You might think that this game was rushed, but according to Matt McMussels video on it, they weren't rushed at all. This is the game they WANTED to make, and now they paid the price for it. Even so, apparently there's a fan remake in the works so it must've done SOMETHING right. With that said, how would you make a Sonic RPG? Personally, I would prefer one in the style of the Mario & Luigi games.
1:22 - 1:38 Alright, so okay if the voice has kind of no effort and you (and other people) find it annoying, but I'd like to point out that, in one of Charriii's streams (I don't remember which), he tells that the reason for that voice is because he was going through puberty, so he couldn't try harder with the Tails' voice.
At 24:14 "Suddenly Soundgarden" "Who?" Soundgarden. An American rock band from the 90's who had a song titled Black Hole Sun. But, this is still a Chariii5 makes a pop culture reference that isn't a sin of the game cliche.
You know, sonic Chronicles might not be a bad rpg if they just change the battle system into something similar to Mario and Luigi idea, and if only they didn't do that stupid cliffhanger if they plan to not to make a sequel. No one likes cliffhangers and then just ends just like that. But Of course, Penders has to ruin the fun.
Sonic chronicles, this games ends the era of the 7 sonic games (excluding 3&k) i haven't played as the game after this will be unleashed (i like unleashed if you want my thoughts on it), I won't make a rebuttal for it as said before cus it will take forever, anyways, ill be waiting
Actually chariiis first video was shadow the hedgehog, im guessing you're not counting it cus it was remade, I think ill do a rebuttal for unleashed if there's anything to critique there
@@DShy96 The only videos of his that are outdated are his original Colors and Shadow videos. He’s willing to recap his Sunshine video word for word for the 3D All-Stars video with no improvements to the script whatsoever even though that video was years old. And I don’t care how old a video is. If Th3Birdman can tear apart CinemaSins first ever video, I can debunk Charriii’s second.
The moment I watched the final boss rankings to watching this video, I knew sins would be taken off the counter for this final boss, I never played Sonic Chronicles but if THAT's the final boss, then I wouldn't just consider this Insulting, I'd consider this a SCAM if anything
TonySonic fails to point out that POW moves ignore abilities like Phase and Evasion, and he actually lowers the sin counter at that point. To be fair, the combat isn't exactly riveting, but literally the whole thing that Charriii5 was ranting about could have been solved if he just used POW moves.
Well, for me, there’s a point funny bad becomes bad bad. Case in point, the plays in Thor Ragnorok, Hawkeye, and Thor Love and Thunder. They were funny at first, but then they became cringe.
I don’t think Rouge really flirts with Sonic. It might come off that way, but I am positive she just respects him a lot and treats him like an adult, similar to how Telma treats Link in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess.
This was your first video I got through 1. You like what everybody thinks of when they hear the word nerd and I wasn't expecting that 2. Charriii's videos are sarcastic and nickpicky because these videos are not actual critiques and are meant for the sole purpose of funni 3. Since your video is an actual critique, you can't add a sin for a joke you didn't get
For 25:34, the creature name was Argus, who governed the balance of the multiverse from threats like the nocturne and the other species locked in there you get this info from an echidna in the first are in the twilight cage after collecting ancient tablets
wait a sec, this vid premiered 2h ago? I dropped the charrii5 vid because I was finding myself disagreeing with his points too often and scrolled some more. initially I was looking for a genuine review of the game, considering I actually really did like this game. sure it could have done better but I never felt like its story or characters were off. also I'm fairly sure I managed to romance amy in my playthrough as well, so there's that. Like, ultimately, you can really feel that there's a lot of passion put into the game (even tho people do have gripes with the way the game looks and controls, but honestly, I was used to that. it's the DS after all, no game I played ever left me feeling like it had flawless controls on the DS). And I feel like no one dares to ever talk about it ever.
1:48 That, or maybe they got a hold of the Marauders' Map. No, but seriously, it's nice to hear someone use the correct American pronunciation for "marauders", instead of bloody Morgan from MovieFlame saying "marorders" due to misinterpreting the British pronunciation.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with breaking the fourth wall. I just hate it as it breaks emergin for me unless the game is about breaking the fourth wall. But, that’s a nit pick, so I would put it in a nit pick counter and not the sin counter.
Much like the Meta Era games, Sonic Chronicles has a poor story, but not because of its laughable writing, but because it's just forgettable. Sonic Chronicles is just a forgettable Sonic game overall.
@@multifandomfangirl9664 “Somewhat better?” Are you nuts? This is LEAGUES better than the trash Pontac and Graff came up with. Yeah, it’s not the best Sonic story ever, but compared to the meta era, it looks like a masterpiece.
My thoughts on this game: Graphics aren't terrible, but not amazing. Combat is decent and I like the Sonic Heroes moves they threw in. Plus, the roster is varied. The story is also interesting. I will admit that the final boss is anticlimactic. Probably because Super Sonic is OP, but still. It's not the worst boss ever (especially since there's Heat Mobile from Sonic and Knuckles) but could've been so much better. I appreciate what SEGA tried to do. 'B' tier game is the grade I give it
Bio ware made this abomination, you know? The guys that made hole 3 GAMES on nintendo consoles: chronicles, MDK 2 on wiiware and mass effect 3 on wii u ( and fun fact: wii u port was realese AFTER the hole trilogy on ps4 and xbox one and wii u port don't have dlc so cool ) and still nothink for switch That makes a cliffhanger on every game they made. E.V.E.R.Y. G.A.M.E. And got buyed by EA and after that makes almost nothing since then exept Anthem but we don't talk about Anthem
But why? Outside of one tease from Rouge, they have next to no romantic interest in each other. People just ship them because they’re both echidnas, and that’s it.
@@sandudelcea6707 …She doesn’t have a voice in the game. That’s just a fan voice. Also, that’s more of a waifu reason than a ship with a specific character reason.
1) I find the Tails voice amusing because of how much it contrasts his otherwise perfect impressions of the rest of male Sonic cast. 2) I remember having my fun with this game, though I was a kid at the time. These days, I'll play either Miitopia, Pokémon, or Mario & Luigi: Dream Team if I want to get my RPG fix.
I love sonic i really do and as much as i love rpg games in general, Chronicles is a bit of a mixed bag for me. I loved it back then when i first played it but i cant even bring myself to enjoy it anymore nowadays despite it again being an rpg type game and a different take on the series as a whole. Shade was an interesting addition to the game as well but then again, the game as a whole is just underwhelming in almost every category. a solid 5/10 for me. Interesting concept, poor execution
No sequel yet. I've noticed that this game had low sales, and BioWare have been a part of EA since 2007, when this game was still in development. This was their last non-EA game.
Man sonic chronicles just exists I think this game could work but they really messed up so it's forgotten and hated that's said so up next is a better sonic game I can't wait for it.
I'm glad to see you uploading today! I haven't played this game but it looks really bad. I'll stick with the Mario RPGs. And Charriii's video was decent. Also, it's funny that you uploaded the day Charriii made another Pokemon EWW. And is the next game Sonic Unleashed?
@@tonysonic456 Here we go, into the earliest video you'll cover. I'm ready for pain. Sin # 1: And we're staring off with nitpicking? This is already going badly! Sin # 2: A lot. Sin # 7: Gross. Sin # 8: "Charriii sins absolutely nothing" cliche. Sin # 9: So laughing is a sin now? Sin # 10: "Charriii makes a pop culture reference that isn't a sin of the game" cliche. Sin # 11: But this is Sonic, not the real world. Sin # 12: "Charriii makes a real life ref-" Sin # 14: "Charriii makes a pop culture ref-" I'm already sick of typing this. Sin # 18: Sonic physics. Sin # 19: "Charriii sins the same thing twice" cliche. Sin # 21: Sonic does. Sin # 23: "Charriii sins the same thing a third time" cliche. Sin # 24: Not in the Sonic world. Sin # 26: Sonic logic. Sin # 27: See previous sin. Sin # 28: Gross. Sin # 30: Hammerspace. Sin # 32: But he looks very different. Sin # 33: Okay, and that's a problem why? Sin # 37: "Charriii sins the same thing twice" cliche. Sin # 41: "Charriii sins characterization" cliche. I think. Sin # 43: "Charriii points out things on the screen" cliche. Sin # 44: "Charriii sins the same thing a fourth time" cliche. Sin # 48: And I feel the need to mention that shouting isn't funny. Sin # 50: And is this real life? Sin # 52: Yes. Sin # 56: That's a sin of 06. Sin # 60: "Charriii makes a pop culture ref-" Sin # 63: Hammerspace. Sin # 64: Your point is? Sin # 69: "Charriii points out things on the screen" cliche. Sin # 71: And how is that a sin? Sin # 74: Sonic logic. Sin # 77: If this was the real world. Sin # 81: It's another name for it. Sin # 82: Explain why that's a sin. Sin # 83: And he wasn't expecting it. Probably. Sin # 86: What happened to your audio? Sin # 87: "Charriii makes a Pokemon ref-" Sin # 89: "Charriii makes a pop culture ref-" Sin # 90: Again, why is that a sin? Sin # 91: "Charriii makes a video game ref-" Sin # 93: "Charriii makes a video game ref-" Sin # 94: "Charriii makes a pop culture ref-" this is annoying. Sin # 96: That's a nitpick. Sin # 97: Once again, you don't understand Sonic logic. Sin # 99: See previous sin. Sin # 103: Probably. Yup, that sucked. It was just a lot of pop culture references.
19:04 i know that Sonic Team said that everything is canon and apparently the encyclospeedia debunks it with ONLY this game but i can't be sure cause i don't have it in my land
Oh, how I remember seeing this game on UA-cam as a little innocent kid and being all like "Ohhh, cool Sonic RPG on DS, I GOTTA play it!" Then, I did, and found out the sad truth about it. I don't really hate it SO much though, I just wish it could've been much better, if it had a nice OST instead of really bad remixes of the best songs in the Sonic games, ruining them like that. And I wish they did more with the Chao Garden, making a playable area to take care of some cute little Chao's, like in the Adventure series. And though I like that you can use them as battle equipments and boosters, I just can't help but *HATE* how you can only level them up by trading only. Sure, you can rely on cheats instead, but where's the fun in that? The game is also *extremely* buggy and glitchy, I remember how sometimes when I saved, the game would freeze and I would have to restart it. Thank God it still saved my progress though, or SO HELP ME God. The same happened when entering a battle too, though not commonly. And while I'm mentioning battle, I absolutely *LOATHE* the combat system. The strategizing is hard, and literally everything about it, and the fact enemies' sounds are just generic cartoonish sound effects. And don't even get me started on the final boss. What should be an epic final battle, just felt like a regular fight, and that's downright underwhelming. I like the new OC Shade though. The only thing I like in this. (Sigh) I just wish they even tried with game. Sonic 06 Haters, this game is for you. 4/10. Wouldn't play it again.
9:32 More so, to add that sin, Sonic was just confused about how Eggman survived the crash of the Egg Carrier from the intro cutscene, he didn't actually asked like his mission was to kill him. 10:32 I was expecting a "Charriii points out things on the screen" cliche, but okay. 11:06 / 33:30 How is that "taking a shot at you"? The first one you can even see that he's just trying to let that one pass, given that there's been more worth typos to sin, but the second one, granted, he's kinda just indecisive, and in that case he should have just given that a no sin, which is the real sin here. Also, I don't want to sound rude with this, but given that your channel started after this video was released, I don't think there would be a community based on either those things; maybe the "trying to debunk his sins", but the typos are kinda viewed like legitimate sins to me IMO, because that's just total laziness and carelessness from the subtitle writers and something made for a public is not supposed to look like they're posting a text on a social media. Like, who even does that? 40:12 😂😂😂 LMAO EXACTLY
Good luck with this one. Chariii video on this was actually pretty good imo. And he even said that ix was the most pathetic final boss he has ever seen which I can tell you will agree with that
@@davidthemusicman1046 yep I remember you made a video called “Lucian is the worst final boss I have ever faced” and you put him at number 1 of your worst final bosses
@@naaylealikhan8129 ya he Will be forever my most hated final boss of all time nothing can come close except star wars Battlefront 2 Remake final boss.
9:37 Eggman dies in Sonic 06, and dies in shadow the hedgehog. It doesn’t matter if it wasn’t cannon those are still 2 games eggman dies in. And assuming when tails talks about Eggman’s recent defeat, it sounds like he could’ve died, therefore we can assume he’s dead, thus making it 3 games
I have very mixed feelings on Chronicles on the one hand I like Shade as a character and I love the many interactions the characters have with one another. Plus it was the first DS Sonic game I played. However it has many flaws its story is somewhat half baked, it's fights range from lackluster to laughable, the villian is extremely underwhelming both in character and in battle, and biggest flaw of all its extremely boring and forgettable. My overall rating of this game is a generous 5/10.
I legitimately forgot this game existed and even when Charriii5 covered it in an EWW, so I was confused on why you made a video on this. That is how bad this game is.
@@austria-hungary7680 in all honesty, I (as well as TonySonic) like this game. The hate was over-exaggerated. I see no reason to forget this game, especially cause this game was made in 2006.
Hey Tonysonic, great video as always... though I noticed you started to get angry with the final boss again when charriii sinned it... if I may ask... are you... feeling ok??
Honestly I wanna see a 2nd game just to see if it can be approved and to wrap up the cliff hanger… HELL I’LL MAKE THE 2ND GAME! (Edit: I find the Tails voice funny because it’s just that bad)
Same here. I even would like to remake the first game and do a massive overhaul in trying to improve all the faults (though that is a tall order since a lot is wrong with the game).
From what I know, the sin on the lack of an accent on Marta Lois González' name was on Sonic Origins, this game, and the DS version of Sonic Colours. Any other games?
Hey TonySonic i just finished Sonic 4 Episode 1 and about Metal Robotnik i didnt think it was that bad of a fight, it isnt nearly as good as Deathegg Robot and music isnt that good, but everithing else was tolerable. I died a few times on this boss before i unestood how the atacks worked i knew that this atacks arent bullshit hard to avoid, for exemple i was able to spindash under him nearly every single time he started hoping around, the launching hand gave me trouble because the timing is tricky but hiting the had back at him was no problem, i did it EVERY SINGLE TIME and ones you deli er the final blow it feels ever so satasfing, so yeah i think you just need to get good
The problem isn't the difficulty it's because it's annoying. 1. The music is terrible like you said 2. It's lazy as it's a knockoff of the Death Egg Robot from Sonic the Hedgehog 2. 3. It's actually easier than the OG version due to the Rings, and the massive hitbox which eliminates the tension and as such the payoff is less satisfying As such he doesn't need to get good. He just hates the fight, although it's almost universally hated so yeah.
I honestly don’t like Sonic Chronicles, the only thing I do like about Chronicles is Shade the Echidna, one of my favorite Sonic characters. then the asshole that is Ken Penders happened.
(16:10) Even though I dismissed this point in your Heroes video, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to shut this down again. Knuckles leaving the Master Emerald to help Sonic defeat Eggman is not a good excuse on why he left. At the time it just seem like a regular "Eggman is taking over the world and Sonic goes to stop him" scenario, No Perfect Chaos, or Biolizard to back him up. Sonic has handle that stuff by himself since GAME 1 with no company whatsoever. Also guarding what you call a "Gem", an extremely powerful gem is just as important as a world or even universal destruction since it can also be a threat if fell into the wrong hands. (35:03) Wait why'd you sin that?
Yes, but Eggman is constantly building better and more dangerous machines to conquer the world. The Master Emerald is an incredibly powerful gem, but if the world is conquered, it'll be put in even more danger. So in a way, he is still protecting the Master Emerald when off the island.
@@tonysonic456 Ok you're mostly right about Sonic needing help to defeat Eggman. But again with Knuckles, he still needs to watch over the Master Emerald, if not have someone trustworthy at least watch it because like I said, The Master Emerald can also be a great threat if falling into the WRONG HANDS.
@@BJSolar02 True, but that's the decision Knuckles has to make. Stop a greater threat, or protect the Master Emerald. Besides, how do you think the Master Emerald could work into Heroes' plot?
@@tonysonic456 Well I do have 1 huge reason on how they could use the Master Emerald. While having all the Teams data (excluding Chaotix), Metal Sonic could've stolen the Master Emerald and used it's power, like it's shown in the IDW comics. That would give Knuckles a good enough reason to actually leave the island and team up with Sonic and Tails.
0:58 to be fair, you said 06 was pretty enjoyable despite its flaws while Chronicles on the other hand was basura from beginning to end 16:55 and wasn't there mention of how currency doesn't exist in Sonic? 🤔 BTW, I think this video might've gotten the highest record for most sins removed. And I wonder why we never use the term "turn based strategy"? There are RPGs that don't use a turn based mechanic like The Witcher, Cyberpunk 2077 and Fallout.
I think they should just make a brand new sonic rpg and maybe it could spawn a series, also I see you continue to stop being toxic to charriii, if you're making an effort to, know I thank you for it and appreciate it
Say about this game what you will, I love it and am very fond of it. It's been way to many hours of my childhood. Looking back I obviously recognize the poor quality of it(I still think it's a pretty decent rpg) but God this isy biggest guilty pleasure as a sonic fan
16:54 *OH, HELL NO!!* You did NOT just diss my boy Jacksepticeye for the damn coffee everyone complains about! Seriously, what is wrong with selling merch you like?! (Granted, he has said that he doesn’t like EVERY item on the merch store, but in his own words, it’s not just for him.)
Here's a theory; Sonic Chronicles is a prequel to the Meta Era games. Real Sonic is locked in the cage and Eggman created Meta Era versions of the characters due to being lonely and Sonic Forces is just a propaganda video to make people hopeful but Eggman still ruled the planet till Real Sonic existed the cage.
Wait, we're not getting Sonic Chronicles sequel, let alone another Sonic RPG, because of Ken Penders? WHY!? And HOW!? He already f*cked up the Archie Comics, what did he do to THIS Genre? And didn't he think he already did enough damage to SEGA as a whole when he caused the reboot to happen, why de have to go and ruin this as well?
To make a long story short, Penders wanted to sue Sega for using the Nocturnus clan just because they looked vaguely similar to the Dark Legion from the Archie comics. Archie hit the reset button on the comics, erasing every single one of Penders’ OCs because he had tried to claim those characters as his own, and Sega abandoned the Chronicles storyline for fear of Penders making another attempt at suing them again.
@@tonysonic456 Oh, so that's why the lawsuit that kick-started the Super Genesis wave happened. Man, F*ck Ken Penders. Just because 2 characters, stories, concepts, etc. are vaguely similar, that doesn't mean that they're carbon copies. And now he's ruined the zaniest Sonic franchise to date and the Chronicles storyline was left unfinished everyone suffered because of it. At least he got his comeuppance too (At least, I hope so), as now all of his OCs are now completely erased, never to be used by anyone again.
I wanted to say something about the entire charriii5 harassment thing Disclaimers are important, wierd things like "im correcting his mistakes" instead of "this is a series made for comedy", so I think people think charriii is actually seriously stupid about game facts
For the 3 times, charriii5 was implying the first time was rush second was adventure now here as have you seen what happened to the robots both eggman and eggman nega was piloting
You didn't sin the ambush mechanics being tied to your level, meaning if you get ambushed, you're underleveled, and if you ambush them, you're overleveled
@TheDMan2003 when I did a new game plus playthrough I was at lev 48 and until angel island I got preemptive strikes on every battle even bosses I ambushed them
@@tonysonic456 Yes, but to say something like that? It's a really weird thing to hear in a Sonic Game of all things and I'd say it's a noteworthy thing to point out. (banger video though, it's made clear that this is all for shits and giggles and not made out of malicious intent and i like that)
I mean, it would be actually funny if they actually DIDNT want to be credited for God of War and did for this…….game, like it actually was 100% their own decision and they decided for it for this of all games. But also, about the stairs thing, I actually do get it, since not only do the stairs look completely different from the ‘walkable surfaces’, they look just like normal roof tiling, as well as being slightly layered above the normal walkable surfaces, so I also would think that’s not a walkable surface, however, as an RPG player, I would walk into it still. Hey, y’never know when there’s a hidden passage or a hidden item anyway, c’mon, that’s just asking for an Excalibur placement or a hidden Elixir or something. And yeah, of course the final boss is nothingness, but I suppose it IS a Super Sonic boss fight, and the enemy isn’t some super powered robot or force of nature, but a literal Squishy Wizard, so it DOES make sense that he would attack fast and go down even faster. Of course it is still Chronicles, so that whole combat system isn’t helping, but yeah, it’s understandable that the final boss is as disappointing as it is, kinda works with the whole game itself though…..
6:43 Hoo boy, wait till this guy watches the _Harry Potter_ movies (or reads the books) - it'll totally blow his mind. Then again, he'll prolly think _Harry Potter_ stole the concept of seeking out 7 important items from _Sonic,_ which would make as much sense as claiming _Inside Out_ ripped off _Osmosis Jones._
I mean Elise died on the fleet and by the cutscene when it’s about to crash it’s assumed that so did eggman, And charri did say “Supposedly have died” Even if it was a fake out in the end it doesn’t matter because at the time Sonic thought he was dead.
@@jeanlsmrio Well even then, Charriii worded it as if Eggman had died twice before in the series, and Lost World wouldn’t come out for another 5 years.
23:52.. Missed sin, This game was made by BioWare, the same group behind Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, what Charriii5 should've said was something to the effect from "Suddenly, HK-47 from Knights of the Old Republic" because HK-47 frequently uses the term "meatbags / organic meatbags" to refer to non-droids... it would be a pop culture reference / reference from another game as a sin; but the devs thought they could sneak this one into OMEGA's dialogue
37:33 i correct him in a comment also in his Sonic Origins stream i did let him pointing out this mistake and he said "oh yeah my bad" cause he did it a second time
Played this game and damn. Despite me liking the story for the most part and the attention to lore on the Echidnas and Gizoids, the gameplay was terrible and boring. For an RPG, Sonic Chronicles is an example of how not to do an RPG. It so could've been something like Final Fantasy or Paper Mario. And there was a missed opportunity in having Gmerl in the game. Like seriously, he could've been in the game with Cream trying to help her find Cheese and clearly, him being in the story could've been interesting for characters like Shade and Ix to bring up, like maybe Ix saying something like Gmerl is interesting but hasn't properly reached the potential of the "one" he was based on, obviously referencing Emerl (up until IDW, SEGA basically forgot him despite being a potential powerful robot ally like Omega. I don't count Archie because he basically was just Shard).
First of all, that's only two, and he's saying this would be the third time. Second, do you know how many times Eggman has been in his machines when they've exploded? He's been fine so many times before. Falling from that height shouldn't be any different. Plus, 06 didn't treat as his death. Just another defeat.
@@tonysonic456 I wasn’t expecting a response, but whenever Eggman’s mechs blow up, he usually bails. In 06, (Kingdom Valley) Eggman didn’t look like he had a backup plan once his Battleship randomly “malfunctions” so I would assume he dies along with Elise (before sonic changed the timeline). And also, I didn’t need to point out the Shadow the hedgehog endings bc Charii already said that. They aren’t cannon but still.
@@brooketurner8648 Non-canon endings don't count. Also, survived his robot crashing into the ocean from space with him in it in Sonic 3&K. He can survive that. If he couldn't, they would acknowledge it to some degree.
@@tonysonic456 You have a point about the non-cannon Endings. But I was talking about Charii’s assumption (either way he survived). He did survive in 3&K. But like I said: “Eggman usually bails before the explosion.”. To wrap this up: Charii assumed that the third “death” was Chronicles. And the 2 games I can think of are the deaths in Shadow and 06. Idk if you’re aware of a channel correcting you as well. Keep up the good work.
40:08 Eh... personally, I'd say Dr. Cortex in... basically any _Crash Bandicoot_ game I've played is more deserving of that title, but to each their own.
@@tonysonic456 For me personally, I’ve only played the original trilogy on PS1. Admittedly, Cortex isn’t a bad boss *per se* in those games, but he’s disappointingly easy after the penultimate boss being so difficult to beat that it’s actually satisfying to beat him (N. Brio in the first game, and N. Gin in the following two).
Hey, to each their fun. Personally, if you like the game, then you like the game. Simple as that. Ngl, it's always nice to get an opinion that's different from the norm. A lot of people I've heard of hate this game, so it's nice to know that people find the game enjoyable.
Very nice in my opinion I hate this game so much I do not like the final boss I do not like the levels, I do not love the music, and I don't like the bosses
It is, and it's fine if you like the Tails voice. The first two questions were meant as a joke which I thought would be obvious given the Forces clip I used. I can respect an opinion if you have good reason behind it.
You might think that this game was rushed, but according to Matt McMussels video on it, they weren't rushed at all. This is the game they WANTED to make, and now they paid the price for it. Even so, apparently there's a fan remake in the works so it must've done SOMETHING right.
With that said, how would you make a Sonic RPG? Personally, I would prefer one in the style of the Mario & Luigi games.
Oh look a Mario & Luigi ripoff
I have the game but never played it
@TonySonic same here. Especially with a counter attack combat system just like those games.
1:22 - 1:38 Alright, so okay if the voice has kind of no effort and you (and other people) find it annoying, but I'd like to point out that, in one of Charriii's streams (I don't remember which), he tells that the reason for that voice is because he was going through puberty, so he couldn't try harder with the Tails' voice.
What's the next video Tony?
At 24:14
"Suddenly Soundgarden"
"Who?"
Soundgarden. An American rock band from the 90's who had a song titled Black Hole Sun. But, this is still a Chariii5 makes a pop culture reference that isn't a sin of the game cliche.
I just discovered this channel and this is some quality content right here.
Chariii5: Q'Bert?
Robotnik: NO!
This game led to the downfall of Archie Sonic
You know, sonic Chronicles might not be a bad rpg if they just change the battle system into something similar to Mario and Luigi idea, and if only they didn't do that stupid cliffhanger if they plan to not to make a sequel. No one likes cliffhangers and then just ends just like that.
But Of course, Penders has to ruin the fun.
Sonic chronicles, this games ends the era of the 7 sonic games (excluding 3&k) i haven't played as the game after this will be unleashed (i like unleashed if you want my thoughts on it), I won't make a rebuttal for it as said before cus it will take forever, anyways, ill be waiting
Actually chariiis first video was shadow the hedgehog, im guessing you're not counting it cus it was remade, I think ill do a rebuttal for unleashed if there's anything to critique there
@@DShy96 The only videos of his that are outdated are his original Colors and Shadow videos. He’s willing to recap his Sunshine video word for word for the 3D All-Stars video with no improvements to the script whatsoever even though that video was years old. And I don’t care how old a video is. If Th3Birdman can tear apart CinemaSins first ever video, I can debunk Charriii’s second.
Yeah I guess its kinda old, but I still think ill have a handful of things to say
@@DShy96 I’ve been busy with work and this video. I’ll get around to it eventually.
What question may I ask, and who are you asking
The moment I watched the final boss rankings to watching this video, I knew sins would be taken off the counter for this final boss, I never played Sonic Chronicles but if THAT's the final boss, then I wouldn't just consider this Insulting, I'd consider this a SCAM if anything
I can't believe I played this game when I was younger...
Same
TonySonic fails to point out that POW moves ignore abilities like Phase and Evasion, and he actually lowers the sin counter at that point. To be fair, the combat isn't exactly riveting, but literally the whole thing that Charriii5 was ranting about could have been solved if he just used POW moves.
1:32
1: Nothing
2:Nope
3:i think it's funny because it sounds so bad that is actually funny...and because i have a broke sense of humor
Well, for me, there’s a point funny bad becomes bad bad. Case in point, the plays in Thor Ragnorok, Hawkeye, and Thor Love and Thunder. They were funny at first, but then they became cringe.
@@tonysonic456 and the one in Love and Thunder actually undermines Hela as a villain by making her look more comedic.
I don’t think Rouge really flirts with Sonic. It might come off that way, but I am positive she just respects him a lot and treats him like an adult, similar to how Telma treats Link in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess.
40:12 Oh please that’s not pathetic ITS INSULTING!
This was your first video I got through
1. You like what everybody thinks of when they hear the word nerd and I wasn't expecting that
2. Charriii's videos are sarcastic and nickpicky because these videos are not actual critiques and are meant for the sole purpose of funni
3. Since your video is an actual critique, you can't add a sin for a joke you didn't get
I like how you referenced hello neighbor in the best way possible. A kid who looks like a 30 🤣🤣🤣
For 25:34, the creature name was Argus, who governed the balance of the multiverse from threats like the nocturne and the other species locked in there you get this info from an echidna in the first are in the twilight cage after collecting ancient tablets
wait a sec, this vid premiered 2h ago? I dropped the charrii5 vid because I was finding myself disagreeing with his points too often and scrolled some more. initially I was looking for a genuine review of the game, considering I actually really did like this game. sure it could have done better but I never felt like its story or characters were off. also I'm fairly sure I managed to romance amy in my playthrough as well, so there's that.
Like, ultimately, you can really feel that there's a lot of passion put into the game (even tho people do have gripes with the way the game looks and controls, but honestly, I was used to that. it's the DS after all, no game I played ever left me feeling like it had flawless controls on the DS). And I feel like no one dares to ever talk about it ever.
1:48 That, or maybe they got a hold of the Marauders' Map.
No, but seriously, it's nice to hear someone use the correct American pronunciation for "marauders", instead of bloody Morgan from MovieFlame saying "marorders" due to misinterpreting the British pronunciation.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with breaking the fourth wall.
I just hate it as it breaks emergin for me unless the game is about breaking the fourth wall.
But, that’s a nit pick, so I would put it in a nit pick counter and not the sin counter.
Much like the Meta Era games, Sonic Chronicles has a poor story, but not because of its laughable writing, but because it's just forgettable. Sonic Chronicles is just a forgettable Sonic game overall.
True but I enjoyed it as a kid
Story is somewhat better than the meta era tbh
I actually loved the story
@@multifandomfangirl9664 “Somewhat better?” Are you nuts? This is LEAGUES better than the trash Pontac and Graff came up with. Yeah, it’s not the best Sonic story ever, but compared to the meta era, it looks like a masterpiece.
I had never heard of this game before your video. And I’m not upset about it from your review.
*Charriii5* Nope not worth it
*TonySonic* 4 times?
@@DShy96 He was referencing Tony's video on Charriii's eww fnaf video.
Its a random reference, not bad but just random
Yoooo that’s a sick thumbnail!
9:39 I think Eggman might’ve ‘died’ after the Egg Wyvern fight in 06. That might be what Charriii was talking about.
Well, that event was technically erased from the timeline so I don't know if that would count.
My thoughts on this game: Graphics aren't terrible, but not amazing. Combat is decent and I like the Sonic Heroes moves they threw in. Plus, the roster is varied. The story is also interesting. I will admit that the final boss is anticlimactic. Probably because Super Sonic is OP, but still. It's not the worst boss ever (especially since there's Heat Mobile from Sonic and Knuckles) but could've been so much better. I appreciate what SEGA tried to do. 'B' tier game is the grade I give it
Bio ware made this abomination, you know?
The guys that made hole 3 GAMES on nintendo consoles: chronicles, MDK 2 on wiiware and mass effect 3 on wii u ( and fun fact: wii u port was realese AFTER the hole trilogy on ps4 and xbox one and wii u port don't have dlc so cool ) and still nothink for switch
That makes a cliffhanger on every game they made. E.V.E.R.Y. G.A.M.E.
And got buyed by EA and after that makes almost nothing since then exept Anthem but we don't talk about Anthem
22:53 he wants 2 ship knuckles and shade, and apparently if she's 4000 years old, then it'd be "wierd"
But why? Outside of one tease from Rouge, they have next to no romantic interest in each other. People just ship them because they’re both echidnas, and that’s it.
@@tonysonic456 also shade is hot and her voice is amazing, maybe that's why
@@sandudelcea6707 …She doesn’t have a voice in the game. That’s just a fan voice. Also, that’s more of a waifu reason than a ship with a specific character reason.
@@tonysonic456 well, whoever did the voice, you should've removed a sin becuz of her, also what's a waifu ?
@@sandudelcea6707 A fictional character that you would fall in love with if they were real.
1) I find the Tails voice amusing because of how much it contrasts his otherwise perfect impressions of the rest of male Sonic cast.
2) I remember having my fun with this game, though I was a kid at the time. These days, I'll play either Miitopia, Pokémon, or Mario & Luigi: Dream Team if I want to get my RPG fix.
I love sonic i really do and as much as i love rpg games in general, Chronicles is a bit of a mixed bag for me. I loved it back then when i first played it but i cant even bring myself to enjoy it anymore nowadays despite it again being an rpg type game and a different take on the series as a whole. Shade was an interesting addition to the game as well but then again, the game as a whole is just underwhelming in almost every category. a solid 5/10 for me. Interesting concept, poor execution
17:52 thank you for make me remember my biggest disapointend game in last 4 years 👍
BTW: they making sequel? No thanks
No sequel yet. I've noticed that this game had low sales, and BioWare have been a part of EA since 2007, when this game was still in development. This was their last non-EA game.
@@InfiniteFury2K did you even know what was on that minute? hello neigbor not chonickles
@@volvoman5262 Oh, right.
I am wondering about something: Has Charriii ever watched your videos or listened to your feedback?
He has mentioned that he knows about me in a live stream. Doesn’t seem to have any negative feelings about me which is good.
@@tonysonic456 which live stream
@@isiahbanks147 Episode 1 of his Playing Every Single Sonic Game Until Frontiers series.
Awesome video. I have an idea. Maybe at the end of the year of sonic maybe then you can do that Scott the woz thing. And ya chronicles sucks for sure
Man sonic chronicles just exists I think this game could work but they really messed up so it's forgotten and hated that's said so up next is a better sonic game I can't wait for it.
I'm glad to see you uploading today! I haven't played this game but it looks really bad. I'll stick with the Mario RPGs. And Charriii's video was decent. Also, it's funny that you uploaded the day Charriii made another Pokemon EWW. And is the next game Sonic Unleashed?
Yes it is.
@@tonysonic456 Cool. I'll get the sins soon.
@@tonysonic456 Here we go, into the earliest video you'll cover. I'm ready for pain.
Sin # 1: And we're staring off with nitpicking? This is already going badly!
Sin # 2: A lot.
Sin # 7: Gross.
Sin # 8: "Charriii sins absolutely nothing" cliche.
Sin # 9: So laughing is a sin now?
Sin # 10: "Charriii makes a pop culture reference that isn't a sin of the game" cliche.
Sin # 11: But this is Sonic, not the real world.
Sin # 12: "Charriii makes a real life ref-"
Sin # 14: "Charriii makes a pop culture ref-" I'm already sick of typing this.
Sin # 18: Sonic physics.
Sin # 19: "Charriii sins the same thing twice" cliche.
Sin # 21: Sonic does.
Sin # 23: "Charriii sins the same thing a third time" cliche.
Sin # 24: Not in the Sonic world.
Sin # 26: Sonic logic.
Sin # 27: See previous sin.
Sin # 28: Gross.
Sin # 30: Hammerspace.
Sin # 32: But he looks very different.
Sin # 33: Okay, and that's a problem why?
Sin # 37: "Charriii sins the same thing twice" cliche.
Sin # 41: "Charriii sins characterization" cliche. I think.
Sin # 43: "Charriii points out things on the screen" cliche.
Sin # 44: "Charriii sins the same thing a fourth time" cliche.
Sin # 48: And I feel the need to mention that shouting isn't funny.
Sin # 50: And is this real life?
Sin # 52: Yes.
Sin # 56: That's a sin of 06.
Sin # 60: "Charriii makes a pop culture ref-"
Sin # 63: Hammerspace.
Sin # 64: Your point is?
Sin # 69: "Charriii points out things on the screen" cliche.
Sin # 71: And how is that a sin?
Sin # 74: Sonic logic.
Sin # 77: If this was the real world.
Sin # 81: It's another name for it.
Sin # 82: Explain why that's a sin.
Sin # 83: And he wasn't expecting it. Probably.
Sin # 86: What happened to your audio?
Sin # 87: "Charriii makes a Pokemon ref-"
Sin # 89: "Charriii makes a pop culture ref-"
Sin # 90: Again, why is that a sin?
Sin # 91: "Charriii makes a video game ref-"
Sin # 93: "Charriii makes a video game ref-"
Sin # 94: "Charriii makes a pop culture ref-" this is annoying.
Sin # 96: That's a nitpick.
Sin # 97: Once again, you don't understand Sonic logic.
Sin # 99: See previous sin.
Sin # 103: Probably.
Yup, that sucked. It was just a lot of pop culture references.
@@tonysonic456 Hell, yeah! (Unleashed is one of my favorites, so I've been looking forward to that video).
@@An_Account1 I've noticed you've deleted some of your comments, mind explaining why
Ok so I just watch charii5 video of this and he has the same opinion of the final boss
Cool! After this can you do Everything wrong with EWW Sonic Unleashed?
That's the next one.
Awesome!
Ok
Okay, the "You can skip the first two questions if you like" from Sonic forces got me
19:04 i know that Sonic Team said that everything is canon and apparently the encyclospeedia debunks it with ONLY this game but i can't be sure cause i don't have it in my land
Oh, how I remember seeing this game on UA-cam as a little innocent kid and being all like "Ohhh, cool Sonic RPG on DS, I GOTTA play it!" Then, I did, and found out the sad truth about it. I don't really hate it SO much though, I just wish it could've been much better, if it had a nice OST instead of really bad remixes of the best songs in the Sonic games, ruining them like that. And I wish they did more with the Chao Garden, making a playable area to take care of some cute little Chao's, like in the Adventure series. And though I like that you can use them as battle equipments and boosters, I just can't help but *HATE* how you can only level them up by trading only. Sure, you can rely on cheats instead, but where's the fun in that? The game is also *extremely* buggy and glitchy, I remember how sometimes when I saved, the game would freeze and I would have to restart it. Thank God it still saved my progress though, or SO HELP ME God. The same happened when entering a battle too, though not commonly. And while I'm mentioning battle, I absolutely *LOATHE* the combat system. The strategizing is hard, and literally everything about it, and the fact enemies' sounds are just generic cartoonish sound effects. And don't even get me started on the final boss. What should be an epic final battle, just felt like a regular fight, and that's downright underwhelming. I like the new OC Shade though. The only thing I like in this. (Sigh) I just wish they even tried with game. Sonic 06 Haters, this game is for you. 4/10. Wouldn't play it again.
9:32 More so, to add that sin, Sonic was just confused about how Eggman survived the crash of the Egg Carrier from the intro cutscene, he didn't actually asked like his mission was to kill him.
10:32 I was expecting a "Charriii points out things on the screen" cliche, but okay.
11:06 / 33:30 How is that "taking a shot at you"? The first one you can even see that he's just trying to let that one pass, given that there's been more worth typos to sin, but the second one, granted, he's kinda just indecisive, and in that case he should have just given that a no sin, which is the real sin here. Also, I don't want to sound rude with this, but given that your channel started after this video was released, I don't think there would be a community based on either those things; maybe the "trying to debunk his sins", but the typos are kinda viewed like legitimate sins to me IMO, because that's just total laziness and carelessness from the subtitle writers and something made for a public is not supposed to look like they're posting a text on a social media. Like, who even does that?
40:12 😂😂😂 LMAO EXACTLY
Good luck with this one. Chariii video on this was actually pretty good imo. And he even said that ix was the most pathetic final boss he has ever seen which I can tell you will agree with that
It's more pathetic than Super Dimentio
@@multifandomfangirl9664 more pathetic than any terrible final boss he's just as insulting as Lucien from fable 2.
@@davidthemusicman1046 yep I remember you made a video called “Lucian is the worst final boss I have ever faced” and you put him at number 1 of your worst final bosses
@@naaylealikhan8129 ya he Will be forever my most hated final boss of all time nothing can come close except star wars Battlefront 2 Remake final boss.
@@davidthemusicman1046 ya he is not even a battle.
9:37 Eggman dies in Sonic 06, and dies in shadow the hedgehog. It doesn’t matter if it wasn’t cannon those are still 2 games eggman dies in. And assuming when tails talks about Eggman’s recent defeat, it sounds like he could’ve died, therefore we can assume he’s dead, thus making it 3 games
I have very mixed feelings on Chronicles on the one hand I like Shade as a character and I love the many interactions the characters have with one another. Plus it was the first DS Sonic game I played. However it has many flaws its story is somewhat half baked, it's fights range from lackluster to laughable, the villian is extremely underwhelming both in character and in battle, and biggest flaw of all its extremely boring and forgettable.
My overall rating of this game is a generous 5/10.
Don't forget the Central City OST.
@@aidan_metallix72 🤮
Same here tbh
Me when something I don't about comes up: A room full of everyone who asked.
No one's there.
25:38 that giant creature is a spector beast a really rare breed of ultra beasts born to keep order
I legitimately forgot this game existed and even when Charriii5 covered it in an EWW, so I was confused on why you made a video on this. That is how bad this game is.
Sonic 06: *Nervously raises hand*
@@austria-hungary7680 in all honesty, I (as well as TonySonic) like this game. The hate was over-exaggerated. I see no reason to forget this game, especially cause this game was made in 2006.
At 33:59 this seems like a reference to American history when the French only joined sides with America when they saw how they against the British
Hey Tonysonic, great video as always... though I noticed you started to get angry with the final boss again when charriii sinned it... if I may ask... are you... feeling ok??
I’m fine. I was just… having flashbacks.
@@tonysonic456 oh.... I see...... well it'll be ok... you won't ever have to suffer through that game again right?
@@jakishamburger3349 Well…
I do have to listen through the OST for an upcoming video.
@@tonysonic456 is it at least decent?
@@jakishamburger3349 One of the songs is.
Honestly I wanna see a 2nd game just to see if it can be approved and to wrap up the cliff hanger…
HELL I’LL MAKE THE 2ND GAME!
(Edit: I find the Tails voice funny because it’s just that bad)
Same here. I even would like to remake the first game and do a massive overhaul in trying to improve all the faults (though that is a tall order since a lot is wrong with the game).
Man I would so help you make the game
When I saw that community post, I legit thought that your next video on Charriii was gonna be the Sonic Origins video. I guess not.
From what I know, the sin on the lack of an accent on Marta Lois González' name was on Sonic Origins, this game, and the DS version of Sonic Colours. Any other games?
I don't hate Sonic Chronicles, I think it had so much potiential.
Hey TonySonic i just finished Sonic 4 Episode 1 and about Metal Robotnik i didnt think it was that bad of a fight, it isnt nearly as good as Deathegg Robot and music isnt that good, but everithing else was tolerable. I died a few times on this boss before i unestood how the atacks worked i knew that this atacks arent bullshit hard to avoid, for exemple i was able to spindash under him nearly every single time he started hoping around, the launching hand gave me trouble because the timing is tricky but hiting the had back at him was no problem, i did it EVERY SINGLE TIME and ones you deli er the final blow it feels ever so satasfing, so yeah i think you just need to get good
The problem isn't the difficulty it's because it's annoying.
1. The music is terrible like you said
2. It's lazy as it's a knockoff of the Death Egg Robot from Sonic the Hedgehog 2.
3. It's actually easier than the OG version due to the Rings, and the massive hitbox which eliminates the tension and as such the payoff is less satisfying
As such he doesn't need to get good. He just hates the fight, although it's almost universally hated so yeah.
Is it wrong if I said that I liked the music from Sonic 4 Ep 1
I honestly don’t like Sonic Chronicles, the only thing I do like about Chronicles is Shade the Echidna, one of my favorite Sonic characters.
then the asshole that is Ken Penders happened.
tonysonic as a dragon age fan i found that dragon age reference in the credits a great easter egg
4:10 Heck, if you pick the write options you can make Sonic and Amy an official couple. Not joking, it’s really sweet.
A Room For Everyone Who Asked lol.
21:47 always make me laugh.
(16:10) Even though I dismissed this point in your Heroes video, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to shut this down again. Knuckles leaving the Master Emerald to help Sonic defeat Eggman is not a good excuse on why he left. At the time it just seem like a regular "Eggman is taking over the world and Sonic goes to stop him" scenario, No Perfect Chaos, or Biolizard to back him up. Sonic has handle that stuff by himself since GAME 1 with no company whatsoever. Also guarding what you call a "Gem", an extremely powerful gem is just as important as a world or even universal destruction since it can also be a threat if fell into the wrong hands.
(35:03) Wait why'd you sin that?
Yes, but Eggman is constantly building better and more dangerous machines to conquer the world. The Master Emerald is an incredibly powerful gem, but if the world is conquered, it'll be put in even more danger. So in a way, he is still protecting the Master Emerald when off the island.
@@tonysonic456 Ok you're mostly right about Sonic needing help to defeat Eggman. But again with Knuckles, he still needs to watch over the Master Emerald, if not have someone trustworthy at least watch it because like I said, The Master Emerald can also be a great threat if falling into the WRONG HANDS.
@@BJSolar02 True, but that's the decision Knuckles has to make. Stop a greater threat, or protect the Master Emerald. Besides, how do you think the Master Emerald could work into Heroes' plot?
@@tonysonic456 Well I do have 1 huge reason on how they could use the Master Emerald. While having all the Teams data (excluding Chaotix), Metal Sonic could've stolen the Master Emerald and used it's power, like it's shown in the IDW comics.
That would give Knuckles a good enough reason to actually leave the island and team up with Sonic and Tails.
0:58 to be fair, you said 06 was pretty enjoyable despite its flaws while Chronicles on the other hand was basura from beginning to end
16:55 and wasn't there mention of how currency doesn't exist in Sonic? 🤔
BTW, I think this video might've gotten the highest record for most sins removed. And I wonder why we never use the term "turn based strategy"? There are RPGs that don't use a turn based mechanic like The Witcher, Cyberpunk 2077 and Fallout.
Those are called action RPGs.
Although it isn't canon, i'm glad Shade does exist though
And i believe the squeal could've been an improvement if it wasn't cancelled.
I think they should just make a brand new sonic rpg and maybe it could spawn a series, also I see you continue to stop being toxic to charriii, if you're making an effort to, know I thank you for it and appreciate it
Same here
It's an alternative universe that part of the lore and Sonic's expanding universe from the Encyclospeedia.
43:23 Not gonna lie, I was expecting you to use Charriii's "And so humble about it" sin against him. But this works too.
Wrong timestamp. It's 42:06
@@KaveonMatthews I know. The timestamp I posted was where I was expecting it to be done.
Say about this game what you will, I love it and am very fond of it. It's been way to many hours of my childhood. Looking back I obviously recognize the poor quality of it(I still think it's a pretty decent rpg) but God this isy biggest guilty pleasure as a sonic fan
1:30 - 1:38 Me when I hear someone praising a modern comedy movie that contains political correctness.
16:54 *OH, HELL NO!!* You did NOT just diss my boy Jacksepticeye for the damn coffee everyone complains about! Seriously, what is wrong with selling merch you like?!
(Granted, he has said that he doesn’t like EVERY item on the merch store, but in his own words, it’s not just for him.)
39:34 - 40:04 Imagine it taking a shorter time to defeat the final boss than the first enemy.
too bad this game will never be officially improved or fixed but we can get another rpg sonic game eventually...
14:01 it did happened to me with Earthbound Zero because there's SO MANY random encounters
Here's a theory; Sonic Chronicles is a prequel to the Meta Era games. Real Sonic is locked in the cage and Eggman created Meta Era versions of the characters due to being lonely and Sonic Forces is just a propaganda video to make people hopeful but Eggman still ruled the planet till Real Sonic existed the cage.
I seriously hope you’re joking.
@@tonysonic456
Yes
Wait, we're not getting Sonic Chronicles sequel, let alone another Sonic RPG, because of Ken Penders? WHY!? And HOW!? He already f*cked up the Archie Comics, what did he do to THIS Genre? And didn't he think he already did enough damage to SEGA as a whole when he caused the reboot to happen, why de have to go and ruin this as well?
To make a long story short, Penders wanted to sue Sega for using the Nocturnus clan just because they looked vaguely similar to the Dark Legion from the Archie comics. Archie hit the reset button on the comics, erasing every single one of Penders’ OCs because he had tried to claim those characters as his own, and Sega abandoned the Chronicles storyline for fear of Penders making another attempt at suing them again.
@@tonysonic456 Oh, so that's why the lawsuit that kick-started the Super Genesis wave happened. Man, F*ck Ken Penders. Just because 2 characters, stories, concepts, etc. are vaguely similar, that doesn't mean that they're carbon copies. And now he's ruined the zaniest Sonic franchise to date and the Chronicles storyline was left unfinished everyone suffered because of it. At least he got his comeuppance too (At least, I hope so), as now all of his OCs are now completely erased, never to be used by anyone again.
I wanted to say something about the entire charriii5 harassment thing
Disclaimers are important, wierd things like "im correcting his mistakes" instead of "this is a series made for comedy", so I think people think charriii is actually seriously stupid about game facts
Awesome AND cool 👍✨
WE NEED SHADE BACK!
Shade is the only good part about Chronicles imo
If only Penders would allow it
I like how at 1:21 you use sonic to speak for you
24:15 Yeah, exactly: who? Never heard of them.
For the 3 times, charriii5 was implying the first time was rush second was adventure now here as have you seen what happened to the robots both eggman and eggman nega was piloting
Well, Eggman’s been caught in giant explosions plenty of times, and he’s never died yet.
There's a sin in particular that triggered me in the original video
@@DShy96 when he said Doomsday zone for the Big arms remix
1:36 I love it when u use these memes. Lol
You didn't sin the ambush mechanics being tied to your level, meaning if you get ambushed, you're underleveled, and if you ambush them, you're overleveled
That’s how it works!?
@TheDMan2003 when I did a new game plus playthrough I was at lev 48 and until angel island I got preemptive strikes on every battle even bosses I ambushed them
@@jerrytrout8343 You actually did the New Game+?
23:34
Even with context it's a very weird choice of wording, that's the sin here
Well, it's Eggman. He has some strange word choices from time to time.
@@tonysonic456 Yes, but to say something like that? It's a really weird thing to hear in a Sonic Game of all things and I'd say it's a noteworthy thing to point out. (banger video though, it's made clear that this is all for shits and giggles and not made out of malicious intent and i like that)
I mean, it would be actually funny if they actually DIDNT want to be credited for God of War and did for this…….game, like it actually was 100% their own decision and they decided for it for this of all games. But also, about the stairs thing, I actually do get it, since not only do the stairs look completely different from the ‘walkable surfaces’, they look just like normal roof tiling, as well as being slightly layered above the normal walkable surfaces, so I also would think that’s not a walkable surface, however, as an RPG player, I would walk into it still. Hey, y’never know when there’s a hidden passage or a hidden item anyway, c’mon, that’s just asking for an Excalibur placement or a hidden Elixir or something. And yeah, of course the final boss is nothingness, but I suppose it IS a Super Sonic boss fight, and the enemy isn’t some super powered robot or force of nature, but a literal Squishy Wizard, so it DOES make sense that he would attack fast and go down even faster. Of course it is still Chronicles, so that whole combat system isn’t helping, but yeah, it’s understandable that the final boss is as disappointing as it is, kinda works with the whole game itself though…..
6:43 Hoo boy, wait till this guy watches the _Harry Potter_ movies (or reads the books) - it'll totally blow his mind.
Then again, he'll prolly think _Harry Potter_ stole the concept of seeking out 7 important items from _Sonic,_ which would make as much sense as claiming _Inside Out_ ripped off _Osmosis Jones._
He is talking about lost world and 06 when he is talking about eggman being supposedly dead
06 was framed as a defeat, not Eggman dying even though he realistically would from that, and Lost World was intentionally framed as a fake out.
I mean Elise died on the fleet and by the cutscene when it’s about to crash it’s assumed that so did eggman, And charri did say “Supposedly have died” Even if it was a fake out in the end it doesn’t matter because at the time Sonic thought he was dead.
@@jeanlsmrio Well even then, Charriii worded it as if Eggman had died twice before in the series, and Lost World wouldn’t come out for another 5 years.
23:52.. Missed sin, This game was made by BioWare, the same group behind Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, what Charriii5 should've said was something to the effect from "Suddenly, HK-47 from Knights of the Old Republic" because HK-47 frequently uses the term "meatbags / organic meatbags" to refer to non-droids... it would be a pop culture reference / reference from another game as a sin; but the devs thought they could sneak this one into OMEGA's dialogue
37:33 i correct him in a comment also in his Sonic Origins stream i did let him pointing out this mistake and he said "oh yeah my bad" cause he did it a second time
Played this game and damn. Despite me liking the story for the most part and the attention to lore on the Echidnas and Gizoids, the gameplay was terrible and boring. For an RPG, Sonic Chronicles is an example of how not to do an RPG. It so could've been something like Final Fantasy or Paper Mario.
And there was a missed opportunity in having Gmerl in the game. Like seriously, he could've been in the game with Cream trying to help her find Cheese and clearly, him being in the story could've been interesting for characters like Shade and Ix to bring up, like maybe Ix saying something like Gmerl is interesting but hasn't properly reached the potential of the "one" he was based on, obviously referencing Emerl (up until IDW, SEGA basically forgot him despite being a potential powerful robot ally like Omega. I don't count Archie because he basically was just Shard).
9:44 He’s referring to 06, and Shadow the hedgehog (edit) Tony.
First of all, that's only two, and he's saying this would be the third time. Second, do you know how many times Eggman has been in his machines when they've exploded? He's been fine so many times before. Falling from that height shouldn't be any different. Plus, 06 didn't treat as his death. Just another defeat.
@@tonysonic456 I wasn’t expecting a response, but whenever Eggman’s mechs blow up, he usually bails. In 06, (Kingdom Valley) Eggman didn’t look like he had a backup plan once his Battleship randomly “malfunctions” so I would assume he dies along with Elise (before sonic changed the timeline). And also, I didn’t need to point out the Shadow the hedgehog endings bc Charii already said that. They aren’t cannon but still.
@@brooketurner8648 Non-canon endings don't count. Also, survived his robot crashing into the ocean from space with him in it in Sonic 3&K. He can survive that. If he couldn't, they would acknowledge it to some degree.
@@tonysonic456 You have a point about the non-cannon Endings. But I was talking about Charii’s assumption (either way he survived). He did survive in 3&K. But like I said: “Eggman usually bails before the explosion.”. To wrap this up: Charii assumed that the third “death” was Chronicles. And the 2 games I can think of are the deaths in Shadow and 06. Idk if you’re aware of a channel correcting you as well. Keep up the good work.
Also Charriii5 forgot the just in the subtitles
40:08 Eh... personally, I'd say Dr. Cortex in... basically any _Crash Bandicoot_ game I've played is more deserving of that title, but to each their own.
Which Crash games have you played? Cause I think Cortex puts up a decent fight in Warped and It’s About Time.
@@tonysonic456 For me personally, I’ve only played the original trilogy on PS1. Admittedly, Cortex isn’t a bad boss *per se* in those games, but he’s disappointingly easy after the penultimate boss being so difficult to beat that it’s actually satisfying to beat him (N. Brio in the first game, and N. Gin in the following two).
Have you got around playing paper mario stickers star yet
No.
Off topic but i love the new voice of sonic for sonic prime series, it's like a mix of Craig smith and jason griffith
same
Are you making a 4th EWW in a row? Just curious.
Yes I am. Normally, the rule is three then something new, but Charriii actually went and covered Sonic 3&K.
Didn't you cover that video
Hey tony would you rather be force to replay sonic chronicle or watch ever scenes with Chris
I would rather watch every scene with Chris.
Me too I know I say did 100 before but at least Chris is not like caillou
suprise, furry friends, rubbing off
4:09 TonySonic is a furry confirmed.
Don't worry, I'm not serious.
Is it bad that I actually like _Sonic Chronicles?_
No
Hey, to each their fun. Personally, if you like the game, then you like the game. Simple as that. Ngl, it's always nice to get an opinion that's different from the norm. A lot of people I've heard of hate this game, so it's nice to know that people find the game enjoyable.
@@earlrice8095 Makes sense, the story in this game is an after thought, Chronicles i
@@earlrice8095 Chronicles is a prime example of a boring well written story
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3 pieces of fiction, all of which were awful.
Makes me question what were those animators smoking to make something so bad.
The story is uninteresting? What about the fact that we actually get to see a group of people that Pachacamac fought during his tribe's life-span?
P.S., I know it's your opinion, but still. What about that?
Good job
Idk if Battle is canon or not so I don’t think Sin 47 counts
Battle is canon because Gemerl from Advance 3 is an upgraded version of Emerl.
Very nice in my opinion I hate this game so much I do not like the final boss I do not like the levels, I do not love the music, and I don't like the bosses
1:29 also I thought you said that comedy was subjective?
It is, and it's fine if you like the Tails voice. The first two questions were meant as a joke which I thought would be obvious given the Forces clip I used. I can respect an opinion if you have good reason behind it.
@@tonysonic456
It's just funny to me that a grown man could make that voice.
@@ultragaymer2437 I guess so. It’s still earrape to me.
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Me to people who like the new Mario movie's casting choices.
Hey, I thought Jack black as Bowser is a great choice.
@@Jamfrog35 I was mainly talking about Mario and Luigi.
@@DKCGaming339 Ok Chris I can understand, but Charlie Day is a great choice for Luigi.
@@Jamfrog35 I guess, but I still would have preferred if Charles Martinet voiced Mario and Luigi.
@@DKCGaming339 fair...I mean why use celebrities when you got the og right in front of you.