"Hot for Teacher" Drum Solo - Who Plays it the Best?
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0:00 - Intro
0:58 - Solo Breakdown
4:28 - Reactions/Critique
12:54 - My Cover
Do you guys want to see more drumset videos?
Yes
YES
Bleed
Why not?
Bleed
"BUT being 6 does NOT get him out of being critiqued!"😂😂
It doesn’t but Avery is still a great drummer so he should get his credit
solid....
Adum would approve
Trust me, he knows that.
Best part of this 😆
I vote for myself! 😂
An honor to be included, thanks!
I liked yours the best. (13 yr old version). 🥁
Man has 400k
Ayee I watch youre videos all the time just wanna say you really inspired me, im 16 now and have been watching for years. Got a drumset a year ago and just learned Symphony of Destruction.
6 year old becomes 13 comes in and reacts to himself getting reacted beautiful
This is so awesome! But, the question is ... are you subscribed to EMC Productions???? I hope so! (Not like Davie504!)
Guy #1 got it done! On the album, Alex starts the Hurtas on a low Simmons tom sound and brings in the shuffle with the acoustic double bass.
it was a simmons bass drum. all of the kit except for the snare and cymbals were simmons pads
alex used rototoms for the recording of 1984. eddie misremembered when interviewed and said it was all simmons, but that was 5150 not 1984
Bleed by meshuggah "the other herta song"
HERTAS OF FIRE SWEEP THROUGH MY HEAD
THRUST OF PAIN INCREASINGLY ENGAGED
SENSORY RECEPTORS SUCCUMB
I'M NO ONE NOW, ONLY LEG CRAMPS
I never thought anyone would mention that song on this channel
IVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOREVER
another man of culture
Herta herta hertaherta hertas
Guy #4 is Glen Sobel, the Drummer for Alice Cooper. He’s a killer drummer.
Awe for real. Was he the original, or only drummer theyve ever had? I never was that much of an anc's fan but had friends that were and the drummer always stood out to me. Him , the drummer for Primus, and the drummer from Pearl Jam (Dave Abruzezze or something close to) all goof 90s drummers.
Hey when i had left my first comment i had just kind of skimmed the Glen Sobel comment. So-Alice Cooper. And obviously not the original.
@@jacobwalker4163 ...No he's not the original drummer from the 70's...he would be in his 70's..
Glenn has been with him for a while though..
WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!!
Ok it is, that’s who I thought it was haha
I don't care how old or young you are anyone who can play that should get respect.That beat is insane.
The rest of Hot For Teacher is just having dank swung bass drum chops.
Live guy did it best... why? Everyone else had a million chances to record theirs, he's on stage doing it with one chance.
He's Glen Sobel. He's one of the best drummers in the world.
welll he dosen't play it best just plays it 1 time?
1:12 Van Shuggah - Bleed For Teacher
Wow super cool that i was even included in this! My Hot for Teacher cover seems like ages ago! I was 14 when I did that. I think I might need to revisit it and redo it now that I have mics and I'd like to think I've improved in the last year and a half. 😀 I noticed you recommended having age in the title, would love to know how people feel about this? Anyway super cool video and thank you so much for including me and for the kind words! ✌💜🥁
Please do redo this song
I love your channel and covers and it would be really cool to see you do another 1 year (maybe more) later cover like you did with Metallicas one
It WAS ages ago! Wow. Has it really been 37 years??
Simone......you did incredible when your first video was posted playing Hot for teacher was posted and seeing others post comments, and seeing this post, look up Phil Collins biographies about when he was told he was an average drummer, let alone a musician...listen to others opinions about your talent you have and maybe give you their opinions what you should do.....but also know some of our greatest musicians from our past created music ignoring others opinions and now others follow their talent......Simone...your an incredible talent, follow your heart, who knows....in the future it will be.....a gal Simone Lockhart, created a drum talent that will be hard to follow! Follow your dreams and help others follow yours!
It's OK to put your age in the title, if you are under 18 or over 60. Buddy Rich started adding his age to titles again after 1988!
we’re you female drummer 2? if so that was the hottest thing ever
Some years ago, I saw a Van Halen tribute band called "Eruption", and their drummer was Scott Travis. You know, the guy from Racer X and Judas Priest? He killed that intro!
Eric: “I did a little bit of editing
The editing: AKSBCOWBSLCNS
what? help.
normal people when they hear "Hot for Teacher": "Man that's a crazy drum intro"
Car guys: "Damn Alex got a FAT cam in those drums"
Alex Van Halen needs to be dyno'd, see how many horses he's pushin
@@johnnybravo1041 lol
Homie’s prolly running a 90 degree LSA 😫
Playing bleed while first going through the chart was the greatest piece of humor i believe I've ever seen lol
It’s all Al on drums, I saw him do it live in front of my eyes (before you were born) on the 84 tour. He starts playing hertas on a Simmons pad, followed by the bass drums coming in underneath with a fast shuffle rhythm. Which is reminiscent of an idling motorcycle. Al then plays some tom accents over the top to make things more interesting. When he breaks into the groove, he plays an inverted swing rhythm on the ride bell. Modern drummer even released a book all about Alex and confirmed this.
I believe when Van Halen played on that tour Alex had 4 kicks and had a couple multi connected beaters. 2 sets with a couple linkages going out to the outer kicks.
I was about to say that's how I think he did it. It's about the only way.
The outer kicks had no pedals or beaters. They were connected with large conduits in an attempt to magnify the amount of bass coming off the kick drums. Like passive radiators in a speaker enclosure. Also 'cuz it looked outrageous.
Alex never played the intro solo live the way it sounded on the album.
I remember reading a magazine article on that back in the 80’s. And remember reading how they offset the cams to do the part.
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What about using a two dualist pedals?
You ever just hear a motorcycle starting up and mistake it for someone blasting Hot for Teacher?... I have
i say u should buy a "shovel", but get one with rubber motor mounts and u will be good all day long. stop those big vibes wrecking yor hands.
Lots of times. Air guitar for no fuckin reason at all.
Never.
The beginning of the song was a recording of a Lamborghini engine (it belonged to one of the Van Halens but I don’t remember which one) then the drums fade in after about 5 seconds, according to Ted Templeman.
@@mrufino1 That's Panama, not Hot for Teacher. It was Ed's Lambo heard revving.
One of the best videos I have seen breaking down this drum line. Well done!!
MAD PROPS TO ALL THESE PLAYERS! Anyone who has the chops to lay this down on video is a monster player. Peace!
My favorite UA-camr covering my favorite song by my favorite drummer by my favorite band. This is truly a good morning.
Thank you for the transcription. I know that's a lot of work!
I vote for 6 year old and when he grew up to 13, go Avery!!
guy number 4 he had great time and did the herta's in the beginning with the kick drum. Congratulations to all the drummers for getting out there and doing it.
Guy #2 has been one of my favorite UA-cam drummers for quite some time. Him and his brother(?) are quite possibly the closest thing to a VH revival you can get. His appreciation for Alex Van Halen runs incredibly deep- the main reason for him using triggered pads for his rendition of the solo is because AVH used electronic pads for his kick on 1984 (as well as the following tour) and then right across the board switched to electronic drum pads for toms on the 5150 record (and following tour afterwords).
From the triggered pads right down to the bronze paiste cymbals, his dedication to replicating the famous Van Halen drum sound is a valiant effort in of itself. I choose him overall despite the “jazz metal” ride section and the high pitched kick sample. Killer drummer, as well as his brother being a killer guitarist!
I’m not even a drummer or close to being one, and I love this guy.
Your commentary was epic....I had a ton of fun watching this! Thanks!
Owen Davey is the best at Hot For Teacher. Not only does he totally nail the drum intro, he also does Eddie's guitar flawlessly and the bass guitar as well. Dude is a machine.
Your content always interests me. Thanks for your hard work! 😄
Mia, not just for this part but because she writes her own material and can play every instrument in the band, and mixes and edits her own material, all while being in full-time education. Amazing and very creative young lady, and highly in demand for guest appearances, session work all around Nashville, and you gotta be pretty damned good to get noticed in that neck of the woods.
@@grizzleebair Which one? There have been a steady stream of them.
Great video. I had heard in 1984 they mic'd up Alex's super-car rather than a Harley. It's hard to say as the band just lets rumors soar to legendary status with little explanation (brown M & Ms for instance). Four kicks for show. There were additional kicks on the front of the batter kicks with flexible tubes that could be stretched to adjust the fundamental kick tone to the arenas. Grateful to see 1984 and 5150 tours at the Cow Palace.
According to Ted Templemen's new autobiography. The first several seconds of the Hot For Teacher drum intro were recorded from the "loping" exhaust notes of EVH's V12 Lamborghini.
This has been my favorite video of yours since I started watching. I love the breakdown of drum parts from famous music, especially when it's complex or has a 'gotcha' section like this one with 4 kick drums. I'd love to see more videos like this.
Mia ROCKs the licks ❤️
Great video, and that intro sure has been a mystery, too! I had heard/read that the Hertas were actually played on a *roto* tom, however I reckon it sounds more like a Simmons drum, as do the bass drums. And so Guy #2 actually wasn't that far off by using e-drums, too :-)
Love this drum solo part, liked the 7 year old at 13 as the deeper base sound reminds me of the original . The recording first reminded me of a super dragster race car at idle . Great video.
So, there I was, minding my own Bee's Wax ( Shout-out to Steven Sassafras VI), walking around Fort Washington, when I checked my email.... Oh no! 39 minutes late! Back in the early '70's, while at Plattsburgh AFB, Bill's Boom Operator had a Harley! Such a sweet sound! Thanks for explaining the Shovelhead sound... Never realized it until you mentioned it in this video. Now, I will always hear it! 😉🥁🤭😁
I lost count fo how many days that it’s been since he’s posted an Carmen heights Drum and bugle corps video
EMC AND Van Halen? This really is... (puts on sunglasses) a good morning.
He's REALLY good, this is just one example. AVH is finally in the Drummers Hall of Fame. YES
That was so entertaining. Thank you for putting this together!
Alex van halen used Simmons electronic drums to achieve this. The kick and toms are basically just pitched up/down versions of each other which is why it sounds like "four bass drums" were being used. The "four bass drums" actually refers to his live setup, which was mostly for looks. The hertas are played using his hands on a "floor tom" of sorts electronic drum pad, though they stop when he starts playing the wooden tom. I suggest you find the original drum track, with the drums isolated to kick, snare, cymbals, and toms. You can solo the toms and remove the shuffle beat bass drums and find that this is entirely possible to do. "Guy #2" and/or Josh Gallagher pretty much plays it spot on, along with actually using electronic drums.
As soon as Bleed started playing I died😂
Bro the literal second he played bleed i laughed so hard. Love u emc
As a metal head in drumline, you including meshuggah at 1:13 truly made my day.
Same
When he started playing bleed over it I got really excited cause I really want to hear him play it
You're over-complicating the breakdown. It's much simpler than people think. You have to basically incorporate the dotted eighth ride ostinato that he plays once he goes to the bell... but on the floor tom as the kicks are shuffling and the left hand moves to the 10" tom. Alex and Ed were the sons of jazz musician so they naturally incorporated the swing into their music but in a modern rock style.
The dude at the 12:30ish mark is playing it how I'm trying to describe. I've been playing the song for 30 years off and on in various bands and have played and lead sang it the past 15 or so.
Thanks for taking the time to put this cool video together and keeping the rock alive! 🥁🎶🤟🍻
This always perplexed me when I was trying to follow the studio track! So glad I wasn't crazy after all.
everyone did an awesome job,loved it.....rock on
You should do one of these videos about Tom Sawyer by Rush, the drum solo in the middle gets butchered quite a bit sometimes
After I see a Tom Sawyer drum cover that sucks I NEED to hear Neil play it live to fix the damage done.
@@Blaze_Drumz go watch mine please let me know if I butchered it
saralyn chernishuk it’s really decent actually, good job
1:12 THAT WAS UNEXPECTED XD I CAN"T STOP LAUGHING
As a subscriber and a huge metalhead, I'm very proud that you referred to Bleed as "the other herta song"
The guy right before you nailed it the best. Not just technique, but it was smooth.
"Guy #4" is Glen Sobel. He's currently the drummer for Alice Cooper! (Among others)
the Duallist brand makes a single pedal with an extra beater so you could possibly rerecord it in one sitting
I watched on little drumming video on Facebook and now I see them all the time. I sing and play guitar, why do I keep watching these? Oh wait, it’s all this god dammed talent! Nice work.
Guy #2 plays it exactly like the record (ride bell aside). Alex played the hertas on a simmons pad to his right triggering a low kick drum sound. Then his double pedals trigger a different simmons kick sound for the shuffle. Right at the start you can faintly hear his sticks click on the edge of the simmons pad or something. No overdubbing, all live performed. Thats why the herta kick drum starts dropping hits once the toms come in. He DID use the simmons pad to play the intro on the original 1984 tour, theres a very crunchy video of it on youtube, but now he just skips the intro entirely.
Do more songs where u review covers. It would be cool to see the Tom Sawyer drum solo
All sounded great, and Mia sounded most like recording I think
Best I've seen so far was at a Mike Mangini clinic back in '98. There's one on UA-cam from a show he did at Berklee college of Music.
I enjoyed each one's performance for different reasons, but based on delivering a performance with complete accuracy as written, I agree with you.
People say this is impossible to play live with one drummer, Neal Peart would have said hold my beer!
GOT THAT RIGHT 😎👍👌👊☝️👏
Fuckin legend
lmao ...yeah right ..elec drums are for losers
@@1newman2 Blasphemy!! Neal is the drum God
@@roadglider00 whatever , electro puss drummer lmao would not make my top 50 drummers all time
I'm not going to take sides on which version of the into to "Hot For Teacher" was best. Each drummer was delightful and thrilling.
this was very interesting!! loved the video. thanks for sharing
I always thought that the WHOLE BAND were playing drums for that intro!
I thought all the drummers were fantastic, but I do talk to Mia Morris occasionally and I have to support, so I'm going with her cover as being the best.
I find it amazing I can still enjoy music without understand any of the technical theory behind a drum sound. Sort of like enjoying the site of a beautiful woman without understanding the role played by various genes that gave her the outstanding looks.
Goddam, for the past 40 years I never knew that drum intro was to mimic a motorcycle.
Just wanna point out that I watched every second of every ad for this video
I would be interested to see how Sina stacks up in this comparison (Sina-Drums)
The first girl Mia Morrison or as I call her Miss M and M, but my hat is off to all of them they did a great job.
Had no idea, thanks for sharing!
YES! You should buy the Harley...and dammit...now I want one because I love Hertas!!!
Do you want to know the real secret to the Alex Van Halen “ four bass drums “ ? It is a second beater on each pedal with a very loose cam and drive that lags behind the primary beater . Or so my drummer told me
Very true. A lot of people think there were no beaters those other bass drums. Not true. It was all in the way he linked them up.
So a double kick
Anyone ever tell you that you sound like Jerry Seinfeld when you speak?
Not sure if he did Hot For Teacher, but another good kid drummer on UA-cam is Alex Shumaker.
And if you're into death metal (which I am not, but I worked with this guy when he was 19), check out Darren Cesca.
@EMCproductions Great video, it's great seeing some different drumming content :D I would love to see a video comparing Drum corp style to the Scottish style of drumming. I see a lot of young folks commenting on world class pipe drummers saying that anyone in DCI could do better. Could we dive into the differences and complexities of Scottish pipe drumming?!
You da best ✌️
Here's an example :)
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Excellent attempts by all your tone was best....I also liked the simple kit and good camera angles that you used... bravo 31yo guy
Shovelhead is just the name of the engine, its named after the rocker heads which look like coal mining shovels
I believe Alex Van Halen”s Kit from 1984 has special double double bass pedals with 4 bass drums.
Great! What about doing the same thing with Stargazer intro?
I´ve never seen that, even with Cozzy Powell alive.
You CAN play 4 kick drums! You use a binary pedal, meaning that when you step it kicks, when you retreat it kicks. In essence, it kicks twice when you step and release. Both feet, 2 kick drums a foot, a binary pedal with a hit for each kick drum. I've seen it done.
Always wondered how Alex played that part. I thought he was using specialized kick pedals, two bass drum pedals and each pedal has two beaters so each kick gives like a flam effect. You can probably tell I'm not a drummer, but that's how I had it in my imagination at least
#1 definitely Mia Morris. The best HFT cover on the whole Internet.
6:09 It sounds like a mixture of both. You can tell that it's the same cymbal being hit when she does the crash accents, but you can also hear the original track underneath her playing.
I was a tiny bit interested and saw this is normally about drumline-style drums. Then there was Van Halen. Then there was Meshuggah. Now I'm subscribed.
Guy N°4 is Glen Sobel, he's not a "guy". he's a professional drummer
hernan frega i was looking for this comment, thank god at least one person knows who he is
Well he is a Professional Drummer guy
Yep Glen is awesome. Touring with Alice Cooper and Alice just has pros.
i guess being a professional drummer makes him not a guy? xD
So he's a girl?
Dumbass.
2:25 690% Drum skills, 420% Editing skills
Davie504: 10 x Wise choice
As an owner of a shovelhead I would say don’t get one unless you enjoy being stuck on the side of the road almost as much of the time that you ride. But it does turn heads when it runs
Well, I gotta say you earned last place for recording it in 4 parts but I enjoyed it. Nice work
Just read the Ted Templeman book. The beginning of Hot for Teacher was a Lamborghini exhaust (also used in Panama). Donn Landee worked his magic and blended AVH's double kicks in at beginning.
this is correct
Guy #1 is Aaron Edgar... cool channel
Makes you appreciate the art of drum mic'ing!
Just that intro bro..............it’s amazing
I feel Like Thomas Lang could do the four kick drum thing somehow confidently
XD
The first 6 seconds of the song are in fact the 1984 album
engineer Don Landry’s recording the tail pipe of Eddie Van Halen’s Lamborghini Diablo idling in his garage ... it is not drums. THEN Don programmed the Simmons kick drum to replicate the sound the best he could. This is why the intro is not actually in perfect time.
Wrong. The lambo was put in the bridge of panama. Lambos also don’t sound like that.
@@jonhopkins9380 correct! Dude must have never heard a Lamborghini lol!
Diablo wasn't produced until 1990...
Awesome video - I just subscribed and thank you for making your transcription available. I believe Alex assigned the same kick drum sound to his electronic tom pad that he was using for his double electronic kick drums on this song. Alex did have to do overdubs on the 1984 album, but not because of the complexity of the parts. Ed's recently built 5150 studio didn't have space of Alex's cymbals, so he had to overdub the cymbals. Listen to the first roto-tom fill on "I'll Wait" and you'll hear where he missed the cymbal crash. In hindsight it makes the song sound unique, but this was an accident.
I think the only reason Alex doesn't play the first few seconds of HFT live is because he no longer uses electronic kicks, and the part doesn't sound right unless the same sound is used for the kicks and tom.
Interestingly, in Ted Templeman: A Platinum Producer's Life in Music" (2020 Greg Renoff), Ted claims that the first few seconds of HFT isn't Alex at all- it's Ed's lambo exhaust. Ted goes into detail about how much time he and Donn Landee spent editing the exhaust to make it sound like drums. This doesn't make any sense at all (to me), and I would love to question Ted and Donn Landee (or Alex!) to get the facts straight.
1:18 i have fallen in love with this solo
Maybe you could cover people playing the under pressure solo?
Question, I could have sworn there was a “double pedal” for 4 bass hits. Aka the quad pedal. If I remember it’s all just on one bass (from the video I watched) but couldn’t you hypothetically rig it on 2 bass drums and play the herta part in one foot, and the other part in the other foot? It would be hecka difficult but, I mean, if you train and practice enough you couuuuuld do it.
Edit: yeah just rewatched a video and found out it is 2 pedals on each bass drum, meaning you could totally do it, did I hear a worlds hardest drum solo 2020 video? 👀👀👀
You could in theory rig two kick drums and a pair of double-kick pedals (each pedal having 2 kickers instead of having it formatted as one kick drum with twin kick pedals.) Again, it is possible if you can play fast footwork and can djent like Amon Amarth's drummer.
Awesome video, my kids watch that “6 year old who is now 13” kid. I think he did the best job tbh.
Side note: it’s wild how many (non-drumming) Van Halen fans have no clue the song was meant to sound like a shovelhead. I nerd out when ever it gets mentioned, this video was dope,, thank you!
I like the way you are polite criticizing people, if someone was about to criticize me i wish it was you xD