I remember during the 1970's or early 80's running single operation production on HUGE aircraft part orders for weeks and months, all manual machines. I was the robot. 🤖
imagine working on a part and nervous about your setup while it runs and youre completely focused on the machine, and then titan comes up and uggghhhhhs right behind you.
I'm a journeyman pipewelder. I still enjoy watching you content. I have a small milling machine in my basement, I bought some kennametal bits thanks to you.
I knew almost 25 years ago that automation was the future. I have been in and out of the field a few times but it is still fascinating. Keep on pushing the envelope.
we still pushing it at this very moment, the trade is amazing, the technology changing. I'm usually on the assembly side, but I'm in the machine shop for a bit now and all the automation stuff translates to cnc in a way, I am slowly unveiling the magic behind cnc.
five years ago we had 22 max employees per shift in our machining department. since then we have added two automatic lines and near fully automated eight of the other 10. we now have average 45 employees per shift. we still need people who can understand fanuc robot equipment, and understand using the robots, and understand how to operate the cnc equipment minimally, and make them interact together. in order for us to keep up with cheap overseas labor, but yet still earn a reasonable, family sustaining, future building wage; robotics were necessary. they keep production consistent and efficient and competitive, they help keep quality consistent and clean, and most importantly to everyone, they lower comp cases way down. plus they're heccin' fun to work with once you get the hang of them and from my experience fanuc 'bots are extremely versatile.
This part looks very similar to the thousands of cell tower housings we made 25 years ago on a Matsuura CNC palletized horizontal mill. We used tombstones, made 16 parts at a time in 2 operations and didn't need a robot.
cnc dudes like little cutter, many paths, at least for facing material, things stay in spec better, and it's amazing when you can't feel the difference between the toolpaths on a surface.
Another fantastic video Titan and team. Love the speed of that Fanuc robo drill. Such a capable machine in such a small footprint. Bring that work back to your home countries people 👊. Thanks for mentioning Australia 🇦🇺. Cheers buddy🍻. Aaron
Yeah he left this part of the process out.. I doubt the finished “medical” part has a dovetail on it. But I’m sure that’s a super quick and simple job to face it off. They could automate that too
The most fast way is to die-cast this parts, and then cnc only size important surfaces, this way it will be several times faster and will save more then half of material cost.
That doesn't mean it makes more sense. If you want to cut on tooling cost and inventory, need to make changes to the design, have short runs,... then machining makes sense. It is more and more cost efficient as machines get faster and are more automated.
@@SuperYellowsubmarin They metioned thе quantity 100 000pcs, and that they want to win competion over overseas factories. That is mass production order quantity. Considering this, I doubt a little about the success of whole campain.
I do run castings in a similar setup, customer decision. And you may be right but casting tolerances are a huge pain in the ass to setup fixtures. And sometimes you find bubbles. Cheap might not be good. And cheap material can mean lots of scrap, expensive fixturing, machine stops, lower speeds... The main reason I would use castings is to avoid 3d surfacing areas with no tolerance. But with a square part like this I dont think casting is a concern.
These machines are good. The only downside I have seen yet is that there is a possibility that small chips can be caught on the toolholder, which impacts the depth accuracy on some tools.
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You can use a probe as in process inspection. Macros to count the parts and then to execute an inspection subprogram making any necessary offsets within a set range, if it exceeds a predetermined range the machine will alarm out.
If it's going to be lights out operating how do you control the chips. Have run this machine and biggest problem was handling the chips. Coolant tanks will have floaters which block the screens cutting off Coolant flow.
I hope the robots will need implants (or medical care) because they will be the only ones with a job in the future. When the people stop making money then there will be no more buying power ergo no more product demand if no body can buy it. I love technology but I am worried about where it is going to take us. Beautiful setup, that is a talented machinist/programmer.
There is many things you can do. Modern machines have spindle load limits/power consumtion limits you can program to stop when are reached. Or accustic sensors to notice when tools are not cutting smooth, like a guitar tuner. Also if you have tool pockets available you can setup twin tools, so the machine don’t have to stop.
I like how they are pushing the robot but only showing 1 operation. I see one before they run and needs one more after so how does that work with this set-up
I would love to know how much is a set up like that cost including all of the robotics? You need to figure out your machining cost per our including machine payments. What is the hourly rate on a machine like this???
Only thing I can tell you because I operate a high power robodrill like this. Without the robot, with 4 axis instead of 5 and renishaw laser+probe... the company paid 80k euro aprox. This could be 90-120k euro maybe.
That's why you need to get into maintenance machining. Reconditioning, pumps and commercial equipment, debugging stamping dies, repairing molds. Robots nor china will take such jobs. Its like having a plumbing problem at your house and having a robot come in and fix it. It not going to happen anytime soon.
I remember during the 1970's or early 80's running single operation production on HUGE aircraft part orders for weeks and months, all manual machines. I was the robot. 🤖
imagine working on a part and nervous about your setup while it runs and youre completely focused on the machine, and then titan comes up and uggghhhhhs right behind you.
Booooom!
I'm a journeyman pipewelder. I still enjoy watching you content. I have a small milling machine in my basement, I bought some kennametal bits thanks to you.
Yup, endmill sales thanks to Titan!
I knew almost 25 years ago that automation was the future. I have been in and out of the field a few times but it is still fascinating. Keep on pushing the envelope.
we still pushing it at this very moment, the trade is amazing, the technology changing. I'm usually on the assembly side, but I'm in the machine shop for a bit now and all the automation stuff translates to cnc in a way, I am slowly unveiling the magic behind cnc.
@@yo64yo magic ends when you need to catch hundreds
five years ago we had 22 max employees per shift in our machining department. since then we have added two automatic lines and near fully automated eight of the other 10. we now have average 45 employees per shift. we still need people who can understand fanuc robot equipment, and understand using the robots, and understand how to operate the cnc equipment minimally, and make them interact together. in order for us to keep up with cheap overseas labor, but yet still earn a reasonable, family sustaining, future building wage; robotics were necessary. they keep production consistent and efficient and competitive, they help keep quality consistent and clean, and most importantly to everyone, they lower comp cases way down. plus they're heccin' fun to work with once you get the hang of them and from my experience fanuc 'bots are extremely versatile.
Robodrills are amazing machines. I love them
This part looks very similar to the thousands of cell tower housings we made 25 years ago on a Matsuura CNC palletized horizontal mill. We used tombstones, made 16 parts at a time in 2 operations and didn't need a robot.
The horizontal cnc is a robot.
Palletized means linear robot.
We got 2 1995 fanuc robo drill mates. Probably our strongest longest running least break down machines!
I love how the metals shine after CNC
surface finish is a byproduct of proper practices, fixtures, feeds, speeds, tool selection etc !!!.
cnc dudes like little cutter, many paths, at least for facing material, things stay in spec better, and it's amazing when you can't feel the
difference between the toolpaths on a surface.
Seeing the guy from FANUC makes me realize how much confident is TITAN at speaking to anything haha
Very good, Less 'Moves more parts' Saves the life Of The Robot, With great over all Advantages. Is Less Time = Money, I like it.
Jakob is the man! Keep the industrial robot vids coming!
brilliant. you should get some politicians to see this video.
While I do miss the high accuracy production stuff I also enjoy the huge pieces I do now
Have done thousands of similar parts. Lots of handling to get it done. Much easier this way
Fanuc is such a weird machine, looks like something out of the 80/90’s
Robots don't take the jobs of people. They just help the same number of people to crank out a lot more product and remain competitive and employed.
Another fantastic video Titan and team. Love the speed of that Fanuc robo drill. Such a capable machine in such a small footprint. Bring that work back to your home countries people 👊. Thanks for mentioning Australia 🇦🇺. Cheers buddy🍻. Aaron
You guys need to start making AR lowers and uppers. The logo would fit perfectly
There is no money in guns! Medical Aerospace and Oilfield is where the real money is at...
@@killersp1974 true. But their logo would look badass on a lower.
Fuck yeah bring that manufacturing home! Let's go! 💪💪🔥
just awsome for auto progress!!!
would be nice if this part was on the academy
I am a machinist for a medical company and I wish we had a machine like that haha
Hii
This is exactly why I make twice as much making sawblades as opposed to making car rims back at my last job.
Крутые вы парни и станки у вас тоже крутые.
idk why I follow a channel of machining and cnc, while I'm not even a engineer student.
What about the dovetail on the finished part? It it part of the design or do you then have to reload for a second operation?
Generally the idea is that preparation steps can be done on a simpler machine with lower skilled employees.
Yeah he left this part of the process out.. I doubt the finished “medical” part has a dovetail on it. But I’m sure that’s a super quick and simple job to face it off. They could automate that too
He said he flipped the part for the second OP
The most fast way is to die-cast this parts, and then cnc only size important surfaces, this way it will be several times faster and will save more then half of material cost.
That doesn't mean it makes more sense. If you want to cut on tooling cost and inventory, need to make changes to the design, have short runs,... then machining makes sense. It is more and more cost efficient as machines get faster and are more automated.
@@SuperYellowsubmarin They metioned thе quantity 100 000pcs, and that they want to win competion over overseas factories. That is mass production order quantity. Considering this, I doubt a little about the success of whole campain.
I do run castings in a similar setup, customer decision. And you may be right but casting tolerances are a huge pain in the ass to setup fixtures. And sometimes you find bubbles. Cheap might not be good. And cheap material can mean lots of scrap, expensive fixturing, machine stops, lower speeds...
The main reason I would use castings is to avoid 3d surfacing areas with no tolerance. But with a square part like this I dont think casting is a concern.
Material consistent
Casting has another set of challenges and requires the extra step of machining all over again. Touch the part the least number of times possible.
These machines are good. The only downside I have seen yet is that there is a possibility that small chips can be caught on the toolholder, which impacts the depth accuracy on some tools.
Have y'all tried something like the Leica ATS600 for quality control?
are there solutions with visualisation like that for bigger parts? for example 500x500x500mm(19.685x19.685x19.685") or even bigger
meus parabéns pelos seus videos ,são fantásticos .
beautiful billets
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Thank you for this video!👍👍👍👍
Guiauuuu exelenteee!!!
Robots are the only way for lights out machining. We have robot load and unload cnc grinders, and we run lights out 24/5 ......with medical parts.
Being a medical part, tolerances must be pretty tight? How do you control tool wear in this application?
You can use a probe as in process inspection. Macros to count the parts and then to execute an inspection subprogram making any necessary offsets within a set range, if it exceeds a predetermined range the machine will alarm out.
Aeropspace and medical parts that You always do
If it's going to be lights out operating how do you control the chips. Have run this machine and biggest problem was handling the chips. Coolant tanks will have floaters which block the screens cutting off Coolant flow.
I hope the robots will need implants (or medical care) because they will be the only ones with a job in the future.
When the people stop making money then there will be no more buying power ergo no more product demand if no body can buy it.
I love technology but I am worried about where it is going to take us.
Beautiful setup, that is a talented machinist/programmer.
So awesome.
So good to see normal people umasked
1:11 because those machines and robots costs money.
also because we make molds for automotive industry mainly :P
Virgin Fanuc Robodrill vs Chad Brother Speedio
Awesome video! But you place the product on some kind of a conveyor belt. Does it not scratch the product?
Could have made them faster with a Brother Speedio.
I didn't know Brother had integrated vision robot systems.
Mr.Titan how to manage tool life in automation...?
Its Aluminum Lifetime tools LOL
There is many things you can do.
Modern machines have spindle load limits/power consumtion limits you can program to stop when are reached. Or accustic sensors to notice when tools are not cutting smooth, like a guitar tuner.
Also if you have tool pockets available you can setup twin tools, so the machine don’t have to stop.
I like how they are pushing the robot but only showing 1 operation. I see one before they run and needs one more after so how does that work with this set-up
You flip the parts over and re-load with a new program on the same machine with automation.
Please the price if possible
I would love to know how much is a set up like that cost including all of the robotics? You need to figure out your machining cost per our including machine payments. What is the hourly rate on a machine like this???
Only thing I can tell you because I operate a high power robodrill like this. Without the robot, with 4 axis instead of 5 and renishaw laser+probe... the company paid 80k euro aprox. This could be 90-120k euro maybe.
$230k USD
!!BOOM!!
got a 5 axis set up for v8 cylinder heads?
How long did it take you to program that part ?
Probably about 1-5 hours. It's really not complicated at all.
Robotic manufacturing will put most of us out of a job in the next 10-20 years. Shops that can't afford them will be run out of business.
That's why you need to get into maintenance machining. Reconditioning, pumps and commercial equipment, debugging stamping dies, repairing molds. Robots nor china will take such jobs. Its like having a plumbing problem at your house and having a robot come in and fix it. It not going to happen anytime soon.
50 parts...spend 1 million on a 10k job. Hey, but we got it done on lights out.
детали без резьбы?
а то бы сломавшиеся метчики этот автоматизм пустили в разнос:)
Still gotta remove that dovetail tho 🤔
Yep
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Time to make machines pay taxes too.
Robots are necessary. Not