My ancestor was the chaplain of the 8th Virginia under Garnett during the assault on the “Angle”. The “Bloody 8th” suffered 90% casualties during the charge. Hearing this account of the 19th VA which marched with the 8th was an amazing step into the shoes of my ancestors.
My great great grandfather was Captain of the 18th Virginia under Garnett during Picketts charge. THey suffered 80% casualties in the 18th during that charge. He was shot clear through the jaw which i believe was a result of his flanking position, otherwise the bullet would have gone through his throat. Originally thought to be deceased, he was left in the field by his retreating Division. After the battle, a union soldier saw him gasping for air, and placed a large stone under his head so that he wouldn't choke on his own blood. As a result of that, he survived, and was a POW for 1 year and eventually exchanged in 1864. Had that union soldier not saved my ancestor's life, none of my family would exist. It's a beautiful story and demonstrates the brother vs. brother mentality of this war perfectly.
Really appreciate the telling of these stories using the actual words of those that were there. It makes the moment in which they fought so much more real and heartbreaking.
Thank you so much for the kind words. That is my intention. I want people to hear it from those men. Documentaries are great but I do not think they beat hearing it from the men and women who lived it. Thank you so much for watching and supporting the channel. I will continue to put out more of this kind of content.
I've read so many accounts, seen reenactments, and yet I still find myself in awe of these men every time I think of this charge. The senseless waste of life, and the courage it must have taken... Thank you for this poignant perspective.❤😁
Another excellent video. Having been to Gettysburg & stood on that ground this one truly tugs my heartstrings. I had no paranormal experience at Gettysburg but certainly felt an overwhelming sense of sorrow & tragedy. What a terrible waste of valiant brave men. I hope they all rest in peace. Thanks for another great video on a particularly favorite subject of mine.
This account was the best I have heard. The writer was eloquent and descriptive. I feel as though I can actually see the actions he described. Thank you for sharing.
Awesome, my great ×3 grandfather on my mother's side fought for and was wounded at Anteitum with the 27th North Carolina, I aquired some of his personall belongings when my dear mother passed in 2015, ive been facinated, almost obsessed with the civil war all my life.
The shear determination and utter bravery exemplified by these southern men after already receiving so many casualties before even reaching the stone wall is a testament to their conviction. However, Gettysburg was the second battle in a row in which the ANV lost excellent senior leadership. At this point, most could not be replaced by men of equal skill. I'm not sure, but maybe you know (HHWT) was this major immediately promoted to Brig. general? It would not surprise me.
@@davidrasch3082 I know, where do you think I got it from. But thank you, it's a pleasure to know at least some people on these sites know for the most part what they are talking about!
I have often wondered how men can advance on the enemy in such attacks while seeing those around you being wounded and killed knowing they could be next.
Big Blue It’s easy if you know you’re a traitor and will be hung if you fail. Good patriots waiting for them at the top of the hill, along with God, who was obviously on the Union side.
I'm sorry you don't get more views..your content is so unique. I love hearing the thoughts and conversations of historical figures. I never skip ads on your videos
The major's account is very clear and detailed and corresponds closely with previous reports I have read. Too many casualties were sustained prior to breaching the stone wall for the Confederates to hold the position. I have never fully accepted Longstreet's plan of attack to have oblique maneuvers performed under fire, which did not fool the enemy and led to mass destruction of the attackers. I would have maintained a line formation throughout, concentrating my force AFTER breaching the wall. Easy enough to say of course when second guessing.
And to see these brave soldiers vilified today by ignorant people is the second injustice brought upon these brave souls. The first being asked to do the charge
I don't vilify the soliders. Just the cause. The accounts our host has been giving are moving to the point of near tears. God bless all the fallen. Then and now.
Mr Ballard, As seen by my previous comment, I never vilify the common CSA soldiers doing, not just what they're ordered to do, but with all their resolve. I vilify "The Cause"(the right to perpetuate the institution of slavery) and the actual men behind it (slave owners), who knew better! And today; the revisionists, white supremacists, bigots, and racists who continue to use these sites to push their own twisted agendas!
Lowell Dever Not necessarily, although that’s the popular answer. No doubt of the bravery. It wasn’t just about slavery though. Most southerners didn’t even own a slave .Slavery was on its way out anyway. Hotheads on both sides caused the war. If they would have just waited it would have died of natural cause, without 600,000 deaths. Now we have a centralized federal gov. That was not the intention of the founding fathers.
From his viewpoint and because of the chaos of battle, it may have looked like they did not support the left. We do know that the North Carolinians made it to the stonewall and beyond a little ways. However, Brockenbrough's Virginians melted away before reaching the Union line.
Every year on July 3, a ceremony at the Gettysburg Battle Field is held honoring all who died that fateful day. A part of the ceremony is held at the position that is concidered to be where picketts men reached the Union line. 3 batteries of Union artillery were overrun at this point but the southern line was so badly damaged union troops rushed in retaking the position(as a footnote.. The union men who stood at this point, seeing the devastation in front of them slowed their volly rounds, with most asking or trying to convincing the southern troops to surrender. A local story sad but true is. The Confederate flag bearer badly wounded and dying, struggling to advance. Using the flag pole to hold himself up was watched by the union troops in front of him. Not one soldier fired at him but allowed him to complete his mission of planting his units colors. The colors were quickly taken down and the wounded soldier was carried off the line who died soon after.
Through my sister's ancestral investigation and admission to the DAR I've come to understand that not only is Patrick Henry my direct ancestor(sixth grandfather on my mother's side) but General Lee who commanded this battle is as well by Henry's mother and kin.I've spent only one day at Gettysburg so far and went specifically to investigate the desperate battle for Little Roundtop.However Pickett's Charge ended up moving me to tears as I first took it in then walked it all the way to "The Angle" where there was notice that the wall had been breeched by(Armbrister?)I cannot rightly describe to you the emotions that flooded my mind as I considered the totality of what occurred in those environs over three days that shook the earth.I will return there.
Dick Garnet was accused of cowardice by Jackson earlier and this was the battle that would have restored his honor.Its in the book "Killer Angel's" not sure if it's TRUE or not but I consider Richard Brook Garnets honor Restored.👍
Model Man I also read ,"Killer Angels" and it appeared that Dick Garnet was terribly troubled that he had been labeled a coward and after that was always the first to volunteer to be involved in combat. It was highly unlikely he would be able to survive this charge for two major reasons. One being his division was the first to attack and secondly he was on horseback thus an easier target. He had been kicked by a horse and could not walk that distance thus this was the reason he was up on his horse and not marching with his men.
@@elviscobb5922 I have a first Edition signed by the author.I Civil War reenacted for almost 25 years.I was at a reenactment when I heard he passed from old injuries from a Bad motorcycle accident years earlier.Kinda ruined my day to hear of Michael's death.
I don't think people understand the impact of casualties in battle. As an active duty military personnel, i can't comprehend the impact of loss of men nor the sadness/reservation of having to generate a letter to higher head quarters describing the carnage. Their is a level of burden and responsibility of having to deliver this message. God be near those who have to deliver this kind of message.
Hi. Very nicely done, as usual. I think one reason for the interest in Pickett's Charge is: 1. Hopelessness of such an attack (and the almost unforgivable decision to make it) 2. The courage of those who made the charge, probably knowing it would fail. Regardless, keep up the great work. God Bless...
Ken Brenner Your first point is interesting. From what I have been able to learn about this charge is that both Lee and Pickett believed that the Union Line was weakest at the Center and would break. There were others such as Corp General Longstreet that knew it was impossible but General Lee and General Pickett felt this charge would be successful. So very sad.
I have been an apprentice civil war historian for more than 30 years,which is to say I am a novice!I have always wondered where General Garnetts remains are,still on the field at Gettysburg or in among the unknown in Hollywood cemetery in Richmond?
Old corps marine and Ken ehlear Garnett was on horseback later his horse was seen riderless and bloodsplattered in the time-life book Gettysburg: the Confederate high tide they wrote that Garnett's sword was found years later in a Baltimore, Maryland pawn shop
I could be wrong about this, but if 19th VA Major Charles "Paton" was spelled "Patton", then that would likely be the grandfather or great uncle (I can't recall exactly) of General George Patton. In any case, he did have an ancestor who was in the charge and survived.
My research shows no Charles in George's line. There was a John Patton who served under "Stonewall" and George S. Patton (I assume his grandfather) who was a CSA Colonel. (died when hit by a solid shot cannonball!
General Patton ( ww2 fame) wrote that when he was a child living in California John Singleton Mosby use to visit the Patton family regularly. Mosby was good friends with George Patton's grandfather who was killed at 3rd Winchester...
Great work as usual. The debate will go on forever I guess, and I have no idea what could have been a better option in the long run than that charge, but surely anything would have been. Who knows what Lee was thinking that day.
his blood was up according to Longstreet. From what ive read about Lee he thought strategically as his pay grade should. it don't make sense strategic nor tactical, but I don't get it either. which I think means, I don't know all he did...on that day.
Pablo668 My understand is that General Longstreet had asked Lee to redeploy and fight the Union on Ground of their ( Souths) choosing. Lee's response was basically, The Army is here, We have fought here and have been successful here. To move the Southern Army from this place would be admitting defeat and NO he was not going to do that. Lee really believed that the Union Line would break in the center and if that happened the South would have been victorious. Lee was also having serious health issues involving his Heart and knew that some sort of major victory needed to be won or the war would continue to go on and on and on, which is what he said to General Longstreet. This information is from the Book, Killer Angels. This was the Book used by Ken Burns to develop the movie, GETTYSBURG.
I have read that Picketts charge still holds the record to this day for the most number of casualties in the shortest time, less than half an hour, ever experienced by Americans anywhere. Although, of course, Cold Harbour exceeds the total number of casualties in one assault overall, accumulated over a longer period and multiple charges.
After the war, when a reporter asked Pickett what was the main reason the Confederates lost at Gettysburg, Picket replied _"I've always believed the Yankees had something to do with it."_
I like to cite that when I hear someone say "The Confederates would have won the battle if only this guy did that or this brigade went there". Some people have the idea that the Union army was just sitting around waiting for the rebels to beat them and all the Confederates had to do was make the right moves.
you maybe don't have to know that 941 casualties in this brigade were probably over the 35% or so beyond which an infantry unit ceases to be effective. All you need to know is that a major is now a brigadier. which says by George those officers led from the front, not the rear. these brigade COs weren't new. they took one look at the ground and knew. and went anyway.
That's why I wanted to read this account. A major leading a Brigade displays the destruction. Thank you so much for watching and supporting the channel.
@@michaelbarnett2527 James L. (Lawson) Kemper : Confederate General was severely wounded during Pickett's charge. James L. Kemper practiced law after the war , was elected the 37th Governor of Virginia. In office from January 1, 1874 to January 1, 1878. Born June 11, 1823 Died April 7, 1895 (age 71).
Longstreet tried to convince Lee that the attack would fail, but not even General Longstreet would say, "Marse Robert, I ain't going." So, the attack commenced. Huge "What If"........What If Lee redeployed like Longstreet had suggested....to the South and East.....get between the Army of the Potomac and Washington.....find good defensive ground.?
@Jake Roberts I read lee knew all this and did it to shorten the war. he was commandant of west point and was no lightweight strategically..I wish we knew...
@Jake Roberts I saw a Yale vid historians measuring an arbitrary thing of 'misery.' Took census reports of one county in PA of widows and orphans 63-65.
Lee should learn not attack on 3 day lee should listen to longstreet he could just have his guns out in open then make infantry retreat then wait for darkness have the guns be the last to retire from the field
Thanks for the fine documentary. I can't help but wonder if America might have been better off if General Lee and the southerners had won the battle, Lincoln been deposed and the nation separated for a while. Political government is the bane of humanity.
we are good order driving the enemy Getting our arses handed to us but never get let the truth get in the way of a good battle report/lie coughbullshit.
In part yes, but the Southern Army at this point was still quite strong and fought on for 2 long years after this. The South began to realize that they might be in trouble after they lost Vicksburg.
@@jrjohnryanjr It's interesting that Corp. Commander General Longstreet who spoke with General Lee later that evening recorded their conversation. General Lee told Longstreet several things but he also stated, "The Moral of the Army is still good and they will continue to fight with or without us .If they fight I will fight with them " Both Lee and Longstreet realized the Confederate Army was not ready to go home so they stayed with them. It wasn't until after they were informed about Vicksburg that they were restructuring what they were going to do. Remember that it took the Confederates ten days to safety get their army out of Pennsylvania and back into what they concerned safe territory. General Longstreet was an excellent Writer and spent many hours recording in great detail what occurred before and after all engagements with the Union.
Elvis Cobb are you also aware that a Northern newspapers called Lee’s invasion into Maryland and Pennsylvania The Great Slave Raid? His army captured over 1000 blacks marched them south and sold them
@@jrjohnryanjr Actually, No , I had not heard that before. I read, many historical writings about Gettysburg but do not recall reading that. I would understand the Confederate Army not wanting to record that information so that it would become common knowledge if it were true. Maybe I will look into that? There is always so much to learn about what happened there.
[Jehovah God gave us free will, freedom to choose, and no man or group should interfere with God’s gifts to us. Political government is the bane of humanity; it is predicated on politicians using force/violence to impose their manmade and Satan infected constitutions and “laws,” supplanting God’s perfect law, well IMHO of course. Before assuming the validity of the manmade constitution and law, one would be wise to ask and demand answers to the Marc Stevens/Lysander Spooner Question: “What factual evidence do you, judge, prosecutor, politician, IRS agent, policeman or anyone, have that the manmade constitution and “law” apply to me just because I am physically present in some state? I’ve tested judges, prosecutors and police et.al. and not one had that “factual evidence.” Factual evidence would at least initially come in the form of a sworn affidavit of truth stating what, when, where, why, how and by whom I or anyone was made subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Remember that citizenship is voluntary and stems from the constitution and is thus not proof, i.e. this would invoke circular logic fallacy. I just today, 12-3-2019, came across the following publications though I doubt I shall ever get to reading them. Lincoln Unmasked and The Real Lincoln - JW] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Volume One in the American Civil War Trilogy The Coming Fury by Bruce Catton Page 260 Gen. Winfield Scott told Sec. of State Seward the new government could do one of 4 things: 1. It could adopt the Crittenden peace plan* and wait for the dissident states to return to the Union; 2. It could blockade the ports of the Southern states, collecting import duties outside the harbors and in general waiting for a break; 3. It could raise huge armies and beat the Confederacy into submission, winning as last “15 devastated provinces” that would have to be garrisoned for generations at immense cost…or 4. It could simply give up and say to the seceded states “Wayward Sisters, depart in peace.” Choices 1, 2 and 4 did not involve the slaughter of nearly 1 million men, women and children and the wounding and maiming of perhaps another 1 million. Any of these were better than the 3rd option. By far the last choice, #4, was the best and would have paved the way for reconciliation later. Lincoln was not a “great” president, just as Wilson and FDR were not “great” presidents. Interestingly, Lincoln denied the very first paragraph of the Declaration of Independence to wit: “When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.” Lincoln refused to concede that the colonists, who just 85 years previous, i.e. 1776, had seceded from England and that they certainly would never have put their necks under the heel of a dictatorial central government the likes of which they had just dismissed. This is a truth that is not taught in government schools or admitted by the media or by well known writers. It would have been anathema to the very foundation of liberty and the revolution to have condemned future generations to abide by their beliefs as they then would have imposed slavery. How utterly duplicitous would that have been? *Crittenden Peace Plan thecivilwarandnorthwestwisconsin.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/1861-april-3-the-crittenden-compromise/ 1861 April 3: The Crittenden Compromise • April 4, 2011 • tags: American Civil War, Crittenden Compromise, Hudson North Star, John J. Crittenden, Peace Convention, Pennsylvania • • John J. Crittenden, 1859, from "McClees' Gallery of Photographic Portraits of the Senators, Representatives & Delegates of the Thirty-fifth Congress," in the Library of Congress • Although the Crittenden Compromise has by April been long dead, it comes up again in the April 3, 1861, issue of The Hudson North Star in an article about the Democratic state convention in Pennsylvania. • When James Buchanan was still president, he recommended to Congress that it develop a compromise to keep the Union together. The Senate and the House each appointed committees to work on compromise measures. The Senate committee concentrated on a plan by Kentucky Senator John J. Crittenden, usually called the Crittenden Plan or the Crittenden Compromise. It called for a series of six constitutional amendments that would, among other things, guarantee slavery, satisfy Southern demands on fugitive slaves, and re-establish the Missouri Compromise line. The plan was introduced in Congress on December 18, and tabled on the 31st. • It was discussed again in February at the Peace Convention and the Convention’s plan closely followed the Crittenden scheme. The Convention’s plan was also submitted to the Senate, but it received almost no support. • Pennsylvania in Council • The Democracy of Pennsylvania had a very large, spirited and harmonious Convention at Harrisburgh [sic] on the 22nd inst.1 The resolutions were unanimously adopted. Among others we find the following: • Resolved. That the resolutions offered in the United States Senate by the patriotic Senator from Kentucky, and known as the Crittenden plan of compromise, present a satisfactory basis for the adjustment of our difficulties. The measures therein specified are wise, just and honorable-calculated to end the present deplorable agitation, and prevent forever its recurrence. We commend this plan or something similar to patriots-men of business-working men-political parties-to the people everywhere: and we call upon all who love their whole country and desire to preserve it, to rally to such plan of compromise and carry it through. • Resolved. That we will, by all proper and legitimate means, oppose, discountenance and prevent any attempt, on the part of the Republicans in power, to make any armed aggression upon the Southern States, especially so long as laws convening their rights shall remain unrepealed on the statute books of Northern States, and so long as the just demands of the South shall continue unrecognized by the Republican majorities in those States, and unsecured by proper amendatory explanations of the Constitution. • 1. “Inst.” is the abbreviation for the Latin instante mense, meaning “this month,” which in this case would actually have been March when the convention was held and the resolutions passed, not April when this article was published. The abbreviation for next month is “prox.” and last month is “ult.” Also see the ratification documents for each state and how the right to depart in peace was mentioned: www.usconstitution.net/otherdocs.html A lot of people would have lived and contributed to the quality of life forever more in the absence of Lincoln, Wilson and FDR.
Incorrect. If you studied Jacksons tactics, he absolutely would not have taken the hill. He would have told Lee that there was absolutely no reason to attack that day. They would have shifted and moved to high ground and then let the union attack them. Stonewall knew the power of defensive engagements and at the time and place, it was the union who needed to push the Confederacy out, not the other way around. Stonewall would have outmanoeuvred the union as he always had and forced the union to attack a well fortified position. Then he would have counter charged and won the largest battle of the war. The union, broken and shattered would have sued for peace. Lee fucked up by ordering pickets charge. To be honest, there was no need for the south to even charge or attack there. They had the union right where they wanted them, and Lee simply wanted it all ended on that day. Jackson was more patient.
@@jackshyt4 And what qualifies you to make this assessment? Almost every point you make is false. Lee(in overall command,not Jackson) ordered Ewell to take the hill the first day. Saying" if practicable" was the way Lee gave orders, politely. He was furious with Ewell for not doing it! He even stated later on after the war, "if Jackson was there I wouldn't have had to order it". All this is just your opinion. In mine and almost any other person with combat command experience, most military historians, and the opinions of the generals on the field that day, if Culp's Hill had been taken it would have made the other Union positions untenable , forcing them to fall back further; relinquishing the high ground to Confederates. Also, what other high ground would they have shifted to? I'm sorry but it almost seems to me your just purposely trying to be contradictory?
@@USGrant-rr2by boy, if anyone is trying to be contradictory it's you. Desperate for attention much? Obviously Jackson couldn't be in command since he was dead dumbass. The point I'm making is that Jackson wouldn't have taken the hill. Not out of disregard for Jackson, but rather as to that's literally not how Jackson fought. Ever read about his campaign in shenandoah? For an internet tough guy claiming to be a combat veteran, you would think they would have taught you history. Jackson consistently won with less numbers by movement and division of his forces. And what qualifies you to make that assessment? Literally nothing. Run along now tough guy.
@@jackshyt4 Major Douchbag, Have you ever read ANY of the many biographies of R.E. Lee. All of them state catagoricaly, (according to Lee's own staff) that he ordered Ewell to take Culp's Hill early on day one. And, was extremely upset when he didn't. Here is a quote from "Clouds of Glory- the life and legend of R.E. Lee" by M. Korda, a renowned historian, noted for his accuracy. "Ewell was being uncommunicative and had seized on the polite escape clause in Lee's order to avoid doing what Lee ordered. Lee regretted at that moment the absence of Stonewall Jackson, who, most likely would have already taken Culp's Hill without Lee ordering him to do it" from Col. Walter Taylor's(the man who delivered the order) personal memoirs! What qualifies me "Major Douchbag" is my Masters in Military History and the fact that these aren't just my opinions, they are the opinions of Lee's own staff members, his other generals and virtually every credible civil war historian. Oh, and by the way, I am a tough guy. I'm not running anywhere, except to get out of the way when you empty your BAG!
No attacks should have been made on day 2 as Pickett's division was not on the battlefield yet as it was at the rear of the long Confederate line as it entered Pennsylvannia. So, actually, the Confederates were much more outnumbered on day 2 than is normally reported as the Union army was totally in place by then. It is funny how the estimated number of Union troops at the battle drops about 10,000 every 10 years. Originally, they were said to be 120,000 strong. Whatever is true, they had much more of a numerical advantage on day 2 than is reported due to Pickett not being on the field yet. Had the exact attack plan been made on day 3 that was made on day 2, after taking day 2 to just get into position, then, with Pickett's division participating as well, the Union army would have been utterly destroyed.
I'm just going to guess you've never really studied the battle from a military strategy point of view. The Union had basically the Entire VI Corps(18,000) in reserve, and really only half the V corps was engaged(another 8-10,000 troops in reserve) By the third day, the Union would have been so entrenched, if Lee waited to attack then, it would have been a worse cummlative beating than was actually suffered in Pickett's charge! Lee would NEVER have done that. You never give your opponent more time to entrench, even if it means attacking(if that's your plan) without your entire army present!!! Actual widely accepted strengths of each complete army: Union 85-90,000, Confedr.: 70-75,000.
@@USGrant-rr2by I have studied this more than you ever will. The attacks on day 2 did not launch until very late in the day. There was little effort to "entrench" for the most part. Maybe you are under the assumption the union boys built that stone wall. No. It was already there. As was the fences. On the 2nd day each attack launched made a lot of headway and each needed a few thousand more in their ranks to achieve the breakthrough in force. Pickett's divison sent to support Barksdale, to support Hood, to support any of the separate attacks would have resulted in the total and complete destruction of the Union army. That would have been the 8,000-9,000 more needed at each spot. So far as the Union reserves, perhaps you are not familiar with the Union position. There could really not be any Union "reserves" so to speak. The Union position was such that the so called "reserves" could have been very quickly put into action anywhere on the line of battle. And your estimation of the total Union forces is exactly the number that it has mysteriously dropped down to as the years go by. 10 years from now it will be estimated at 75,000...guaranteed.
@@idontcare1762 So, apparently my Masters in military history is worthless. In your previous statement, you recommended Lee wait until his whole army was present(the third day) before launching the attacks he ordered on the second day. The entire VI corps was available on the third day. The union army certainly would have entrenched little round top, and probably big round top if Lee chose not to attack the second day. As Warren immediately recognized their importance on the second day. It was Meade's plan to make Lee attack his positions, since for once, the Union held the high ground. And Lee did, on the second day, as any seasoned combat general would tell you, was the proper military strategy. I will say, that if the attacks would have been more coordinated, and happened earlier in the day, as Lee ordered, they may have succeeded. You completely contradict yourself when you say "the so called reserves" could have been very quickly put into action anywhere. That is the very definition of "reserves"! As for numbers in the AOP. Did you know that Meade had dispatched an entire division(4000) to New York City on the third day to put down the draft riots? Also, there is a big difference between total number present versus total actually committed to combat. The CSA had a vastly higher % of the army committed to combat then the AOP! The AOP had an entire infantry brigade and entire cavalry brigade committed to the wagon train. Almost a division! The ANV had only a couple hundred(1 regiment) guarding it's train. I said 85-90 thousand, OK lets make it 95,000, it doesn't matter, because Meade had no intention of attacking Lee. In my opinion, the two reasons the ANV lost Gettysburg, is because Lee did not have Jackson to independently make the right combat decisions on the first day, and for Meade to hold his ground on the second day instead of cutting and running as Hooker did at Chancellorsville.
@@USGrant-rr2by A degree in history from a liberal university where the professors are all further to the left than Ted Kennedy and are Sanders supporters today is worthless. You insinuated that the "reserves" were like off about 20 miles away eating ice cream. You know you did. You say, "held the high ground..for once". At Fredricksburg the south held the high ground....and were outnumbered 3:1. At what other battle did the south hold the high ground???? Again, the attack on Little Round Top happened very late on the afternoon on day 2. The "entrenching" was complete by the time the attack took place. The top was very nearly taken anyway. You can spin this all you want to. However, the facts are the facts. Including the fact that the AOP had in excess of 100,000 soldiers on hand while Lee had at most 70,000 with approximately 8,000 not reaching the field until after dark on day 2. Not to mention Stuart not reaching the site until after dark on day 2 as well. At Gettysburg Pickett's charge was made against a force that far outnumbered its own and still yet, the wall was breached. At Fredericksburg the Union charge was made against a force it greatly outnumbered and yet not one Union boy made it to the wall. Always remember that son. Make it the last thing you think about before you fall asleep each night.
You failed history didn't you. Four northern states still had slavery through the war. The emancipation proclamation only freed the slaves in the south. You can't tell me that the four northern states were fighting to end slavery while practicing slavery themselves....
@Old Corps Marine General Garnett was riding because he had been kicked by his horse and was unable to walk the distant required to get to the wall. This information is from the Book, Killer Angels used by Ken Burns to develop the movie GETTYSBURG. I also had read this information recorded by General Longstreet his commanding general in his book.
My ancestor was the chaplain of the 8th Virginia under Garnett during the assault on the “Angle”. The “Bloody 8th” suffered 90% casualties during the charge. Hearing this account of the 19th VA which marched with the 8th was an amazing step into the shoes of my ancestors.
I am so happy that I could make that possible. Thank you for watching and please consider watching my other videos.
My great great grandfather was Captain of the 18th Virginia under Garnett during Picketts charge. THey suffered 80% casualties in the 18th during that charge. He was shot clear through the jaw which i believe was a result of his flanking position, otherwise the bullet would have gone through his throat. Originally thought to be deceased, he was left in the field by his retreating Division. After the battle, a union soldier saw him gasping for air, and placed a large stone under his head so that he wouldn't choke on his own blood. As a result of that, he survived, and was a POW for 1 year and eventually exchanged in 1864. Had that union soldier not saved my ancestor's life, none of my family would exist. It's a beautiful story and demonstrates the brother vs. brother mentality of this war perfectly.
Really appreciate the telling of these stories using the actual words of those that were there. It makes the moment in which they fought so much more real and heartbreaking.
Thank you so much for the kind words. That is my intention. I want people to hear it from those men. Documentaries are great but I do not think they beat hearing it from the men and women who lived it. Thank you so much for watching and supporting the channel. I will continue to put out more of this kind of content.
I've read so many accounts, seen reenactments, and yet I still find myself in awe of these men every time I think of this charge. The senseless waste of life, and the courage it must have taken... Thank you for this poignant perspective.❤😁
Sorry about the stupid smiling emoji face...I guess I accidentally hit it!
@@janupczak5059Probably take more courage to protest against such a foolishness.
Artillery was just devastating to men in closed formation.
Yet another excellent video sir. Having been to Gettysburg several times, I can almost imagine Pickett's charge while listening to this.
Your reading of these accounts is terrific, they really bring the battles to life. Thank you, be well.
Another excellent video. Having been to Gettysburg & stood on that ground this one truly tugs my heartstrings. I had no paranormal experience at Gettysburg but certainly felt an overwhelming sense of sorrow & tragedy. What a terrible waste of valiant brave men. I hope they all rest in peace. Thanks for another great video on a particularly favorite subject of mine.
This account was the best I have heard. The writer was eloquent and descriptive. I feel as though I can actually see the actions he described. Thank you for sharing.
I've walked that mile in 1976,80,81 and 88,then 91,94,and 2000 at reenactments.it never fails to draw a tear.
My dad had an ancestor in Garnetts brigade he was a drummer and survived the attack.
Awesome, my great ×3 grandfather on my mother's side fought for and was wounded at Anteitum with the 27th North Carolina, I aquired some of his personall belongings when my dear mother passed in 2015, ive been facinated, almost obsessed with the civil war all my life.
Thank you so much for honoring those brave men with this posting.
I could almost see myself there with how well it was described and read. Well done good sir, well done.
The shear determination and utter bravery exemplified by these southern men after already receiving so many casualties before even reaching the stone wall is a testament to their conviction. However, Gettysburg was the second battle in a row in which the ANV lost excellent senior leadership. At this point, most could not be replaced by men of equal skill. I'm not sure, but maybe you know (HHWT) was this major immediately promoted to Brig. general? It would not surprise me.
Douglas Southall Freeman's description of this dilemma in 'Lee's Lieutenants' is worth rereading.
@@davidrasch3082 I know, where do you think I got it from. But thank you, it's a pleasure to know at least some people on these sites know for the most part what they are talking about!
david u.s. grant will soon be calling them traitors and racists.
@@USGrant-rr2by i will call them trader's. . . . . State rights bull shit.
@@michaelbattista5293 And I certainly won't condemn you.
My 3rd great grandfather was in the 56th VA Infantry under Garnett during the charge
These are great videos. Well researched and presented. Absolutely perfect voice for the subject.
Thanks for your reporting on this part of the battle of Gettysburg!
I have often wondered how men can advance on the enemy in such attacks while seeing those around you being wounded and killed knowing they could be next.
Big Blue bravery:
Big Blue It’s easy if you know you’re a traitor and will be hung if you fail. Good patriots waiting for them at the top of the hill, along with God, who was obviously on the Union side.
@@rubyait all were brave patriots none were traitors and all are with God in his beautiful kingdom
thomas" knight" ,,is not very "bright"
@@rubyait might does not make right mr. knight
I'm sorry you don't get more views..your content is so unique. I love hearing the thoughts and conversations of historical figures. I never skip ads on your videos
Thank you for another informative video.
Thanks have been to Gettysburg many time and l have always learned something new. Great insight into the battle thanks again.
The major's account is very clear and detailed and corresponds closely with previous reports I have read. Too many casualties were sustained prior to breaching the stone wall for the Confederates to hold the position. I have never fully accepted Longstreet's plan of attack to have oblique maneuvers performed under fire, which did not fool the enemy and led to mass destruction of the attackers. I would have maintained a line formation throughout, concentrating my force AFTER breaching the wall. Easy enough to say of course when second guessing.
I am confused. The graphic at 1:03 depicts a wounded President Abraham Linclon. Is this correct?
And to see these brave soldiers vilified today by ignorant people is the second injustice brought upon these brave souls. The first being asked to do the charge
I don't vilify the soliders. Just the cause. The accounts our host has been giving are moving to the point of near tears. God bless all the fallen. Then and now.
Mr Ballard, As seen by my previous comment, I never vilify the common CSA soldiers doing, not just what they're ordered to do, but with all their resolve. I vilify "The Cause"(the right to perpetuate the institution of slavery) and the actual men behind it (slave owners), who knew better! And today; the revisionists, white supremacists, bigots, and racists who continue to use these sites to push their own twisted agendas!
They were brave. They were soldiers. They were also the enemy, and it was good they, and what they stood for, were defeated.
Lowell Dever Not necessarily, although that’s the popular answer. No doubt of the bravery. It wasn’t just about slavery though. Most southerners didn’t even own a slave .Slavery was on its way out anyway. Hotheads on both sides caused the war. If they would have just waited it would have died of natural cause, without 600,000 deaths.
Now we have a centralized federal gov. That was not the intention of the founding fathers.
@@michaelbarnett2527 NOPE!
Awesome research as always. Look forward to seeing these.
So Penders division who was to the left of Picketts division never reached the wall even ? Leaving Picketts division to be surrounded ?
From his viewpoint and because of the chaos of battle, it may have looked like they did not support the left. We do know that the North Carolinians made it to the stonewall and beyond a little ways. However, Brockenbrough's Virginians melted away before reaching the Union line.
I do believe that North Carolina troops to the left made the furthest advancement on July 3rd.
Every year on July 3, a ceremony at the Gettysburg Battle Field is held honoring all who died that fateful day. A part of the ceremony is held at the position that is concidered to be where picketts men reached the Union line. 3 batteries of Union artillery were overrun at this point but the southern line was so badly damaged union troops rushed in retaking the position(as a footnote.. The union men who stood at this point, seeing the devastation in front of them slowed their volly rounds, with most asking or trying to convincing the southern troops to surrender. A local story sad but true is. The Confederate flag bearer badly wounded and dying, struggling to advance. Using the flag pole to hold himself up was watched by the union troops in front of him. Not one soldier fired at him but allowed him to complete his mission of planting his units colors. The colors were quickly taken down and the wounded soldier was carried off the line who died soon after.
I thought it was pettigrew, not pender.
awesome as always virginian. luv em all. my hat off to you sir. thank you. heads up up there tonight for bad weather. can’t wait for more.
Through my sister's ancestral investigation and admission to the DAR I've come to understand that not only is Patrick Henry my direct ancestor(sixth grandfather on my mother's side) but General Lee who commanded this battle is as well by Henry's mother and kin.I've spent only one day at Gettysburg so far and went specifically to investigate the desperate battle for Little Roundtop.However Pickett's Charge ended up moving me to tears as I first took it in then walked it all the way to "The Angle" where there was notice that the wall had been breeched by(Armbrister?)I cannot rightly describe to you the emotions that flooded my mind as I considered the totality of what occurred in those environs over three days that shook the earth.I will return there.
I have nothing but respect for all man and beast involved in that tremendous battle.
Dick Garnet was accused of cowardice by Jackson earlier and this was the battle that would have restored his honor.Its in the book "Killer Angel's" not sure if it's TRUE or not but I consider Richard Brook Garnets honor Restored.👍
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I also read ,"Killer Angels" and it appeared that Dick Garnet was terribly troubled that he had been labeled a coward and after that was always the first to volunteer to be involved in combat. It was highly unlikely he would be able to survive this charge for two major reasons. One being his division was the first to attack and secondly he was on horseback thus an easier target.
He had been kicked by a horse and could not walk that distance thus this was the reason he was up on his horse and not marching with his men.
believe that was the battle of kernstown Jacksons only loss
@@realnealvatn Uh...the 'Seven Days" battles? Jackson's performance left a lot to be desired.
@@elviscobb5922 I have a first Edition signed by the author.I Civil War reenacted for almost 25 years.I was at a reenactment when I heard he passed from old injuries from a Bad motorcycle accident years earlier.Kinda ruined my day to hear of Michael's death.
Lee’s arrogance caused that and I am a southerner
I enjoyed listening very much, outstanding narration..
Why at first 0:58 in the painting is there a line pointing to a “Wounded President Lincoln”? Did I miss something?
I don't think people understand the impact of casualties in battle. As an active duty military personnel, i can't comprehend the impact of loss of men nor the sadness/reservation of having to generate a letter to higher head quarters describing the carnage. Their is a level of burden and responsibility of having to deliver this message. God be near those who have to deliver this kind of message.
Thank you so much for your service. And thank you so much for watching and supporting the channel.
Hi. Very nicely done, as usual.
I think one reason for the interest in Pickett's Charge is:
1. Hopelessness of such an attack (and the almost unforgivable decision to make it)
2. The courage of those who made the charge, probably knowing it would fail.
Regardless, keep up the great work.
God Bless...
Ken Brenner Your first point is interesting. From what I have been able to learn about this charge is that both Lee and Pickett believed that the Union Line was weakest at the Center and would break. There were others such as Corp General Longstreet that knew it was impossible but General Lee and General Pickett felt this charge would be successful. So very sad.
@@elviscobb5922 Thanks Elvis, I appreciate your thoughts.
Welcome to Pennsylvania.
My great great grandfather, William R. Bailiss of the 18th VA was killed making the charge.
I hope my videos help you imagine what he went through. Thank you so much for watching and supporting the channel.
Have History Will Travel thank you for the channel. Best wishes.
Is that the true picture of Richard Brooke Garnett or is that a relative? 0:41
We are not sure we have any authentic photo of Garnett. Many of them are contested.
I have been an apprentice civil war historian for more than 30 years,which is to say I am a novice!I have always wondered where General Garnetts remains are,still on the field at Gettysburg or in among the unknown in Hollywood cemetery in Richmond?
Old corps marine and Ken ehlear Garnett was on horseback later his horse was seen riderless and bloodsplattered in the time-life book Gettysburg: the Confederate high tide they wrote that Garnett's sword was found years later in a Baltimore, Maryland pawn shop
Well Done!
Citizen soldiers perform the duty their government requires. They kill and are killed. They should be remembered for their sacrifices.
He’s from my hometown! 19th VA Infantry
I could be wrong about this, but if 19th VA Major Charles "Paton" was spelled "Patton", then that would likely be the grandfather or great uncle (I can't recall exactly) of General George Patton. In any case, he did have an ancestor who was in the charge and survived.
My research shows no Charles in George's line. There was a John Patton who served under "Stonewall" and George S. Patton (I assume his grandfather) who was a CSA Colonel. (died when hit by a solid shot cannonball!
@Carlton B Thanks
General Patton ( ww2 fame) wrote that when he was a child living in California John Singleton Mosby use to visit the Patton family regularly. Mosby was good friends with George Patton's grandfather who was killed at 3rd Winchester...
Great work as usual. The debate will go on forever I guess, and I have no idea what could have been a better option in the long run than that charge, but surely anything would have been. Who knows what Lee was thinking that day.
his blood was up according to Longstreet. From what ive read about Lee he thought strategically as his pay grade should. it don't make sense strategic nor tactical, but I don't get it either. which I think means, I don't know all he did...on that day.
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My understand is that General Longstreet had asked Lee to redeploy and fight the Union on Ground of their ( Souths) choosing.
Lee's response was basically, The Army is here, We have fought here and have been successful here. To move the Southern Army from this place would be admitting defeat and NO he was not going to do that.
Lee really believed that the Union Line would break in the center and if that happened the South would have been victorious.
Lee was also having serious health issues involving his Heart and knew that some sort of major victory needed to be won or the war would continue to go on and on and on, which is what he said to General Longstreet.
This information is from the Book, Killer Angels. This was the Book used by Ken Burns to develop the movie, GETTYSBURG.
Elvis Cobb Burns developed Gettysburg? Hadn’t heard that. I know he did the mini-series.
I have read that Picketts charge still holds the record to this day for the most number of casualties in the shortest time, less than half an hour, ever experienced by Americans anywhere. Although, of course, Cold Harbour exceeds the total number of casualties in one assault overall, accumulated over a longer period and multiple charges.
After the war, when a reporter asked Pickett what was the main reason the Confederates lost at Gettysburg, Picket replied _"I've always believed the Yankees had something to do with it."_
I've never heard that, interesting..thanks
I like to cite that when I hear someone say "The Confederates would have won the battle if only this guy did that or this brigade went there". Some people have the idea that the Union army was just sitting around waiting for the rebels to beat them and all the Confederates had to do was make the right moves.
They stubborn as jackass watch any movie to cover Gettysburg it's in there
My great grandfather was there with Lee he did not die and walked back to VA and survived the war.
The 19th VA was from my hometown.
Incredible courage.
What was that "wounded President Lincoln "on the artwork at the 58 second mark?
Great video! May I ask what the background music is?
you maybe don't have to know that 941 casualties in this brigade were probably over the 35% or so beyond which an infantry unit ceases to be effective. All you need to know is that a major is now a brigadier. which says by George those officers led from the front, not the rear. these brigade COs weren't new. they took one look at the ground and knew. and went anyway.
That's why I wanted to read this account. A major leading a Brigade displays the destruction. Thank you so much for watching and supporting the channel.
@@HistoryGoneWilder thank you so much for your work.
This was a very clear and concise episode. Well done. Is there a account by General Kemper ?
ruptured duck He had a mortal wound in the charge also.
@@michaelbarnett2527 James L. (Lawson) Kemper : Confederate General was severely wounded during Pickett's charge. James L. Kemper practiced law after the war , was elected the 37th Governor of Virginia. In office from January 1, 1874 to January 1, 1878. Born June 11, 1823 Died April 7, 1895 (age 71).
The bloody 8th ended up just that, a bloody mess. War is hell even with today's stand off stuff
These boys had a heavy cross to bear.
Very confused about the account of the stone wall being breast-high. Can anyone shed some light on this?
Garnett’s body was never found but his sword was discovered in pawn shop at the turn of the century
Throughout the remaining years of his life, General Pickett never got over this needless slaughter.
If someone gives you an order with charm and alacrity... don't follow it.
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Longstreet tried to convince Lee that the attack would fail, but not even General Longstreet would say, "Marse Robert, I ain't going." So, the attack commenced. Huge "What If"........What If Lee redeployed like Longstreet had suggested....to the South and East.....get between the Army of the Potomac and Washington.....find good defensive ground.?
Had they done that, they would have won. Lee miscalculated and ruined the war with pickets charge.
@Jake Roberts I read lee knew all this and did it to shorten the war. he was commandant of west point and was no lightweight strategically..I wish we knew...
@Jake Roberts I ain't no expert, Mr
Roberts. Coventry comes to mind.
@Jake Roberts I saw a Yale vid historians measuring an arbitrary thing of 'misery.' Took census reports of one county in PA of widows and orphans 63-65.
And people believe that flying the Confederate flag is a shame when we have the bravest man this world has ever produced
All Virginia was there on that day.
Man, southern valour. It's was a desperate attempt to win.
Very well stated
Pettigrew? My people in the 15th NC remnants were assigned to him on Day 3
13th
Such a waste of such very fine men.
I believe Gen. Garnett's body was never found. He must have been horrible mangled by a shell.
Lee should learn not attack on 3 day lee should listen to longstreet he could just have his guns out in open then make infantry retreat then wait for darkness have the guns be the last to retire from the field
Thanks for the fine documentary. I can't help but wonder if America might have been better off if General Lee and the southerners had won the battle, Lincoln been deposed and the nation separated for a while. Political government is the bane of humanity.
we are good order driving the enemy Getting our arses handed to us but never get let the truth get in the way of a good battle report/lie coughbullshit.
Lee saved the Union by ordering that charge
In part yes, but the Southern Army at this point was still quite strong and fought on for 2 long years after this. The South began to realize that they might be in trouble after they lost Vicksburg.
Elvis Cobb “in trouble”
They should have known that the war was lost
They were split in 2
@@jrjohnryanjr It's interesting that Corp. Commander General Longstreet who spoke with General Lee later that evening recorded their conversation. General Lee told Longstreet several things but he also stated, "The Moral of the Army is still good and they will continue to fight with or without us .If they fight I will fight with them "
Both Lee and Longstreet realized the Confederate Army was not ready to go home so they stayed with them. It wasn't until after they were informed about Vicksburg that they were restructuring what they were going to do. Remember that it took the Confederates ten days to safety get their army out of Pennsylvania and back into what they concerned safe territory.
General Longstreet was an excellent Writer and spent many hours recording in great detail what occurred before and after all engagements with the Union.
Elvis Cobb are you also aware that a Northern newspapers called Lee’s invasion into Maryland and Pennsylvania The Great Slave Raid?
His army captured over 1000 blacks marched them south and sold them
@@jrjohnryanjr Actually, No , I had not heard that before.
I read, many historical writings about Gettysburg but do not recall reading that. I would understand the Confederate Army not wanting to record that information so that it would become common knowledge if it were true.
Maybe I will look into that? There is always so much to learn about what happened there.
[Jehovah God gave us free will, freedom to choose, and no man or group should interfere with God’s gifts to us. Political government is the bane of humanity; it is predicated on politicians using force/violence to impose their manmade and Satan infected constitutions and “laws,” supplanting God’s perfect law, well IMHO of course.
Before assuming the validity of the manmade constitution and law, one would be wise to ask and demand answers to the Marc Stevens/Lysander Spooner Question: “What factual evidence do you, judge, prosecutor, politician, IRS agent, policeman or anyone, have that the manmade constitution and “law” apply to me just because I am physically present in some state? I’ve tested judges, prosecutors and police et.al. and not one had that “factual evidence.” Factual evidence would at least initially come in the form of a sworn affidavit of truth stating what, when, where, why, how and by whom I or anyone was made subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Remember that citizenship is voluntary and stems from the constitution and is thus not proof, i.e. this would invoke circular logic fallacy.
I just today, 12-3-2019, came across the following publications though I doubt I shall ever get to reading them. Lincoln Unmasked and The Real Lincoln - JW]
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See Volume One in the American Civil War Trilogy The Coming Fury by Bruce Catton Page 260
Gen. Winfield Scott told Sec. of State Seward the new government could do one of 4 things:
1. It could adopt the Crittenden peace plan* and wait for the dissident states to return to the Union;
2. It could blockade the ports of the Southern states, collecting import duties outside the harbors and in general waiting for a break;
3. It could raise huge armies and beat the Confederacy into submission, winning as last “15 devastated provinces” that would have to be garrisoned for generations at immense cost…or
4. It could simply give up and say to the seceded states “Wayward Sisters, depart in peace.”
Choices 1, 2 and 4 did not involve the slaughter of nearly 1 million men, women and children and the wounding and maiming of perhaps another 1 million. Any of these were better than the 3rd option. By far the last choice, #4, was the best and would have paved the way for reconciliation later. Lincoln was not a “great” president, just as Wilson and FDR were not “great” presidents.
Interestingly, Lincoln denied the very first paragraph of the Declaration of Independence to wit:
“When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
Lincoln refused to concede that the colonists, who just 85 years previous, i.e. 1776, had seceded from England and that they certainly would never have put their necks under the heel of a dictatorial central government the likes of which they had just dismissed. This is a truth that is not taught in government schools or admitted by the media or by well known writers. It would have been anathema to the very foundation of liberty and the revolution to have condemned future generations to abide by their beliefs as they then would have imposed slavery. How utterly duplicitous would that have been?
*Crittenden Peace Plan thecivilwarandnorthwestwisconsin.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/1861-april-3-the-crittenden-compromise/
1861 April 3: The Crittenden Compromise
• April 4, 2011
• tags: American Civil War, Crittenden Compromise, Hudson North Star, John J. Crittenden, Peace Convention, Pennsylvania
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• John J. Crittenden, 1859, from "McClees' Gallery of Photographic Portraits of the Senators, Representatives & Delegates of the Thirty-fifth Congress," in the Library of Congress
• Although the Crittenden Compromise has by April been long dead, it comes up again in the April 3, 1861, issue of The Hudson North Star in an article about the Democratic state convention in Pennsylvania.
• When James Buchanan was still president, he recommended to Congress that it develop a compromise to keep the Union together. The Senate and the House each appointed committees to work on compromise measures. The Senate committee concentrated on a plan by Kentucky Senator John J. Crittenden, usually called the Crittenden Plan or the Crittenden Compromise. It called for a series of six constitutional amendments that would, among other things, guarantee slavery, satisfy Southern demands on fugitive slaves, and re-establish the Missouri Compromise line. The plan was introduced in Congress on December 18, and tabled on the 31st.
• It was discussed again in February at the Peace Convention and the Convention’s plan closely followed the Crittenden scheme. The Convention’s plan was also submitted to the Senate, but it received almost no support.
• Pennsylvania in Council
• The Democracy of Pennsylvania had a very large, spirited and harmonious Convention at Harrisburgh [sic] on the 22nd inst.1 The resolutions were unanimously adopted. Among others we find the following:
• Resolved. That the resolutions offered in the United States Senate by the patriotic Senator from Kentucky, and known as the Crittenden plan of compromise, present a satisfactory basis for the adjustment of our difficulties. The measures therein specified are wise, just and honorable-calculated to end the present deplorable agitation, and prevent forever its recurrence. We commend this plan or something similar to patriots-men of business-working men-political parties-to the people everywhere: and we call upon all who love their whole country and desire to preserve it, to rally to such plan of compromise and carry it through.
• Resolved. That we will, by all proper and legitimate means, oppose, discountenance and prevent any attempt, on the part of the Republicans in power, to make any armed aggression upon the Southern States, especially so long as laws convening their rights shall remain unrepealed on the statute books of Northern States, and so long as the just demands of the South shall continue unrecognized by the Republican majorities in those States, and unsecured by proper amendatory explanations of the Constitution.
• 1. “Inst.” is the abbreviation for the Latin instante mense, meaning “this month,” which in this case would actually have been March when the convention was held and the resolutions passed, not April when this article was published. The abbreviation for next month is “prox.” and last month is “ult.”
Also see the ratification documents for each state and how the right to depart in peace was mentioned:
www.usconstitution.net/otherdocs.html
A lot of people would have lived and contributed to the quality of life forever more in the absence of Lincoln, Wilson and FDR.
Lee needed his best offensive general more then ever at this moment. Can't help but think Jackson would of taken that hill the first opportunity.
A truer statement has never been written concerning Gettysburg!
Incorrect. If you studied Jacksons tactics, he absolutely would not have taken the hill. He would have told Lee that there was absolutely no reason to attack that day. They would have shifted and moved to high ground and then let the union attack them. Stonewall knew the power of defensive engagements and at the time and place, it was the union who needed to push the Confederacy out, not the other way around. Stonewall would have outmanoeuvred the union as he always had and forced the union to attack a well fortified position. Then he would have counter charged and won the largest battle of the war. The union, broken and shattered would have sued for peace. Lee fucked up by ordering pickets charge. To be honest, there was no need for the south to even charge or attack there. They had the union right where they wanted them, and Lee simply wanted it all ended on that day. Jackson was more patient.
@@jackshyt4 And what qualifies you to make this assessment? Almost every point you make is false. Lee(in overall command,not Jackson) ordered Ewell to take the hill the first day. Saying" if practicable" was the way Lee gave orders, politely. He was furious with Ewell for not doing it! He even stated later on after the war, "if Jackson was there I wouldn't have had to order it". All this is just your opinion. In mine and almost any other person with combat command experience, most military historians, and the opinions of the generals on the field that day, if Culp's Hill had been taken it would have made the other Union positions untenable , forcing them to fall back further; relinquishing the high ground to Confederates. Also, what other high ground would they have shifted to? I'm sorry but it almost seems to me your just purposely trying to be contradictory?
@@USGrant-rr2by boy, if anyone is trying to be contradictory it's you. Desperate for attention much? Obviously Jackson couldn't be in command since he was dead dumbass. The point I'm making is that Jackson wouldn't have taken the hill. Not out of disregard for Jackson, but rather as to that's literally not how Jackson fought. Ever read about his campaign in shenandoah? For an internet tough guy claiming to be a combat veteran, you would think they would have taught you history. Jackson consistently won with less numbers by movement and division of his forces. And what qualifies you to make that assessment? Literally nothing. Run along now tough guy.
@@jackshyt4 Major Douchbag, Have you ever read ANY of the many biographies of R.E. Lee. All of them state catagoricaly, (according to Lee's own staff) that he ordered Ewell to take Culp's Hill early on day one. And, was extremely upset when he didn't. Here is a quote from "Clouds of Glory- the life and legend of R.E. Lee" by M. Korda, a renowned historian, noted for his accuracy. "Ewell was being uncommunicative and had seized on the polite escape clause in Lee's order to avoid doing what Lee ordered. Lee regretted at that moment the absence of Stonewall Jackson, who, most likely would have already taken Culp's Hill without Lee ordering him to do it" from Col. Walter Taylor's(the man who delivered the order) personal memoirs! What qualifies me "Major Douchbag" is my Masters in Military History and the fact that these aren't just my opinions, they are the opinions of Lee's own staff members, his other generals and virtually every credible civil war historian. Oh, and by the way, I am a tough guy. I'm not running anywhere, except to get out of the way when you empty your BAG!
that's a nice, tough, manly, Texan voice. You better have a beard or all my respect towards you will be taken back.
My goodness, your reading skills are ludicrously unequal to the task.
No attacks should have been made on day 2 as Pickett's division was not on the battlefield yet as it was at the rear of the long Confederate line as it entered Pennsylvannia. So, actually, the Confederates were much more outnumbered on day 2 than is normally reported as the Union army was totally in place by then. It is funny how the estimated number of Union troops at the battle drops about 10,000 every 10 years. Originally, they were said to be 120,000 strong. Whatever is true, they had much more of a numerical advantage on day 2 than is reported due to Pickett not being on the field yet.
Had the exact attack plan been made on day 3 that was made on day 2, after taking day 2 to just get into position, then, with Pickett's division participating as well, the Union army would have been utterly destroyed.
I'm just going to guess you've never really studied the battle from a military strategy point of view. The Union had basically the Entire VI Corps(18,000) in reserve, and really only half the V corps was engaged(another 8-10,000 troops in reserve) By the third day, the Union would have been so entrenched, if Lee waited to attack then, it would have been a worse cummlative beating than was actually suffered in Pickett's charge! Lee would NEVER have done that. You never give your opponent more time to entrench, even if it means attacking(if that's your plan) without your entire army present!!! Actual widely accepted strengths of each complete army: Union 85-90,000, Confedr.: 70-75,000.
@@USGrant-rr2by I have studied this more than you ever will. The attacks on day 2 did not launch until very late in the day. There was little effort to "entrench" for the most part. Maybe you are under the assumption the union boys built that stone wall. No. It was already there. As was the fences. On the 2nd day each attack launched made a lot of headway and each needed a few thousand more in their ranks to achieve the breakthrough in force. Pickett's divison sent to support Barksdale, to support Hood, to support any of the separate attacks would have resulted in the total and complete destruction of the Union army. That would have been the 8,000-9,000 more needed at each spot.
So far as the Union reserves, perhaps you are not familiar with the Union position. There could really not be any Union "reserves" so to speak. The Union position was such that the so called "reserves" could have been very quickly put into action anywhere on the line of battle. And your estimation of the total Union forces is exactly the number that it has mysteriously dropped down to as the years go by. 10 years from now it will be estimated at 75,000...guaranteed.
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@@idontcare1762 So, apparently my Masters in military history is worthless. In your previous statement, you recommended Lee wait until his whole army was present(the third day) before launching the attacks he ordered on the second day. The entire VI corps was available on the third day. The union army certainly would have entrenched little round top, and probably big round top if Lee chose not to attack the second day. As Warren immediately recognized their importance on the second day. It was Meade's plan to make Lee attack his positions, since for once, the Union held the high ground. And Lee did, on the second day, as any seasoned combat general would tell you, was the proper military strategy. I will say, that if the attacks would have been more coordinated, and happened earlier in the day, as Lee ordered, they may have succeeded.
You completely contradict yourself when you say "the so called reserves" could have been very quickly put into action anywhere. That is the very definition of "reserves"! As for numbers in the AOP. Did you know that Meade had dispatched an entire division(4000) to New York City on the third day to put down the draft riots? Also, there is a big difference between total number present versus total actually committed to combat. The CSA had a vastly higher % of the army committed to combat then the AOP! The AOP had an entire infantry brigade and entire cavalry brigade committed to the wagon train. Almost a division! The ANV had only a couple hundred(1 regiment) guarding it's train. I said 85-90 thousand, OK lets make it 95,000, it doesn't matter, because Meade had no intention of attacking Lee. In my opinion, the two reasons the ANV lost Gettysburg, is because Lee did not have Jackson to independently make the right combat decisions on the first day, and for Meade to hold his ground on the second day instead of cutting and running as Hooker did at Chancellorsville.
@@USGrant-rr2by A degree in history from a liberal university where the professors are all further to the left than Ted Kennedy and are Sanders supporters today is worthless. You insinuated that the "reserves" were like off about 20 miles away eating ice cream. You know you did. You say, "held the high ground..for once". At Fredricksburg the south held the high ground....and were outnumbered 3:1. At what other battle did the south hold the high ground???? Again, the attack on Little Round Top happened very late on the afternoon on day 2. The "entrenching" was complete by the time the attack took place. The top was very nearly taken anyway. You can spin this all you want to. However, the facts are the facts. Including the fact that the AOP had in excess of 100,000 soldiers on hand while Lee had at most 70,000 with approximately 8,000 not reaching the field until after dark on day 2. Not to mention Stuart not reaching the site until after dark on day 2 as well.
At Gettysburg Pickett's charge was made against a force that far outnumbered its own and still yet, the wall was breached. At Fredericksburg the Union charge was made against a force it greatly outnumbered and yet not one Union boy made it to the wall.
Always remember that son. Make it the last thing you think about before you fall asleep each night.
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Brave men - but we should be glad they lost, as southern slavery was an evil thing.
You failed history didn't you. Four northern states still had slavery through the war. The emancipation proclamation only freed the slaves in the south. You can't tell me that the four northern states were fighting to end slavery while practicing slavery themselves....
Ehh Garnett died during picketts charge
And he insisted on riding his horse due to injury. I had an ancestor in the 19th Virginia
@llama llama i realize that. I dont get the reason of calling it Garnetts recollections.other than that i thought it was well done
@@kenehlears7716 He doesn't. Read the title, Garnett's Brigade remembers.... not Garnett himself. I'm assuming you took English in school?
@Old Corps Marine General Garnett was riding because he had been kicked by his horse and was unable to walk the distant required to get to the wall. This information is from the Book, Killer Angels used by Ken Burns to develop the movie GETTYSBURG. I also had read this information recorded by General Longstreet his commanding general in his book.