Why This Pantheon Hit Challenger 3 Times
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2018
- Pantheon is really easy and brain dead right? Well then why isn't every Pantheon player in Challenger like Keegun?
Pantheon isn't mechanically demanding, but You have a lot to think about with a champion like that.
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Things people learned from that: dont buy pink wards because gold
Theo B. Ult for minions because gold and exp
Don't ult an Alistar or Vayne >_>
Hard push first minion wave then slow push 2nd and 3rd. Then you can roam, buy items or gank. Golden rule.
i have to say one thing im not a main pantheon and i hate him but stfu ur probably garen main
The people watching don’t buy them anyway.
BMing is also essential to Pantheon's kit. Tilting the enemy alleviates 40% of his weaknesses late game
As a Teemo main, I fully agree with and endorse this tactic.
And the rest 60% of his weaknesses is trash players who can't end before stomped enemies get to lategame.
As a tryndamere main i like when i make lots of overagressive panth players cry... and yes, even BM them as well...
Works best on Teemo
u just lying to yourself xD if a pantheon player dies to a trynd he just sucks ass
DonghuaP:"Pantheon has no skillshots"
Me who started playing league a month ago:"Pardon me good sir?"
Gotta be confusing as shit xD
Would love to know how you're doing in League now, 10 months later
@@samtreharne4594 a year later, how is it?
New panth is an absolute chad
This video was released prior to the pantheon rework.
"Pantheon is a n-"
*Pantheon rework annouced*
HES A WHAT?!
he is not black smh
What’s wrong with being a nice person?
Comment section:
10% talking about the content of the video
90% about how hes wrong about spartans not being tacticians
Exactly. Spartans were not just physically trained, but also schooled in warfare mechanics and philosophies from a young age. They weren't just dumb brutes. They were the literal masters of war in their time.
Justin Eggebrecht Proving his point pretty well there :D
It was just that dumb of a thing to say.
@@3NRAG3 and that's only a myth my lad, but nice try
@@roastedmadadevlogs8800 its actually not. look up the research into the philosophies of spartan life. They were taught everything from hand to hand combat, to synchronization in large group warfare, to strategic advantages. The royalty were the only ones taught any sort of economics or statecraft. and it was usually very little
just in time for the minion aggro changes
thanks god for that
they shouldve made that changes a looooooong time ago, i mean playing against champs with spammable abilities without minions aggroing back is so frustrating to deal with
On one hand he will get more minion agro... on the other, he gains more minion control by throwing his spear and letting them safely come to him... hmmm
Vanja 404 it means point and click abilities like Pantheon Q will draw minion aggro now
HaasholdGaming :(
Pantheon rework announced
Keegun has left the chat.
Rework pantheon weaker than the old one
@@zackk9821 I’m not sure about that at least as of right now pantheon is pretty good
@@jackmama109 after keegun speak to them mutiply time or else he is useless and just fit for sp, by the way check the time
i have a honda civic.
this comment made me do soemthnig i rarely actualyl do when at privacy of my home. burst out in laughter. all alone. Well played sir
Mee too :D
I feel for you, man.
Planning to have one. It zippy enough for me.
I'm genuinely confused about the joke what's the joke?
Gangplank Mains: I spam Q unlimited times, you lose lane.
Pantheon: *Laughs* Hold my beer.
Good man.
Duane Doldrum hold my Spear*
difference between gp and panth tho is gp has canned pussy juice, a free(mana) stackable aoe damage and dont have to risk shit when ulting somewhere with his true global ult xd
@@dangdiggity9916 wtf
@@mlgbblade5221 sup
2:15 "Guarantees laning advantage in early game"
4:13 "Pantheon is an early to mid-game champ"
9:40 "Scales well into late game"
1:09 "He's a really shit champ"
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"scales well to late game"
Me: who told you these lies?
4:04
"Don't buy pink ward early game"
Most of people rejected his message
"He is not like a spartan..." 11:13
12/0/0 ok
@The HandProject *laughs in Romans*
So, he's not a barbarian, he's actually a true spartan
Karanthaneos
Pantheon was an average fighter, but a brilliant strategist
He has challenger macro, challenger game knowledge and knows the champions dynamics better than others.
Saved your 11 minutes.
Khons Hxb but y would i not want to watch donghuaP
It's the details the help people improve, not the summary. XD
BASSFZz oh shit I didn't know you played league. I watch your vids lol
I've been playing about a year now. I stopped recently but intend on getting back into. I have a personal challenge to master Evelynn, so I should probably get back to it one day soon. XD
Dong makes it much, much funnier. Like Sky William back then... sigh
...
Rip point and click pantheon, you were too pure for this dirty world
This was by far one of the most interesting videos you’ve made, mad props to Keegun he’s like a genius to listen to
the title souds like an ad you'll see on a porn site. "hit challenger on 3 different accounts using pantheon and these simple tricks"
Pro players hate him! Learn how one man grew a 7 inch dick I mean hit challenger with 3 simple tricks
toplaner hate him, Don't tell your jungler you are playing this champ
Tomer Dagen PornHuap
Doctors hate this man. Click to see how this man climbed to challenger in 3 weeks !
stfu mista
it hurts my heart after getting poked by 1000 spears in laningphase from a bad pantheon to see their mastery 7 emote
That means your laning phase goes on for at least 1 hour 6 minutes and 40 seconds (if none of you ever go back, you have infinite health and pantheon has infinite mana.) Correct me if im wrong.
you are right
Yes ofc you’re saying that bc you have a yas as your profile...
Steven Zheng this was sarcasm, my laning Phase vs pantheon consists of a ton of spears he throws on me . In this time he spamms his emote. The rest of the game he is clueless what to do because i didn't let him snowball me. The average pantheon is used to get easy kills then roam with it, what won't be possible for him if i inform my team that he is comming for them
I didn’t mean what I say too serious.whenever I play panth,only to counter yas, the yas always goes to all chat and gets toxic hence I was saying was more of a joke
In conclusion bronze pantheons suck and challenger pantheons are good. I learned so much.
Thank you so much Dong and Keegun!
So pantheon is like a loaf of bread. If the dough is bad, the final result is also bad.
Holy shit that analogy is godlike. You sir, deserve a medal.
Baker Pantheon sends his regards
Yes, a baker.
wow, even Gordon Ramsay would be impressed.
"He is not like a spartan he is like a tactician"
>Spartan Phalanxes were extremely advanced and required both teamwork and planning
>Spartans invented most marching formations still used today
Good video, informative as hell but that one line was pretty dumb.
there's always that one guy....
lucax tshotting Can confirm, my uncle marched for the US Army in Iraq.
lmao no one cares damn
I thought the same, I mean its ok if they are famous for being warriors but that doesn't mean they weren't one of the best tacticians
Internal Bleating wayyy too over analytical
*Me an individual doesn’t buy pinks one game after watching this video ganked 752 times.
*enemy jungle in chat “should have bought pinks”
Man I love this guys commentary
The secret is to go full AP Pantheon
9 people will be playing League, while you'll be playing darts.
dat moment when you watch nb3 and you try it and you fail
RoseGold that's why you shouldn't think because someone did it you can too immediately, don't try to do anything crazy without much experience otherwise you will most likely fail
Considering "spartans", as in warriors, were as much disciplined as they were strong, I'd say Keegun is way more similar in mindset to Pantheon than most braindead people who play him.
Edit: Many people have noted that real spartans were not, in fact, that much smarter or better at combat than any other civilization at their time. Thanks for the bit of insight, folks.
Agreed- "They disgrace the art of war."
I think he means warrior in that sense. a warrior focuses on his fight but a tactican focuses on the whole battle.
Well the spartan empire was doomed to fall, because they shunned scholars and traders because they deemed that those jobs werent fit for a spartan man. So i wouldnt say that they were smart at all :p
Sparta wasn't an empire dude get ur info right
romans
I think these kind of interview episodes would be great! They're probably hard to get because you need the pro player to agree with the interview, but it'd be great if you can pull it off. Great video as always!
Really helpful! I will definitely use this next time I am making a video with Pantheon.
Never teleported from school back home so fast
GMDNizzy I know this is complete bullshit
Ask Hashinshin
so inteeresting, lovved this vis! please more vids like this/chapms!! great work!
Dude, I love this video format. More of this.
I miss old Panth :(
He is the only player I know who uses the insta kill minion rune
Its very popular in Korea because people realized how much early pressure you can put by deleting a canon minion. I took them in game when the patch first dropped and deleted a whole super minion siege. You don't want it to get that far but if it does, they are a life saver lol.
I'm pretty sure you don't take it to use it on canon, but rather on ranged minions so you get bonus damage against the backline. That way his e can probably one shot the caster minions earlier than the normal.
Nah, they 100% use it on canon, cause if you get rid of the canon and go in for a trade, they are gonna get destroyed by your canon. If you use it on the canon, then clear the rest, you get a lot of time to go roam. I GUESS you could use it on the backline but it doesn't seem worth it since the backline minions are the easiest to kill. I watched some Korean replays and the smart way to use it is definitely on the canon. If you use all of them on the canon, thats 300 guaranteed gold, AND you would be possibly 1 shotting them for the rest of the game.
Nah you don't use it on ranged minions lol wtf. 99% cannon.
In_Vas_Por this, serios macro play
Man, finally someone gives this guy some recognition! I've been following his guides since s6 and boy oh boy he's fucking good!
Good Stuff and great interview. A+ work and really informational.
So simple content but high quality! :D
He has developed such a wrong profile for Spartans lol
its not wrong,spartans actaly was cunts ;)
historicly i mean
@@getsimked6754 Well they did stop the Persians from easily capturing all of Europe. It would be plenty of slavery years.
Amazing video, great style, thanks for the content.
This was really informative to know, thanks for the vid.
I love this vid make more videos with interviews with the players
"... kill the women and children" god thats why I love you Dong, you're pretty much the only league youtuber I know, that likes dark humor
That's not the League community, it's anything that even remotely resembles a community and has lot of people in it.
this was probably the least dark vid from dong
Ik, been watching him for quite a while now but I always love how random those comments of his come, like at the one side he is really objective and explains really good and in the next moment he is talking about killing women and children xD
Uberdanger? MagikarpUsedFly?
Gruckets They do it for memes, to joke around. Dong here does it for that "wow" shock factor.
This is the most researched league of legends I've watched in a long time. Fresh and entertaining. Good job!
Really appreciate this video. Pantheon otp trying to learn the micro and macro mechanics of the game and I know keegun is amazing so I will take this advice to heart. Earned yourself a sub =)
Wonder how he feels about the rework
It suck
do more videos like this
I really love that you heavily credit the people whose builds and playstyles you showcase. So much different from other youtubers who generate content by looking to take other people's builds/playstyles and show it off as their own.
I was wondering if the fast slow slow wave control works for Jayce too?
Interesting, I want to play panth now haha
i feel like that after every video like this, but then i try it, feed my ass off and suddenly that feeling is gone xD
Chizz co just don't first time this in ranked and ruin 4 people's time
Pantheon is a champion that requires a lot of research, rather than a lot of experience. It's like Dong said- braindead kit.
You want to pay attention to whether lanes leash, which requires you to understand jungle routes & matchups.
You should also look into the quantification of minion gold and xp, so as to maximize your minion control efficiency.
Knowing your buy thresholds is always important.
Conceptualizing lane responses to your ganks is an easy and important step that new Panths tend to ignore.
Pantheon is not a champion that can afford to misplay in teamfights, as his kit doesn't support tank items at all. This means that you'll have to have clear goals set out for your fights based on relative strengths.
Pantheon REQUIRES a cool head- he's a thinking champion who abuses calculation, rather than rote repetition. This means that you need to be calm and measured, so you really have to do the research to be regularly successful.
I support Dong Huap's video as a Panth main myself (gold 5). I'm sure there's plenty I missed- these were just some points that I thought might be helpful.
Its High Noon Your name reeks of McCree, you have no right to call anything trash my good sir
For a second I though it was a Gbay99's video
Same
The Spartans were calm and calculating they all stuck as a group and moved forward together
Great video man
Here after the rework
They should revert him 100% agreeable.
Imagine Kratos playing chess, here is your best Pantheon main
I enjoyed this video! Your videos are always well put toghether and informative! Could you do a video on the top Kindred player(thats my champ main) would love to see how you would do a video like that.
More vids like this, please!
Nah. He's the **only** pantheon that thinks like a Spartan.
The 300 were backed up by a couple thousand other Greek conscripts - minions.
And they tended to battle strategically, not rushing in.
Basically my point is Spartans weren't berserkers.
Great video as usual though
The battle of 300 being a League game just makes me chuckle. And they were split push in the end that's why they lost.
patch 8.2 target skill nerf, thoughts? on minion aggro
Gabriel Luis he says i doesnt rly mattet cause he maxes e anyway on most match ups
of course lol
600 Q range means Pan will be able to avoid aggro damage easily by just walking away. However, you will have a harder time freezing your lane if you Q a lot.
Just go into a bush instantly after Q-ing lol.
Need the pink wards now or those bushes that are warded wont help.
Wow wow. Very very interesting and informative video dude! Now I want to play Pantheon
DAMN that was a lot of important informations. Thanks!
11:03 actually spartans were indeed playing smartly and were calculating not just rushing in.
That was the situation when somebody know nothing about Spartans ;) He described exactly the opposite
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I don't think you really understand what a Spartan is. A Spartan is a tactician, not a barbarian as you described. 10:50
To not appreciate how the Spartans revolutionized tactical warfare is a serious injustice to their legacy and everything that defines a Spartan. Even in the dumbed down movie 300, Spartan's tactical skills are highlighted and emphasized.
Really wish you did some basic research on Spartans because they are truly awesome and had some really impactful tactics that changed Warfare dramatically.
I think people could really come to appreciate and enjoy learning about the history of Spartans if they had a basic understanding of their history.
PS: Still enjoyed the league of legends education here.
Dude no1 cares
@Vale Sauce It's a game, that info isn't gonna get you through college is it. Tell me who the fuck finds you valuable when you say that shit.
@Vale Sauce I know this is the internet, but please have some respect for yourself. No one in your life gives a fuck about a Spartan. I don't even think you give a fuck either, you just want attention.
why do you play league? why do you watch youtube? that won't get you into college. Its almost like people have personal hobbies and interests. And its almost like people like to share those interests with others. you're ignorant af dude
If they were so smart how come they're dead?
This was really helpful!
I am very happy to see that I actually play Panth well. I definitely need to work on my wave management and gank choices, but it is good to see that I have the right idea - I also always feel rather impactful lategame, as I play him less as an assassin there and more as a peeler and threat-machine, often going more or less offensive depending on how well I can get to the enemy backline.
However, I think that most enemies do not play right vs pantheon early on - I oftentimes make a point of pushing him in with superior waveclear abilities, as I find Pantheon really struggles when pushed in early. Personally, I tend to go for an early tiamat to keep up and get into a more advantageous position.
Kinda fun that this guy plays pantheon just like me, but im a trashy gold player who leaves pantheon for normal games.
In the upcoming patch his Q will cause minion agro xD
thank god
HOJOJOJO, ME CAGO E' RISA not thank god tbh. It would work in most smart pantheons favour which would suck
care to expand?
karl karlsson so when ever you hit an enemy champion in lane the enemies minions attack you, they focus you and this is called minion agro, in the upcoming patch pantheon's Q will cause enemy minions to attack you, but it's not only path champions like yasuo will also find it harder to trade in the early levels.
TheRealZuril Yasuo can just line in the q with a minion
Little did you know, keegun is actually street Jimmy
It't cute how much you love Keegun :)
Keegun is patient and know how to play i respect that....but what you said at 11:04 is what i want to do.
The only way i can satisfy my bloodlust for kills war and glorious slaughter is to make riot rework panteon.
Until then i will be patient and use tactics !
The real question is... why did he lose clallenger twice?
Im not serius (saying that to avoid cringy replyies :D)
Because he dont buy pink ward
he didnt, he has 3 separate challenger accounts
Season reset?
σταματης βραγκας μπράβο 😂👍
Forget the cringy replies, what's clallenger?
Very informative video. Liked and subscribed.
Well, with the 8.2 patch point and click abilities now draw minion Aggro so will kegan adapt to this change?
That strategy in the beginning is what literally everybody does on every hero since the history of LoL. Get the lvl 2 then harass then crash
A wise man once said: view Pantheon as an alcoholic abusive parent.
JustSomeGuy but Keegun is a SMART alcoholic abusive parent, you wanna do some shady stuff? Just play like Pantheon
this comment is the best one man!!
You also forgot to mention that this guy, even when he gets camped or gets killed a lot and falls behind, still manages to come back from it and goes positive at the end of the game consistently
Great video Dong.
As a Greek I have to inform you that Spartans were not the race that would kill and destroy other races or even make wars. They were always getting prepared to fight for their country not to conquer others. Also Spartans were from the few races that though that women could have rights ( and we also know that women were more respected and powerful, but we are only talking about the spartan women) so they wouldn't torture innocent women and kids in war time.
At last someone that know history !!!
They did have so many slaves that they outnumbered them though. That is why they became so war-based so they could put down slave uprisings.
Yeah and if your new born didn't look legit they tossed it lmao I prefer Athenians
@@eojgnoix Athenian philosophers had sexual pleasure in young boys -sorry vad english
Is that True Spartans were essentially the good warrior class? Because I hate the Vikings they are villains, bad ass villains but villains.
Spartans had
the best strategies and no outsider was allowed to see them train. To this day we don’t know their exact tactics , they also took turns fighting and some slept while other fought and the men behind the front line gave them weapons and what not. They didn’t just go yolo and suicide that’s why they were the first and mightiest professionally trained army in the world.
True
great analysis
why no videos for like... a year now? We miss you donger
Spartans were known to be calm and tactical in battle. Yes they were fierce and brave but they didn't scream or do reckless things or panic. they were like spec ops of today
I am greek and Feel honored pantheon made it this high
Soul Semblance you're proud of a braindead champion LOL
DreamingFreak , he is actually inspired in the Greek mithology, because he is like a Spartan, which was in Grecce, and he even has the "Perseus Pantheon" skin which is inspired obviusly in Perseus, the one warrior/prince that killed the medusa.
I am Tyler
why? Pantheon is from Targon, bruh. No Greece in Runeterra...
although spartans were good tacticians idk what this boy DUNGhuap is talking about
"Lettimg me to interview him" good vid broseph thanks.
good thing I play Pantheon like keegun
Every champions can macro-manage the game, some better than others. The reason Pantheon is easy to macro with is because there is almost no micro-management in his kit, allowing you to focus on the macro more. But easy isn't the best, since there are a few other champs in the game who are better at macro management.
How to deal with heimerdinger and annie plsssss
Heimer
Either:
A: Play safe and let him push early knowing you'll scale better than him anyway.
B: He specifically counters a select group of champions... therefore he has a lot of his own counters that are very popular and played a lot. Check op.gg or something and you can find a list of champs that shit on him in top and mid.
C: A good gank with hard cc stops him from using his spells = no burst damage from turrets. Especially after cutting his ult q damage in half at all levels in 8.1.
Josh T but how and when can i gank him?
Alonso Cruz Vásquez Totally forgot to mention that. You have a 8-10 second window right after he uses his E (stun grenade). That's his only escape and his main beam proc. Fortunately, most Heimer players poke with it (because minions can block the missiles), so you won't have to wait long.
That's usually what Katarina players do, for example. Wait for the grenade to fly, then dash to a dagger and do your damage, dash out. Renekton players who are used to donger players easily counter them with that "in and out" tactic with Slice and Dice (W) as well while the nade is down or while it's in mid air.
How to deal with annie? Get some MR so she cant burst you down at 6.
She is also very weak to jungle ganks. Especially if she has no flash up
How to deal with Heimer and Annie: get out of bronze
"not with kills, but with minions"
Pantheon Jg: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?!
the play at 5:55 is nice. i like it how he procs his passive shield skill by stunning a minion to block that tower shot which would have otherwise killed him. That's the kinda stuff i never do and is why i'll be forever in gold :(
Short version:
He's so bad he forces you to play well.
Please don't spread pantheon's cancer...
I like Panth when it's a riven or yasuo
godammn never miss the joy when they cry
Can you do a video on thresh players and play styles? People think playing support is very easy, but I want to know how to play thresh better. Thanks love your videos!
Wait a minute. Are you saying that the spartans weren't tacticians? Are you mental???
the "easiest" champs like veigar,panth,annie etc. are the hardest to play viable in high elo.
but still no recognition for those who can play these on such a high level :(
blacknwhite_gaming It's because these champs scale with game knowledge and not skill. There is no difference between a bronze 5 panth q and a rank 1 panth q. The reason they don't get recognition is because playing them at higher elo has nothing to do with your skill on the champ.
omg i remember this guy i watched him so much and i just found him
Does this still work with the changes to minion aggro?
I play pantheon and I myself think he is ez af to play
thats literally the side point of this video...
I'm just been offended as Spartan
Considering the fact that Spartans had the most advanced strategies and tactics of all ancient warfare
Romans would like to have a word with you
Romans indeed has to explain staff
Considering the fact that Ancient Roman Empire copied/pasted Ancient Greece battle formations/doctrines/religion/architecture style and so on.
Master of Puppets I have to agree with you,studying Greek History is actually really helpful to learn how Romans just copied everything of the ancient greek world. Spartans and Athenians knew how to start a war and how to end it,which resources they had to sacrifice and with which Allies make peace. "Not like a spartan?" Duuude!
Master of Puppets Yes, until they realised greek fighting style was shit and started using their own style (inspired by neighbours) and then proceeded to kick the teeth in of the greeks
+Master of puppets battle of leuctra? I dont consider the greek phalanx "most advanced strategy and tactic of ancient warfare", macedonians massively improved on the phalanx and they used cav to complement it. Romans fought in manipular formations not phalanxes. Why did the spartans never expand if they were so dominating?
"No defence." yeah he just has a shield and can block autos and turret shots.
I forgot who's channel this was when I was watching the video...