this is what makes me excited we could be seeing these around the world again one day nad this make some happy and excited to see these beautiful things sail again
I really never understood why we were so quick to abandon a working mature technology with over 5000 years of R&D behind it. Nice to see it making a come back.
@@Pocketfarmer1 true, but its also true that back then precise navigation and weather forcast was a lot to be desired. Your statement is the same as cars are deadly while looking at 1950s statistics with no safty devices in use.
If I told you its 60-90 days across the atlantic on a sailboat or 20 days using gas and you were paying the wages of 20 sailors, you'd quickly find the more rapid turn around due to other static costs would save you money vs the cost of fuel.
@@Pocketfarmer1 While manning the sails still involves some danger requiring many hands, good speed and timing on the larger crafts, with modern real time forecast and geopositioning we can reliably skip all those movie scenes of ships getting wrecked or lost in a storm. It will never be as popular as it was in the past, but cargo freight is the greatest polluter in transportation (I admit I'm cheating by mentally including the environmental costs of accidents) and if returning some sail ships to the water can dampen the damage a little, why not do that? Maybe using secular designs isn't the best way to go about it without suffering very high shipping costs but while I could point you at some attempts at modernizing sail power for larger scale and increased automation, I'm currently too excited about the prospect of seeing more these beauties around, in fact, whatever I said earlier may just be me trying to give a reason beyond just how cool it sounds.
THE AIR SHIP WILL ALSO RETURN FOR CARGO USE. USING MODERN KNOWLEDGE & TECHNIQUES THEY WILL PROBABLY BE SOLAR POWERED AND USED FOR HEAVY BULK CARGO. ALSO FOR LUXURIOUS, LEISURELY PASSENGER TRAVEL. ⛵⚓
Their project takes the carbon foot print to a new low. The only problem is that it has been under construction for at least two or three years. I don:t think that there is enough time to build the wooden ships needed.
@@charlie70605 Yeh slow fo sho, but i do luv the concept. Steel hull sailing cargo would be the way to go, tadroberts,ca has a 52' & 60' Steel Cargo Schooners designs and Kastenmarine,com has a 100' & 120' Steel Cargo Skipjacks designs.
As soon as I clicked on the video, I recognized the voice as that of Sailing Kate Louise. The cameo of your Stornoway 18 was the clincher. I do hope you're not going to abandon your other channel. Great content BTW.
i've been lamenting that, the days when people would load their sailboats with cargo and sail around the bay ended centuries ago, and i could'nt do that today.
This is nice video of using small sailing ships to carry cargo. The person who says by 2030 there will be no diesel powered ships built must be on some sort of medication. A container ship can be 50,000 tons deadweight, many are double that figure. How do you get it from port A to port B.The last of the great windjammers or cape horners carried between 4,000 and 6,000 tons.
Yea, I was going to say that. With a highly industrial world of 7 billion people, there is no way to trade without container ships and no way to switch the world's entire fleet from oil/diesel in 6 years. Ridiculous.
I like the designs BUT labor costs are going to be too high to run a truly classic rigged vessel. I can see he really wants to bring back both as opportunities. Seawing and low maintenance, higher efficiency automated designs will lead the way. Why would I ever build a vessel that requires 12 full time staff when I can automate almost all of it with seawing and some electrics and maybe 2 to 4 crew?
With the fuel situation ...your might see that happen ... large numbers of vessels no longer able to function because of supply and costs plus the polution caused. ..but the whole JIT supply chain has to change ..its already falling apart due to covid and other crisies.
Not that it is a dumb idea it isn't on the small scale. on the large there is now way. Lets do some simple math though. How many wooden sail cargo boats will it take to replace one mid sized container cargo ship? Well the largest sailing cargo ship had a capacity of 8960 tons one 40 foot container can carry 30 tons. that's 300 "40 foot" containers. And a average container ship can carry 10,000 containers you finish the math. Never mind there is no fully rigged sailing ship that can accommodate even one Intermodal container. and i dont see the whole way a shipping items to change back to the way it was 150 years ago. And lastly using a ban on petrol and diesel cars in the UK to start a video for sailing cargo vessels is dumb. because no ban has yet been announced world wide. Is pretty low. And there is no way the UK will ever meet that 2030 deadline to go 100% electric in eight years.
I sort of agree on the size BUT economics drives everything. With higher fuel prices, you see shipping lower their speeds as to become more fuel efficient. They do this now to save money. Second, I would say I agree that rigged sailing ships are a thing of the past but we've gone beyond the old designs already. Airseas is already testing massive computer controlled kite systems for ships. Given they fly higher, they would be more reliable and with production volume would be much cheaper to maintain than standard sailing equipment. Further, using this would open the deck up to more volume even repurposing of older diesel hulls. I think you will need a saildrive electric battery bank for storms when kites aren't going to work and for harbors. I agree 8 years is too soon but if you put all these technologies together, multiple kites on a streamlined ship for their use, even at the current fuel levels I could see a company being potentially disruptive if not competitive.
You know nothing about commercial sailing ships. Towards the end of sailing, these ships were not wood but steel and could hold massive weight. On it's maiden voyage, the Peking hauled over 5,000 tons of nitrates. I believe it could haul a lot more than that, but I don't have the numbers at this moment. But yes, sailing ships wouldn't be able to hold near as much as a container ship so more would have to be built. But your numbers are WAY off.
@@ironcladranchandforge7292 Ok let’s do some research. The one assumption is that you are referring to the German Empire made Peking see Wikipedia( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peking_(ship) ) ) ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_P-Liner ) My medium sized Freight ship is called a Panamax. ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panamax ) Now it’s time for some math’s Panamax tonnage 52,500 deadweight minus Peking’s 7,800 deadweight Equals the Panamax carries 44,200 more tons than the Peking. Or the Peking would have to make 6+ more trips to carry the same amount. Not counting the sailing time difference between them. And if we compare a modern bulk cargo ship to the Peking a bulk cargo ship the numbers are even worst except the seawaymax (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seawaymax ). But they only operate in the great lakes region. And they still carry 3.6 times more per trip. Are there improvements to be made? Yes of course there is on a new ship using modern sail foils we may be able to do it. But there is no economical way to make an old sail plan like the Peking economically viable. Never mind my main gripe with this video was that the in it. It stated that the UK was going to outlaw diesel ships by 2030. I have not found a law from the UK that states that. If you can I will gladly change my mind. Thanks for the good argument. I love doing research. And if you can prove your point with quantifiable research as I did, I will change my mind. But as “Jerry Maguire said show me the money”
Ha ha ha ha . Talk about deluded. How the hell are you going to move any modern amount of cargo economically when you have any sort of structure above deck to impede the overhead equipment required to lift current bulk shipping containers? Thats why containers were invented. Nice to be blown about our oceans at the whim of currents, tides and winds.The question is how to make it economical , practical and efficient. Sailing 100 tons of coconuts from the Pacific Islands or to or from Asia to America or Europe isnt going to pay the bills.Dreamers. Imagine if you had to wait for your Chinese made I Phone to come in a sailing ship that might take 3 months to reach you. The next model phone would be in fashion before the last model arrived.
this is what makes me excited we could be seeing these around the world again one day nad this make some happy and excited to see these beautiful things sail again
I really never understood why we were so quick to abandon a working mature technology with over 5000 years of R&D behind it. Nice to see it making a come back.
While true that sailing has the longest history and great romance, sailing ships where perhaps the most deadly form of transportation man has devised.
@@Pocketfarmer1 true, but its also true that back then precise navigation and weather forcast was a lot to be desired. Your statement is the same as cars are deadly while looking at 1950s statistics with no safty devices in use.
@@janisber111 Thank you, Janis. I couldn't have said it better myself.
If I told you its 60-90 days across the atlantic on a sailboat or 20 days using gas and you were paying the wages of 20 sailors, you'd quickly find the more rapid turn around due to other static costs would save you money vs the cost of fuel.
@@Pocketfarmer1 While manning the sails still involves some danger requiring many hands, good speed and timing on the larger crafts, with modern real time forecast and geopositioning we can reliably skip all those movie scenes of ships getting wrecked or lost in a storm. It will never be as popular as it was in the past, but cargo freight is the greatest polluter in transportation (I admit I'm cheating by mentally including the environmental costs of accidents) and if returning some sail ships to the water can dampen the damage a little, why not do that?
Maybe using secular designs isn't the best way to go about it without suffering very high shipping costs but while I could point you at some attempts at modernizing sail power for larger scale and increased automation, I'm currently too excited about the prospect of seeing more these beauties around, in fact, whatever I said earlier may just be me trying to give a reason beyond just how cool it sounds.
And that fleet is growing 👍✨😎👏⛵️
I've known for 30 years that sails would return for cargo ships.
THE AIR SHIP WILL ALSO RETURN FOR CARGO USE. USING MODERN KNOWLEDGE & TECHNIQUES THEY WILL PROBABLY BE SOLAR POWERED AND USED FOR HEAVY BULK CARGO. ALSO FOR LUXURIOUS, LEISURELY PASSENGER TRAVEL. ⛵⚓
Have you seen Sail Cargo from Costa Rica? They're building a four-masted square rigger.
Their project takes the carbon foot print to a new low. The only problem is that it has been under construction for at least two or three years. I don:t think that there is enough time to build the wooden ships needed.
how about TRES HOMBRES, love their rum !!!
Sailcargo Inc. Costa Rica is building a 3 Mast Schooner you must have mistaken that with the Falls of Clyde that is being saved from Hawaii.
@@charlie70605 Yeh slow fo sho, but i do luv the concept. Steel hull sailing cargo would be the way to go, tadroberts,ca has a 52' & 60' Steel Cargo Schooners designs and Kastenmarine,com has a 100' & 120' Steel Cargo Skipjacks designs.
@@charlie70605 wood sucks use steel it last far longer.
As soon as I clicked on the video, I recognized the voice as that of Sailing Kate Louise. The cameo of your Stornoway 18 was the clincher. I do hope you're not going to abandon your other channel. Great content BTW.
This looks like an excellent idea. I do hope there are safety systems in place as well.
i've been lamenting that, the days when people would load their sailboats with cargo and sail around the bay ended centuries ago, and i could'nt do that today.
now today that's coming back! but with modern technology it will make them easier to unload and sail with modern safety and technology of today
Diesel ‘banned’ for cargo ships by 2030?? Absolute rubbish…!
diesel will not be banned in 2030, why lie
Aye, I recognize this voice too! I might have some dead potato next week. 😮 ..... while I watch dinghy sailing.
mashalla
No diesel by 2030 for shipping is so unattainable, it's a joke.
This is nice video of using small sailing ships to carry cargo. The person who says by 2030 there will be no diesel powered ships built must be on some sort of medication. A container ship can be 50,000 tons deadweight, many are double that figure. How do you get it from port A to port B.The last of the great windjammers or cape horners carried between 4,000 and 6,000 tons.
Yea, I was going to say that. With a highly industrial world of 7 billion people, there is no way to trade without container ships and no way to switch the world's entire fleet from oil/diesel in 6 years. Ridiculous.
Green funding will work, wind turbines, sail cargo ships.hydrogen.
I like the designs BUT labor costs are going to be too high to run a truly classic rigged vessel. I can see he really wants to bring back both as opportunities. Seawing and low maintenance, higher efficiency automated designs will lead the way. Why would I ever build a vessel that requires 12 full time staff when I can automate almost all of it with seawing and some electrics and maybe 2 to 4 crew?
How much it cost to build this ship?
Possibly less than a electric ship, that costs a third more than conventional
@@seanogallchoir3237 even probably less than a convention one too!
With our government trying to win over the pacific its time to step up
In your head diesel be banned in 6 years. What bs lost what little credibility the narrator had.
Sorry diesel powered ships are going nowhere soon.
With the fuel situation ...your might see that happen ... large numbers of vessels no longer able to function because of supply and costs plus the polution caused. ..but the whole JIT supply chain has to change ..its already falling apart
due to covid and other crisies.
In the EU hybrid and electric ships will operate. Diesel ships may no longer be allowed in EU waters or Ports
@@seanogallchoir3237 the technology for electric ships are not here, for other than driving short distances
Yes they are. They are going to all the major ports around the world.
Not that it is a dumb idea it isn't on the small scale. on the large there is now way.
Lets do some simple math though. How many wooden sail cargo boats will it take to replace one mid sized container cargo ship? Well the largest sailing cargo ship had a capacity of 8960 tons one 40 foot container can carry 30 tons. that's 300 "40 foot" containers. And a average container ship can carry 10,000
containers you finish the math.
Never mind there is no fully rigged sailing ship that can accommodate even one Intermodal container. and i dont see the whole way a shipping items to change back to the way it was 150 years ago.
And lastly using a ban on petrol and diesel cars in the UK to start a video for sailing cargo vessels is dumb. because no ban has yet been announced world wide. Is pretty low.
And there is no way the UK will ever meet that 2030 deadline to go 100% electric in eight years.
A container ship lost 689 containers in January 2021 from China to US Maersk.Essen. as a result of parametric resonance.
I sort of agree on the size BUT economics drives everything. With higher fuel prices, you see shipping lower their speeds as to become more fuel efficient. They do this now to save money.
Second, I would say I agree that rigged sailing ships are a thing of the past but we've gone beyond the old designs already. Airseas is already testing massive computer controlled kite systems for ships. Given they fly higher, they would be more reliable and with production volume would be much cheaper to maintain than standard sailing equipment. Further, using this would open the deck up to more volume even repurposing of older diesel hulls. I think you will need a saildrive electric battery bank for storms when kites aren't going to work and for harbors.
I agree 8 years is too soon but if you put all these technologies together, multiple kites on a streamlined ship for their use, even at the current fuel levels I could see a company being potentially disruptive if not competitive.
You know nothing about commercial sailing ships. Towards the end of sailing, these ships were not wood but steel and could hold massive weight. On it's maiden voyage, the Peking hauled over 5,000 tons of nitrates. I believe it could haul a lot more than that, but I don't have the numbers at this moment. But yes, sailing ships wouldn't be able to hold near as much as a container ship so more would have to be built. But your numbers are WAY off.
@@ironcladranchandforge7292 Ok let’s do some research. The one assumption is that you are referring to the German Empire made Peking see Wikipedia( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peking_(ship) ) ) ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_P-Liner )
My medium sized Freight ship is called a Panamax. ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panamax )
Now it’s time for some math’s Panamax tonnage 52,500 deadweight minus Peking’s 7,800 deadweight
Equals the Panamax carries 44,200 more tons than the Peking. Or the Peking would have to make 6+ more trips to carry the same amount. Not counting the sailing time difference between them.
And if we compare a modern bulk cargo ship to the Peking a bulk cargo ship the numbers are even worst except the seawaymax (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seawaymax ). But they only operate in the great lakes region. And they still carry 3.6 times more per trip.
Are there improvements to be made? Yes of course there is on a new ship using modern sail foils we may be able to do it. But there is no economical way to make an old sail plan like the Peking economically viable.
Never mind my main gripe with this video was that the in it. It stated that the UK was going to outlaw diesel ships by 2030. I have not found a law from the UK that states that. If you can I will gladly change my mind.
Thanks for the good argument. I love doing research. And if you can prove your point with quantifiable research as I did, I will change my mind. But as “Jerry Maguire said show me the money”
Only 36 containers? 😅 A real vessel loads 24000 containers. Get real man. This whole climate hoax is too much. Stop it. Get help.
Ha ha ha ha . Talk about deluded. How the hell are you going to move any modern amount of cargo economically when you have any sort of structure above deck to impede the overhead equipment required to lift current bulk shipping containers? Thats why containers were invented. Nice to be blown about our oceans at the whim of currents, tides and winds.The question is how to make it economical , practical and efficient.
Sailing 100 tons of coconuts from the Pacific Islands or to or from Asia to America or Europe isnt going to pay the bills.Dreamers. Imagine if you had to wait for your Chinese made I Phone to come in a sailing ship that might take 3 months to reach you. The next model phone would be in fashion before the last model arrived.