*Install was easy **fireplace.homes** good although I personally had some difficulty with the thermostat I had. Issue was mine though, not realizing that electric heaters couldn't use oil thermostats. Tip: If you are using an external thermostat, run the power to the thermostat, not the unit. Once that was squared away it worked great.*
you said to cut the wire from the top of unit but my instructions clearly say to not cut that one if working on the left hand side as you are in the video
I've often wondered in the recent two years if this was possible. right now all of our electric heaters are controlled by built in knobs on the baseboard heater. our girls room is the coolest room in the house in winter or gets to be the hottest on warm days. I need to change it over to this. so it sets it's self
Gonna guess that those are register heaters? If you want to control all of the registers with 1 thermostat, then you must find a thermostat that can handle the amp load from all of those registers. You also want to make sure that they are all on the same phase. Fancier thermostats do not play nice if different components are on different phases. Amp load for electric registers: Look at the resistive amps used when the thing is going. If you want to combine registers to one 1 thermostat, then register 1 + register 2. If that total is more than the rating of the thermostat, bad deal. Work around? Learn how SPST relays work.
GREAT VIDEO!! Thanks for the information. just got a quick question, so the two black wires from the wall don't need to be matched the two black wires from the new thermostat? Im actually replacing a broken thermostat, just want to make sure the right way to do it. Thanks
+REX CHEN It's best to match up the black wires from the thermostat to the black wires from the wall. If you need additional help, you can always send us an e-mail or chat with one of our tech support guys. cadetheat.com/support/customer-service
Along with replacing an old thermostat, I am also replacing a very old 240v 93" with a new 96" 240v baseboard heater and the supply lines was on the right side of the old heater. Is there an advantage or disadvantage or any difference using the right side (other then one less wire)? Do you need to make any adjustments to the wires and ground on the heater's left side after connecting the supply wires to the right side? Thanks.
I have a question for you. We recently changed our analog thermostats to programmable digitals. All except one work. The problem one has had to be replaced three times! I recently had an electrician come in to help solve that problem. He told me the third thermostat is not pulling enough amps or wattage. This is puzzling because the first one worked for a couple of days before it went out. He went on to suggest that we buy a "6000-watt, 240-volt digital thermostat." In the meantime, he connected the four wires (two red and two black) to bypass the thermostat while we wait for a new one. He combined one red and one black thus making the four wires into two. He said that would work except that we have to use the fusebox as the switch to control the temperature. It worked. My question is if he could change a 4-wire into 2-wire (that is a two-pole into one-pole) why can't we use a single pole thermostat like the Honeywell TH106? Thanks in advance. Kay
Good question. You can swap out a double-pole thermostat for a single-pole one, going the other direction isn't always possible. However, if your electrician is telling you that you have too many watts for the thermostat, going to a single pole isn't going to help you. Have you spoken with our tech support team by any chance? We don't typically see cases where someone has 6,0000-watts going through a single thermostat. They will be best equipped to quickly get an answer for you.
I currently have a Cadet baseboard heater. The thermostat has a double pole hookup. I just purchased a Stelpro STZW402+ . Will this process work to replace it?
Hey Bill, It appears that this Stelpro thermostat is a single-pole thermostat. If that is in-fact the case, this video will give you a general idea of what the process is like. You'll need to be sure to follow the instructions from the thermostat guide -- not the ones outlined in this video -- for the actual installation.
i did this same digital thermostat to replace the mechanical one on a short baseboard and cadet heater tied together and as soon as it reaches the set temp it continuously cycles on and off. any idea?
Yes, so to fix this you need to configure the cycle length on the thermostat from 15 seconds to 15 minutes. To do this you will need to adjust a switch behind the thermostat. This can be seen on page 2 step 3 (Configuration) of the owner's guide. cadetheat.com/download/TH106-owners-guide.pdf Let us know if you have any more questions!
I'm upgrading from a very old analog to this digital programmable thermostat. I have a forced air radiator, so the thermostat's only job is to turn on the fan when it gets too cold. The problem I'm facing is the thermostat goes to LP every time the fan is supposed to turn on. I can hear the fan begin to start and immediately stop. Is there any way I can fix this problem without getting a different thermostat?
Sorry it took a little while to get back to you. Our tech support team says this thermostat is not intended to be used with a forced air radiator. You'll need to find a replacement.
Jesse, The white wire is also hot in this situation so it's a 240-volt application. A lot of electricians will mark the white wire to indicate that it's also hot, we didn't do that at the time of filming this video but we will going forward.
*Install was easy **fireplace.homes** good although I personally had some difficulty with the thermostat I had. Issue was mine though, not realizing that electric heaters couldn't use oil thermostats. Tip: If you are using an external thermostat, run the power to the thermostat, not the unit. Once that was squared away it worked great.*
you said to cut the wire from the top of unit but my instructions clearly say to not cut that one if working on the left hand side as you are in the video
I've often wondered in the recent two years if this was possible. right now all of our electric heaters are controlled by built in knobs on the baseboard heater. our girls room is the coolest room in the house in winter or gets to be the hottest on warm days. I need to change it over to this. so it sets it's self
Gonna guess that those are register heaters? If you want to control all of the registers with 1 thermostat, then you must find a thermostat that can handle the amp load from all of those registers. You also want to make sure that they are all on the same phase. Fancier thermostats do not play nice if different components are on different phases.
Amp load for electric registers: Look at the resistive amps used when the thing is going. If you want to combine registers to one 1 thermostat, then register 1 + register 2. If that total is more than the rating of the thermostat, bad deal. Work around? Learn how SPST relays work.
GREAT VIDEO!! Thanks for the information. just got a quick question, so the two black wires from the wall don't need to be matched the two black wires from the new thermostat? Im actually replacing a broken thermostat, just want to make sure the right way to do it. Thanks
+REX CHEN It's best to match up the black wires from the thermostat to the black wires from the wall. If you need additional help, you can always send us an e-mail or chat with one of our tech support guys. cadetheat.com/support/customer-service
+REX CHEN And thanks. We're glad you liked the video!
Along with replacing an old thermostat, I am also replacing a very old 240v 93" with a new 96" 240v baseboard heater and the supply lines was on the right side of the old heater. Is there an advantage or disadvantage or any difference using the right side (other then one less wire)? Do you need to make any adjustments to the wires and ground on the heater's left side after connecting the supply wires to the right side? Thanks.
I have a question for you. We recently changed our analog thermostats to programmable digitals. All except one work. The problem one has had to be replaced three times! I recently had an electrician come in to help solve that problem. He told me the third thermostat is not pulling enough amps or wattage. This is puzzling because the first one worked for a couple of days before it went out. He went on to suggest that we buy a "6000-watt, 240-volt digital thermostat." In the meantime, he connected the four wires (two red and two black) to bypass the thermostat while we wait for a new one. He combined one red and one black thus making the four wires into two. He said that would work except that we have to use the fusebox as the switch to control the temperature. It worked. My question is if he could change a 4-wire into 2-wire (that is a two-pole into one-pole) why can't we use a single pole thermostat like the Honeywell TH106? Thanks in advance. Kay
Good question. You can swap out a double-pole thermostat for a single-pole one, going the other direction isn't always possible. However, if your electrician is telling you that you have too many watts for the thermostat, going to a single pole isn't going to help you. Have you spoken with our tech support team by any chance? We don't typically see cases where someone has 6,0000-watts going through a single thermostat. They will be best equipped to quickly get an answer for you.
Thanks a million. I'll give them a call.
I currently have a Cadet baseboard heater. The thermostat has a double pole hookup. I just purchased a Stelpro STZW402+ . Will this process work to replace it?
Hey Bill,
It appears that this Stelpro thermostat is a single-pole thermostat. If that is in-fact the case, this video will give you a general idea of what the process is like. You'll need to be sure to follow the instructions from the thermostat guide -- not the ones outlined in this video -- for the actual installation.
look at 2:48 there a wire free touching the case
It would be helpful if your hands didn’t block the view of the work. Maybe raise the camera so you’re looking down at the work.
Thank you for the feedback. We think we've done a better job with our more recent videos, but will be sure to keep this in mind when we make more.
i did this same digital thermostat to replace the mechanical one on a short baseboard and cadet heater tied together and as soon as it reaches the set temp it continuously cycles on and off. any idea?
Yes, so to fix this you need to configure the cycle length on the thermostat from 15 seconds to 15 minutes. To do this you will need to adjust a switch behind the thermostat. This can be seen on page 2 step 3 (Configuration) of the owner's guide.
cadetheat.com/download/TH106-owners-guide.pdf
Let us know if you have any more questions!
I'm upgrading from a very old analog to this digital programmable thermostat. I have a forced air radiator, so the thermostat's only job is to turn on the fan when it gets too cold. The problem I'm facing is the thermostat goes to LP every time the fan is supposed to turn on. I can hear the fan begin to start and immediately stop. Is there any way I can fix this problem without getting a different thermostat?
Sorry it took a little while to get back to you. Our tech support team says this thermostat is not intended to be used with a forced air radiator. You'll need to find a replacement.
Don't you have to attach the ground wires?
Yes that's correct, you'd connect the two ground wires together with a wire not.
You may want to re-make this instructional with the white wire being wrapped in black tape at the baseboard end.
“White wire” really depends on how the breaker is wired. Use more accurate terminology… how about supply and load?
That was how to install a 120 volt system. Can you please show us the 240 volt system?
Jesse, Why are you thinking this is a 120-volt system?
+Cadet Heat so are you telling my that one of those black wires is supplying 240 volts? usually you have 2 wires 120 volt each to get 240 volts...
Jesse,
The white wire is also hot in this situation so it's a 240-volt application. A lot of electricians will mark the white wire to indicate that it's also hot, we didn't do that at the time of filming this video but we will going forward.
+Cadet Heat ok. thank you
Do you sell a 22amp, (or 20 amp) 240 volt double pole programmable thermostat?
Too loud music makes it hard to hear! No music is necessary!!!!
Just show to yourself not viewers 😢😢😢😢😢
Maybe worst how to video I’ve ever seen.
That Dave is annoying
I am sorry but That is a lousy demonstrate.