120 Year Old Rare Nernst Lamps
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2021
- 120 Year Old Rare Nernst Lamps
These operate in air and do not require a vacuum and gas.
The one was tested at 130v DC 300mA Rated 500mA Output was like 25 -35w incandescent. - Наука та технологія
finally! a proper demonstration... I've seen people blast zirconium oxide rods with a blowtorch to show the basic principals but this is 100% a first seeing an actual nernst lamp in aciton!
Indeed. I am aware of only one other video from the Edison Tech Center from several years ago. You can make your own with a ceramic potato peeler.
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An interesting curiosity of these lamps: they were commonly used in subway stations apparently, and being still in the age of gas light, if a heater coil on one failed for some reason, it could still conveniently be "lit" by leaving the protective glass globe off and heating the glower with a match (or a kerosene wick flame) on a pole just as a gas lamp would have been lit.
@@Muonium1 True. Rick also showed a rather worn out example of one but sadly no running examples like Photon showed. probably in-part because original working examples are exceedingly rare.
@@Muonium1 this is very interesting . tnx man for this :)
That was incredible, I had never heard of a Nernst lamps, it was a privilege to be able to see one and especially for you to get the lamp running, "blew my mind" keep up the great work Andy! Love your videos, and we will NEVER get bored with your videos!
and I'm sure :
this is the first and the last time that i can see this lamp turn on !
This guy coming back to UA-cam was one of the best things to happen this year.
True this
Agreed!
Proof that good things can come in 2021!
I totally agree 👍👍👍👍
Just discovered him myself and I’m hooked!
Old Photon: I POPPED IT
New Photon: I didn't pop it. Here's how it works.
A parallel galaxy, living in are we..
An improvement over that one time he deliberately melted down a beautiful old antique circuit breaker just for shits and giggles. Blowing up modern garbage is one thing, but destroying a surviving example of industrial history...
@@TankCrusher210 what video is that
@@yodab.at1746 I do believe you're correct.
Photon has matured._
Remember the golden era of UA-cam? Before everything was monetized amd had production budgets, and it was just people doing cool stuff, making videos of it, then sharing it for fun?
This brings back those feels. I could watch this kind of content for days man. Thank you for the awesome video, hope to see more!!
- Come on, it's just yet another weird shape carbon filament lamp...
... takes the glass bulb out ...
- Wait... WHAT?!
... entire video ...
- Amaaaaazing!
I like how the Wikipedia article for this type of lamp was edited to include this video in its external links section like 6 minutes after this video was posted.
I noticed that too lmao read the wiki article to see what this bulb was and there it was on the bottom lol
Ahhh... the circle of life!
Leaked to wiki
I missed that, when I used it to find out more about the bulb.
Ironically, the part that looks most like a modern lightbulb doesn’t produce any light whatsoever.
What is the function of the ballast, could you please explain
@@ubaidu11ah just a current limiter
You know what? That component was missing only ONE ingredient to make it glow just like a modern incandescent light bulb: Gas. If you fill gas into that resistor enclosure in order to prevent the filament from quickly burning out, and then apply about 100 to 200v at 1A, you would probably get that two row long of filament in series lit up with a brightness comparable to an incandescent light bulb. Had those scientists accidentally stumbled across this, the Nernst lightbulb probably would have never existed, instead, they would have simply launched the incandescent light bulb as their invention right off the bat.
@@yafilmDOTcom There is a gas in there, it's hydrogen.
Lol
120 Years old LED lamp,Amazing
It's stuff like this that makes the wait for Photon's return worth while.
At least as good as a pop. I say it's a bit better even
I think that’s the first genuine “I’ll open it up carefully”
Came here to say exactly this. Talk about "never before seen on the internet", right?!
I was expecting a hammer bash.
No one would smash an almost £1m relic that literally is the only working one
@@dragonfireproductions790 1m?? o.O
@@dragonfireproductions790 no way can it be
worth that much, is it really?
Today I learned about the existence of Nernst Lamps, what was in them, how they worked and saw one in operation.
IT HAS BEEN A GOOD DAY!!!!
Absolutely smashing old chap! Excellent show!
“Nobody’s ever been brave or stupid enough to power one up… let’s do it”. That’s what I love about this channel. Fascinating lamp, have never seen one.
But can we pop it?
He said no one has ever made a video of one of these...so I'd venture to say no one on her had seen one before photonicinduction!
@@Asheface11 lol
@@42pyroboy Please don't
@@illuminate4622 8===D
"I know not everyone thinks these things are wonderful...."
Screw those people. This is cool stuff...
It's a revival of historical relics. Maybe not landmarks, but in science and technology.
It's like nixie tubes. The space age future of yesteryear.
100% agreed!
Absolutely!
SURE !
On the contrary! It's pretty damn hot;)
Very nice. Any idea what voltage was being dropped by the ballast?
I'm picturing you holding one while making a soyface.
Ohh man big clive in ze’ haus
Time for your kink palculator Clive :-)
@@ghlscitel6714 You forgot to multiply the alpha by the cold resistance, if I'm not mistaken the warm resistance should be 16 * (1 + delta_t * alpha), 50 - 80 ohms for 600 - 900 k absolute, or 14 - 24 V drop at 300 mA.
Let's be honest here Clive and ask the real questions, can he distill it? :P
You know a channel is good when a channel you watch comments on another channel you watch
I originally joined for the "til it pops" series, but I've grown since then and the science and history behind this technology is amazing.
"this is very rare"
Proceeds to show us he has three
when Photonicinduction is careful with electronics, you certainly know it's something special!
And it's still a privilege to see an operational one on UA-cam
Imagine using your mercury arc rectifier to convert AC to DC for the Lamp only to realise that your rectifier is brighter than your lamp 😜. Anyways great video as always.
🤣
Would not happen..
I have never been so happy to have a channel back.
Agree 100%. This was one channel along with some select few other "dead" channels that I kept with the bell turned on hoping it would come back.
Me too, it was well worth the wait!!!
Cheers!
Bollocks bollocks bollocks and more bloody bollocks... He's gone again :(
we're not getting bored...
Never even heard about Nernst lamps, let alone see one.
Me either. lol
I believe I have seen one. It was in my engineering teachers cupboard of stuff. He had all sorts of things in there. Halide lamps. Mercury rectifiers. Big old contactors.
It was the purest sample we have seen yet.
We will never ask to stop making videos. New ones are even better than before
That is probably one of the most interesting lamps I have ever seen. The fact that it still functions more than a century after its construction is incredible!
I have NEVER seen such a lamp before, or had even heard of them until today.
I'd read about them quite a few times in ads and books from the early 1900s but I'd never seen one actually working or even a photo of one!
I've also read about them. The illustration showed a lamp with glass cover and another identical one without. And one of the images was upside down.
Photonicinduction
is like a wizard, but he is no necromancer, he is an electromancer.
I think he is like the english Rayden
electricity is space magic!
technomancer
He’s a magician with electric. An electrician.
Thank you Photonicinduction! All my life, and that's a lot of years, I've wanted to see a Nernst lamp working and now you've done it for me. A great description of how it works too. I've read somewhere that if the heater failed, one could "light" the glower with a match, not that you'll be doing that of course! - Peter
Thank you for the kind words, you are all very welcome. Kind regards Andy.
Very interesting to see a historic Nernst lamp in operation. I'd like to point out though, that for a certain, specifical application there are still Nernst lamps being made! They're used as broadband infrared light sources in absorbtion spectrometers and hence are still manufactured for those.
PLEASE SAY MORE!!! Brand or manufacturer name desired!
It appears that they became obsolete even in this niche role being replaced with silicon carbide globars.
@@garbleduser Optronics Laboratories offers them as replacement part for their spectrometers. Part number is OL 740-20IR-RP
@@hexarith Would be nice to do a homemade IR spectrometer, complete with Nernst lamp and self pressed potassium bromide sample pellets
You're like that cool uncle that lets you play with flammable spray and a lighter
...........hey, i've never once let my niece or nephew play with flamable spray
.......my sister was AT LEAST 3 before i handed her a butane torch
@@frogz Lmaooo that cracked me up
Most of the time for better or worse it’s the best way to learn
My son tried to make a campfire in the garage when he was three, after lighting about 20 stick matches and getting burned several times he finally got a small pile of wood light and we caught hit before it got out of control, boys will be boys even at three!
my mom busted me trying to make a campfire in the carpeted stairway, I was maybe 2 or 3 lol
From a previous UA-cam career of abuse and popping of electrical stuff, to showing something so rare with the true reverence and respect it deserves. This is a new side of the PhotonicInduction channel I love. Well done mate - more like this please! (and more wanton pointless destruction for the sake of it too!!)
Ya before i think he was grieving a couple losses and drinking quite a bit. So destroying things was outlet. But now he seems sober and very happy with his new wife and her cooking. Now his approach seems more to teach and share things and there is level of respect to it. I'm sure he's still same person and we'll see more things pop but i agree it's a very different side of him, not just in content but in how he carries himself. I like both quite a bit!! I'm glad he is happy and doing well
It would be also nice to have such historical videos mirrored to proper storage like archive org, for UA-cam only cares about money and will compress it into a blocky mushy mess next time they see a spike of some other "fart inside a microwave" challenge incoming, no doubts taken
For me, it's Bonkers Conkers.
Up next rare lamp takes on my big fuse 😅
Pure magic : A long forgotten time trapped inside the makings of a glass light bulb . thank you so much
I worry about what would happen to all of his beautiful rare things if something were to happen to this national treasure of a guy....The care and appreciation (and knowledge) is second to none. I'm just a guy in Kansas..
IT'S NOT A LAMP...ITS A PIECE OF ART
What is a Nernst?
Why not both?
IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!
@@garrysekelli6776 Walter Nernst, a physicochemist in Göttingen around the 1900s.
@@ghlscitel6714 dude psychochemistry is my favorite subject.
Somewhere I imagine there are Nernst Lamp enthusiasts just freaking right out.
@@marcse7en "Nernst Nerds". They're right up there with Dietz nuts.
That warm, cozy glow is a thing of beauty!
Perhaps the neatest lighting technology no one knew about since fluorescent lamps.
I'm loving the "new" Photonicinduction. I'd love to see more of what appears to be a very extensive collection of electrical gadgets. Really great to get an understanding of the technology from the past.
It’s sure impressive to see the glower intact after so many years. Never thought I would get to see one operate in its original form.
Yttria stabilized zirconia is common still, I have used it as a high temperature oxygen membrane for an oxygen sensor.
I suspect with a little fiddling you could replace the glower or build your own bulb.
I actually have everything I would need to build one of those bulbs in the lab at the moment, I would just need to know the ideal oxide coating for the heater.
@@Ammoniummetavanadate My work processes YSZ all day long. I'd have never imagined it was electrically conductive.
I'm not bored at all, I'm fascinated with vintage stuff like that!
I love how these lamps glow...and glow...and glow...then suddenly *Flash* into life!
Dramatic, and even satisfying old toy!
Old Walter Nernst was a busy guy. I never knew he had invented a lamp. I teach the Nernst equation every year in physiology courses.
same. When you learn there's a lamp with the same name as an equation 😁
Also discovered the Nernst effect which is a weird sort of Hall effect / Seebeck effect hybrid thing
There is also the Nernst Cell which forms the basis of the Narrowband Lambda 02 sensor as used in just about every Petrol engine car these days to control emissions.
I let out an involuntary "Oh, wow!" when the glower took off the first time. Thank you for showing us and documenting these rare and interesting pieces of technology. The world is richer for it.
Can't believe you still have my picture on your wall from years ago. That's awesome! Cool video, thanks for documenting a piece of history.
Oh wow. I love all your videos, and they're typically outrageous, but this one is really special. I love your fascination and respect for such an unusual lamp, and I am so thankful for your restoration and demonstration of it! I watched this entire video without skipping a second of it, and enjoyed every moment of it. Thank you so much for doing this! I would love to see more electronics history videos from you!
An interesting curiosity of these bulbs: they were commonly used in subway stations apparently, and being still in the age of gas light, if a heater coil on one failed for some reason, it could still conveniently be "lit" by heating the glower with a match (or a kerosene wick flame) on a pole just as a gas lamp would have been lit.
Speaking of oddball lamps, I must dig out the Pointolite bulb I have somewhere
CANT WAIT!!!
Please do, I've seen the write-up on your site, it'd be cool to see it operating!
Hmmm me too! Remembering I have a Mazda/GE 5KW 120v from the 1940s-50s that still works it's very similar to Andy's 240 version. I may post a newer video of it soon
Pointolite are nice lamps, I have quire a few, they are easy to run if you have the 3 and 4 pin ES Bases.
Kind regards to you my friend.
@@Photonicinduction I have a question... what would happen if you caught lightning using a normal lightning rod... but then using a transformer or some other stuff, multiplied that voltage again by 1000x? What would happen?
extraordinary - thanks for powering up history. You have probably increased its value by not only having the lamp but a working one.
Any time I see old light bulbs, i.e. from the teens, twenties, or thirties, at estate sales, I snatch them up. I've never seen one of these, but rest assured, it would be no exception! Would be incredible to find one in the original box... What a wonderful piece of history...
Crazy to think that this is the only one of these lamps in the world being lit and it’s in his attic. lol
@@marcse7en To busy with the coof
@@marcse7en lol
@@Wayoutthere . . . and other political viruses.
What a bunch a charming bulbs... The little "locking" lever is such a lovely detail.
@Wylie Wiggins bulbs grow
lamps glow⚡
@@kimmason9935 when I was an apprentice the old boy I worked with used to say this to me all the time!
@Wylie Wiggins
According to Webster: 2: a bulb-shaped part
specifically : a glass envelope enclosing the light source of an electric lamp or such an envelope together with the light source it encloses
According to Oxford: 2: a light bulb.
Don’t be surprised if things have different names in different parts of the world.
Photon is the reason I became an electrician. We miss you sir!
Also - bring back glass blowing! Hardly anyone does it these days and it's truly a dying art.
i miss how mechanical electricity used to be.
@@marcse7en Indeed it is, but tiny ICs and SMCs controlling a plastic-wrapped motor is not the same as a 100yo lightbulb or rectifier going "bbzzzzzz... ka-chunk"
Back when even lighbulbs were serviceable
@@VictorGarciaR yeah that's what I meant lol. I know solenoids and such exist but they are hidden away, the vibe just isn't the same
"If i can get it working, it'll be the first video on the internet"
"Well ive already gone and done it *grin*"
What drew me to the channel initially were the chaotic destruction videos with all kinds of stuff i had never seen before and explained by an expert. But I also noticed that beneath the chaotic exterior there is a kind and sensitive man, and this video is further proof of that.
It's actially quite stirring to see it running. I'm genuinely emotional.
We don't *make* nice things like this anymore!
Don't know about everyone else, but I found that very VERY interesting.
I've never asked for a Patreon before, but you're the first channel I'd love to give a few dollars to. It'd be an honor to support the time money and effort you put into your videos!
I second that.
Same here
That's the first and only time i've seen one of these operate. AWESOME!!
COULD YOU PLEASE START DOING VIDEOS FOR ALL OF US TO ENJOY ON UA-cam ?? THANKS
"Thank you for watching" he says. Thank you for posting man. Don't ever stop showing the world unique and interesting things.
It's always fun to watch electrics pop from too much power but it's also fun to watch 100+ year old things still working fine.
Man he's being gentle with something for the first time wow
Haha. I understand your joke
Yea wassup? Nothing going pop? He may be getting older, or got new carpet
Open gently with a hammer. 🤣😂🤣
I did see a smashed smoke alarm on the floor 😁
@@pauly540 that was the 28748339th time he wasn't gentle with something
Bored,. with you? Never! I've been wanting to see a Nernst lamp in action for over twenty years. I am FLOORED by this. Thank you a thousand times.
I doubt I would ever get bored of your videos, even if I am a year late to the party. this one was particularly awesome!
When there are millions of UA-camrs and millions more wanting to become UA-camrs, it's not easy to stand out but Photonicinduction absolutely does and brings us content we could never get anywhere else. That was really interesting. Thank you.
That's what's so great about this channel, and others like Mikes Electric Stuff where we get to see the inner workings of the kind of equipment that most of us would never encounter in the flesh
I love these demonstrations of extremely rare and old technology that is basically impossible to find anywhere else on the internet. Stuff like this needs archiving and I hate it when old technology goes to waste just because it's old.
It's quite moving to see something so old and fragile being carefully brought back to life like this. I love these new vids - I didn't think you'd top the arc rectifier one but you just did. Thank you.
Thank-you for posting videos on all the ancient equipment in your collection, modern technology may be more efficient and safer but none of it is beautiful like the old stuff and with so little of the old stuff left and what is left being in the hands of people too afraid to power it up its a very rare sight indeed but always a pleasure.
Looks like she's feeding you well mate, Glad you're back uploading
he's back more than month ago)
@@mikhailchurakov in general I think he meant
neil davidson ok
@@mikhailchurakov Neil is bang on, I'm a long term subscriber , I won't pretend I always know what he's talking about but I'm always entertained
hahaha rough
When he says they're rare they're worth upwards of about £1,000 each.
Theres two on ebay, both the wrong side of £500, neither have any of the gubbins left in them.
That's it? A paltry £1000??
I'm not claiming omnipotence. But in all the years I've casually seen and looked up various historical nicks & nacks, on the internet or otherwise, i have never ONCE heard of these "Nernst lamps"
aside from today. That sort of rarity HAS to equate to more than that.
Especially with one this old.
@@davecrupel2817 Aside from Photonic Induction nobody could guarantee it was working, and thus the value is vastly reduced. Just like with historic firearms, if they work then the value goes up exponentially. As a curiosity not many people would be that interested and it's only a good conversation piece for a rich dude if you can turn it on.
This one is far more valuable for being a known quantity now.
This is the most beautifully crafted light bulb I’ve ever seen. And it works after 100 years. What a artisan level engineering this is. 😮❤👍
" Let me know if you get bored with the videos, and I will stop doing them." My friend, from looking at the comments, the thumbs up, and the amount of your subscribers, you will be making videos right up to the last moment you escape your mortal coil. Thank you, for another incredible, fascinating, and beautifully done video. Cheers.
It's 1AM here in Finland but sleep suddenly seems a lot less inviting when i can watch some quality content about nernst lamps instead.
1AM, not dark yet ?
Yeah it's 1AM in Romania too but I usually sleep at 7AM or i don't sleep at all yeah my sleep schedule is messed up
3 am in France for my part
I'd never heard of this type of bulb, it's a time machine to back when electricity was in its infancy! Thanks a ton Photon!
That is absolutely incredible. Sir you have made me want a 120 year old light bulb like no one as ever done before.
How could anyone get bored watching your shit! It's absolutely brilliant. Glad you returned. Don't go trying to pop the cat!
The light that bulb puts out, I’d describe it as charming and cozy. It’s warmer than a normal incandescent.
Technologie connections would love this lightbulb.
Oh please... No... I beg you...
@@MadScientist267 Thank you!
Would he demonstrate it's construction through the magic of buying two?
@@jaredkennedy6576 he would need at least three
@@jaredkennedy6576 Thats already been covered in the video
Andy just risked a $1500 USD lightbulb for our viewing pleasure, thats dedication. And something that probably few people alive have ever seen. A little bit of history, the Nernst lamp was developed in 1897 as one of the first incandescent lamps with any useable lifetime, they were also more efficient than carbon filament lamps and produced more natural light. They were used in the 1900 world fair at a German electrical equipment supplier. They were used in early fax systems, optometry slit lamps, projectors, and microscopy. They were also used in IR spectroscopy for awhile. In 1937 the main mine where the minerals for the glower were brought up was flooded by Lake Buchanan.
They are cool pieces of history, and this is probably one of the only videos online of an actual production lamp operating. You can see the zirconia glower outside of lamps, but none that I have found in a state like this.
Wow!
I've read about these, but could never find a visual explanation or even a photograph of one; let alone a full demonstration of a working model.
Thank you for solving a mystery. 👍
No exaggeration, I feel very privileged to have seen this lamp operate, thank you for the explanation and demonstration. Just marvellous.
Edit: I typed that two minutes before the end. Glad you feel the same.
Never heard of Nernst lamps before. Recently on Technology Connections, Alec showcased and discussed Gas Mantle Lamps which appear to operate on similar principles.
Thanks for sharing this with us, Andy. Operating just as it was designed for. Another brilliant contribution to the internet museum.
"it's old, and quite corroded" same, man. Same.
What an interesting bit of old technology! Kind of crude but elegant at the same time. There was a little part of me, however, that was expecting "where's my 'ammer?!" to come up at some point... glad it didn't! Although a smash/bang video once in a while wouldn't hurt. Just like the old days! Keep the vids coming mate!
I'll never get bored of learning about things I didn't even know existed.
What a marvellous contribution to nerds on the internet.
I guess it is good that you didn't pop it and your hammer wasn't needed this time.
Not boring! Welcome back and please continue!
Such a cool device! Imagine a whole building full of them and seeing the startup sequence on all of them
That has to be the holy grail of lamps !! . I must admit I never ever thought I’d see one of those things work . Where on earth did he find that one in such good condition ? . It gives a surprisingly good light . Excellent video !!!
Bored? No Andy, I've wanted to see one of these lit for several years after learning of their existence, this was a perfect video.
When we get a Photonicinduction video with no destruction, 'ammers or popping, you have to know it's a rarity being demonstrated... Thanks for showing these, I'd never seen or heard of them before.
That was incredibly impressive!! I wonder when the last time a Nernst lamp was lit up anywhere in the world? It's certainly been decades, at least. Thanks so much for sharing this!!
It seems, somewhat more modern Nernst lamps were still used in the 1960's for IR spectography equipment, there's probably a few labs around that haven't invested in more modern equipment.
Never seen a contraption like this. Awesome archaic, old technology :)
Archaic.. the Perfect Word drop ! Hugs
Archaic.. the Perfect Word drop ! Hugs
YES! I wanted to see one of these in operation for YEARS!
Someone busts down the door to your house in the middle of the night and you're waiting for your Nernst light-bulb to warm up so you can see who it is.
Love it! You don’t see old tech and lights like these anymore
This was extremeley interesting! I've heard and read about quite a few things, but this is the first time I've heard about the Nernst lamp!
Thank you for presenting this and ... a quick ebay search showed the prices go up from 1.500 USD! They must indeed be very rare!
Someone commented that a working one can go as expensive as 1 million
Imagine, being a 120 year old human, seeing the same lightbulb when they were a child lol
Imagine in 120 years we probably won't have artificial light anymore... again *FACEPALM*
Only comes around when it serves those in "Power".
ok
120 years ago they were probably still using oil lamps and candles. Electric light was for the wealthy
Ah yes, a nice stroll through the "Uncanny Valley"..................Seriously though, they be lookin' at you like, "What you mean you had to replace your light bulb"?
Hello. I am typing from the year 2261. Air is a commodity. Please save yo-selves. I'm dieing lack of oxy-
During my exploration days I'm almost certain I've stumbled upon some of those lamp bases at random locations. I'd actually dismissed them as being part of an oil lamp and wandered off - if only I'd known!
Fascinating video and as you say: It's now on the internet and will be there forever. Nice one!
Thanks for taking the chance for us. Serious history there.