I agree, those brief pauses that allow them to get out of the flee mode and back coiled makes a big difference...very well done ...most people just dont have the patience to get the job done properly.
Great video. Negative comments below obviously have never raised a clutch. im on my 5th now. Currently have 33 neos to start. I'm dreading it. Arus are a nightmare to get started. Lots of patience required. Appreciate all the tips.
You are an absolute life saver, I've worked with alot of reptiles, but I recently recieved my first Green tree python baby. Touching it on its outside coils and a bop on its nose was all it took. Very unusual creatures 🤣🤣
to anyone reading this, if you are tong feeding, esp with frozen thawed, let it warm up near your snake so they start smelling it early. and when your snake gets ready to strike, HOLD STILL just stop moving it for a second so it can focus and hit a good strike, even if they miss the first, just hold and let them take another
dub loe good comments. However this video is about enticing baby green tree pythons to strike. At this age they do not recognize mammalian prey as food. Holding food in front of baby chondros will not make them take the food, the video is about the technique of tease feeding. Thanks for watching!
Your lucky not to lose the poor thing to stress! Idea is well known with lots of snake species but slow it down a little, don't go at it 100mph. The blowing should be strong but not a big gust lol Has to be temptation not threat. Else feeding could be a long term/life long problem. GTP's are easy to stress. Your psychology of the opening & closing is more fitting for a dog. I'm sorry I don't mean to offend in any way! I love your GTP's and know your only doing your best.
Spacey Chapman thanks for your comments, interesting ideas. I disagree, the opening and closing suits this species and the technique of tease feeding perfectly. It minimises the amount of time and physical contact with the animal, actually reducing the chance of injury and stress whilst at the same time making strikes more predictable. You will likely never tempt a baby gtp to eat a pinky mouse simply because it is not a natural prey item to them, and recognising it as such occurs only once they have eaten it a number of times. And to do that, we have to bridge the gap between defensive bites, and wrapping that pinky in coils and swallowing it. I find that blowing in the face helps with focusing strikes once the pinky is presented to it. I always watch for signs of stress and end sessions before that occurs. I haven't lost a single baby that I have produced, and have started 100% of them successfully using this technique and variations of it. Many babies are lost without accepting a single meal because the breeder fails to get them started. And contrary to having feeding issues and problems for life, my animals feed like MONSTERS. No offence taken, and I appreciate your input and concerns. Aru are notoriously difficult to start because of their docile nature and unwillingness to bite.
Gary Elliott Hi. I wasn't concerned at all. You are doing a good job with your babies. I have experience with assist & tease feeding,just thought you could slow it down a little as no natural prey would act like that. It worked so I'll shut up. Your GTP's are beautiful. Did you find them all homes? All mine of various species are rescued. Nice to see someone in UK doing this sort of thing ☺️
Spacey Chapman thanks mate, I work solely with green tree pythons these days. The clutch the animal in the video came from are all long since moved out, save for the two I kept back for myself for future projects. I have a small clutch now which is almost ready but they were all spoken for before they even hatched 😊
Gary Elliott well the demand speaks for your care & breeding ethics. Yes I watch your videos often and can see why your babies sell well. I've never actually seen or heard of a GTP needing rescuing in this country. Got to be a good thing! Thank you for taking the time out to reply to me, appreciated. I think with snakes we are always learning. Cheers ☺️
Spacey Chapman Thank you very much, I appreciate that. I have to say, I've never even heard of a gtp in need of rescue/rehoming. I agree, we are constantly learning, and questioning our practices and those of our peers is a valuable learning tool. Find me on Facebook if you want to see more of what I do. Cheers buddy
This video should be removed just ridiculous if he’s hungry he will smell the mouse as you have to warm the mouse for a response i have 7 green tree pythons never have had a problem. You slapping your lips is also distracting and annoying.
Robert Olenick thank you for your thoughtful response. Allow me to address the points you raise. This video is a demonstration of how to start baby gtps from scratch, not how to feed already established babies, which can be fed how you described. This technique is very short term and used to get the animals over the initial hurdle of feeding trials. 7 green tree pythons is a relatively small collection and unless you bred those 7 and raised them from the egg it lends no comparable information to this video. Baby green tree pythons do not naturally predate on baby mice and hence do not recognise them as food, hungry or not. Many neonate gtps are lost before their first meal because the breeder lacks the experience to get them started. The window between hatching and dying of malnutrition is actually quite small. No amount of warming the prey or presenting it in novel ways can will the rewiring of the animals brain and olfactory system to accept pinky mice as food. Almost every gtp in captivity (except older wild caught animals) will have been started in this or very similar ways, including the 7 you own. A hungry baby can literally sit on the perch and starve to death before learning to eat pinky mice on its own. I'm guessing that as an intelligent person that you purchased your animals already established and not before they had started feeding. As for the lip slapping, I can only apologise. I had a dry mouth and excessive swallowing reflex. Swallowing with a dry mouth is difficult which caused the slapping. I find it annoying myself but felt it irrelevant in the context of an educational video. Out of over 1300 views you are the only person to mention it. Either it didn't bother anybody else or they weren't impolite enough to mention it.
What an absolute fool you are! The internet is full of idiots like you! Correct me if I’m wrong Gary but youve now established 2 clutches using this technique and haven’t lost any babies? I’ll take that over some idiot telling me to ‘warm a mouse for a response’. I have green trees and emeralds and all feed fantastically without a problem but starting neos is a different kettle of fish! If you could do us a little video to show us how you get the babies you’ve bred started that’d be great, although judging by your misplaced, ignorant response, those babies don’t exist! The internet’s fantastic but it has its down sides! Fools like you being the main one! Back into your box now!
I agree, those brief pauses that allow them to get out of the flee mode and back coiled makes a big difference...very well done ...most people just dont have the patience to get the job done properly.
Wow. Now I know why a gtp is so expensive. The work you guys do to get them ready for the next guy is crazy. Thanks for sharing.
Great video. Negative comments below obviously have never raised a clutch. im on my 5th now. Currently have 33 neos to start. I'm dreading it. Arus are a nightmare to get started. Lots of patience required. Appreciate all the tips.
great strategy of reinforcing biting/striking behavior instead of running behavior...brilliant teaching video.
You are an absolute life saver, I've worked with alot of reptiles, but I recently recieved my first Green tree python baby. Touching it on its outside coils and a bop on its nose was all it took. Very unusual creatures 🤣🤣
to anyone reading this, if you are tong feeding, esp with frozen thawed, let it warm up near your snake so they start smelling it early. and when your snake gets ready to strike, HOLD STILL just stop moving it for a second so it can focus and hit a good strike, even if they miss the first, just hold and let them take another
dub loe good comments. However this video is about enticing baby green tree pythons to strike. At this age they do not recognize mammalian prey as food. Holding food in front of baby chondros will not make them take the food, the video is about the technique of tease feeding. Thanks for watching!
Hi Gary, another nice movie mate, what water do you use for misting and drinking for your GTP's...
Thanks Tony :) I use filtered tap water using a brita.
What app or software do you use to keep track of feeding with the bar codes?
I have the same question. This would make life so much simpler!
Thank you
assist feed also helps alot
Your lucky not to lose the poor thing to stress! Idea is well known with lots of snake species but slow it down a little, don't go at it 100mph. The blowing should be strong but not a big gust lol
Has to be temptation not threat. Else feeding could be a long term/life long problem.
GTP's are easy to stress.
Your psychology of the opening & closing is more fitting for a dog. I'm sorry I don't mean to offend in any way! I love your GTP's and know your only doing your best.
Spacey Chapman thanks for your comments, interesting ideas. I disagree, the opening and closing suits this species and the technique of tease feeding perfectly. It minimises the amount of time and physical contact with the animal, actually reducing the chance of injury and stress whilst at the same time making strikes more predictable. You will likely never tempt a baby gtp to eat a pinky mouse simply because it is not a natural prey item to them, and recognising it as such occurs only once they have eaten it a number of times. And to do that, we have to bridge the gap between defensive bites, and wrapping that pinky in coils and swallowing it. I find that blowing in the face helps with focusing strikes once the pinky is presented to it. I always watch for signs of stress and end sessions before that occurs. I haven't lost a single baby that I have produced, and have started 100% of them successfully using this technique and variations of it. Many babies are lost without accepting a single meal because the breeder fails to get them started. And contrary to having feeding issues and problems for life, my animals feed like MONSTERS. No offence taken, and I appreciate your input and concerns. Aru are notoriously difficult to start because of their docile nature and unwillingness to bite.
Gary Elliott Hi. I wasn't concerned at all. You are doing a good job with your babies. I have experience with assist & tease feeding,just thought you could slow it down a little as no natural prey would act like that. It worked so I'll shut up. Your GTP's are beautiful. Did you find them all homes? All mine of various species are rescued. Nice to see someone in UK doing this sort of thing ☺️
Spacey Chapman thanks mate, I work solely with green tree pythons these days. The clutch the animal in the video came from are all long since moved out, save for the two I kept back for myself for future projects. I have a small clutch now which is almost ready but they were all spoken for before they even hatched 😊
Gary Elliott well the demand speaks for your care & breeding ethics. Yes I watch your videos often and can see why your babies sell well. I've never actually seen or heard of a GTP needing rescuing in this country. Got to be a good thing!
Thank you for taking the time out to reply to me, appreciated. I think with snakes we are always learning. Cheers ☺️
Spacey Chapman Thank you very much, I appreciate that. I have to say, I've never even heard of a gtp in need of rescue/rehoming. I agree, we are constantly learning, and questioning our practices and those of our peers is a valuable learning tool. Find me on Facebook if you want to see more of what I do. Cheers buddy
This video should be removed just ridiculous if he’s hungry he will smell the mouse as you have to warm the mouse for a response i have 7 green tree pythons never have had a problem. You slapping your lips is also distracting and annoying.
Robert Olenick thank you for your thoughtful response. Allow me to address the points you raise. This video is a demonstration of how to start baby gtps from scratch, not how to feed already established babies, which can be fed how you described. This technique is very short term and used to get the animals over the initial hurdle of feeding trials. 7 green tree pythons is a relatively small collection and unless you bred those 7 and raised them from the egg it lends no comparable information to this video. Baby green tree pythons do not naturally predate on baby mice and hence do not recognise them as food, hungry or not. Many neonate gtps are lost before their first meal because the breeder lacks the experience to get them started. The window between hatching and dying of malnutrition is actually quite small. No amount of warming the prey or presenting it in novel ways can will the rewiring of the animals brain and olfactory system to accept pinky mice as food. Almost every gtp in captivity (except older wild caught animals) will have been started in this or very similar ways, including the 7 you own. A hungry baby can literally sit on the perch and starve to death before learning to eat pinky mice on its own. I'm guessing that as an intelligent person that you purchased your animals already established and not before they had started feeding. As for the lip slapping, I can only apologise. I had a dry mouth and excessive swallowing reflex. Swallowing with a dry mouth is difficult which caused the slapping. I find it annoying myself but felt it irrelevant in the context of an educational video. Out of over 1300 views you are the only person to mention it. Either it didn't bother anybody else or they weren't impolite enough to mention it.
What an absolute fool you are! The internet is full of idiots like you! Correct me if I’m wrong Gary but youve now established 2 clutches using this technique and haven’t lost any babies? I’ll take that over some idiot telling me to ‘warm a mouse for a response’. I have green trees and emeralds and all feed fantastically without a problem but starting neos is a different kettle of fish! If you could do us a little video to show us how you get the babies you’ve bred started that’d be great, although judging by your misplaced, ignorant response, those babies don’t exist! The internet’s fantastic but it has its down sides! Fools like you being the main one! Back into your box now!
Lol dude you have no idea what you are talking about
Such a ridiculous and wrong way to feed
Robert Olenick based on your vast experience starting baby green tree pythons feeding?