Springbok Rugby - The Greatest Ever Fly-Halves
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- We've narrowed this down to five players who have all played brilliantly at fly half for the Springboks. the only really tough omission was of course Bennie Osler, who was a legend in the 1930's.
The order of the players will definitely be open to debate, but we hope you enjoy the action none the less!
Thanks for watching and enjoy.
Glad to see Honiball get recognition. Glided through defenses with deft passing, in a way he was Larkham before Larkham came on the scene.
I'm a Kiwi by the way. I believe it's good to watch old footage of rugby so we can learn more about past great players around the world. These videos are great to witness great talent of rugby union. Too many superlative picks (the best of the best) seem to rest with current or recent players. We need to broaden our horizons when stating who's the best of all time. I think rugby in the earlier era's produced some brilliant players. Thank you for these videos.
Thanks for the support Jonathan. That is exactly why this channel exists...
I believe some older players could easily beat any current players, Danie Gerber, for example
You, sir, are a man of rare discernment.
I was only 20years old when I first saw Nass at Eden park against Auckland, he was the best flyhalf I have ever seen, he was very strong on both feet and a kicking game unmatched in our great game and a running game to die for. He was the best of the best even today Aug 2022 no one comes close to his skill set. From a Kiwi supporter and resident
Did you ever see Naas make an effective tackle?
Honiball brings back memories of Mallet's dominant era for the Boks.
Naas a great attacking fly half but an absolute liability in defence
no tackles = Naas
Nice to see the Honiball fan comments below. Fantastic #10 and tackled like a demon. But memories are short (Morne Steyn fans) and Visagie even by the standards of this list was a hugely underrated player (played for Griquas and was pivotal in their Currie Cup win 1970
Naas definitely amongst the best fly halfs ever. Dan Carter no.1
Naas no.2
The rest can fight it out for no.3..........
According to Gavin Richie, John Williams and McIntosh, Naas Botha had a tendency to disrespect and disobey his coaches if he disagreed with them, causing a lack of team cohesion when the Springboks came back to international rugby in the early 90s. Interestingly Francois Pienaar and especially Hennie Muller did the same to McIntosh when he was coach.
Naas Botha best nr 10 for sure. No one close to him
Great vid, although it brought back memories of frustration when the All Blacks were so often beaten by the Boks. And those fly haves had a huge impact on the games back then. They were so classy. Another name in there would be Gerald Bosche. The relief these days when the win/loss record is more on NZ's side!
Bennie Osler? The only man who ever challenged Don Clarke?? Jannie De Beer? 5 drop goals in a test match to win? Morne Steyn??? Joel Stransky? Eishe!
Naas Botha baie goeie speler, maar bang om te tackle
So true😅
Would you upload Honiball tribute?
Naas Botha and Hugo Porta were the only Flyhalfs who could dominate a.rugby game behind a loosing pack
Because of the sporting boycotts in the 70s and 80s players like Nass Botha had limited International matches and overseas tours. But when Nass Botha did play he was superb particularly against the LIons 1980, NZ 1981, and Cavaliers 1986. Fantastic goal kicker, great tactical kicker, and a great runner which was underestimated.
Never seen naas" Tackle" like the Lem😮
Up until the 80s flyhalfs weren't known for being great tacklers unlike today. Though I do recall in 1986 Nass crash tackling Cavaliers No 8 Murray Mexted which led to a try@asjansevanrensburg7543
Henry Honiball fully deserves to be on this list. Nick Mallet structured his record breaking 97-98 side around him, Josh Kronfeld picked him as the greatest flyhalve he ever played against and Rod Macqueen gave Bernie Larkham a video of Honiball's plays when he got the no.10 Wallaby jumper - "that's how I want you to play".
Yes Honiball ( lem)was a star and very underrated - he could tackle not like other clean pants flyhalves😅
Nasty Booter's positional play, reading of the game, situational awareness. Unparalleled ... and then I did not even mention his kicking abilities.
You are right. Winning rugby. But also boring rugby.
Surprised that Honniball managed to find a great steak in London.
Honiball the best…. ( nice to see what Pollard could do if we ever get away from this wretched kicking away all our possession by 9)
Couldn't agree with you more. But l do believe all that kicking away by de Klerk is part of the coach's game plan. Something Faf had to adhere to.
Great players all of them but Naas bly die baas!!
Naas was only a good kicker , he was a coward with tackles
Met die Curriebeker-finaal in 1976 tussen Vrystaat en WP was die voorwedstryd Vrystaat teen Noord-Transvaal se onder 19s. Daar was so 'n blondekoppie wat die bal vanaf elke plek oorgeskop het. Dis die eerste keer wat ek die NAAS fenomeen waargeneem het.
Where is Morne Steyn????
Morné Steyn
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
RecordsWorld record for most points scored by a player who has scored all their team's points (31).Most points scored against New Zealand (31) in a single testSouth African record for penalties in a test (8) - beating the seven
achieved twice by former fullback and now kicking coach of South
Africa, Percy Montgomery.
All of the above records achieved with his 31 points scored in the
Tri Nations 2009 match against the All Blacks in Durban on 1 Aug 09[6]
South African record for most points in a test against Australia.Fastest 100 points by a Springbok (8 Test matches, 3 as replacement)[7]Fastest 200 points by a Springbok (16 Test matches)Fastest 300 points by a Springbok (24 Test matches)Fastest 400 points by a Springbok (33 Test matches)Fastest 500 points by a Springbok (43 Test matches)Fastest 600 points by a Springbok (50 Test matches)Most drop-goals in a Super Rugby season (11).Most points scored against the All Blacks for a Springbok (31).Most points in a Tri Nations match (31).Most drop goals in a Super Rugby game (4) (in the 2009 Super 14 semi-final against the Crusaders)Most drop goals in Super Rugby (25)Most drop goals in a Super Rugby season (11 in 2009)Most penalties in a Super Rugby season (51 in 2010)Most points in a Super Rugby season (263) - Beating Dan Carter's record of 221 set in 2006.Most points by a Bulls player in Super Rugby history (1,467)Most points by a South African and first South African to reach 1,000 points in Super Rugby (1,467)Steyn also holds the record for most consecutive successful kicks at
goal in Test play since statistics for that category were first kept in
the late 1980s. He had a streak of 41 successful attempts that ended on
6 November 2010 against Ireland. The previous record was 36, held by Chris Paterson of Scotland.[8][9]
Nick Schoonwinkel Best flyhalve, not best kicking record...
Nick Schoonwinkel think u got your point across 🤣🤣
@@Mzansi74 What is the Job of a flyhalf ??
Naas played in Pretoria so was deadly from distance with the thin air for the Bulls who were nearly the Boks back then
Ou lem tackle die strond uit die oposisie.
Piet Visagie regtig baie goed ,,,
As a young kid I studied Honiball‘s tackling intensely. Champion!
Thank you so much. You have done a GREAT service to the rugby world, getting this footage out there. Soooo much good play that needs to be appreciated. Much love from Tennessee
Thanks for the awesome feedback Will, I'm glad you enjoy my videos! Thanks for the support
No tobias, he created more tries for all his team mates, ask danie gerber, honibal only 1 try for boks ok he can tackle !🤦♂️🤦♂️
Henry Honeyball, probably one of the worlds best. His only weakness was place kicking and he wasn't too shabby there. He put fear into opposing players before they even went on the field.
Would love to have seen Naas playing in the professional era, a true genius but would he have handled the physical game and tackling?
"Lem!" Miss those days.
😂naas dropgoal king but Errol Tobias was his match
Old Bok footage makes my day.
I love it too....
especially with commentator Gerhard Vivier and his 1960'S coverage
Hi Ryan "the good old days"...My heroes when growing up in the 50's and 60's and 70's, Keith Oxlee and Tommy Bedford.
Forget about the others.Naas Botha was the King of them all.
I missed Joel Stransky and Morné Steyn in that list.
Naas Botha. Greatest flyhalve in history. Amen.
Naas Las! Errol the best
He was too scared to tackle and he is arragant and was crappy so called Capt and disliked by springbok team players and IAM not Shure, but he had of the worst Capt results, and he can't see a forward pass , and he could never beat a record of Jannie de beer ,, so weeee
@@bettyholtz4093 Well seems the people who compiled this video along with majority of comments does not agree with you. But you have your favorites and I respect that.
@@vincentmitchell6210- Naas is baas the best in the business 😂🤣
The greatest fly half who just could not tackle
Honnibal was schooled by the Lions.
Quite strange that nobody talks about these super talented african and coloured flyhalves who rose to greatness against all odds:
1. Peter Mkata
2. Errol Tobias
3.Dixie Mokoena
4. Eric Majola
5. Phakamile Lubambo
6. Kennedy Tsimba
These were highly intelligent, gifted men. The late Eric Majola was even prevented from going to the UK to play rugby in the 1960s there. He was destined to become a British Lion as he had no opportunities in SA, his country of birth. So great was the man.
These were top Springboks who were in the league of Phil Bennet, Steve Larkham, and the great Hugo Porta , if not better!!!
To be honest, I don't think its strange at all. Its one of the unfortunate effects of Apartheid and sporting isolation that very few people knew about some of these players. Games were never televised and its only really eye witness accounts of people who saw them play that gives them legendary status. Errol broke down barriers and he was a great Springbok. Tsimba was a promising player, but not any better than any player who was picked ahead of him in the Bok side. The other players on the list I know very very little about
I understand if you don't know about these great rugby players. It's not your fault. But thank you for the honesty, and I respect you for that my brother. Take care and have a blessed festive season.
Thanks for supporting the channel Linda!
8:04 great banter.
I had to include that bit. Classic Honiball
Great list. YES, Bennie Osler before my time but Dad used to speak a lot about him.
Just to throw the cat among the pigeons and no doubt will get a lot of flak for saying this but as a die hard Bok supporter as far back as Visagie and the days before TV (giving my age away) we have never had a world class #10 comparable to "the world's best".
Good fly halves, yes but never spoken about in legendary terms as your list of centre's (by example) with maybe the exception of Naas.
The AB's historically produce top world class fly halves and then of course the Fly half of all fly halves Gareth Edwards (Wales British Lions). Why? Anyone?
Hi Tony, I grew up in the 60's and 70's. My Hero was the great Natal flyhalf, Keith Oxlee, who played most of his career behind a light pack. I have included him in "My Childhood Heroes Team". Click on my icon to watch. Cheers, Garry.
Gareth Edward's was a scrumhalf. Barry John and Phil Bennet were the great fly halves who played with Edwards in the great British Lions teams of 1971 and 1974.
One of the greatest fly halves that represented Northern Transvaal and South Africa. No doubt a rugby genius and I am glad has played for my favourite South African Provincial side Northern Transvaal. Thanks for memories Naas and your contribution towards Northern Transvaal and Springbok rugby speaks volumes.
It's a pleasure!🙏🙏
Great group. But whoever compiled this has serious blinkers on to omit Gerald Bosche.
Its just my opinion. Bosch was a great flyhalf but not as great as any of these players. If you speak to most rugby historians, he hardly gets a mention
Real Rugby Thanks for the reply. Like you said. It’s just opinion.
Wayne Francis
Have to agree that Bosch doesn't make the list. Although a great #10, all his points were with the boot and never scored a try for the Boks.
Morne Steyn?
Good player, but not as good as these guys in our opinion
Mr 1995 world cup drop goal Stransky???
Willem Kotze Does one drop make you one of the greatest ever?
Not only the ability to kick match winning drop goals but having good all round game. This guy had serious BMT and knew how to handle pressure.
Willem Kotze I agree 100%, just wanted to see if you JUST looked at that drop. This list was actually compiled by followers of our Facebook page who voted for their top 5. My list would probably be:
1. Naas Botha
2. Bennie Osler
3. Piet Visagie
4. Keith Oxlee
5. Joel Stransky/Morne Steyn
What about Joost, loved watching him play! Always something going to happen.
@@RealRugby I likewise rate Piet Visagie very highly. While the scribes raved about Joggie Jansen and the Bok loose forward trio, it was Piet as much as anybody else who destroyed Brian Lochore's All Blacks in 1970. He was an astute playmaker, an amazingly accurate punter, a handy goalkicker, and had great acceleration and an eye for a gap as his try at Ellis Park (4:26 onward in your video -- and also here: ua-cam.com/video/gVHGVk_pWiI/v-deo.html) shows. He also set Joggie the juggernaut up for a clever try in the 1970 Newlands test. A great all round #10.
Just came across your videos, awesome ..thanks
Bennie Osler should have been on the list
100% agreed. Sad there is little to no footage from those days
Naas is Baas!
Naas bly baas
Julle klink soos pappagaai
morne steyn ??!!!!!
Joel stransky over the 95 period,played out of his skin
Naas before Honiball!? Madness. Honiball may be the best fly half of all time, never mind just best springbok fly half.
Oom Jannie in die skare!
Braam van Straaten was ook n goeie loskakel
Dog hy was n flank wat pale toe kon skop😂
@@jacquesdelaharpe804 haha nope
RSA_TriHard_7 hy moes eintlik flank speel. Die vleuels het maar selde die bal gesien. Kop af....stormram van Straaten. Hy kon een van ons beter flanke gewees het wat pale toe kon skop
I am no Nasty fan but ill give credit where its due....
The lost art of the drop goal
Jannie de beer slotted 6 drops
What about Braam van straten and Jannie de Beer lance shearil 😂❤
Earl Rose???
That is moer funny. Probably stealing golf clubs😂😂😂
I see people asking for Morne Steyn. Morne who? In the big scheme of things, he's a nobody.
Morne holds the following records:
South African record for most points in a test against Australia.
Fastest 100 points by a Springbok (8 Test matches, 3 as replacement)
Fastest 200 points by a Springbok (16 Test matches
Fastest 300 points by a Springbok (24 Test matches)
Fastest 400 points by a Springbok (33 Test matches)
Fastest 500 points by a Springbok (43 Test matches)
Fastest 600 points by a Springbok (50 Test matches)
Most drop-goals in a Super Rugby season (11).
Most points scored against the All Blacks for a Springbok (31)
Most points in a Tri-Nations match (31).
Most drop goals in a Super Rugby game (4) (in the 2009 Super 14 semi-final against the Crusaders)
Most drop goals in Super Rugby (25)
Most drop goals in a Super Rugby season (11 in 2009)
Most penalties in a Super Rugby season (51 in 2010)
Most points in a Super Rugby season (263) - Beating Dan Carter's record of 221 set in 2006.
Most points by a Bulls player in Super Rugby history (1,467)
Most points by a South African and first South African to reach 1,000 points in Super Rugby (1,467)
Steyn also holds the record for most consecutive successful kicks at goal in Test play since statistics for that category were first kept in the late 1980s.
He had a streak of 41 successful attempts that ended on 6 November 2010 against Ireland. The previous record was 36, held by Chris Paterson of Scotland.
You, Sir, are a moron! ...and no, I'm not even a fan, but I will give credit where it is due. ...And it is due!
Heheheheh - @E Verm .... and @G P - my, you guys get excited ffa.
Yes, he kicks well ... but he does not play rugby well. With the ball in his hands, he is average. He cannot be rated with other outstanding flyhalfs our country has produced, not in my opinion .... and i am entitled to it, as you are to yours.
He wasn't a coward with tackles
This is a true reflection of the best of the best! This genius came in at number 19 on Rapport list of the best players. Dr. Danie Craven called him a GENIUS! He should have been in the first 3!
Watched this again....Naas is and was the best 10 ever!!