Lila Is Revealed To Be Manon From The Future In Miraculous Season 6?!

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  • @NusratHossainShoshi
    @NusratHossainShoshi Рік тому +519

    I just realised Alix's akumatized form (Timebreaker) & her superheroine alter ego(Bunnix) has the same abilities and that's time travelling.

  • @trexadvent4726
    @trexadvent4726 Рік тому +164

    If Marinette found out about this, Do you think she would try to do something to make Manon a better person and show that the truth is better than any lie so that Lila gets erased from existence?

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому +19

      Manon skin is darker
      Also Lila propably have Mythomania also know as Pathological lying

    • @themiraclebox8519
      @themiraclebox8519 Рік тому +2

      ​@@polishalastor142she doesn't, they same the same skin color

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому +1

      @@themiraclebox8519 Lila skin is light

    • @themiraclebox8519
      @themiraclebox8519 Рік тому +8

      @@polishalastor142 did you even study in class? Have you ever learned science? Several people's skin gets lighter when they grow up and the lila skin lighter is definitely because of animation quality. In S1 she has the same color as manon

    • @gowriathaudha6059
      @gowriathaudha6059 7 місяців тому +4

      If Marinette change Manon / Lila’s younger version Lila won’t be erased from existence but this lying personality of Lila will be replaced by the Lila’s kind version. Yes if Lila’s personality changes she won’t come to the past in the first place.

  • @CK-solutions
    @CK-solutions Рік тому +133

    What I find so interesting about Lila's vision board, is that everything stems from Adrien's photograph. It's like she started with him - knowing he plays a pivotal role in the future she comes from. Which makes me wonder what happens to Adrien in the future? Is it good, is it bad - is it because he discovered he was a sentimonster, or his father was Monarch?

    • @ЛіліяЧерлінка
      @ЛіліяЧерлінка 11 місяців тому +5

      But Adrien isn't a sentimonster, that's Felix!

    • @ЛіліяЧерлінка
      @ЛіліяЧерлінка 11 місяців тому +5

      Don't you remember that? It was told by Felix himself in episode 24, "Representation"

    • @ЛіліяЧерлінка
      @ЛіліяЧерлінка 11 місяців тому +1

      Or.. maybe I misunderstood it…

    • @CK-solutions
      @CK-solutions 11 місяців тому +10

      @@ЛіліяЧерлінка My understanding of Representation" is that Adrien was conceived first, using the Peacock miraculous. Which is why Colton (Felix's dad) got jealous and confronted Gabriel for knowing how his wife was able to conceived (Emilie) but Colton's wife (Amilie) couldn't.
      That's when Gabriel gave him the Peacock miraculous. Felix was conceived only after Adrien was - both using the Peacock miraculous. Which is why Emilie and Colton died, after using it. So both Adrien and Felix are sentimonsters.

    • @ЛіліяЧерлінка
      @ЛіліяЧерлінка 11 місяців тому +1

      @@CK-solutions Oh, i got it. Thank you 🙏🏼

  • @Itzyahrose
    @Itzyahrose Рік тому +71

    Lila being manon would be huge

  • @NH.to.animation
    @NH.to.animation Рік тому +188

    If Lila was Manon
    Why did she have to obtain the miraculous from Gabriel instead of simply taking it back in time with her?

    • @St4rz22
      @St4rz22 Рік тому +12

      I Never Thought Of That

    • @St4rz22
      @St4rz22 Рік тому +19

      Maybe Because in That Timeline Lila Lost It Somehow Or Lost To Ladybug And Cat Noir And Now She's Trying Not To Make The Same Mistake So She Needs To get It again?

    • @NH.to.animation
      @NH.to.animation Рік тому +9

      @@St4rz22 if she lost it how did she akumatise timetager🤔

    • @NH.to.animation
      @NH.to.animation Рік тому +8

      ​@@St4rz22also ladybug and cat noire would probably defeat timetager first so he doesn't keep changing the past

    • @St4rz22
      @St4rz22 Рік тому +10

      @@NH.to.animation (Once They Defeat Lila in the future she doesn't found out the identity of ladybug) Maybe She Saw Bunnix Do Something And Get Into On Of Her Portals And Goes into a different timeline to get the butterfly miraculous, Why Doesn't She Use It To in that timeline? Because They Already Know Her Identity! So She Aqumatizes Someone That Has The Power Of Time Incase Of Anything Like Future Ladybug Bug And Cat Noir Coming Into The Present.

  • @JordantheHedgehogsonicfan
    @JordantheHedgehogsonicfan Рік тому +171

    Rebut time: in her first episode, Lila found the page of the fox hero in the guardian tome 'interesting.' This completely derails the theory since Rena Rouge is now a permanent member of team miraculous again, so everyone should know about the fox supper hero in the future, yet when Lila sees that hero, she speaks as if it was the first time seeing her. Manon would know of the fox superhero, she controlled her in puppeteer 2. Yes, Lila lies to others, but she had no reason to lie because she wasn’t aware that anybody else was watching. So she must not know of the fox hero, therefore she can't be Manon from the future.

    • @Poke_Miracle_Owl_Universe
      @Poke_Miracle_Owl_Universe Рік тому

      No you're being stupid. Even if she is Manon from the future she could have found that specific Fox miraculous holder to be interesting.

    • @kylemerlo9488
      @kylemerlo9488 Рік тому +31

      One slight flaw in your reasoning.
      People say interesting when it catches their attention. The image could have caght Lila's interest because it reminded her of Rena Rouge. That could be why she found it interesting. She could have also meant that she knew what the powers were (if she learned how to read the codes in her past) and found the powers 'interesting'/useful

    • @stefaniarusso
      @stefaniarusso Рік тому +4

      @@kylemerlo9488 yeah I agree

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому +3

      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation In most cases

    • @AvaGodislove1287
      @AvaGodislove1287 Рік тому +9

      @@polishalastor142Not 100% True! In real life someone I know during her teen years became literally 5 shades lighter and looks nothing like how she looks from childhood! It just depends on genetics!

  • @Dawid23_Gamer
    @Dawid23_Gamer Рік тому +36

    You know, considering how perfectly Lila managed to predict the events in the season 5 finale to the point of arriving just before the wish was made almost on cue to snatch the butterfly miraculous, her being from the future might actually make sense. That, or she is the result of some Gimmi wish

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 місяців тому +2

      She is a pathetic liar
      She was confirmed as 19-21yrs old

    • @Dawid23_Gamer
      @Dawid23_Gamer 11 місяців тому +6

      @@polishalastor142 being a manipulator is very different from perfectly predicting events the way she did leading up to the finale. Let me reitterate that she came to the Agreste mansion *shortly before the wish was made.* Either she has supernatural analytic skills (which complements her manipulative abilities), she is from the future or she simply knew what to do as a consequence of someone's wish (or perhaps even her own, who knows).

    • @ЛіліяЧерлінка
      @ЛіліяЧерлінка 11 місяців тому +1

      Oh. My. God… that's dreadfully 😦

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 місяців тому

      @@Dawid23_Gamer Right
      She even Could be from Parallel Universe

    • @littlelion5013
      @littlelion5013 8 місяців тому +2

      That actually makes sense alot towards the end she was the right places at the right time she could be from the future

  • @kalpnagarg9188
    @kalpnagarg9188 Рік тому +28

    This theory is becoming quite popular now

  • @CK-solutions
    @CK-solutions Рік тому +41

    The theory makes sense, but Manon's complexion is darker and unlike Lila, she actually likes Marinette. I thought it was more likely that Lila is the future child of Kagami and Felix. She has Kagami's eye colour (as Cerise) and eye shape. She also has Felix's face shape and need to pose as someone you're not.
    What put me onto this theory is the backdrop we see in her secret lair. It's a painted mural of a giant blue wave. This pays homage to a famous Japanese Painting, today. Kagami is Japanese. She is also an artist. To me, the backdrop in her lair, speaks of her background/origin story.
    I think she took the art classes to connect to Kagami, who she intended to befriend. I also have a theory that Alix is the future child of Adrien and Marinette. Her hair mimics her parents, her Bunnyx costume mimics Cat Noir's - and her weapon is an umbrella. Hello Adrienette shippers - how is that not obvious? 😋 The unicorn she won from Rose, is the first to disappear in Cat Blanc. That's why she started to disappear too. It was changing the timeline she was conceived in.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому +11

      Hello
      Alix at Present day have Father and Brother
      So
      She isn't Child of Marinette and Adrien

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому +5

      That theory about Alix is wrong

    • @CK-solutions
      @CK-solutions Рік тому +3

      @@polishalastor142 They aren't her biological family. They're her adopted family.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому +3

      @@CK-solutions It doesn't matter if she is adopted or not ,she have a Family
      Umbrella as a weapon doesn't mean Alix is Adrien and Marinette daughter

    • @CK-solutions
      @CK-solutions Рік тому +10

      @@polishalastor142 Yes, she has a family and a very good one. But her biological parents could still be Adrienette. Hear me out. Her adopted father was the one who put all the collections together in the museum, which have to do with the Miraculous. He shipped in the stone that held "Feast", Master Fu's sentimonster. He put together all the past Ladybug's secret monuments aka: Reunion.
      It's like this guy knows something special about his adopted daughter, so he gives her (not his son - the eldest) a family heirloom. Saying she would need it one day. Which just happened to be the hidden rabbit Miraculous that would signal Alix, to meet Ladybug @ the meuseum (aka: Time Tagger).
      He adopted Alix, knowing her parents were special and she was pivotal to the future. He had been planning for her to leave the way she did, all along. Because her parents told him, because they were from the future. They hid Alix in the past, as a baby, to protect her. Just as they did when she was first given the Rabbit Miraculous, as a young adult.
      Adrienette doesn't know it yet, but she's their daughter.

  • @bronyh4569
    @bronyh4569 Рік тому +60

    I believe Lila/cerise was only at Sabine's class to try to establish trust with Sabine, the mother of the person she hates the most. As for Nadia, I think it is reasonable to assume the reason she is on Lila/Cerise's radar is because that is how she gets most of her information on Cat Noir and Ladybug. Plus if Lila/Cerise can make Nadia think that Ladybug and Cat Noir are bad guys, Nadia can use her position to spread mistrust amongst Paris in Ladybug and Cat Noir.
    Parts of this theory are hard to believe. Then again so was believing Adrien and Felix being sentimonsters. I Don't think it is impossible upon reflection, However, I did notice some flaws in the theory.
    Manon likes Marinette I don't see why that would change in the future. Yes, Manon gets upset with Marinette at times while she is babysitting her, but that is just how kids are. To think Manon kept such a pity grudge for so long is hard to believe. As for the puppeteer, Manon wanted the dolls that belonged to Marinette. Hawk Moth gave Manon powers to claim the dolls and control them so she could play the game she wanted to play and have the outcome she wanted.
    Also if Lila/Cerise is Manon from the future wouldn't her going back in time disrupt the timeline. Sure majority of the cast wouldn't notice but I feel like if Manon did try to go back into the past then Bunnyx would have stepped in and fixed the timeline. Also if Timetagger did send Manon back in time with his powers shouldn't Ladybug's magical ladybugs put Manon back in her proper timeline like how they did with everyone else affected by Timetagger's powers. Manon couldn't give Chris the power to do that unless she had the butterfly miraculous. If Lila/cerise has the butterfly Miraculous in that moment of the storyline then how did Manon travel back in time. Bunnyx wouldn't have taken her and why would Manon go back in time to begin with. What is her reasoning? There are definitely some holes in this theory that need to be filled, but it isn't improbable.
    Now if this theory were to become reality I think Chris could have developed feelings for Manon throughout the show. If Lila/Cerise is Manon and she did go back in time and take on the identity of Lila/Cerise then that would explain why Timetagger traveled back in time. Chris/Timetagger is looking for the girl he loves. With the future Manon gone Chris would start seeking answers and rely on Lila/Cerise's help to find her. I think it is still a stretch at this point, but I will keep my eye out for more evidence once season 6 comes around. We will just have to wait and see how this storyline plays out.

    • @stefaniarusso
      @stefaniarusso Рік тому +4

      Yes 😊

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      Canonically Adrien and Felix are Senti
      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation In most of

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      Lila propably have Mythomania also know as Pathological lying

    • @bronyh4569
      @bronyh4569 Рік тому

      @@polishalastor142 that would explain a lot

    • @Hotgirlenergy
      @Hotgirlenergy Рік тому

      If it is true, and there are still potholes, I wouldn’t be surprised because the show isn’t very great. Feeling fat holes.😂plot

  • @viktor504
    @viktor504 Рік тому +18

    Also he said the designs have meaning to them so it would make sense for Lila to have those two little ponytail thingies to resemble manons ponytails

    • @Nwjns_ae
      @Nwjns_ae Рік тому +4

      That’s so true

  • @jakalope-sg8pu
    @jakalope-sg8pu Рік тому +35

    First someone says Mark is Marinette and Adrien's son from the future and now this. There's something you didn't think of, Bunnyx monitors disruptions in the timeline so don't you think she'd detect something like that?

    • @electrobob992
      @electrobob992 Рік тому +2

      Unless, hear me out....
      She HAD to bring her back in time, supposedly Bunnix is the reason she's in a different time.
      Probably to avoid paradoxes.

    • @jakalope-sg8pu
      @jakalope-sg8pu Рік тому +6

      @@electrobob992 wouldn't Manon's future self and past self living in the same time period also cause problems? So why would Bunnyx intentionally bring her to the past? It just doesn't make sense to me.

    • @CK-solutions
      @CK-solutions Рік тому +1

      I didn't hear about Marc, but I theorised Bunnyx is Marinette and Adrien's, future daughter. Bunnyx is keeping a lot of things secret, under her "umbrella". Hello, Adrienette shippers - that particular weapon should have made it obvious. 🤣 Bunnyx hints at this in the episode Time tagger, where she says - I know who you are mini bug, and a lot of other things.
      Which could elude to other future children, showing up in her parents timeline too. Just like her. Someone like Lila perhaps. Who is not actually Manon but her cousin. Care of Felagami. 🙃😉

    • @Averoo_x
      @Averoo_x Рік тому +1

      she literally has a father tho?? who is obviously not adrien 😭
      @@CK-solutions

    • @CK-solutions
      @CK-solutions Рік тому +1

      @@Averoo_x Adopted father, who just happened to be the museum curator responsible for compiling the Ladybug monuments (aka: Reunion) and shipped the stone holding Master Fu's sentimonster (aka: Feast). He also gave the family heirloom, that was a disguised Miraculous to his second born, not his son - the eldest. Saying to Alix, she would need it one day.
      That day happened to be in Time-tagger, when it held the message for Ladybug to come find her - where? In another monument her adopted father just happened to ship into the museum. In that episode, adult Alix just happens to be wearing an outfit, almost identical to Marinette's grandmother in Befana. The flower print on her shirt is one that Marinette designed, and is hanging on the wall in her bedroom.

  • @guillermogarcia3709
    @guillermogarcia3709 Рік тому +38

    Are you sure Lila is Manon because to make sure if that’s true, someone’s got a scan if their DNAs are officially match because you can’t tell if she is her if their DNAs are not scanned to check if they’re officially match

    • @kpc9602
      @kpc9602 Рік тому +7

      I hope there’ll be the DNA part in one of the future season 6 episodes

    • @stefaniarusso
      @stefaniarusso Рік тому +1

      ​@@kpc9602yeah same here ❤

    • @guillermogarcia3709
      @guillermogarcia3709 Рік тому +2

      But I hope Marrinette and adrien and Gabriel and Natalie and Chloe don’t get surprised and disappointed that Lila as cerise was really Manon the whole time and they bin dub by a fake person this whole time and let’s hope it doesn’t make them really upset because you never how grumpy they’ll be at her

    • @guillermogarcia3709
      @guillermogarcia3709 Рік тому +1

      And don’t forget about same thing Manon mom too

    • @stefaniarusso
      @stefaniarusso Рік тому +1

      @@guillermogarcia3709 yeah I agree

  • @sergioandrade8735
    @sergioandrade8735 Рік тому +26

    Another theory, the only thing that Lila said was true when she first appeared was that she is the descendant of a Fox superhero.

  • @ephridachirambo
    @ephridachirambo Рік тому +16

    That's impossible, Lila came before timetagger showed up

    • @vishanthfishy
      @vishanthfishy Рік тому +9

      The jist is that timetagger went to that point after dropping lila off in the s1 timeline he then made a solo route to s3 timeline as a distraction for Adult Bunnyx so she would not see Lila. It also explains why Lila wore a disguise all the way back in s1 when she didn't really even need to hide from anyone, she was hiding from Bunnyx the whole time. Bunnyx is the thorn to her entire plan and is the reason she needs to keep changing identities. I would bet money that the blue light Lila saw at the end of S5 is adult Bunnyx portal hence why she screamed

  • @taegijihope4895
    @taegijihope4895 Рік тому +13

    I find it very strange, we don't see lila and manon appear at the same time in one episode also throughout the new season manon didn't show up on season 4 and 5(spoiler alert? Even though its not a spoiler)

  • @jennifernewkirk4747
    @jennifernewkirk4747 Рік тому +28

    I support this theory. I always thought Lila could be from the future. Why else would she dupe three women into thinking she their daughter?

    • @deviousangel336
      @deviousangel336 Рік тому +9

      I'm still confused by how she did that

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation
      In most cases

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      Lila propably have Mythomania also know as Pathological lying

    • @deviousangel336
      @deviousangel336 Рік тому +4

      @polishalastor142 The creators can't even keep Lila's skin tone consistent. I wouldn't use it as evidence for either for or against.
      Also, I doubt that the writers would just make her a pathological liar for no reason. She has to have some sort of motive.

    • @CK-solutions
      @CK-solutions Рік тому +4

      She's changing her identity to throw Bunnyx off her tail. Precisely because she is from the future, and trying to meddle in the past. But she's not Manon. She's yet to be conceived by Felix and Kagami. Cousin to Bunnyx. Future child of Adrien and Marinette.
      Bunnyx behaves like her father, and Lila, likewise'.

  • @CreativeStoryteller35
    @CreativeStoryteller35 Рік тому +12

    Interesting theory. I like where this is going. This will probably replace the sentimonster theory now that it has come true.

    • @stefaniarusso
      @stefaniarusso Рік тому +4

      Yes I agree ❤❤❤

    • @notdylan2983
      @notdylan2983 Рік тому +1

      it has?

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation
      In most cases
      Lila Being Manon is just a Theory

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      ​​@@notdylan2983Felix and Adrien and also Kagami are Senti

  • @akirayamaguchithekitsune4010
    @akirayamaguchithekitsune4010 Рік тому +15

    But if Mamon and Lila meet to get her timeline corrupt just like Flashpoint

  • @Cat5988
    @Cat5988 Рік тому +16

    I had a funny feeling about Manon.💭🤔

    • @kpc9602
      @kpc9602 Рік тому +4

      I’m actually starting to have that feeling too, if I’m season 1 (Stormy Weather) when Manon and Alya were being saved by Ladybug and Cat Noir

    • @Cat5988
      @Cat5988 Рік тому +3

      @@kpc9602 You and me both.

    • @stefaniarusso
      @stefaniarusso Рік тому +3

      ​@@kpc9602yeah totally agree

  • @faithnorthrup8626
    @faithnorthrup8626 Рік тому +1

    Video shows a pretty awesome theory and never know after a lot of people with the rising that Adrian was a monster monster for a long time.

  • @jellychan6146
    @jellychan6146 2 місяці тому +3

    5:31 Manon and Chris, fighting over the Bunny kwami, almost seems like a hint 👀👀👀

  • @autisticgirlawareness7420
    @autisticgirlawareness7420 2 місяці тому +2

    Or Lyla is a Sentimonster because she’s too perfect in her own way especially at lying and manipulating.What if one of her moms’ have her amok one is deaf could it be because they also used the Peacock miraculous to create Lyla aka Cerise? This theory would explain a lot . This theory I have also explains why she has a lot of moms’.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Місяць тому

      Only Adrien , Felix and Kagami are Senti
      Lila Could Have Mythomania also know as Pathological lying

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Місяць тому

      Her deaf mom Could be deaf from birth

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Місяць тому

      But Not bad theory 🤔😉

  • @hokie2323
    @hokie2323 Рік тому +15

    This will probably happen because two other fan theories (Adrien being a sentimonster and Lila not really being Lila) ended up being true. Maybe the Miraculous creators found out about those theories and made it true.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation

    • @nemelysia
      @nemelysia Рік тому +4

      My theory outside of theories about plot points in the show, is that the creators have a set storyline, but then when interesting plot twist fan theories start circulating, the really popular ones that gain a lot of traction, they use to alter the story just a bit. The first clue in was chat blanc. There were fanfictions involving an akumarized chat noir, named chat blanc, way before anyone knew about the actual chat blanc. They probably already planned for cat to be akumatized at some point as a what if alternate time line scenario, which is what happened, without the fanfictions, but nonetheless, it was a pretty spot on coincidence. Then, the fanfiction name of princess justice was used well before the first time Marinette almost got akumatized. Once again, could be considered a crazy coincidence. But... following those fanfiction names or scenarios, we then come to the Adrien being a sentimonster theory. I just binge watched the series from season one to the season 5 finale to really remember everything and try to connect the dots that previously went unnoticed. It was until well after the sentimonster theories came about that the writers actually started throwing in hints about Adrien being a sentimonster. The theory became so popular so quickly, they were quick to react and start adding in those details which is probably why so many episodes were delayed and such. They had to tweak the story to include the theory. Probably not that hard to do. But now this theory about Lila and Manon being the same person, will probably end up being true. I'm calling it now that in season 6 we are going to start seeing a lot of strong hints to this being true. I think the writers just keep an eye on theories because it's a strong indication of what fans want to happen and they use that to gain more of a following due to this. It's honestly smart on their part to do that, keep the fans intrigued rather than disappointed.

  • @BillBurrCasper
    @BillBurrCasper Рік тому +21

    Manon could be like her future self(Lila) due to having an absent mother

  • @Megumi_2017
    @Megumi_2017 Рік тому +21

    That's really odd but could manon be Lila's little sister

    • @kpc9602
      @kpc9602 Рік тому +5

      If whether Nadja mentioned about Manon’s “sibling/s”

    • @stefaniarusso
      @stefaniarusso Рік тому +4

      ​@@kpc9602yes I agree

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому +1

      They skin is different
      Also Lila is 🇮🇹

    • @cookinglikeachefima5starmi235
      @cookinglikeachefima5starmi235 5 місяців тому

      @@polishalastor142 Lila being italian is one of her fake identies lol bf

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 5 місяців тому

      @@cookinglikeachefima5starmi235 She isn't propably even italian

  • @sandrawilliams302
    @sandrawilliams302 2 місяці тому +1

    Lila would need to be the new Hawkmoth for some years because Chris has grown up in Timetagger.

  • @GothNebula
    @GothNebula Рік тому +2

    It’s a possible theory but maybe not. Manon is just a kid but spoiled too. Same eye color and same hair color, sometimes as we get older, skin tone and hair color can sometimes change over time but not our eye color.
    I mean we haven’t seen much of Manon in season 5. Maybe something did happen while at the same time, Lila makes a few major episodes.
    My theory besides that, I just assume that Lila (whatever her real name is) could simply be an orphan and learned to make lies to survive or something. I could be wrong.
    Ever since in Revelation, she stole Gabriel’s secrets like the photos when he used to be Gabi Grassette, it was like the a mystery foreshadow that somehow connects with Lila. She never mentioned about her father. If her fake name Lila Rossi is not her real name, we don’t know if Cerise is her actual name but her full name is unknown. Definitely a foreshadow between her and Gabi Grassette. I have a feeling that she was abandoned by Gabi before he changed his name to Gabriel Agreste to hide or is on the run from the law. I could be wrong. Maybe her father is Gabi Grassette. Gabriel would always replace another after another. Just like abandoning her because she meant nothing to him. Just like Adrien means nothing to him anymore when madness corrupted him.
    Somehow those two do have similarities when they are evil. Manipulation, lying, deceiving, false identity, mastery of deception, and they both hate Ladybug.
    And now she has the butterfly brooch. Just like Gabriel’s madness, her madness will a lot worse.
    But that’s my theory. Maybe they are relatives without noticing it, maybe they are not.
    Again, when Gabriel replaced Lila with Kagami for the alliance avatars, it was like a foreshadow of the time when Gabi abandoned her when she was a baby. Maybe he did recognize her or not to have her be a model with his son. Gabriel always thinks that teenagers are a bad influence to Adrien. But not Lila?

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      Lila propably have Mythomania also know as Pathological lying

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      Lila one time flirted with Adrien
      If she will be his step sister
      She Propably didn flirted with her step brother
      If she knew they (she and Adrien ) are related

    • @CK-solutions
      @CK-solutions Рік тому

      Interesting theory. I like reading how other people see this playing out. But I believe Gabriel is her great uncle. She is the future child of Felagami. Felix made no secret he hated Gabriel, and Lila has followed suit. If she is the child of Felagami, that makes her a full senti by human conception. That's if the theory Kagami is a senti, is true too?
      Bunnyx/Alix is her second cousin. Who is the future child of Adrien and Marinette. You know, her weapon is an umbrella, right? 😉

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      @@CK-solutions Alix is not from Future
      In the present she have father and brother
      So she is not Adrien and Marinette Child

  • @vanillaglazed
    @vanillaglazed Рік тому +34

    why is she tryna ruin marinettes life if in the past marinette was her babysitter???

    • @CK-solutions
      @CK-solutions Рік тому +3

      Because she's not future Manon. I think she's the future child of Felix and Kagami.

    • @vanillaglazed
      @vanillaglazed Рік тому +1

      i said if she was@@CK-solutions

    • @CK-solutions
      @CK-solutions Рік тому +1

      @@vanillaglazed 👍

    • @sheriasha18
      @sheriasha18 Рік тому +3

      What did marinette do to make her go nuts at some point of time in the future??

    • @spencerhollis3158
      @spencerhollis3158 8 місяців тому +3

      Maybe she's jealous of how close Adrian is with Marinette, I don't know, honestly I won't believe this theory until they give her a motive.

  • @alicjazurek5550
    @alicjazurek5550 Рік тому +5

    the tme she said she was a holder of the fox miraculus and the fact she had an identical copy of the object before a hero using it even appeared would also hint that shes from the future

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      Or Maybe she is older than she looks

    • @theredeagle3512
      @theredeagle3512 Рік тому

      I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere that Gabriel made jewelry inspired by the miraculous to look like the miraculous

  • @faithnorthrup8626
    @faithnorthrup8626 Рік тому +1

    That would be an awesome twist.

  • @saanyc3
    @saanyc3 Рік тому +1

    One thing’s for sure when season 6 comes out it’s gonna be explanations all over the place

  • @dianeadkins1281
    @dianeadkins1281 5 місяців тому +1

    If you paid attention all three women think they were reunited with their daughter, Lyla/Cerises is obviously using them for free room and board so she can do her wicked revenge, she obviously has a vendeda against certain people in Paris mainly the Dupan-Chang family and I think it has something to do with Sabine who changed her name from Shabine when she moved away from China to Paris and married Tom, I think Sabine is her biological mother who either gave her up for adoption or her father raised her, she is older than she is portraying herself to be, Tom and Sabine have been married 20 years revealed in Timebreaker, Marinette was 13 when the story began so Lyla/Cerise is probably at least 7 years older than Marinette, her first target to get revenge on Marinette was Adrien whom she knew Marinette liked a lot, then she works on Sabine trying to turn her against Marinette by making her think she doesn't love her enough to join her art classes and Sabine and Tom are falling for her manipulation by believing her lies that Marinette stole from her in the episode Ladybug and Chloe's lies that Marinette is stealing from everyone in episode Adoration. She has a vendeta against Marinette from day one of her appearance on the show. Well that's my theory from observation

  • @alexdevloo3459
    @alexdevloo3459 Рік тому +4

    I don't think she is Manon: she doesn't look like her, different skin colour, and has weirdly dispositioned teath

  • @knightzix_01
    @knightzix_01 Рік тому +1

    I honestly had no idea that little fella was time Tagger It too me till now to realise this

  • @SkylerMeyers
    @SkylerMeyers 2 місяці тому +2

    Time travel is dangerous bissness and I mean for the past or preasent

  • @douglasburck1611
    @douglasburck1611 Рік тому +10

    I still say Lila is Italy version of a cia or MI6 agent. This explains Lila's multiple parents and backstories!

    • @zerodiamond4206
      @zerodiamond4206 Рік тому +1

      A rouge agent maybe? That would definitely be interesting

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому +1

      Sleeping agent
      She could be also Older than she looks

    • @zerodiamond4206
      @zerodiamond4206 Рік тому

      @@polishalastor142 she could probably be 30, I know some young looking 30 yr olds IRL

    • @sheriasha18
      @sheriasha18 Рік тому +1

      ​@@zerodiamond4206I'm one of them

  • @milady775
    @milady775 Рік тому +1

    Everyone's been saying this and it makes sm sense

  • @ZoobaNOOB24
    @ZoobaNOOB24 7 місяців тому

    5:31 I think this scene is foreshadowing that Manon and Chris are pulling Bunnyx and as we know Bunnyx gives the power of time travel soo somehow older Manon came in present as Lila and also Chris was the villain called timetagger

  • @mpanamashile3901
    @mpanamashile3901 Рік тому +13

    I feel that Manon and Lila are kinda the same person. But l want to see what Manon will look like as a teen

    • @LaraWael-j2k
      @LaraWael-j2k Рік тому +5

      Same

    • @LaraWael-j2k
      @LaraWael-j2k Рік тому +4

      I think they might be related same eye color,hair color and skin color the only thing different is that lila always lies to get her way out of trouble but Manon isn't like that I don't really know maybe because Manon is still young. I hope they say it in season 6

    • @kpc9602
      @kpc9602 Рік тому +1

      Me too suddenly

    • @stefaniarusso
      @stefaniarusso Рік тому +1

      ​@@LaraWael-j2kyeah same here ❤

    • @TheresaHall-vl1bm
      @TheresaHall-vl1bm Рік тому

      ​@@SimonPostor me neither Considering they both have parents but Manon mom is not the best parent but does care and tries to teach her right and wrong. Lila parents don't seem to know anything about their daughter and even if she had more than one female parent it wouldn't be legal and wouldn't fit into the story Considering despite everything the law remains the same.

  • @thetoybox4333
    @thetoybox4333 Рік тому +8

    I hate this theory.
    Why can't Lila just be her own person.

    • @kpc9602
      @kpc9602 Рік тому +3

      Would/n’t that interfere with “time paradox”?

  • @Lucanvn29
    @Lucanvn29 Рік тому +11

    I kinda knew cause she and manon look to alike and she knew alot of stuff abt Marinette because of her babysitting!

    • @kpc9602
      @kpc9602 Рік тому +4

      It was hard to tell at first, but I’ll wait for season 6 whether to be proven wrong

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому +1

      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation

    • @Lucanvn29
      @Lucanvn29 Рік тому +1

      @@polishalastor142 so true

    • @Lucanvn29
      @Lucanvn29 Рік тому +1

      @@polishalastor142 but Michael Jackson tho.....

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому +1

      @@Lucanvn29 I know
      He Bleach his skin

  • @nhatthanh812
    @nhatthanh812 2 місяці тому +1

    But how can Lila and Manon be the same person in the timeline from season 1 to 5???

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Місяць тому

      Future
      Lila would be Manon from Future
      Older Manon

  • @brodypl5804
    @brodypl5804 Рік тому +2

    Wow the fandom really ran out of actually good theories huh

  • @TheNamesME
    @TheNamesME 11 місяців тому

    the show definitely placed emphasis on Lila being Chris's babysitter and the parallels between Manon controlling people as puppeteer and Lila's manipulation feel plausible, I think any holes in this theory can also be excused by the gap between seasons and the evidence is vague enough to still be a good plot twist so honestly i think this is correct. i'm not sure how much i like this theory but maybe it'll grow on me like the sentiAdrien theory did.

  • @Starryflame
    @Starryflame Рік тому +1

    "Brown eyes and brown hair"
    I thought Lila's eyes were green...

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      She wear contact lenses

    • @Starryflame
      @Starryflame Рік тому +1

      @@polishalastor142 She might be, but in that picture they showed, they're quite green XD
      Was it ever shown canonically she wears lenses?

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      @@Starryflame Yes
      And wig
      In season 5

  • @Marvel-Simp
    @Marvel-Simp Рік тому +2

    The fact that Chris who is the brother of a superhero(carapace) will be helping the future hawk moth (Lila/Chairsse)

  • @btsrosaline3559
    @btsrosaline3559 Рік тому +5

    Has anyone else thought that cerise might be the future holder of the butterfly miraculous she is the only friend of Marinette that has yet to get a miraculous so maybe after she defeats Lila Charisse will become the permanent holder

    • @deviousangel336
      @deviousangel336 Рік тому +2

      It's probably because Marinette isn't friends with Lila and doesn't trust her. Also, she did have the fix miraculous for a little bit I think

    • @kurakiee
      @kurakiee Рік тому +3

      Y’all..cerise IS lila

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      Lila will be Future Hawk moth

    • @raphaelultimo1425
      @raphaelultimo1425 Місяць тому

      This aged like fine wine. Indeed she is now the wielder of the butterfly miraculous.

  • @fizz3130
    @fizz3130 Рік тому +1

    stop i didnt even think about this!

  • @Sashimireactions
    @Sashimireactions Рік тому +1

    Tbh that would make sense. MANON HAS A FACE EXPRESSION THAT SHE HATES MARINETTE SOMEHOW 😂

  • @djellzagashi8736
    @djellzagashi8736 6 місяців тому

    you know what my theory is about lila. Well, at first she behaves like an angelic girl, but it turns out that she is a fox, because Lila has been a participant in every event, learning and learning. At first, when Lila takes the book from Adrian, she learns about superheroes, maybe she understands the language, but again I can get information. that are valid, then when the battle of the superheroes is weighed Lila is in the tower creating her illusion that at that moment she could have seen the bride and the black maqok from the future fighting with the monarch, which she did not understand that she was at fault, should not be done more powerful in the future, for this reason she becomes an ally with Gabriel Agresten. But once again the question arises as to how it is possible that she knew Gabriel's secret that he was at fault, let's not forget that when she took Adrian's book, after the akumatization to Gabriel in the collector, it is more than understandable that it was his book and for this reason Lila has realized that he may have been the culprit and her theory may have come true when she helped Gabriel to accustom other people!

  • @BratDee
    @BratDee 9 місяців тому

    I agree with this theory! I always had a feeling about Manon. I felt like she was more relevant than the show led on

  • @Print_H3llo_W0rld
    @Print_H3llo_W0rld 7 місяців тому +1

    This theory doesn't make sense, I believe that she's a sentimonster (yes, I know, sentimonster theories are getting old) created by a holder of the Fox miraculous, which is why she is great with deception. And more proof is Volpina, she has the same power of the Fox miraculous, meaning that getting Akumatized makes her deception more powerful. Edit: I forgot to add, Manon is a kid, so she wouldn't know better and she felt lonely, so that's why she akumatized herself. And with Hoaxer, since she's made with the power of deception, she could use that, but with social media. But Manon is just a kid and doesn't know a better way to get what she wants without being a villain. And adding onto the sentimonster theory, Lila would've been around 100 or so years old, which means that the Fox holder would've died by then, leaving her an orphan. And the order of the guardians fell, meaning she would have to flee elsewhere, eventually making her way to Paris, since the Fox holder wanted a daughter, she would've taught her what she knew about her powers, leaving her deceptive and able to trick or manipulate anyone.

  • @missims1003
    @missims1003 Рік тому +2

    If Marinette had gotten the butterfly miraculous back who would’ve she chose to bear it?

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому +1

      Teenage Manon
      Firstly Socqueline

    • @missims1003
      @missims1003 Рік тому +1

      @@polishalastor142 oh that actually makes sense you’re probably right .

  • @melissasawicki8989
    @melissasawicki8989 Рік тому +7

    Lila isn't Manon from the future that's not even possible because the time travel miraculous is in the hands of bunnix and bunnix won't even remain In the timeliness she's from due to her needing to keep the bunny miraculous safe come on its simple logic

    • @CK-solutions
      @CK-solutions Рік тому +1

      You're right, Lila isn't Manon from the future - but she is from the future. As her second cousin, Bunnyx, already knows. Because Lila is Felagami's child, and Alix is Adrienette's.

  • @GabeNwagbalaPlus
    @GabeNwagbalaPlus Рік тому +1

    Interesting Guys!

  • @-BerryYT-
    @-BerryYT- 3 місяці тому

    Everyday my childhood gets runed moreeee✨

  • @Fropeh
    @Fropeh Рік тому +2

    HOW DOES SHE KEEP CHANGING HER EYE COLORS LIKE EVERYTIME SHE BLINKS💀💀💀💀

  • @pweteriscool7803
    @pweteriscool7803 Рік тому +2

    How did that be physically possible since were Manon and Lila would be in the same time zone maybe it was just a coincidence and the Zag team did not even realize

  • @Nate_river_2
    @Nate_river_2 Рік тому +4

    3:05 😳😳damn it's kinda true

  • @ki8395
    @ki8395 Рік тому +1

    But why would she even want to time travel and ruin the timeline with marinette when they were younger?
    And one thing i noticed, Nadya has a similar appearance with Lila, the eyes, the eyebrows and even the nose and hair, they both shared similar appearance for sure

  • @IramShahid-nd2uo
    @IramShahid-nd2uo 25 днів тому +1

    I bleaf that lila is manon from the future

  • @h3rogaming47
    @h3rogaming47 Рік тому

    it couldn't work since Manon would need to manage to get the butterfly miraculous as a teenager, in the future as Manon, to get to the past and get the miraculous as Lila and then send the future Manon to the past to do the same thing, and all that without Bunnix stepping in and stopping her from doing it

  • @Nikkidorkdiaries
    @Nikkidorkdiaries 3 місяці тому

    THE THUMBNAIL IM DYING😭

  • @Adam10_9-idk
    @Adam10_9-idk 7 місяців тому +1

    Thats not true if that was true manon/lila would know marinette because manon knows marinette

  • @Noir_Edits2010
    @Noir_Edits2010 Рік тому +1

    After finding out Adrien is actually a sentimonster, l am having major trust issues with this show so l won't either reject or accept this theory

  • @CoCoLiciousart04
    @CoCoLiciousart04 Рік тому

    I mean Adrian being a sentimonster was silly and now look where we are, anything is on the table at this point lol.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 місяців тому

      Adrien
      Right
      Adrien senti monster theory became True, Canon

  • @MileyAshby
    @MileyAshby Рік тому +1

    First Marinette a friends believed her AND NOW HER MOM Unbelievable I don’t really need to be rude but I love miraculous I love your vids😭❤️

    • @MileyAshby
      @MileyAshby Рік тому +1

      I meant Marinette friends Believed her 🥲

  • @oladayooyenekan3937
    @oladayooyenekan3937 Рік тому +1

    I knew it same color of hair same eyes 🎉🎉🎉

  • @deannerodriguez2208
    @deannerodriguez2208 Рік тому +1

    Why would manon be angry with her babysitter and wanna be in a relationship with her babysitter's boyfriend? Plus manon don't have a grudge against Marinette and even likes the heroes shown in simpleman. Sorry but this theory is wierd...sure time travel but can we not have time travel eps anymore? How miraculous handle time traveling is making my brain hurt...
    Ex. The burrow is apparantly the only burrow in between all space and time, every bunny miraculous holder shares the same burrow so why don't we see more than 1 Bunnix or her other counterparts in there? As well in the timetagger ep, why is everyone who is sent back only affects paintings qnd statues? Yet their time itself isn't jumbled even though most of the victims are influential people who if sent back in time would've sent serious ripples in time other than just a mere painting or statue...
    Also Lila only is in the art class to get close to Mari's mother to ruin Mari's image like she did (I forgot which ep it is)

  • @SweetSentiLight101
    @SweetSentiLight101 Рік тому +3

    I knew it that they are the same person ❤😮WOO HOO 😅🎉🎉🎉🎉 I HATE THEM BOTH FAIR AND SQUARE 😮

  • @btsrosaline3559
    @btsrosaline3559 Рік тому +1

    I think manon maybe not be Lila Marinette did say she would find someone with a pure and kind heart to be the holder of the butterfly miraculous in the future. Who else out of the group, has yet to receive a miraculous, for Chloe be redeemed, and get the miraculous of the butterfly. Maybe but it is possible that Lila or someone else will receive the miraculous that’s in her class maybe a new student will move in 😊 but I definitely think she may be the holder in the future

  • @asifuddin4044
    @asifuddin4044 Рік тому

    Such an interruption through time has to be fixed so I doubt it .

  • @coolone-i6s
    @coolone-i6s 2 дні тому

    i have another point about the theory timetager is 10 years apart from the main timeline i checked it in fandom they say that adolt ladybug is 24 while marinet is 14 lila is around 15 while mannon is like 5 to 6 if time tagger halpd lila aka mannon is making some sense timeline wise

  • @Mari_frfr
    @Mari_frfr Рік тому +2

    YESSS FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE REALISED!!

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому +1

      Not possible
      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation

  • @SkylerMeyers
    @SkylerMeyers 2 місяці тому +1

    The only 2 people that can time travel is from the future is timetager and bunnix

  • @Gobble_wobble
    @Gobble_wobble Рік тому

    Lol the thumbnail 👁️👄👁️

  • @stashiapie6403
    @stashiapie6403 Рік тому +1

    You should do a theory on Lila Lila might have a condition where she could get more attention and if she does have a condition then she might have a condition where she's having trouble gaining attention

  • @mee-sm1bs
    @mee-sm1bs Рік тому

    7:36 anyone pls tell me which episode is this

  • @polishalastor142
    @polishalastor142 Рік тому

    What if Lila is from another dimention , Parallel Universe,a Shadybug & Claw Noir one 🤔

  • @gwenmloveskpopandmore
    @gwenmloveskpopandmore Рік тому +1

    Manon has darker skin so there’s no way

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      Right
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation
      In most cases

  • @M00n_Ch1ld_Stud10s
    @M00n_Ch1ld_Stud10s 3 місяці тому +2

    I feel like Lila cant be manon because in the episode were Chris and manon are fighting over the rabbit kwami and since its a kwami I feel like Lila would notice Marinette is the guardian/ladybug because nooroo is her kwami

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Місяць тому

      After season 5 final Lila Has Buttefly Miraculous

  • @cococardenas3071
    @cococardenas3071 Рік тому +2

    Lila and Mono both can manipulate people easily

    • @CK-solutions
      @CK-solutions Рік тому

      Yes, but Lila has the expert level of her father, Felix. Making her mother, Kagami.

  • @huntersmith4429
    @huntersmith4429 10 місяців тому

    THAT'S A ONE I PICK THE VIDEO IS GOOD VIDEO IN SEASON 6. SHE WILL FIND A WAY FROM THE FUTURE OR PAST WHERE WE WE'RE ON WILL IN THE SHE WILL IN THE TIME TRAVLLING. I LIKE IT

  • @polishalastor142
    @polishalastor142 Рік тому +1

    Its not possible
    Manon skin is darker
    Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation
    In most cases

  • @tengiaan4251
    @tengiaan4251 Рік тому

    i think lila will use her butterfly abilities like a copy of heroes abilities. like Volpina or Timebreaker

  • @khadraabeeb5007
    @khadraabeeb5007 6 місяців тому

    Omg how can this be possible

  • @hans-ulrichschulz9814
    @hans-ulrichschulz9814 Рік тому +1

    What is Emelie's biggest secret? What are the similarities between Marinett and Gabrielle Agreste? What does Marintett have in common with the Asian woman in Sole Crusher?

    • @kpc9602
      @kpc9602 Рік тому +2

      Who’s the Asian woman?

    • @brodypl5804
      @brodypl5804 Рік тому +1

      Bro what Asian woman in sole crusher? Why is this comment section on something so strong it gives them halucinations? 💀

  • @TwiKou89
    @TwiKou89 11 місяців тому

    Lila pulling a Chibiusa

  • @thatsnotokay
    @thatsnotokay Рік тому +1

    Why is this popular...

  • @Heartgaming-f6h
    @Heartgaming-f6h Рік тому

    Wow I did not know any of this

  • @BaloraSilviana_PrincessRuby
    @BaloraSilviana_PrincessRuby Рік тому +1

    We Know It She Is From The Future
    She Is Powerful And Evi'l'' Too

  • @polishalastor142
    @polishalastor142 Рік тому

    Lila Being Teenage Manon
    That's will be crazy
    Both are different
    Manon is French 🇫🇷
    Lila is Italian 🇮🇹
    Manon skin tone is Darker
    Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation

  • @SibesoKufanga
    @SibesoKufanga Рік тому +2

    I'm so confused. But it kinda makes sense 😕🤔

    • @kpc9602
      @kpc9602 Рік тому

      I’m with you I’m on that

    • @TheRealRainbowLab
      @TheRealRainbowLab Рік тому

      "but it also makes sense" eye color.

    • @brodypl5804
      @brodypl5804 Рік тому

      I am shocked that some actually think this makes sense 💀 like damn

  • @Wolfie37283
    @Wolfie37283 Рік тому

    I remember someone reviewing this theory and just making fun of it for how dumb it is XD

  • @Roblox_Lillyana
    @Roblox_Lillyana Рік тому +1

    Why did Lila have to become evil

  • @tiavaughan8066
    @tiavaughan8066 Рік тому +4

    manon is nothing like lila she is not evil

  • @maryamsalah8709
    @maryamsalah8709 Рік тому +1

    What if Manon and Lila were sisters and not the same person

  • @electrobob992
    @electrobob992 Рік тому

    I'd be fine with this being the truth, either that or reveal she is actually Marinette and Adrien's future kid, who is trying to ruin her mother's life.
    Like she was neglected due to how much time she was away *With work*, then was given a chance to go back in time to be a pain.

    • @CK-solutions
      @CK-solutions Рік тому

      Lila is Kagami and Felix's future kid. Her cousin is Bunnyx - via Adrien and Marinette. Lila is trying to shape the past, and Bunnyx is trying to preserve it.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 Рік тому

      ​​​@@CK-solutionshello
      In present time Alix have brother and Father
      Wrong

  • @Kingsley-r1i
    @Kingsley-r1i Рік тому

    I don't believe Lila is manon but what if she from the future everything that happened is said to be luck but what if she knew how everything is going to turn out