I think you and Randy need to go into a “Deep Dive” on Jon Cox and what makes him successful as an angler since he is leading AOY for BASS fishing on instinct. No transducers or forward facing sonar. He is very intriguing for non pros who can’t afford all the technology that everyone seems to think you must have to be successful. His resume is pretty outstanding. Be a good topic for your FTM Live Stream.
I've got a couple spots that I'm going to try this for sure! I am just returning to bass fishing from about a four decade layoff. The game has changed significantly! Spinnerbaits and Texas rigged worms were "the state of the art" when I was chasing bass hard in the early '80s. I am watching a lot of Fish The Moment in order to try and shorten the learning curve for some of the current techniques and technology. The current goal is to be locally competitive from the kayak in the summer of my 60th year.
Good choice as usual Johnny. I don't fish off shore much at all, but I've been slow rolling a big swimjig for last few years when conditions call for it. You'll unlock a whole new deal to these deep fish. Never could understand why more people don't utilize this. Thanks for all the work you put into your videos young man
Jonny if you feel the fall rate is too great on your heavy swim jig, you can do this one trick. Increase the bend of the willow slightly as it will increase the drag and lift. I learned it trout fishing with small roster tails. They didn't want to spin right. I found it useful on spinner baits also.
Great video! I modified a do-it mold to make my own underspins in 1/2, 3/8 and 1/4 with a weedguard. Have not thrown them much yet. Hoping to do the same techniques you discussed
I don't have electronics nor a boat so I don't fish specifically for suspended bass but- I love the Ouze swimmer. I fish from a kayak and I landed my current pb on the 3/16ths Ouze season before last- a 6.8 pound spotted bass. So, this year I grabbed a 1/4-ounce model in the Gripan color- it has been killing it so far. That and the popper have landed every bass I've caught this year so far- I think maybe one or two on a ned rig actually but- the majority have been on the Ouze. It just works.
Welcome to the wonderful world of swim jigs! This has been my #1 goto bait for the last year and there is always a bluegill, shad and a golden shiner swimbait rod on my deck every month of the year. If I’m not throwing a big swimbait I’m likely throwing a swim jig. Add in a stick bait, speed worm and top water and you’re set for pretty much anything down her3 in Florida …
Really appreciate your analysis and how you plan to rig the presentations. I will pre rig some jig heads and see what happens. Thank you for your commitment to your followers.
I do believe your thoughts have a great deal of merit. I am recovering from ankle replacement surgery and have 2 to 3 months of rehab before I can get back out on the water to try myself. Please keep us up to date with your findings.
Primarily a muskie guy ... who makes his own baits and your bass 'ideas' are inline to a new bait I am working on for the larger predators... great video! I especially like the bait/catch data... analysis...
It’s a bummer that I’m a Technical slug. Would love to work with/for the best UA-cam channel out there! Your video quality is so excellent, it must take the majority of your time. So glad you’re doing well enough to hire it out………. as long as you keep the great quality. 😁👍🏼
Good topic. I like my swim jigs but I fish them more like a swim bait instead of a spinner bait. I throw small swim baits on a ball head and an underspin all the time. When I come to a laydown or feel them hitting submerged brush out comes the swim jig or scrounger. I have some trouble keeping them down to 20/25 ft. which is where "offshore": starts around here. I be interested in what you come up with. Great work, thanks for the videos.
Walleye fishermen often catch bass. The hair jig holds "air bubbles" and keeps it somewhat suspended. Hair itself...deer, elk, caribou is hollow and will keep the jig lofted. Fly fisherman need to know those nuances for tying flies. I like the way you think about analyzing the material. In the ol' days.. you would buy or get a syringe to pump a little air into the plastic.. love to see you do a few different materials now that you have the "live" and how the different materials with the same casts, react.
The wirr holding the bait falls out after 3 fish, used a dozen of them and it always falls out and then it's just a sim jig. Love the bait still just wish they'd secure it better.
Always awesome to hear your thought process that goes into your next plan of action on the water. I would love to see some on the water videos of you fishing this setup---even if the fish catches are fewer and farther between as you dial in the technique...I have got some similar type heads coming in that I found on instagram from a maker out in California...I am interested to see how this technique will play along with your livescope style fishing that you enjoy. Is there a world where you feel like this could be fished even a bit vertically right over livescoped bass? - Thank you for all the great videos! - Tres
Within the first few minutes I couldn’t help but think, “UhOh! Do I see a FTM Jonny Schultz Hair Jig with lite weed guard in our future?!” 😂. Great content as always Jonny. Looking fwd to seeing how it works for you.
I was going through some of your older videos and came across this one. Thank you for trying them out. Can you let me know how it went and where can I find the follow up video of this experiment if there is one?
I haven’t made a follow-up video but this is a good reminder to make one. I found a few unique ways to fish this bait throughout the year and had one big bag in August on Table Rock Lake with 5 bass for over 20lbs fishing over standing timber.
Jon Cox is a great fisherman. But he is leading AOY because the Elites have been fishing places that have had lots of shallow fish. I like what Johnny is doing with the app and wouldn't skew his models based on ONLY the time of year.
I've had a lot of success with this bait fishing bullrushes and other types of shallow cover... the problem with it is the under spin has a tendency to fall off. Don't think you'll have that problem fishing offshore.
Great info. Changing things up is crucial to staying ahead of the game. Sometimes doing something different, will make for an epic session on the water.
Good Morning, I saw a comment a few months ago that you made on someone else’s channel. Someone asked if there was going to be a video on the Perspective view use. Your comment was, “I’m on it”. I really enjoy your videos and have been watching for this video. Have you abandoned the idea, or can we still anticipate it? Thanks again for all your hard work and good luck finding help with editing.
Still working on it. I like to spend a lot of time with a new feature/tool before making a video about it. This lets me share the pros and cons in different situations and conditions.
Hi I’m a commercial fisherman Im looking for the best fish finder out there .do they have any fish finder where you can see shrimp on a fish finder .if so which one and what’s that fish finder that you was showing in your video thanks
I’ve been using swim jigs in 10-30ft for many years now. Seems guys are figuring it out. It’s bar-none the best thing I’ve ever thrown for deep fish in cover, especially weeds. Stick with a heavy hook and a very heavy rod. When they bite at the end of a 120’ cast you can’t have too much power!
I think the offshore game is not as effective as it used to be, because of all the mapping and electronics. It seems new techniques will be needed, offshore, to trigger educated bass. Shore anglers will benefit from the offshore push.
It's something that anglers had figured out on large salmon rivers in the British Isles and Europe. Going back quite a long time. We categorize it underneath 'fly fishing' nowadays. The point is though. That lines were more primitive. Rods and reels were more simple. A lot of fishing rods in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries here. Were basically the equivalent now. Of something like a large flipping stick. And lines that were available. Were the equivalent of something like a heavy braid. The hooks were large, heavy gauge. And the casting was less like what we now call traditional fly fishing casting. It was more like pitching and flipping. Getting the fly with substantial weight on it. To suspend somewhere in the water depth, and have enough action. That the fish would find it and be interested.
I would have a look at Mikeal Frodin's 1991 edition 'Classic Salmon Flies'. To see what I mean by that. It contains all of the old Irish, Scottish, Welsh and English patterns. From way back then. The only flies that are similar to that nowadays to those are modern day hair jig lures (in the modern day fly fishing we've abandoned anything that is like the classic salmon fly in favor of small treble hook equipped lures). That 'cast' better on long casts through the atmosphere. We don't fish in fly fishing any longer. Using those short pitches and flips from a boat. As they did back in the old days (they would simply un-wind a long rope and a boat would position itself somewhere in the middle of a large river channel). Where the angler would fish from using the rod. It was long before trolling motors and 'spot lock', or power poles. Because we don't fish like they used to for salmon. Way back in earlier centuries. Rather we cast perpendicular across the river channel now and drift the flies. Using water current pressure on the belly of modern fishing lines. To accelerate the flies through the water at fantastic speed (nowadays, speed becomes a trigger). Our flies are designed to be sleek and stream-lined. To accomplish stability at speed. We don't need. The heavy hook. Of the classic salmon flies any longer.
The point is that. Modern anglers in bass boats. Are fishing much more like we did in Europe. Centuries ago. Except that when we got modern technologies. Sophisticated lines, rods and reels. We realized that we could abandon the idea of the boat (and there were also sorts of stone made bridges or jetties the anglers would build out into the river too). To enable the fly fishing anglers to fish. While standing on those piers or jetty structures. We could go along on foot. And use the modern tackle that enables us to 'cast' longer and better. To substitute for the need. To have a boat or a fishing platform. To pitch and flip the fly lure from. What it means. Is that you don't need as much boat equipment and labour resources. To organize all of that. In modern fly fishing. We just have these skills and techniques now. Which enable us to cover water efficiently and from greater distances. Using smaller, more lightweight flies instead.
When I look at the modern angler in north America. With the boat platform to fish and cast from. The advantages of locating fish. Using modern electronics. And this new capability. That people talk about. Fishing for fish in different and new parts of the vertical water column. As opposed to fishing on the bottom. Or on the top water areas. Fishing in that large zone in the middle. That previously may have gone un-explored. Compared to the other zones. I'm reminded the more and more I look at that. At the flies that were made by the eighteenth and nineteenth century 'hat makers' in Ireland and places (the Atlantic salmon generally ran those rivers then in early springtime). Which was a colder part of the year. Even in western Europe, where one has the 'gulf stream' effect on climate. That washes across these western European environments. The water was still cold. And the idea was to create something. That swam above the heads of the Atlantic salmon in rivers. That were hugging closer to the bottom of the river beds. Instead of the top. They needed a bait that would achieve depth fast and hover there. And that is where we find these larger hooks coming from. Which no one here uses any longer.
I think you and Randy need to go into a “Deep Dive” on Jon Cox and what makes him successful as an angler since he is leading AOY for BASS fishing on instinct. No transducers or forward facing sonar. He is very intriguing for non pros who can’t afford all the technology that everyone seems to think you must have to be successful. His resume is pretty outstanding. Be a good topic for your FTM Live Stream.
And a fellow Crestliner aluminum guy to boot!
That's cool I'll have to look him up.
I've got a couple spots that I'm going to try this for sure! I am just returning to bass fishing from about a four decade layoff. The game has changed significantly! Spinnerbaits and Texas rigged worms were "the state of the art" when I was chasing bass hard in the early '80s. I am watching a lot of Fish The Moment in order to try and shorten the learning curve for some of the current techniques and technology. The current goal is to be locally competitive from the kayak in the summer of my 60th year.
“I hope this is interesting to Y’all”………Everything you put out is interesting Jonny! Best channel out there!
Good choice as usual Johnny. I don't fish off shore much at all, but I've been slow rolling a big swimjig for last few years when conditions call for it. You'll unlock a whole new deal to these deep fish. Never could understand why more people don't utilize this. Thanks for all the work you put into your videos young man
Jonny if you feel the fall rate is too great on your heavy swim jig, you can do this one trick. Increase the bend of the willow slightly as it will increase the drag and lift. I learned it trout fishing with small roster tails. They didn't want to spin right. I found it useful on spinner baits also.
Appreciate the thought process type of video. Not that other content isn't great, but this type of content fills the gap well.
Great video! I modified a do-it mold to make my own underspins in 1/2, 3/8 and 1/4 with a weedguard. Have not thrown them much yet. Hoping to do the same techniques you discussed
Good to hear you trying different ways to fish. I think in your hands it will be a success.
I don't have electronics nor a boat so I don't fish specifically for suspended bass but- I love the Ouze swimmer. I fish from a kayak and I landed my current pb on the 3/16ths Ouze season before last- a 6.8 pound spotted bass. So, this year I grabbed a 1/4-ounce model in the Gripan color- it has been killing it so far. That and the popper have landed every bass I've caught this year so far- I think maybe one or two on a ned rig actually but- the majority have been on the Ouze. It just works.
Welcome to the wonderful world of swim jigs! This has been my #1 goto bait for the last year and there is always a bluegill, shad and a golden shiner swimbait rod on my deck every month of the year. If I’m not throwing a big swimbait I’m likely throwing a swim jig. Add in a stick bait, speed worm and top water and you’re set for pretty much anything down her3 in Florida …
Really appreciate your analysis and how you plan to rig the presentations.
I will pre rig some jig heads and see what happens.
Thank you for your commitment to your followers.
I have hammered 2lb plus crappie on this swimjig since I got livescope. 3/8 ounce and 1/4 ounce are phenomenal.
It sounds like you have a solid concept. I will be looking forward to your follow-up videos. Thank you
Can't wait to see the "on the water" action, Johnny!
Great idea, looking forward to seeing you put it into action.
I do believe your thoughts have a great deal of merit. I am recovering from ankle replacement surgery and have 2 to 3 months of rehab before I can get back out on the water to try myself. Please keep us up to date with your findings.
Thanks for thoughts I will be trying this
Fish the moment is a Great teacher
appreciate your dedication
Looks awesome' I will defiantly have to give it a try!!!!
Love this type of content
Very interesting thought process. Will be interesting to see how it works out.
Primarily a muskie guy ... who makes his own baits and your bass 'ideas' are inline to a new bait I am working on for the larger predators... great video! I especially like the bait/catch data... analysis...
This is something I was also going to try because I want to improve my underspin understanding not a strong point in my arsenal and others slay on it
Very great video john.
I hope you have great success with this approach on a swim jig, with the live scope I believe it can be, but without it I will be harder!
It’s a bummer that I’m a Technical slug. Would love to work with/for the best UA-cam channel out there! Your video quality is so excellent, it must take the majority of your time. So glad you’re doing well enough to hire it out………. as long as you keep the great quality. 😁👍🏼
Thanks for another great video
Recently started using the uoze. Quality bait.
Good topic. I like my swim jigs but I fish them more like a swim bait instead of a spinner bait. I throw small swim baits on a ball head and an underspin all the time. When I come to a laydown or feel them hitting submerged brush out comes the swim jig or scrounger. I have some trouble keeping them down to 20/25 ft. which is where "offshore": starts around here. I be interested in what you come up with. Great work, thanks for the videos.
Cant wait to see how this works out for ya
Good stuff Johnny I love your videos....Randy has you in the top 5......I can say it's more like top 2.
Walleye fishermen often catch bass. The hair jig holds "air bubbles" and keeps it somewhat suspended. Hair itself...deer, elk, caribou is hollow and will keep the jig lofted. Fly fisherman need to know those nuances for tying flies. I like the way you think about analyzing the material. In the ol' days.. you would buy or get a syringe to pump a little air into the plastic.. love to see you do a few different materials now that you have the "live" and how the different materials with the same casts, react.
I think it's an awesome idea I'm sure it will work I'm always looking for new ideas
The wirr holding the bait falls out after 3 fish, used a dozen of them and it always falls out and then it's just a sim jig. Love the bait still just wish they'd secure it better.
Just sent my buddy who does video editing your info he has done a bunch of shoots for Miami charters and worked on a few movie productions.
Always awesome to hear your thought process that goes into your next plan of action on the water. I would love to see some on the water videos of you fishing this setup---even if the fish catches are fewer and farther between as you dial in the technique...I have got some similar type heads coming in that I found on instagram from a maker out in California...I am interested to see how this technique will play along with your livescope style fishing that you enjoy. Is there a world where you feel like this could be fished even a bit vertically right over livescoped bass? - Thank you for all the great videos! - Tres
Love the video
Within the first few minutes I couldn’t help but think, “UhOh! Do I see a FTM Jonny Schultz Hair Jig with lite weed guard in our future?!” 😂. Great content as always Jonny. Looking fwd to seeing how it works for you.
I was going through some of your older videos and came across this one.
Thank you for trying them out.
Can you let me know how it went and where can I find the follow up video of this experiment if there is one?
I haven’t made a follow-up video but this is a good reminder to make one. I found a few unique ways to fish this bait throughout the year and had one big bag in August on Table Rock Lake with 5 bass for over 20lbs fishing over standing timber.
Jon Cox is a great fisherman. But he is leading AOY because the Elites have been fishing places that have had lots of shallow fish. I like what Johnny is doing with the app and wouldn't skew his models based on ONLY the time of year.
What are your basic soft plastic colors that you use for swimbaits and other soft plastics? There are so many colors out there lol
i have a couple of these tied on i didnt think about fishing it deeper .
I think it's a great technique
Hey Johnny, do you know when smallmouth will be added to the Deep Dive app?
I've had a lot of success with this bait fishing bullrushes and other types of shallow cover... the problem with it is the under spin has a tendency to fall off. Don't think you'll have that problem fishing offshore.
What trailer and size are you using with the bluegill pattern?
Great info. Changing things up is crucial to staying ahead of the game. Sometimes doing something different, will make for an epic session on the water.
Good Morning, I saw a comment a few months ago that you made on someone else’s channel. Someone asked if there was going to be a video on the Perspective view use. Your comment was, “I’m on it”. I really enjoy your videos and have been watching for this video. Have you abandoned the idea, or can we still anticipate it? Thanks again for all your hard work and good luck finding help with editing.
Still working on it. I like to spend a lot of time with a new feature/tool before making a video about it. This lets me share the pros and cons in different situations and conditions.
Hi I’m a commercial fisherman Im looking for the best fish finder out there .do they have any fish finder where you can see shrimp on a fish finder .if so which one and what’s that fish finder that you was showing in your video thanks
Why is a deep diving crank bait not a preferred bait for suspended bass
What brand is the hat you are wearing and where can I get it?
Didnt get a lot of bites but got the right ones
First was the spinnerbait then if turned finesse swim jig then back to a spinnerbait I meant underspin. Idk anymore
I wonder why I haven’t seem a weedless hair jig?
I’ve been using swim jigs in 10-30ft for many years now. Seems guys are figuring it out. It’s bar-none the best thing I’ve ever thrown for deep fish in cover, especially weeds. Stick with a heavy hook and a very heavy rod. When they bite at the end of a 120’ cast you can’t have too much power!
I think the offshore game is not as effective as it used to be, because of all the mapping and electronics. It seems new techniques will be needed, offshore, to trigger educated bass. Shore anglers will benefit from the offshore push.
NOTHING beats a Castiac Jerky J
Won 3 tournament with this jig!! 🤫🤫
This latest chart on fishing. Demonstrates a thing. That I think has been around in freshwater fishing. For a very long time.
It's something that anglers had figured out on large salmon rivers in the British Isles and Europe. Going back quite a long time. We categorize it underneath 'fly fishing' nowadays. The point is though. That lines were more primitive. Rods and reels were more simple. A lot of fishing rods in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries here. Were basically the equivalent now. Of something like a large flipping stick. And lines that were available. Were the equivalent of something like a heavy braid. The hooks were large, heavy gauge. And the casting was less like what we now call traditional fly fishing casting. It was more like pitching and flipping. Getting the fly with substantial weight on it. To suspend somewhere in the water depth, and have enough action. That the fish would find it and be interested.
I would have a look at Mikeal Frodin's 1991 edition 'Classic Salmon Flies'. To see what I mean by that. It contains all of the old Irish, Scottish, Welsh and English patterns. From way back then. The only flies that are similar to that nowadays to those are modern day hair jig lures (in the modern day fly fishing we've abandoned anything that is like the classic salmon fly in favor of small treble hook equipped lures). That 'cast' better on long casts through the atmosphere. We don't fish in fly fishing any longer. Using those short pitches and flips from a boat. As they did back in the old days (they would simply un-wind a long rope and a boat would position itself somewhere in the middle of a large river channel). Where the angler would fish from using the rod. It was long before trolling motors and 'spot lock', or power poles. Because we don't fish like they used to for salmon. Way back in earlier centuries. Rather we cast perpendicular across the river channel now and drift the flies. Using water current pressure on the belly of modern fishing lines. To accelerate the flies through the water at fantastic speed (nowadays, speed becomes a trigger). Our flies are designed to be sleek and stream-lined. To accomplish stability at speed. We don't need. The heavy hook. Of the classic salmon flies any longer.
The point is that. Modern anglers in bass boats. Are fishing much more like we did in Europe. Centuries ago. Except that when we got modern technologies. Sophisticated lines, rods and reels. We realized that we could abandon the idea of the boat (and there were also sorts of stone made bridges or jetties the anglers would build out into the river too). To enable the fly fishing anglers to fish. While standing on those piers or jetty structures. We could go along on foot. And use the modern tackle that enables us to 'cast' longer and better. To substitute for the need. To have a boat or a fishing platform. To pitch and flip the fly lure from. What it means. Is that you don't need as much boat equipment and labour resources. To organize all of that. In modern fly fishing. We just have these skills and techniques now. Which enable us to cover water efficiently and from greater distances. Using smaller, more lightweight flies instead.
When I look at the modern angler in north America. With the boat platform to fish and cast from. The advantages of locating fish. Using modern electronics. And this new capability. That people talk about. Fishing for fish in different and new parts of the vertical water column. As opposed to fishing on the bottom. Or on the top water areas. Fishing in that large zone in the middle. That previously may have gone un-explored. Compared to the other zones. I'm reminded the more and more I look at that. At the flies that were made by the eighteenth and nineteenth century 'hat makers' in Ireland and places (the Atlantic salmon generally ran those rivers then in early springtime). Which was a colder part of the year. Even in western Europe, where one has the 'gulf stream' effect on climate. That washes across these western European environments. The water was still cold. And the idea was to create something. That swam above the heads of the Atlantic salmon in rivers. That were hugging closer to the bottom of the river beds. Instead of the top. They needed a bait that would achieve depth fast and hover there. And that is where we find these larger hooks coming from. Which no one here uses any longer.
You like having your gain jacked up that high?