In that 2nd game especially, white suffered from what I refer to as "cascading failure" when a bad decision leads to further bad decisions to try to compensate and makes the game more hopeless by the moment.
@@JohnBartholomewChess would you be willing to do a video against players of your own rating (maybe friends) where you play unrated games and intentionally blunder a pawn and talk about how you make the game interesting/complicated without making them outright bad? I feel like weaker players (like me) lash out and lose, but do it because they know if they DON'T they'll also lose. How do you deal with the catch 22?
Thanks John for playing against 1200 - 1400 rating player, please upload more videos on this rating ladder because we mostly stay in this level and watching you playing against them definitely help us climb
I have watched and rewatched nearly all of your videos. I find I learn something each time especially as I develop in chess. Thanks for all the great content John!
Watched this tonight and five minutes later I'm in a game where my opponent put their queen in front of their king. Wouldn't have known how to seize that opportunity--or even realized it was an opportunity--before watching this video. Ten minutes later I had a win that I wouldn't have had otherwise. Thanks John! Your videos are an incredible resource, greatly appreciated!
I always love seeing your videos pop up in my feed because I know I can click them and relax without having to watch a million adverts. A lot of channels I’m subscribed to I’m reluctant to click their videos or say I’ll do it later and forget, because I can’t be bothered to watch loads of adverts. With yours I can just click them, relax and enjoy the show. I hope you find value in having low adverts in the form of views, subscribers, chessable users and books/other content sales. Thank you for the great content.
John, vids like this are so helpful for us 1500s. We play like this and see play like this. Watching strong players play is good but doesnt help us punish bad play since there is no bad play! Thanks.
Thanks for another great climbing the rating ladder video, John! I’ve been reading Chernev’s book “Logical Chess,” which I’ve heard you recommend. Over and over he talks about the loosening effect of moving wing pawns, especially in front of the castled king, which weakens the squares around the king. Since reading his book when I see h6, I start looking for ways to exploit the weakened g6 square. It’s helpful to see this example of taking advantage of an early h6 even before castling, not so much because of a weakened g6 square, but because of the lag in development and the opportunity to favorably open the position. Thanks for sharing!
I usually play the Vienna, but thought I would switch to the Italian after seeing this. Straight away I got 3..h6 and exploded the centre. Thanks for the lesson JB, loving this series. Unsure why there are random music videos on the end in the playlist though...
man two months ago I was an 1100-1200. I hit 1559 today. And if one thing has helped me more than any other it's this series of videos. Otherwise I feel like I would still be rushing and moving pieces aimlessly. I know John hates his "perfectionist tendencies" but I think that's the best part about these videos. They've gotten me away from my dubious tendencies!
Wow I don't have much constructive to say except, John you're on fire! 🔥🔥 Keep em coming, this is gold, last video with the rooks and the drawn position, wow it was a 1 in a million game. 💯💚🌶️
John, for the enthused novice, you're the best. I've learned more from you than anybody. Agadmator, not even. Finegold, 90% amusement with 10% instruction. I could go on... but i made my point already ^_^
Well, of course. Agadmator do not teach. His channel is all about helping new players to digest top level play and chess history. Finegold like banter and this waste a lot of time but he is still is decent to learn from. This is about personal preferences
@@vertsang5424 no, i work as a scientist, and it's a scientific fact that JB is the most enlightening refreshing and entertaining chess entity in the known YT universe. XD
Very instructive video Minnesota Fins, this is my favorite rating range and I can relate to it. If I was a Yank and you ran on the pro-trade ticket I would definitely vote for you. President John has a nice ring to it.
Love these Italian climbing the rating ladder games. I feel like a large part of your viewer base is familiar and plays this opening quite a bit (or runs into it). Would appreciate more tutorials!
Thanks so much for these videos John! I am getting close to hitting 1000 in blitz cause of you. I really think that playing these lower rated player are some of the best and most instructive videos of the "Climbing the Rating Ladder" series. Sub-1500 players like myself all tend to make the same mistakes and your highlighting these mistakes really helps me to improve. Keep it up the vids! Play more newbs like me so I can learn to not be a newb lol
Never heard of 'spite check' before. I wonder how this translates in different languages… anyone want to contribute? Love the respect you show to sub-1500s, which almost no one else does. JB MVP.
I know this vid is 1 year old but I'll try. Why did you say black should have played f5 before e4? If e4 (that happened) and Bxe4 he has Qxe4 and he's up a piece for a pawn. Am I reading this wrong?
Johm please review the game which recently happened between 14 year old keymer and magnus carpesn, i feel it was really instructive, if we get tour insight on that game it will be useful
JB if you wouldn’t mind a recommendation from me... Whenever you do a climbing the rating ladder video, you could use a fake account, in which you have the same “rating” as the person you are facing... most of the videos I saw from you, while they were incredibly helpful, and I am a huge fan... I’m afraid that most people often play more conservative against you... because they are afraid of your 2600 rating as I would be Please let me know your thoughts if you have time, God bless! Continue being great! Ps.. thanks for Chessable, greatly making me improve... hopefully soon I will reach Legend Rank
I actually think that would be questionable. The rating of the opponents would take a much greater hit and they get "used" for instructive purposes without knowing facing a much higher rated IM. They way it is, they know what is happening and if they play more conservative, there is no problem with that actually.
Most chess sites don't take kindly to losing games on purpose, precisely to stop players from playing below their level. He might be able to do unrated games on a blank account maybe, but I don't think it'd be possible to keep the same "rating" for long otherwise without essentially "cheating" the system.
Thanks for using Chessable! I think you're correct that people play differently when they see my rating/title. I've thought about doing what you describe, but, as others have said it's a bit debatable, ethically speaking (search "smurfing" to see others' thoughts on it in the gaming world). I may eventually find a workable solution, however.
Hi John. Here is a question that I've asked others but was unable to get any good replies. They say that chess is a logical game, so, in the rules of chess, how is it possible for a piece, that is in an absolute pin, to give check? A check is a threat to capture the king on the next move, but, if the piece is in an absolute pin, it can't legally move, so, how can any check given by that piece be valid? Good luck with this one!!
Haha, I know what you mean; that scenario can be a bit confusing. On the flip side, it might be equally or even more confusing if a piece in an absolute pin was *not* allowed to give check.
The way I see it is, you have turns. Despite a piece being pinned absolutely, you can threaten check. The idea in my head being that on your next turn you could 'capture' the king and win on that turn, so that the opponent wouldn't be able to 'capture' your king on the following turn. That's the way it makes sense in my special little brain. :)
@@edwardmensforth4761 Hi Edward. Not sure if I understand you here. My argument was that if a piece is in an absolute pin, it cant move, so how can it threaten to capture anything?
@@davehumphreys1725 Hi! :) The point of an absolute pin to me, is that if the pinned piece was to move, then the opponent could 'capture the king' on the next move. I understand chess doesn't play to the absolute king capture - you get to a position where the king cannot escape. To me, this means that whatever happens, on the next turn you could capture the king. As chess is played in turns - you have your turn, then the opponent has theirs, it suggests to me that if you were able to 'capture the king' on your turn, you'd immediately win. Therefore your opponent wouldn't get another turn. If they never get another turn, then your piece isn't truly 'pinned', as the pin can never be taken advantage of. Imagine a puzzle where you have mate in one. You have one move and the opponent does not ever get a move. If they are never able to get a move in, then they would never be able to capture your king - thus, any pins or threats are immaterial. The pin is only an absolute pin to me, if you cannot 'capture the opponents king' on that turn - as movement would allow the opponent to immediately 'capture *your* king' when you've moved. I don't feel I'm explaining it very well - but in the case of chess, you have a move, then the opponent has a move - only when you're finished. If, on your turn, you end the game - then the opponent never gets to exploit any traps or tricks. They've lost. Hence, to me, a pinned piece can still threaten check.
A piece in an absolute pin can still move along a file or diagonal between the king and the pinner. For example if a bishop was pinning the queen on the long diagonal, the queen would still be able to move on that diagonal between the king and the bishop (and capture the bishop). But I know that's not what you're getting at.
John, I think you should atleast pick opponents >1500 at the very least. It's pretty dull and unrelatable when your opponent is dropping material at almost every move. Also, doesn't give much learning material either.
I enjoy the content. Maybe I just fetishize extremely strong chess players passively, instructively destroying their opponents and telling us exactly how he did it.
@@stevend6067 remember when john played an 1100 in the same series few days back? It was a great video because the opponent wasn't dropping pieces easily. Hence, I added that it should be fine to play lower rated players in longer time formats.
I like that he varies the ratings he plays against in this series. I was around 800 when John started posting his rating ladder series, and 1300 seemed unimaginable to me back then. It's very instructive if you're low-rated. But there are plenty of videos where he plays 1500-2000 rated players in this and other series of his
In that 2nd game especially, white suffered from what I refer to as "cascading failure" when a bad decision leads to further bad decisions to try to compensate and makes the game more hopeless by the moment.
The compounding effect of mistakes.
cascading failure? sounds like a normal chess game to me
@@JohnBartholomewChess would you be willing to do a video against players of your own rating (maybe friends) where you play unrated games and intentionally blunder a pawn and talk about how you make the game interesting/complicated without making them outright bad?
I feel like weaker players (like me) lash out and lose, but do it because they know if they DON'T they'll also lose. How do you deal with the catch 22?
@@gcollins1992 I second this idea.
1300'ish noob here, this was informative for me!
I'm 1730 and this was informative and entertaining for me!
Why does beating players in this rating level seem so easy when John does it lol
Yea this 1393 guy would easily whoop me but is nowhere in these games
Thanks John for playing against 1200 - 1400 rating player, please upload more videos on this rating ladder because we mostly stay in this level and watching you playing against them definitely help us climb
Stick with the process. You can get from 1200 to 1700 in a year or so.
I have watched and rewatched nearly all of your videos. I find I learn something each time especially as I develop in chess. Thanks for all the great content John!
Watched this tonight and five minutes later I'm in a game where my opponent put their queen in front of their king. Wouldn't have known how to seize that opportunity--or even realized it was an opportunity--before watching this video. Ten minutes later I had a win that I wouldn't have had otherwise. Thanks John! Your videos are an incredible resource, greatly appreciated!
I always love seeing your videos pop up in my feed because I know I can click them and relax without having to watch a million adverts. A lot of channels I’m subscribed to I’m reluctant to click their videos or say I’ll do it later and forget, because I can’t be bothered to watch loads of adverts. With yours I can just click them, relax and enjoy the show.
I hope you find value in having low adverts in the form of views, subscribers, chessable users and books/other content sales. Thank you for the great content.
Thanks John. I am learning a lot through your videos. Not only the content is great but also the way you explain the concepts behind every move.
John, vids like this are so helpful for us 1500s. We play like this and see play like this. Watching strong players play is good but doesnt help us punish bad play since there is no bad play! Thanks.
Love these climbing the rating videos, very informative
Very very instructive, master! Thank you again...thousand times ...
Rc1+ was pretty damn ruthless John 😂😂 that's someone's child
Thanks for playing more than one game. Many of us only get your content through UA-cam so it’s a pleasant surprise when we get double the fun.
Thanks for another great climbing the rating ladder video, John! I’ve been reading Chernev’s book “Logical Chess,” which I’ve heard you recommend. Over and over he talks about the loosening effect of moving wing pawns, especially in front of the castled king, which weakens the squares around the king. Since reading his book when I see h6, I start looking for ways to exploit the weakened g6 square. It’s helpful to see this example of taking advantage of an early h6 even before castling, not so much because of a weakened g6 square, but because of the lag in development and the opportunity to favorably open the position. Thanks for sharing!
I love these games against lower rated players...it’s cause I am one
I feel smarter after having watched John’s videos
Now get your chess.com blitz rating back up!
working on it@@sammywohl5194 easier said than done
Awesome instructional video, John. Thank you.
Love this series!!!!! So much!
:D
John I faced this h3 move right after watching this video yesterday. I crushed him pretty handily in 20 moves!
I need a T-shirt that says: " *I'm pro trade!* (when i'm ahead in material) "
I usually play the Vienna, but thought I would switch to the Italian after seeing this.
Straight away I got 3..h6 and exploded the centre. Thanks for the lesson JB, loving this series. Unsure why there are random music videos on the end in the playlist though...
man two months ago I was an 1100-1200. I hit 1559 today. And if one thing has helped me more than any other it's this series of videos. Otherwise I feel like I would still be rushing and moving pieces aimlessly. I know John hates his "perfectionist tendencies" but I think that's the best part about these videos. They've gotten me away from my dubious tendencies!
Excellent progress! Keep climbing (copyright Delta, and me just now ;)).
Wow I don't have much constructive to say except, John you're on fire! 🔥🔥
Keep em coming, this is gold, last video with the rooks and the drawn position, wow it was a 1 in a million game. 💯💚🌶️
John, for the enthused novice, you're the best. I've learned more from you than anybody. Agadmator, not even. Finegold, 90% amusement with 10% instruction. I could go on... but i made my point already ^_^
Well, of course. Agadmator do not teach. His channel is all about helping new players to digest top level play and chess history.
Finegold like banter and this waste a lot of time but he is still is decent to learn from. This is about personal preferences
@@vertsang5424 no, i work as a scientist, and it's a scientific fact that JB is the most enlightening refreshing and entertaining chess entity in the known YT universe. XD
@@ogezpb3927 well, i actually agree xD
I agree. Eric Rosen is my second favourite. Astenah went to twitch, but seems to have pulled his recent videos.
You've really been on a tear with the uploads lately!
Trying to upload consistently! It's been a lot of fun :)
great vid john!
Very instructive video Minnesota Fins, this is my favorite rating range and I can relate to it. If I was a Yank and you ran on the pro-trade ticket I would definitely vote for you. President John has a nice ring to it.
both you and agadmator sip a drink while waiting for the viewer to calculate. It is just less awkward than sitting there I guess. I love it :)
Yup, nice way to break up the silence :)
Love these Italian climbing the rating ladder games. I feel like a large part of your viewer base is familiar and plays this opening quite a bit (or runs into it). Would appreciate more tutorials!
Thanks so much for these videos John! I am getting close to hitting 1000 in blitz cause of you. I really think that playing these lower rated player are some of the best and most instructive videos of the "Climbing the Rating Ladder" series. Sub-1500 players like myself all tend to make the same mistakes and your highlighting these mistakes really helps me to improve. Keep it up the vids! Play more newbs like me so I can learn to not be a newb lol
Pleased to hear you're getting stronger :) And thanks for your positive feedback on this series.
Thank you, JB. Have you ever considered doing a question/answer session?
Weakening the squares around the enemy king - always a good idea! 🤗
At 0:00:50 why is Ng5 a threat, given …h6? Thanks!
I saw the title and knew it was going to be an anti fried liver
Also known as the vegan defense :)
@@drumetul_dacic lol
U r a great teacher , u explain things very easily
Nobody:
John: THERE IS NO MERCY IN THIS DOJO!
gcollins1992 god i hate this
@@sterbern6762, you know you laughed. You're welcome. Roflmao
gcollins1992 i didnt laugh because that stupid format is so unoriginal and unfunny roflmao
@@sterbern6762 cool have a nice day
could black take d4 on move 8 in the first game? or would there be a problem?
Never heard of 'spite check' before. I wonder how this translates in different languages… anyone want to contribute?
Love the respect you show to sub-1500s, which almost no one else does.
JB MVP.
Thanks, Gerhard!
Wasn't RE1 a good in between move to prevent the pawn move and then you could still go for taking the knight in A5
I am from Brazil! I love your videos!!
Love it!
Well, i learn a few nice things in it;)
The bishop moves at the end in particular. Would have just doubled my pawns for the trade
I know this vid is 1 year old but I'll try.
Why did you say black should have played f5 before e4? If e4 (that happened) and Bxe4 he has Qxe4 and he's up a piece for a pawn. Am I reading this wrong?
Does third count
Thanks
What do you do, if they take your pawn on d4?
Re1 and queen is pined to the king.
In which position? If they capture early on d4, we can recapture Nxd4 and enjoy good potential with the open lines.
Cry like a grandmaster.
Why isn’t Qf6 on move 15 a good move in the first game?
Because the d8 rook is defended, and White would not yet be threatening Qxh8 due to the perpetual check idea ...Qg4-f3-g4.
Most of the people at low ratings don’t seem to think about their opponents moves before they play their own
Johm please review the game which recently happened between 14 year old keymer and magnus carpesn, i feel it was really instructive, if we get tour insight on that game it will be useful
What was wrong with 15. Qf6? Dosent that win another piece?
The d8-rook is defended, and another problem is that Qxh8 wouldn't be a threat yet, since Black would have a perpetual with ...Qg4-f3-g4+.
@@JohnBartholomewChess Thank you for your response. My favorite chess youtuber.
Perhaps Black should have played Qd8 after Nd5, as uncomfortable as that might be.
JB if you wouldn’t mind a recommendation from me...
Whenever you do a climbing the rating ladder video, you could use a fake account, in which you have the same “rating” as the person you are facing... most of the videos I saw from you, while they were incredibly helpful, and I am a huge fan... I’m afraid that most people often play more conservative against you... because they are afraid of your 2600 rating as I would be
Please let me know your thoughts if you have time, God bless!
Continue being great!
Ps.. thanks for Chessable, greatly making me improve... hopefully soon I will reach Legend Rank
I actually think that would be questionable. The rating of the opponents would take a much greater hit and they get "used" for instructive purposes without knowing facing a much higher rated IM. They way it is, they know what is happening and if they play more conservative, there is no problem with that actually.
Most chess sites don't take kindly to losing games on purpose, precisely to stop players from playing below their level. He might be able to do unrated games on a blank account maybe, but I don't think it'd be possible to keep the same "rating" for long otherwise without essentially "cheating" the system.
Thanks for using Chessable! I think you're correct that people play differently when they see my rating/title. I've thought about doing what you describe, but, as others have said it's a bit debatable, ethically speaking (search "smurfing" to see others' thoughts on it in the gaming world). I may eventually find a workable solution, however.
I think it that could be possible but maybe something like an instructive speedrun to 2000, like players like Hikaru and chessbrah are doing.
I never see John drinking beers.... T total?
Hi John. Here is a question that I've asked others but was unable to get any good replies. They say that chess is a logical game, so, in the rules of chess, how is it possible for a piece, that is in an absolute pin, to give check? A check is a threat to capture the king on the next move, but, if the piece is in an absolute pin, it can't legally move, so, how can any check given by that piece be valid? Good luck with this one!!
Haha, I know what you mean; that scenario can be a bit confusing. On the flip side, it might be equally or even more confusing if a piece in an absolute pin was *not* allowed to give check.
The way I see it is, you have turns. Despite a piece being pinned absolutely, you can threaten check. The idea in my head being that on your next turn you could 'capture' the king and win on that turn, so that the opponent wouldn't be able to 'capture' your king on the following turn. That's the way it makes sense in my special little brain. :)
@@edwardmensforth4761 Hi Edward. Not sure if I understand you here. My argument was that if a piece is in an absolute pin, it cant move, so how can it threaten to capture anything?
@@davehumphreys1725 Hi! :) The point of an absolute pin to me, is that if the pinned piece was to move, then the opponent could 'capture the king' on the next move. I understand chess doesn't play to the absolute king capture - you get to a position where the king cannot escape. To me, this means that whatever happens, on the next turn you could capture the king. As chess is played in turns - you have your turn, then the opponent has theirs, it suggests to me that if you were able to 'capture the king' on your turn, you'd immediately win. Therefore your opponent wouldn't get another turn. If they never get another turn, then your piece isn't truly 'pinned', as the pin can never be taken advantage of.
Imagine a puzzle where you have mate in one. You have one move and the opponent does not ever get a move. If they are never able to get a move in, then they would never be able to capture your king - thus, any pins or threats are immaterial. The pin is only an absolute pin to me, if you cannot 'capture the opponents king' on that turn - as movement would allow the opponent to immediately 'capture *your* king' when you've moved.
I don't feel I'm explaining it very well - but in the case of chess, you have a move, then the opponent has a move - only when you're finished. If, on your turn, you end the game - then the opponent never gets to exploit any traps or tricks. They've lost. Hence, to me, a pinned piece can still threaten check.
A piece in an absolute pin can still move along a file or diagonal between the king and the pinner. For example if a bishop was pinning the queen on the long diagonal, the queen would still be able to move on that diagonal between the king and the bishop (and capture the bishop). But I know that's not what you're getting at.
Hi John, Are you planning to become a Grandmaster in the future?
I would like to make another push in the future, yes.
@@JohnBartholomewChess That is great. Until then, thanks for your awesome videos:-)
First game was very useful, second, they just tilted a few moves in and threw it away.
Two words: caffeine rush.
I wanna play john
Interesting
I want to get my rating up to like 2000, and then play John and try to beat him lol
Should've played 3. h5 instead.
2nd
, first comment
1st like
Seems to be less cheats here lately in these videos
there is not much cheating in online chess. People tend to overestimate the problem and the frequency of such attitude
John, I think you should atleast pick opponents >1500 at the very least. It's pretty dull and unrelatable when your opponent is dropping material at almost every move. Also, doesn't give much learning material either.
Maybe you can play weaker opponents like this one in longer time formats though.
I enjoy the content. Maybe I just fetishize extremely strong chess players passively, instructively destroying their opponents and telling us exactly how he did it.
As a low rated chess player, I learn from these, so to each his own.
@@stevend6067 remember when john played an 1100 in the same series few days back? It was a great video because the opponent wasn't dropping pieces easily. Hence, I added that it should be fine to play lower rated players in longer time formats.
I like that he varies the ratings he plays against in this series. I was around 800 when John started posting his rating ladder series, and 1300 seemed unimaginable to me back then. It's very instructive if you're low-rated. But there are plenty of videos where he plays 1500-2000 rated players in this and other series of his