowing she was the only other survivor from their era (not counting griseo and su since he didn't even get to meet them/acknowledge their survival)
In your last paragraph you say Acheron destroys Welt’s naive philosophy but I don’t understand why? She merely says that the end of the story is different and that ultimately she sees a void of nothing after reaching the metaphorical light where Welt sees new paths to new metaphorical lights building upon the foundations laid in the past by predecessors reaching previous lights. I don’t see either of them destroying each other’s philosophical beliefs here. Merely two interesting philosophical opinions and observations on reality by two people who have seemingly experienced a lot of what existence has to offer.
@@ozone8839 Apparently you didn't understood the meaning of Acheron's message, let alone the weight behind her words in what they actually mean. What Welt believes in according to Acheron's view is only but an illusion, a temporary fleeting moment of self-reassurance for ourselves, a denial to believe in that that there will forever be light (aka hope) at the end of the tunnel. But that's where he's wrong. For light is akin to that of a flickering candlelit flame, soon, even too, its finite flame will perish. As all things in life naturally will. The hope Welt believes in for humanity throughout his analogy is only a temporary, as well as it is a shortsighted philosophical view. There's nothing inherently special beyond, "reaching new heights", across the vast skies, and horizons of the sun (aka light), when only to find that nothingness is what greets us, by the end of it all. For nothingness is what predates, as well as what EVERYTHING returns back to, in the end. But in the short moments that you have, you learn to make use of it. Before it's all gone, and reduced to nothing.
@@ozone8839 Apparently you didn't understood the meaning of Acheron's message, let alone the weight behind her words in what they actually mean. What Welt believes in according to Acheron's view is only but an illusion, a temporary fleeting moment of self-reassurance for ourselves, a denial to believe in that that there will forever be light (aka hope) at the end of the tunnel. But that's where he's wrong. For light is akin to that of a flickering candlelit flame, soon, even too, its finite flame will perish. As all things in life naturally will. The hope Welt believes in for humanity throughout his analogy is only a temporary, as well as it is a shortsighted philosophical view. There's nothing inherently special beyond, "reaching new heights", across the vast skies, and horizons of the sun (aka light), when only to find that nothingness is what greets us, by the end of it all. For nothingness is what predates, as well as what EVERYTHING returns back to, in the end. But in the short moments that you have, you learn to make use of it. Before it's all gone, and reduced to nothing.
I thought he was speaking about otto, i started 3rd and after his meeting i fited role.
Otto ended his life as a villain, yet he made everyone as fools, his long lost dream was fulfilled... Only Bianka (I'll call her Kaslana) and Theresa have left words of his death being a good, yet twisted person... That's actually 'till Void Archives showed up and kidnapped Welt' adopted son xD
KEVIN
I haven't reached this part yet, but it makes me want to give Acheron a hug.
3:30 Inhales Intensely
my jaw dropped tbh
as someone that never played hi3 and only played hsr this made me wanna get into that ... crazy coz during thsi scene i so badly wanted to know what happened in hi3 and who the man was
kevin kaslana a hero
Kevin Kaslana is just a normal highschool student that became a god because he coincidentally fallen in love with a random chick that turned out to be a genius. He became a soldier fighting off the Honkai. Among the Flamechasers, he's ranked first with the codename, "Deliverance", and became the the most powerful warrior of the Previous Era.
This sounds random but imagine we have a Yae Variant in star rail verse.
So this just confirm that Izumo is just the same as Earth but got something much worse and that's stroding into IX's shadow.
It makes sense why Acheron asked if we’ve met somewhere Before, we look like Kevin it all adds up now
I expected he was talking about someone else
Only Kevin did Spiritual Adam
Does this music play in this actual scene, or is it edited from Honkai Impact?
No it played why?
@@lachede I wasn't sure if hoyoverse was musically referencing Kevin or if the UA-camr edited it to reference Kevin.
@@normalpair they did use Kevin's ost here yeah
@@lachede that's cool
I KNEW IT WAS ABT KEVIN
Midway through the end of Penacony I realized that... holy shit, this is just like what Kevin tried to do and they put it right under our nose with this dialogue. We even use the same method of convincing people to wake up
It's not exactly the same. The Project Stigma creates a situation that forces people to awaken Stigma. The Dream World is merely a place to comfort those who can't move forward (awaken Stigma) before they are devoured as part of Stigma. Those who can awaken Stigma will become survivors of the new human civilization.
Ena's Dream, on the other hand, is an ideal world, a paradise that helps people according to the idea of Penacony's boss.
Welt also mentions a playable weapon
At first i thought he was talking abt Siegfried
I just hope they at least fullfil Kevin final wishes. Make him a tombstone for Him and his world (Previous Era)
But so far they never show it. We never got to know if they even respect him enough to make him a tombstone
They did make one for Ana and Owl so i just hope they also do it for Kevin
Acheron really killed the humanity hero fr. Can we get Kevin variant here?
I was wondering who he was talking about, I'm also curious what acheron killing him means for this universe
Saved
He was talking about Kevin Kaslana, he was one of the Flamechasers to fight against Herreschers (basically Emanator power levelled beings in HI3). He lost his Mei and almost the entire Flamechasers
@@PROVENT_ANIMS So you mean kevin power scaling in hi3 doesn`t match aeon level right?
It unfortunately doesn't aeons are basically the ultimate gods in the HSR universe @@aloneft9300
@@aloneft9300 hes not aeon level, no
Damn, Acheron killed March 7th's father.
So this welt the same from HI3 universe ?
Yep, same guy.
It's the man himself, you can read the Manhua Alien Space (from HI3) for some background
I'm not updated regarding HI3 anymore, can someone tell me what happened to Kevin in the final battle? I sure hope that he didn't meet a bad end (if ever he died)... I love that man so much. He suffered long and so much.... Respect to that guy🔥
I mean, it's as is said here. He's ultimately dead but still got what he wanted in the end
Kevin knew that he was playing the villain. He lost to kiana in a final bat swinging battle and died. In the end, Earth was saved, Kevin was probably satisfied.
Kevin got what he wanted, you should see the scene where got reunited with dr MEI and the rest of the flamchasers after his last exchange with kiana
Mann...... Huge respect to that guy.... We love you Kebin
@@rahman11dit not exactly "reunited" more like dream. Have you ever heard when people is dying and they have one last dream or life flash before their eyes? That basically the same thing happened to Kevin as he's exhausted and dying, the blessing from Aponia that help protect his mind all this time for 50k years also broken and he be able to dream one last time. The one side that make him less human finally returned at last
So if you wonder why it not "reunited" and Kevin didn't exactly meet his lover. The game said "it's dream like" and in there young Hua, young Griseo that still alive and well in real world also in the dream
Mei and kevin created adam right?
Adam is the name of their child
'Spiritual Adam' is the result of Project STIGMA, not related to the test tube baby Dr. MEI created with both hers and Kevin's DNA while he was out fighting the HoTE.
Acheron is Kevin's Mei and Sakura's friend as she quotes her dialogues meaning that Kiana never existed in her Izuno world and that she and Kevin were left alone after the fall of the 13 swords when she talks to welt acheron knows that she lived a similar experience with kevin and the adam project but acheron and kevin hrs they failed to save the people and their friends and their planet Kevin white oni x acheron good bye :'(
For anyone who don't know there are 2 Mei in hi3 ,Previous era mei is kevin's lover and current era is the mc raiden mei
There are different Mei in HI3. Dr Mei and Raiden Mei. Dr Mei is Kevin lover and Raiden Mei is Kiana lover.
Gaaaaaah KEVIN WELT SIGFRIED I KALPAS SU I NEEDS THEM ALL
As a guy im fangirling for the bois
Also depression impact im never replaying honkai impact 3rd
Not gonna try and get those feelings again
Kosma got forgotten again 😭
Because they have to take off
Who's life did acheron end in the mission cat among pigeons
Basically her world's equivalent of Kevin (the man Welt was talking about).
@@phanindravaibhav3319 so is this other kevin her(acheron) enemy completely or did she have history with him like dr.mei had romantic history with hi3 kevin?
this is my only question regarding acheron........
@@ThatOneOddGuy I can't tell you for sure about that, I'm not a deep lore expert on HI3. I just know that she's meant to be a Raiden Mei that got the worst outcome, compared to her HI3 counterpart.
@@phanindravaibhav3319 what was the best outcome?
*correct me if I am wrong here : *
from what I know hi3 kev is kaslana ancestor but he is bad guy, so he tried to kill kiana for some reason then mei stopped him, I assume in hsr acheron could not.
to note in hi3 kev's normal time there was a dr.mei who looked like raiden mei.
now what I want to know is which acheron is mei since there are 2? dr.mei or raiden mei?
acheron said she had a kiana and killed a kevin which tells me she is raiden mei thats the one I'm looking for.
this conclusion seems to coincide with my pulls so I'll take it
@@ThatOneOddGuy By "worst outcome", I just mean that her story didn't fare as well as Raiden Mei's in HI3 (case in point, what you said about her Kiana probably not surviving and having to kill Kevin alone). I think the whole Dr. Mei or Raiden Mei thing is irrelevant in Acheron's case. All we're meant to understand is that she's a Mei-like variant in the HSR universe, with similar yet different stories/people (which is technically the case for most of the familiar HI3 characters in HSR). For all we know, there may not have been a 'Dr. Mei' in this universe. My point is don't look into it too much expecting the exact same stories/parallels.
This is literally just the story of Penacony as well. It's almost the exact same story.
Yea basically this is Moon and Finality but Shaoji write it
In HI3 Shaoji didn't write the Moon and Finality and IMO it a bad writing too
Yes, they have similar content, but what is different is that Ena's dream represents the boss's idea, while Project Stigma is a situation that forces people to move forward, it both helps and hurts humanity at the same time.
I THOUGHT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WELT JOYCE BYEEE 😭😭
Ok. No playable Kevin in HSR. Understood….
Sunday might be coming though, and he seems to have some similarities to Kevin
@@RaikaKoshiba650man who care about Sunday. He not Kevin 😔
That man is kevin but in hsr that is caelus because we dont have life we dont know about caelus's past everything you know kafka and welt told you is a lie actually we were killed by someone so long ago and that is acheron thats why we dont have any heart but stellaron 😢
Damnn explain please
For those saying Acheron beat the HI3rd equivalent of Kevin. Just Lol. You all clearly have 0 clue how powerful HI3 Kevin is. Its very likely "that man" she killed was weaker then HI3rd Kevin, as there is no proof he was as strong as HI3rds kevin.
Then may I ask, what proof do you have that he wasn't as strong as Hi3's Kevin?
Kevin from Earth isn't a higher dimensional being than Shiraga Oni from Izumo, so you can't outright claim one one is weaker than the other because they are the counterparts of each other
@@nothmm8582Kevin, is at least as strong as an Aeon if we're really using that "Hoyoverse is just a single universe" shit that was introduced by Hoyostans or whatever they were called. If Kevin from HSR is as strong as Kevin from HI3rd and Acheron managed to defeat him, it wouldn't make any sense at all for HSR's story because Acheron is just an emanator.
And also, if we're using that argument, Herrschers are at least on the level of emanators and Kevin one-shots them on a regular basis that his final form literally took 3 beings (Kiana, Mei, Bronya) on almost the same level as him to take him down. This guy throws moon-sized black holes like they're just volleyballs in his final battle. I don't care how strong Acheron is, but she ain't beating that one when her world got burnt to crisp by a black hole
@@nothmm8582 not Only that Hi3 Kevin has the Full Authority of Finality, he also has the Power of a lot of Honkai Beasts.
also, even if HSR Kevin has the Power of Finality, the actual Source of the Power is Different. HSR Kevin is either Weaker or Stronger. Depends on how Strong the Blades really is.
Take GGZ Hersschers for an Example.
Their Like Previous Era Hersschers of Hi3rd but on Steroids.
@@nothmm8582not to mention, The Power could actually be just Similar of Strength to Kiana before Getting The Full Authority.
Only 1% of Finality's Power
@nothmm8582 the proof is the fact acheron beat him. That's the proof that the Kevin she faced is a weaker version of himself. HI3 Kevin is OP.
HSR only players are sooooooooooooo clueless
We we never be able to play Kevin like come tf on. We get everyone in the universe plus their grandma and of for once playing as Kevin. Idgaf if you think I am glazing, but for once let us play the damn dude.