Please remember and consider the fact that the whole issue of fraud doesn't only affect the adults. Sometimes kids end up marrying siblings. These things cause psychological and emotional trauma. They grow up planning to migrate to be with their dads and paternity tests required by the embassy shatter the child's world. The hands that rock the cradle rule the world. One doesn't justify the next. If there is doubt, test it out. Love ya'll. Good to hear Naomi change her mind in the end. Nice one sis.
There's no basis for justifying paternity fraud. It is psychologically devastating especially to the man . Toun actually takes time to analyse the matter at hand and she is very objective rather than taking sides , and avoiding the facts.
As in ehn. Naomi and Kira are really giving ashawo vibes. I won't be even 1% surprised if they are both runs girls because supporting such wickedness takes a lot.
One thing I’ll point out here that they should be careful with - one of them mentioned a woman should leave a man because he’s “shooting blanks” and that not making him “man enough”. That’s very toxic. We don’t want to call women that can’t get pregnant “not woman enough” and suggest men leave them. That girl needs to learn accountability
Lol,she is only playing the devil's advocate and that's why it's called a show. Imagine, all of them agree at once on a particular topic then there will be no entertainment.
Seriously, you can't say that. I don't agree with some of the things she says, but it still points down to her opinion and knowledge. Check her well, there is an arguement for any statement made
Deceit is harmful to anyone. You will be questioning your whole existence when you find out your spouse has been hiding anything; it hurts. Trust is important in any relationship. Protect yourself both men and women.
Thinking about this and conversations about Prenup comes to mind. Ladies say Prenup conversation is disrespectful. DNA conversation is disrespectful. Marriage itself is a contract. A lot of T&C's needs to be addressed.. People have used "Love" to blurr so much common sense. Let's love with our hearts and figure things out with our brains. People should get married to individuals that think and see life from the same point of view. It's simple. There is no excuse for paternity fraud. No excuse to stay in a toxic relationship where cheating is the norm.
The more I watch this show, the more this thought is reinforced "Toun is the only girl here that has sense." 😭 I'm not tryna shade Naomi or the other lady but...😭😭😭 I'm trying to understand their thought process but it's tough to align my moral bearing with their words and actions.
They are not even considering the angle that the child can find out one day and suddenly realise that an important part of his/her life has been a lie. This is where and when the thin line btw love and hate happens.
Keira and Naomi gave bases that are unrelated to the topic. Keira's first example depicted fraud for real but it's not needed in this discussion. It's another topic entirely. Naomi mentioned error - It's different, sis. It's not paternity fraud. I could go on and on. Husband Material, Nedu, and Toun did well.
@@johndipupo I really wish that's the case , but after being a constant viewer of the show . I think you're giving certain " 2x people " way too much of ' benefit of the doubt '🤔😇😅
Naomi, Kiera🤐...if they have men in their lives, I'll advice them to run for their lives. As much as cheating is Not good, paternity fraud is wickedness to both the man and the child!
@@atkings007 ...I still feel that her speech is scripted and if it is, then there should be a disclaimer somewhere coz her role will mislead a whole lot of young naive girls..sometimes watching her talk is so embarrassing
@@kelvinaikay-ubaka9588 I think glitch did justice to that already. There’s a disclaimer at the beginning which says “ opinions and views expressed in this podcast are SOLELY the opinion of the speaker”.
There's a point that everyone seemed to skip is that the case of paternity fraud and the man having a family outside, its still the man that pays for it in both cases.
See as i dey wait, last episode was a blast though i have a few points, the episode with the topic what do you bring to the table, i feel like every opportunity Nedu has to pick on Naomie he takes it to the extreme, and Toun you're a very talented woman, I've in past podcast heard you speak, it's good to listen but it's your own show please try dey talk small na plus i love your voice, husband material omo eh your blood dey hot ooo, at a point it looks like you're deviating from the topic the beauty about it is you always fall back in place, apart from that its a very beautiful podcast... I love you all from the producers to the podcasters... Una Sabi
These ladies are clearly unreasonable (except Toun). The only people that contributed positively to the topic in my opinion were the men and of course Toun.
You might have to learn how to relay your opinion without having to insult or downgrade others. It's called a conversation not a monoversation, sò most certainly different opinions are bound to be explored. Have a great day dear. #respectfully 🖐🏿
I know we as men joke that accountability is women's kryptonite, and rather die than hold themselves accountable for their own poor decisions that affect then and other people negatively, but this is just ridiculous. How can you respond to paternity fraud with.. "get over it" "your life isn't over cuz u are taking care of a kid that isn't yours"... Imagine if a woman gets raped and a man says "get over it your life inst over cuz someone forcefully had sex with you". These women disgust me
Hahahahaha! I have been laughing since the beginning of this show. Well well, according to a lawyer… in Igbo customary law, if a man’s wife goes and gets pregnant for a different man (while married), that child belongs to her husband even though he isn’t the biological father. And this goes the same for the wife when she finds out he impregnates a different woman. The truth is paternity fraud is wrong. No justification to it. It breaks heart and families. However, let’s remember that kids are involved… even if you must get a divorce, would you abandon a child who already calls you father? I won’t blame any man that does though cos I have no idea how I will feel if it were me.
I think DNA tests should be a normal routine in hospitals. To save victims the stress I’m the next 20years. Because if DNA test was a normal procedure in hospitals, nobody will have a cause to disagree with it or say it’s disrespectful. So to save fathers that might fall victim of Paternity fraud the stress, let’s all do a test as a normal procedure. Just to be sure that both parents are parents of the child. SELAH!
Naomi: what were you doing when your wife went to sleep with another person Also said:women cheat because of what their men do What's funny about this is when a man cheats is the man's fault, when a woman also cheats is the man fault This new mentality some women have these days is just crazy when a man cheats it's the man's fault and when a woman cheats it's the woman's fault 💯 don't justify your wrongs with crazy ideology The lack of accountability naomi has is on real. I also see this a lot with some women these days She also said: when the woman mistakenly cheats 😂😂 so na only man dey do things with clear eye Shout out to husband material and nedu 💫
Listening to single ladies like Keira n Naomi argue publicly about this topic, make me realize why marrying most of these so called celebrities, media influencers never works. No shame of any kind.. It's a pity for this our generation. God help us
Having seen recent episodes, it's amazing how much conscious effort Husband Material has put into calming down. He communicates much more calmly and effectively these days 👏
I enjoy this show becose of nedu. I love he way he speaks with so much calmness, Insight and understanding of things. He can be very funny at times lol.
Big ups to Toun. She's a woman with sense. She has more than common sense abeg. We need more women like Toun in this world. I don't agree with all her stands in every episode but she's just the only woman with sense on this show.
Let’s put ourselves in these men shoes , I as a man wouldn’t find it funny raising another’s man child. Transparency should be the core in any marriage, if the child is not his , she should be woman enough to tell the man the truth likewise the men.
Omo fraud na fraud There's literally no scenario where paternity fraud can be justified Which one is get over it Like say arsenal lose match Make i get over say my child is not my child
I feel like woman sometimes should at least allow the men to decide on raising the kids by been transparent about their origins. Hiding a kid under a man's roof that isn't his is borderline WRONG PERIOD.
I suspect that these female guests are proactively considering paternity fraud. Each convo of paternity fraud is being countered by women justifications.
11:30 Husband material your are right. Keria distracting from the topic at hand is called deflection. Women do it a lot when the discussion is going against them.
To be honest with ourselves when a woman gets pregnant there is no way she won’t remember all the people she had sex with which could have resulted to that pregnancy be it her husband or if she is cheating . So her not wanting to think about it or calculating when the last sex occurred is her own decision to either defraud her partner or have faith that the child is for her partner (lol)... Most times these women actually know that the child isn’t for their partner so Naomi and Keira please stop talking blindly.....
Well well, late to the party I am but 3 points; 1. That "cheat your own back” thing no dey ever work. Two wrongs never did make a right. 2. This thing fit pain. Imagine building on a land that you thought was yours only to discover that it wasn'ti yours from the start. 3. I sabi say e dey hard but let's learn to be accountable to persons with whom we have committed relationships with. Whatever happens afterwards happens.
I'm totally in shock as to what Naomi and keira is saying though. Cheating is a related topic but totally different from paternity fraud!. It's the same way you would be shocked to know your husband has other kids outside. Then again, that's the spice to the show.
I tell you Same Naomi said in one episode that she does not mind having a sugar daddy and said she sees nothing wrong with it but now she thinks DNA test is disrespectful to a woman when the man is a cheat yet she is willing to have a relationship with a married man Nawao 😮
This topic is sensitive and emotional..I wont come here and form an opinion like i have fathered a child..I totally feel for any man who have gone through this trauma...I pray he heals and love the children as his own..For the kids, they suffer the most especially when they have grown up to find out that their whole life was a scam...Lastly shoutout to the men who know they have sexual problems, know their wives cheated to save their marriage and dont judge her for a day...It takes emotional maturity and unconditional love for a man to face this issues even if it bruises his ego...Shoutout for kiera, she was a breathe of fresh air...Hope to see her more in the show..
They're actually justifying thé wrongs that women face's is also right without knowing it, we need people with actual morals to be talking #respectfully
@Baby Pluto stop referring to women as “ashawo” at the slightest provocation, it’s immature and gives misogynist vibes. Plus it’s actually getting old at this point. Do better.
Everybody keeps talking about how the women or men feel. The big question actually is...HOW DO YOU EXPECT THE CHILD TO FEEL? Especially when they are old enough to know what is right from wrong. We can do better.
If paternity fraud is a crime, then it should be a crime for a married man to have kids out of wedlock . It should also be a crime for a spouse to infect his/her spouse with an sti
See for me there is no reason or excuse why any woman should give some else child to another person, very very very wrong There is no comparison to what men do, the emotional damage that this situation cause to men is alarming, as parents when we work for our children in our youth we expect our children to look after us in old age if e no be your own e no fit be your own
😅 Chop kizzes to Keira and Naomi😚😚😚😚😚😚😚😚 Nedu.. man up ok🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️😁😁😁 In Igbo culture, men accept children from another man to be their children cos they raise those children like their own and so they become theirs. I laughed well with your funny jokes tho. But fraud of any sort should not be allowed tho.
I think feminism = Dumb’mism. The guest keeps eating her words after finding out she just said absolute rubbish because of her feminist bias. the lady besides husband material is a just majestic to say the least and you could see her cringe when the other ladies say some dumb things. Much love to all of you❤️ job well done
This husband material ehnn… Chai…The guy is the Solomon in this podcast.Very intelligent and wise! DNA should be considered very important immediately after child birth. It is now obvious that women cheat more than men!! Ahaa…Better women no plenty again.. Back in the days, in a given community the unfaithful and wayward people are well known but now we no even fit know cause the majority na em dey wayward and unfaithful..
Comparing paternity fraud to having children outside is absurd Cause having your children and finding out that your husband has other children and you decide to leave him no problem But having to find out that the children isn’t yours and you are to leave that marriage you are going with nothing So they are totally different my dear
I beg please screen people before bringing them on the show... When one finds it hard to call out a bad behavior and is bent on trivializing it for justification, you know the person lacks empathy, morals and is most likely conditioned by trauma or the media in a negative way.
Imagine Naomi and Keira not being controversial in this conversation, how boring it would have been 😒 Controversy is a vibe at times I understand their point tho
If you haven’t experienced it, don’t take it lightly. Most of the participants opinions were based on knowledge not experienced. They don’t really understand the gravity of such unbearable experience. If they have experienced such, they weren’t going to make those justifications. The same way if you haven’t been in a toxic relationship you won’t know the emotional trauma that comes along is the same when you haven’t been lied to about paternity fraud, you’ll have all of the excuses to please your ego.
Husband be calming down for d ladies, allow then to speak n complete their sentence. Very Sensitive topic,No man should be put Tru such Trauma . It's an unforgivable thing to do to any Man
The lady on dread and the one on white is saying rubbish. Lol they’re forming “women supporting women”😏The woman isn’t forced to accept the children and she doesn’t invest financially emotionally and all on the children so how is that equal to paternity fraud. Abeg use your head. If you have a son and his wife does that, buy d wife a gift and congratulate her nonsense . Dumb talk.
Since this is Frankly Speaking and you guys share your opinions frankly and you guys likes seeing things from different sides of view but this Keira and Naomi is off point
Hmmmm, what abt the situation whereby the child was exchanged at the hospital by the nurse nko?cus, I was exchanged at the hospital in ibadan 1993, my mum died immediately she gave birth to me. So 2020, we did a dna test whereby my so called father is not my father. My Dad went ahead and did dna test for my elders and all was positive. So my dad went back to the hospital, requested for the hospital record as at 1993, so later we found out that My so called mother gave birth to male child not (me)famale. Since 2020 till now, i'm homeless and no parents. Who's to be blame? Is my case a paternity fraud???
A paternity test must be done always before you leave the hospital. It should be a requirement sef, before a child gets a man’s name, a paternity test should be done (even by law).
The new lady = Mumu
Naomi = Mumu + Ode.
Nice one Toun and Nedu
Lovely coordination Husband material
Naomi acts very dense and shallow. I really hope it's an act for the show
Nigerians and disrespect...5 and 6
I love your mathematics 🤣
i think she is acting just to make the conversation interesting
Please remember and consider the fact that the whole issue of fraud doesn't only affect the adults. Sometimes kids end up marrying siblings. These things cause psychological and emotional trauma. They grow up planning to migrate to be with their dads and paternity tests required by the embassy shatter the child's world. The hands that rock the cradle rule the world. One doesn't justify the next. If there is doubt, test it out. Love ya'll. Good to hear Naomi change her mind in the end. Nice one sis.
Frank please go get another set of casts, put one student in the midst and record another on same topicZ these girls are not intellectually sane.
@@plentywater773Just watch this now. Those girls are crazy. That is why I stay away from BW
That happened to me exactly. Sad the boy is still in Nigeria now. The mother till today still claims his my son
There's no basis for justifying paternity fraud. It is psychologically devastating especially to the man . Toun actually takes time to analyse the matter at hand and she is very objective rather than taking sides , and avoiding the facts.
Paternity fraud is only physchologically devastating to the man
Nedu and Husband Material spoke well. Unless Noami is acting out a script, she's a disaster waiting to happen.
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Honestly, the 2 of them no get sense
I feel for the podcast to be interesting some people need to talk for while others talk against the topic...so nor too blame Naomi
Who is this girl with brades? She is so corrupt maan.... Justifying nuisance.
Ah swear, that Noami and the other gal dey talk nonsense
As in ehn. Naomi and Kira are really giving ashawo vibes. I won't be even 1% surprised if they are both runs girls because supporting such wickedness takes a lot.
One thing I’ll point out here that they should be careful with - one of them mentioned a woman should leave a man because he’s “shooting blanks” and that not making him “man enough”. That’s very toxic. We don’t want to call women that can’t get pregnant “not woman enough” and suggest men leave them. That girl needs to learn accountability
Understandably a very emotional topic for Nedu. Stay strong fam.
Kira and Naomi are justifying stupidity, It's like saying I killed him because he offended me
Husband material always makes the most sense. People always listen to Husband material 👏🏾
I've watched every single episode of this show and I can't recall a time that Naomi spoke sensibly, lmfao
Lol,she is only playing the devil's advocate and that's why it's called a show.
Imagine, all of them agree at once on a particular topic then there will be no entertainment.
Mehn 💯
Seriously, you can't say that. I don't agree with some of the things she says, but it still points down to her opinion and knowledge. Check her well, there is an arguement for any statement made
@@deborahtemilade3790 no there fvcking isn't
Like she’s never said anything sensible
Deceit is harmful to anyone. You will be questioning your whole existence when you find out your spouse has been hiding anything; it hurts. Trust is important in any relationship. Protect yourself both men and women.
Paternity fraud can never be justifiable...it's just extremely wrong on so many levels.
Thinking about this and conversations about Prenup comes to mind. Ladies say Prenup conversation is disrespectful. DNA conversation is disrespectful. Marriage itself is a contract. A lot of T&C's needs to be addressed.. People have used "Love" to blurr so much common sense. Let's love with our hearts and figure things out with our brains. People should get married to individuals that think and see life from the same point of view. It's simple. There is no excuse for paternity fraud. No excuse to stay in a toxic relationship where cheating is the norm.
The more I watch this show, the more this thought is reinforced "Toun is the only girl here that has sense." 😭 I'm not tryna shade Naomi or the other lady but...😭😭😭 I'm trying to understand their thought process but it's tough to align my moral bearing with their words and actions.
They are not even considering the angle that the child can find out one day and suddenly realise that an important part of his/her life has been a lie. This is where and when the thin line btw love and hate happens.
Keira and Naomi gave bases that are unrelated to the topic.
Keira's first example depicted fraud for real but it's not needed in this discussion. It's another topic entirely.
Naomi mentioned error - It's different, sis. It's not paternity fraud.
I could go on and on.
Husband Material, Nedu, and Toun did well.
I think they usually create opposite sides purposely to make discussions more interesting.
@@johndipupo I really wish that's the case , but after being a constant viewer of the show . I think you're giving certain " 2x people " way too much of ' benefit of the doubt
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Lmaoooo. It’s justifiable until it hits home, and it’s their brother or close friend and family member that becomes a victim of paternity fraud.🥴🥴
We might as well justify yahoo and embezzlement with poverty
Naomi, Kiera🤐...if they have men in their lives, I'll advice them to run for their lives. As much as cheating is Not good, paternity fraud is wickedness to both the man and the child!
My brother. They should japa asap cause wtf
Toun is so calm and only smile when Naomi is talking nonsense, Toun is the best 🌷
She doesn’t have strength for stress. She can’t shout😊
Do u think she would get the job if she doesn’t play that role ...they want u to feel this way
Round is also a fool. She said biological father doesn’t mean the father of the child… these bitches are senseless
Toun
I really hope that Naomi is just playing devils advocate...Coz if this is the way she's wired, mhen she needs a rehab for real
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I’m telling you, if she’s like this in real life she’s obviously worse than the Devil
@@atkings007 ...I still feel that her speech is scripted and if it is, then there should be a disclaimer somewhere coz her role will mislead a whole lot of young naive girls..sometimes watching her talk is so embarrassing
To be honest, her reasoning is something else, justifying nonsense
@@kelvinaikay-ubaka9588 I think glitch did justice to that already. There’s a disclaimer at the beginning which says “ opinions and views expressed in this podcast are SOLELY the opinion of the speaker”.
There's a point that everyone seemed to skip is that the case of paternity fraud and the man having a family outside, its still the man that pays for it in both cases.
LMAO!! Naomi 🤣🤣
The internet never forgets. Na you get your mouth sha.
See as i dey wait, last episode was a blast though i have a few points, the episode with the topic what do you bring to the table, i feel like every opportunity Nedu has to pick on Naomie he takes it to the extreme, and Toun you're a very talented woman, I've in past podcast heard you speak, it's good to listen but it's your own show please try dey talk small na plus i love your voice, husband material omo eh your blood dey hot ooo, at a point it looks like you're deviating from the topic the beauty about it is you always fall back in place, apart from that its a very beautiful podcast... I love you all from the producers to the podcasters... Una Sabi
These ladies are clearly unreasonable (except Toun). The only people that contributed positively to the topic in my opinion were the men and of course Toun.
...except Toun.
Sorry but this show would be boring with proposing and opposing they are not stupid
You might have to learn how to relay your opinion without having to insult or downgrade others. It's called a conversation not a monoversation, sò most certainly different opinions are bound to be explored. Have a great day dear. #respectfully 🖐🏿
@@oluwatosinajayi2625 je
I know we as men joke that accountability is women's kryptonite, and rather die than hold themselves accountable for their own poor decisions that affect then and other people negatively, but this is just ridiculous. How can you respond to paternity fraud with.. "get over it" "your life isn't over cuz u are taking care of a kid that isn't yours"... Imagine if a woman gets raped and a man says "get over it your life inst over cuz someone forcefully had sex with you". These women disgust me
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Hahahahaha! I have been laughing since the beginning of this show. Well well, according to a lawyer… in Igbo customary law, if a man’s wife goes and gets pregnant for a different man (while married), that child belongs to her husband even though he isn’t the biological father. And this goes the same for the wife when she finds out he impregnates a different woman.
The truth is paternity fraud is wrong. No justification to it. It breaks heart and families.
However, let’s remember that kids are involved… even if you must get a divorce, would you abandon a child who already calls you father?
I won’t blame any man that does though cos I have no idea how I will feel if it were me.
The lack of accountability from the women here is frightening “women cheat because of what their men do”? Haha damn women are such angels.
My exact thoughts. What the hell.
I think DNA tests should be a normal routine in hospitals. To save victims the stress I’m the next 20years. Because if DNA test was a normal procedure in hospitals, nobody will have a cause to disagree with it or say it’s disrespectful. So to save fathers that might fall victim of Paternity fraud the stress, let’s all do a test as a normal procedure. Just to be sure that both parents are parents of the child. SELAH!
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Facts. It should be law before the baby get the man’s name.
Bro. If you look at people saying is disrespectful 95% are unfaithful women.
If DNA is disrespectful in the eyes of women. Then, marriage should be a ponzi scheme.
Naomi: what were you doing when your wife went to sleep with another person
Also said:women cheat because of what their men do
What's funny about this is when a man cheats is the man's fault, when a woman also cheats is the man fault
This new mentality some women have these days is just crazy when a man cheats it's the man's fault and when a woman cheats it's the woman's fault 💯 don't justify your wrongs with crazy ideology
The lack of accountability naomi has is on real. I also see this a lot with some women these days
She also said: when the woman mistakenly cheats 😂😂 so na only man dey do things with clear eye
Shout out to husband material and nedu 💫
I hope the way Naomi and Keira thinks is not the same way women in Nigeria thinks.. Cah I’m shocked 😮
Listening to single ladies like Keira n Naomi argue publicly about this topic, make me realize why marrying most of these so called celebrities, media influencers never works. No shame of any kind.. It's a pity for this our generation. God help us
WOW, i love this podcast
this is the best podcast in the world
Lol when Kiera first spoke I love how shocked Nedu was 😅… interesting topic.. on a more serious note IT IS WRONG to cheat at all
Exactly no excuse for cheating
This just shows accountability is like kryptonite to women.
Having seen recent episodes, it's amazing how much conscious effort Husband Material has put into calming down. He communicates much more calmly and effectively these days 👏
When Nedu said, "Kedu onye bu ifa?"🤣🤣🤣.
I don see something wey pass Nedu mouth 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I enjoy this show becose of nedu. I love he way he speaks with so much calmness, Insight and understanding of things. He can be very funny at times lol.
It's happened to to him, nedu knows d pain
Big ups to Toun. She's a woman with sense. She has more than common sense abeg. We need more women like Toun in this world. I don't agree with all her stands in every episode but she's just the only woman with sense on this show.
Abeg what is Keira saying!!..she disappoint me with that her 1st statement!..abeg she is not making sense!!!. NAOMI KEEP QUIET!!
I agree with you bro. Her talk no make sense. She is making it seem like a competition between men and women.
Thank God for husband material bringing the conversation back into context
That Husband material's analogy (Cyber crime & Robbery)... thats a clever argument!
Let’s put ourselves in these men shoes , I as a man wouldn’t find it funny raising another’s man child. Transparency should be the core in any marriage, if the child is not his , she should be woman enough to tell the man the truth likewise the men.
Sleep been full my eye when I start to watch this episode, but the moment your guest open mouth my brain load. WTF did she just say.😢😮
Omo fraud na fraud
There's literally no scenario where paternity fraud can be justified
Which one is get over it
Like say arsenal lose match
Make i get over say my child is not my child
The intro too sweet 😂😂😂
Naomi and d ABA. Women😂😂😂😂😂
I feel like woman sometimes should at least allow the men to decide on raising the kids by been transparent about their origins. Hiding a kid under a man's roof that isn't his is borderline WRONG PERIOD.
I suspect that these female guests are proactively considering paternity fraud.
Each convo of paternity fraud is being countered by women justifications.
So accurate
Tell him if he would raise the kid it is his decision
11:30 Husband material your are right. Keria distracting from the topic at hand is called deflection. Women do it a lot when the discussion is going against them.
Naomi always intentionally saying rubbish is just a form of act 😂😂😂
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Naomi is a Mumu 💀💀 you can’t make this shit up 😂😂
To be honest with ourselves when a woman gets pregnant there is no way she won’t remember all the people she had sex with which could have resulted to that pregnancy be it her husband or if she is cheating .
So her not wanting to think about it or calculating when the last sex occurred is her own decision to either defraud her partner or have faith that the child is for her partner (lol)...
Most times these women actually know that the child isn’t for their partner so Naomi and Keira please stop talking blindly.....
Well well, late to the party I am but 3 points;
1. That "cheat your own back” thing no dey ever work. Two wrongs never did make a right.
2. This thing fit pain. Imagine building on a land that you thought was yours only to discover that it wasn'ti yours from the start.
3. I sabi say e dey hard but let's learn to be accountable to persons with whom we have committed relationships with. Whatever happens afterwards happens.
Husband material is one of the toughest debater here... Very reasonable!
I'm totally in shock as to what Naomi and keira is saying though. Cheating is a related topic but totally different from paternity fraud!. It's the same way you would be shocked to know your husband has other kids outside. Then again, that's the spice to the show.
Naomi intentionally chooses to be annoying 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I hope its a choice to be that way ooo... Because if that's how she really thinks, its dumb.
Exactly lol 😂
She might be the most lovely person there sef in person
I tell you
Same Naomi said in one episode that she does not mind having a sugar daddy and said she sees nothing wrong with it but now she thinks DNA test is disrespectful to a woman when the man is a cheat yet she is willing to have a relationship with a married man Nawao 😮
What is bad is bad, it shouldn't even be justified or compared. If anyone cheats on their partner its bad, no excuse should be made.
Kiera is the definition of fine girl no sense
ɴᴏ ᴄᴀᴘ 🧢ᴍᴇʜɴɴɴ ….. ɪ ᴋᴇᴘᴛ ᴏɴ ʟᴏᴏᴋɪɴɢ ғᴏʀ ʜᴇʀ ɪɴᴛᴇʟʟᴇᴄᴛᴜᴀʟ ᴀɴɢʟᴇ 🤷♂️
Fine ke
Just dey speak polished English, dey make zero sense! Very senseless thing
Came back to watch this episode. Naomi defends rubbish so much it irritates me. Her and kira are not normal
This Naomi confuse pass that bird for Moana
This topic is sensitive and emotional..I wont come here and form an opinion like i have fathered a child..I totally feel for any man who have gone through this trauma...I pray he heals and love the children as his own..For the kids, they suffer the most especially when they have grown up to find out that their whole life was a scam...Lastly shoutout to the men who know they have sexual problems, know their wives cheated to save their marriage and dont judge her for a day...It takes emotional maturity and unconditional love for a man to face this issues even if it bruises his ego...Shoutout for kiera, she was a breathe of fresh air...Hope to see her more in the show..
You are not well at all. Shame on you
Thank God for women like Toun!
Yedu I like your sense of understanding keep ot up
The freaking confidence that Naomi and Kiera have to justify a crime. Then drag gender bias into the mix. A shame.
I swear
They're actually justifying thé wrongs that women face's is also right without knowing it, we need people with actual morals to be talking #respectfully
They seem unintelligent…they Nollywood brainwashed and don’t seem to get what the topic is.
@Baby Pluto stop referring to women as “ashawo” at the slightest provocation, it’s immature and gives misogynist vibes. Plus it’s actually getting old at this point. Do better.
@@doofenshmitz8174 did you watch the podcast that’s what it sounds like
Oga o, this woman totally underplayed this thing biko
Everybody keeps talking about how the women or men feel. The big question actually is...HOW DO YOU EXPECT THE CHILD TO FEEL? Especially when they are old enough to know what is right from wrong. We can do better.
well said!
Them Dey talk paternity fraud, these women talking off key!
I love husband material & nedu's energy soo much..
As a woman, if you have the balls to cheat you should also have the boss tell him she's pregnant for someone else
I really hope Naomi's and Keira's responses are scripted. Because if these are their real life opinions, it's just sad
Lmao 😂 I was thinking the same thing . Probably they didn’t get the topic.
If paternity fraud is a crime, then it should be a crime for a married man to have kids out of wedlock . It should also be a crime for a spouse to infect his/her spouse with an sti
With all the justifications for paternity fraud, all I can say is......... It is finished. SMH
Wow her first few words told me exactly who she is . Women like this should be stayed away from.
See for me there is no reason or excuse why any woman should give some else child to another person, very very very wrong
There is no comparison to what men do, the emotional damage that this situation cause to men is alarming, as parents when we work for our children in our youth we expect our children to look after us in old age if e no be your own e no fit be your own
The is one of the most real conversation of my life
I think FG should make this DNA stuff compulsory so that no one feels disrespected
😅 Chop kizzes to Keira and Naomi😚😚😚😚😚😚😚😚 Nedu.. man up ok🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️😁😁😁 In Igbo culture, men accept children from another man to be their children cos they raise those children like their own and so they become theirs. I laughed well with your funny jokes tho. But fraud of any sort should not be allowed tho.
I think feminism = Dumb’mism. The guest keeps eating her words after finding out she just said absolute rubbish because of her feminist bias. the lady besides husband material is a just majestic to say the least and you could see her cringe when the other ladies say some dumb things. Much love to all of you❤️ job well done
E choke me too oo @oga nedu 😂😂😂
Whattt!!!!!!!!!! Get over it?
I hope Kiara finds out her dad is not her real dad 😏
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fr!!😂
Fr
As in ehn!
Yes you guys are right paternity fraud is not nice at all but don’t forget to do maternity text too because it might just be a case of baby swipe.
This one na mugu😂😭😭😭😭…
@@officialloftysam3845 matured mugu my brother😅😅😅😅😅
Kiera’s opinion on this issue is so terrible 🤮
This husband material ehnn…
Chai…The guy is the Solomon in this podcast.Very intelligent and wise!
DNA should be considered very important immediately after child birth.
It is now obvious that women cheat more than men!!
Ahaa…Better women no plenty again..
Back in the days, in a given community the unfaithful and wayward people are well known but now we no even fit know cause the majority na em dey wayward and unfaithful..
I just taya bro. Women? Kai.
Comparing paternity fraud to having children outside is absurd
Cause having your children and finding out that your husband has other children and you decide to leave him no problem
But having to find out that the children isn’t yours and you are to leave that marriage you are going with nothing
So they are totally different my dear
If na me marry Noami nothing wey no go allow me do DNA 😅🤣🤣.. God Abeg oo
I beg please screen people before bringing them on the show... When one finds it hard to call out a bad behavior and is bent on trivializing it for justification, you know the person lacks empathy, morals and is most likely conditioned by trauma or the media in a negative way.
Imagine Naomi and Keira not being controversial in this conversation, how boring it would have been 😒
Controversy is a vibe at times
I understand their point tho
If you haven’t experienced it, don’t take it lightly. Most of the participants opinions were based on knowledge not experienced. They don’t really understand the gravity of such unbearable experience. If they have experienced such, they weren’t going to make those justifications.
The same way if you haven’t been in a toxic relationship you won’t know the emotional trauma that comes along is the same when you haven’t been lied to about paternity fraud, you’ll have all of the excuses to please your ego.
Nedu wan enter ground listening to that kira babe....🤣🤣🤣🤣
No matter what the excuses are paternity fraud is paternity fraud . Take it or leave it
Husband be calming down for d ladies, allow then to speak n complete their sentence.
Very Sensitive topic,No man should be put Tru such Trauma .
It's an unforgivable thing to do to any Man
The lady on dread and the one on white is saying rubbish. Lol they’re forming “women supporting women”😏The woman isn’t forced to accept the children and she doesn’t invest financially emotionally and all on the children so how is that equal to paternity fraud. Abeg use your head.
If you have a son and his wife does that, buy d wife a gift and congratulate her nonsense . Dumb talk.
E be like I suppose dey this podcast,let me fly to Lagos asap...
Big shout out to husband material, Toun and Nedu❤️
In the intro, the host said that the discussants were all 'highly intelligent'. Lol 🤣😂
Since this is Frankly Speaking and you guys share your opinions frankly and you guys likes seeing things from different sides of view but this Keira and Naomi is off point
This Keira na werey 😂😂💔...... Abeg make una dey invite better people come this show
I'm quite curious, is Naomi saying all these just to balance the conversation or this is how she really thinks?
Hmmmm, what abt the situation whereby the child was exchanged at the hospital by the nurse nko?cus, I was exchanged at the hospital in ibadan 1993, my mum died immediately she gave birth to me. So 2020, we did a dna test whereby my so called father is not my father. My Dad went ahead and did dna test for my elders and all was positive. So my dad went back to the hospital, requested for the hospital record as at 1993, so later we found out that
My so called mother gave birth to male child not (me)famale. Since 2020 till now, i'm homeless and no parents. Who's to be blame? Is my case a paternity fraud???
Chai...I am so sorry for what you went through. God will help you.
What really?
I love Naomi because she always has something to say, but most times she antagonises the right opinion.
Maybe its her role sha
A paternity test must be done always before you leave the hospital. It should be a requirement sef, before a child gets a man’s name, a paternity test should be done (even by law).
Naomi and Keira are the true definition of supporting women's rights and wrongs😹😹
Chukwudi…. You never see landlord wey fine 🤣🤣🤣