The Wisdom of Crowds by Joe Abercrombie Book Review & Reaction | The Ending The First Law Deserves?

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  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
    @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 роки тому +24

    It’s awesome to hear your thoughts here, Mike! Like you, I expect to be misty-eyed at the end of all this. Your enthusiasm for First Law is inspiring, and I can’t wait to read The Wisdom of Crowds after hearing you - it should be here in the mail today. I’m equally excited for the spoiler talk on October 4, during which we will reminisce over First Law, my friend!

    • @carton9892
      @carton9892 2 роки тому +1

      I just finished it. Going through it right now. Joe knows how to tug all of the strings of my soul.

    • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
      @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 роки тому

      @@carton9892 It’s a lot to process at the end - definitely one of my favorite reads of the year!

  • @hellobill5329
    @hellobill5329 3 роки тому +31

    This is the first book I’ve preordered and waited for. I can’t be more excited.
    P.s. The new camera angle is *chef’s kiss

    • @mikesbookreviews
      @mikesbookreviews  3 роки тому +4

      Ha ha glad you like it.

    • @2DaysYouth
      @2DaysYouth 3 роки тому

      Yo same

    • @quattrobajeena135
      @quattrobajeena135 3 роки тому

      What is chefs kiss I’ve heard that twice today now

    • @hellobill5329
      @hellobill5329 3 роки тому

      @@quattrobajeena135 a chef pitches his five fingers together then kisses them. But while kissing the fingers he pulls his hand away and expands his fingers.
      🤌🏻 kinda looks like this before the kiss.
      You don’t have to touch your finger to your lips. It’s more bring them in the direction of your lips and making the kissing motion and noise.
      It is like saying perfection.

  • @Slayereyez
    @Slayereyez 3 роки тому +11

    Stephen pacey is narrator god imo. I always read but his reading of the 1st law made me revisit all of these books multiple times over the years. Cant wait to hear him after my 1st read.

    • @angelcorrea985
      @angelcorrea985 3 роки тому +2

      I completely agree. Ive listened to the audiobooks of the entire series multiple times, mostly due to stephen pacey

    • @shalashaska615
      @shalashaska615 3 роки тому

      He’s the god damn shizzle to listen to reading these books. What other narrators do you rate? I like Rupert Degas doing the name of the wind. Also, I need a new audiobook. There’s something about being told a story.

    • @Slayereyez
      @Slayereyez 3 роки тому

      @@shalashaska615 the guy that narrates the power mage series is also excellent. I dont recall his name.

  • @ducky36F
    @ducky36F 3 роки тому +13

    I'm so scared for Orso I loved him so much in book 2 😆

  • @annarien4333
    @annarien4333 3 роки тому +13

    Just finished the book a few minutes ago and I am definitely left wanting more, especially after the last chapters. For about 400 pages of The Wisdom of Crowds, I was hating every minute of it and despising all the characters with a vengeance (except for Orso). But the last couple of chapters saved it all for me / broke my heart / put the final touches on my monumental hatred of Leo dan Brock etc etc etc.
    Did the Weaver surprise you? For my part, not at all, though I was a bit underwhelmed and a lot horrified, given the beginning of the book.
    Looking forward to that spoiler talk in a big way because there is SO MUCH to get into.

    • @Nick89000
      @Nick89000 3 роки тому +1

      Did Clover kind of drop short of his character development in your opinion? He did for me, especially towards the end. There was a slight lack of complete badass Northmen imo
      Loved the reveal with the weaver, just the mention of his name brought a smile to my face.
      Also Gunnar’s development fell a bit short for me.
      A certain characters death broke me. By far was my favourite person, I was hoping for more
      Gorst was an absolute boss lmao, loved that.
      Vick was kinda ok. She was more interesting when she was infiltrating different groups like in the previous books imo
      Leo… my god

    • @annarien4333
      @annarien4333 3 роки тому +2

      @@Nick89000 You're right about the lack of badassery in the North story lines. Shivers was a mother hen, Stour the worst asshole ever (except when Leo turned out to be worse), Calder ... poor Calder. Rikke is fine, I guess, but tbh, I liked Isern better. And Clover just gives me huge turncoat bad vibes. I get switching sides once or twice... but ALL THE FUCKING TIME and no one kills you? Please... that's all the old bastard did, was full of wisecracks and betrayal.
      I spoiled myself about the death that broke all of us even before beginning The Wisdom of Crowds. Which meant I pretty much went into the book with a 'fuck all this shit' kind of mentality. But I needed to be prepared for what happened to possibly the only good man in the entire trilogy. Or maybe not the only one, there were also Gorst and Forest.
      I'm guessing even the Weaver lost the plot a bit when it all went down, I can't believe that he would actively endorse the amount of destruction and desecration and murder that actually happened. And though I love him to bits, I also want Bayaz to avenge himself in spades.
      Leo... I don't know that I have ever hated a fictional character so much in all my 30 years of reading books. Like you say... my god. He is THE WORST at every point in his meteoric downfall.

    • @Nick89000
      @Nick89000 3 роки тому

      @@annarien4333 Haha, I know what you mean by 'fuck all this shit' mentality, I've had it before.
      Leo was just a 10x worse version of old Glokta. Glokta had at least some weird sort of charm about him and gave zero shits about anything (including shitting the bed). Leo on the other hand is just some super insecure bastard. His arc with Jurand didn't even go anywhere?? (was expecting something from book 1 onwards)
      That part when Gorst told Leo to tell his mum he held her in high regard had me laughing lol, reminded me of old times in the previous books.
      So all in all, out of the main characters, Orso didn't do much the whole book, Rikke was ok, Leo the worst, and so the only one left was Savine and although I found her to be much better than the previous books (in terms of likeability), she just wasn't really my favourite character to follow :(

    • @annarien4333
      @annarien4333 3 роки тому

      @@Nick89000 uh, I hope Mike won't kick our butts for the spoilers in the comments. That said... I want to scream whenever someone compares Leo to Glokta. I mean... really? Just because they're both physically crippled? Really? Glokta was a vain peacock when he was whole, but he was SMART. Leo is the dumbest fuck in creation. Whenever we get his PoV he couldn't be any more loathesome and yet, in the next scenes, he is. There's none of the fine irony and self deprecating humor and cleverness that we get from Glokta. Leo, when given power, is a bully and a tyrant and he knows nothing but brutality because that's all he ever was... all brawn and no brains, no finesse, no awareness of anything or anyone except his own stupid self. He's absolutely irredeemable in my eyes and at the end of the book, he's nothing but a villain. Also, Jurand gets the shaft from me as well. I was hoping he'd have a spine and some self respect, that he'd give Leo the finger and not settle for being his lackey, but nope. And the scene with Gorst. My god, if a canon had blown Jurand and Leo to bloody pulp just then, I swear I would have bought drinks for the entire city I live in.
      Truth be told, I didn't like much of anyone in the new trilogy. Of the new characters, Orso I adore (of course), Rikke I like to some extent, Savine was fine for about 5 minutes and then the hell with her too. Vick is OK, I guess, but she was just a medium for us to interact with other, more important people. And Broad... is like a broken record endlessly screeching out the same hideous tune. The last book kind of ruined the previous two for me in terms of many characters and even some of the action, but that's just the emotional impact speaking. It's still an amazing book that's well worth the highest rating.

  • @jakebishop7822
    @jakebishop7822 3 роки тому +2

    I certainly hope Joe returns to this world.
    Great review Mike, now we all have to go a while before the next JA book comes out

  • @Mark-iv6yg
    @Mark-iv6yg 2 роки тому +1

    Just finished the book last night… I agree with your ranking of the three and that last chapter of Clover’s… The sense of dread reading those last hundred and some pages… Just an extraordinary trilogy!

  • @LeonC0704
    @LeonC0704 3 роки тому +5

    I just bought all the first law universe!!! I’m on the second book of Mistborn. Can’t wait to get to these

  • @ThroatJunk
    @ThroatJunk 3 роки тому

    BIG MIKE!
    man I love your videos.
    Also, I seriously appreciate how much you you love the first law.
    It is my series too.
    Once a year I go through talk of them.
    I push them on everyone I think might be interested.
    I know you don’t do audio, but if you’re ever doing a long drive/road trip, the audio books for this series are the absolute best in the medium. It brings so much sarcasm to the sarcastic bits. So much humor to the humorous bits. So much chaos to the ever changing characters of chapters like “the little people.” Say one thing for Steven Pacey, say he is the first law.
    I love the way you jump from subject to subject without the need for cuts, transitions or diatribe. It’s a skill honed.
    As always, one hell of a video.
    One hell of a review.
    One hell of a spoiler free.
    I will absolutely check out your spoiler discussion when I finish the book.
    You became my favorite reviewer on the platform before I left for deployment last year. Honest reviews on your favorite modern series.
    You’re not clouded by love of a series.
    Your reviews of Wheel of Time are my favorite.
    Like you, it was a love/hate the whole way through, but I’m glad I’m in it.
    No hard feelings about the comic book shrug off.
    If you get a PO Box and I send them to you, just give um a chance eh?
    (SPOILERS)
    Im taking my time with it like a nice slice of meat. Eater or no. (Just finished the bayaz RICK-AH [just as you say] meeting. I read it thrice. Chills)
    10 out of 10 realest reviewer on the platform.
    Personal question, I’m about to start my journey into Stephen King after Erikson’s “The God is Not Willing”
    As of now, I’ve only read Full Dark, No Stars.
    I would really like a personal recommendation of from a fellow First Law loyalist.
    Where to start?

  • @mrsduncanthetall
    @mrsduncanthetall 3 роки тому +2

    Omg i litetally just finished TwP i was saving this video as a reward😍😍😍.love love your reviews

    • @mikesbookreviews
      @mikesbookreviews  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much! Hope you enjoy.

    • @mrsduncanthetall
      @mrsduncanthetall 3 роки тому

      @@mikesbookreviews i CANNOT wait for your spoiler review though after hearing you talk about reaching the end ...though i knew it it didnt really hit me hard until i heard you say it 😭

  • @TallShepherd
    @TallShepherd 3 роки тому +1

    IT'S HERE!!!! Can't wait to watch this, great job Mike!

  • @JJ_Hunter
    @JJ_Hunter 3 роки тому +4

    Looking forward to reading Wisdom of Crowds. Hopefully it’ll be there when I get in for work today.
    Then onto The Bonehunters next month 😎.

  • @0bscenity
    @0bscenity 3 роки тому +1

    I'm pretty sure it's near the end of the first book where Rikke says that her name rhymes with "pricker".

  • @orcanimal
    @orcanimal 3 роки тому +1

    I can't see Joe not continuing First Law. He just needs a break, like he did after writing the 3 standalones and decided to delve into the Half a King world. It sucks that it he probably won't be back in a while, but I'm excited for his new work (The Devils) and for the future continuation that feels undeniable.

  • @HashtagWhattaNerd
    @HashtagWhattaNerd 3 роки тому +1

    About 50% of the way thru after binging the audiobook on my day off and it is simply brilliant. Joe really has excelled in every facet of this novel.
    As an aside, there's a chapter called Lines of Communication in this book that I would say is the funniest chapter of any novel I've ever read.

  • @uptown3636
    @uptown3636 3 роки тому +2

    You waited long enough after the embargo to post this review! Sheesh. I had to wait 12 milliseconds for this! 😉

  • @emergentrealms89
    @emergentrealms89 3 роки тому

    Excellent review! Glad to hear your perspective on this one!

  • @josephcarrel7202
    @josephcarrel7202 3 роки тому +3

    I know how you feel when you say you've been reading this universe for years and you're truly sad to see it end. I don't know what I'm going to do when Jim Butcher end the Dresden Files

  • @tuber7081
    @tuber7081 9 місяців тому

    A lot of the ending to character arcs are just….realistic. People always seem to have a hard time accepting a realistic arc. Not everything in the world has a happy/satisfying ending, not ever character will be a better person, etc…….I love it though

  • @AdityaDendukuri
    @AdityaDendukuri 3 роки тому

    I’m getting this book tomorrow! So excited!!

  • @orcanimal
    @orcanimal 3 роки тому

    It's just like Abercrombie to finish a trilogy with a super exciting potential future... which we won't be getting for a while now. Beautiful bastard, he did it again.

  • @Thecatladybooknook_PennyD
    @Thecatladybooknook_PennyD 3 роки тому

    I'm excited to get to this one soon!! Trying to catch up but reading with a friend.

  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 3 роки тому +1

    Thank God I already requested the book at the library I can't wait to read the book 🥳🤗👍😎

  • @KalleVilenius
    @KalleVilenius 3 роки тому +1

    I'm getting the book around Friday, color me excited.

  • @Michael_L_Morrison
    @Michael_L_Morrison 3 роки тому +1

    I've only read The Blade Itself, but my goal for next year is to reread TBI and then continue with the series. So, I will be back for this review.

  • @ToddsBookTube91
    @ToddsBookTube91 3 роки тому +1

    Over 5,000 views just on this video! You lucky Dog!

    • @adammalone2909
      @adammalone2909 2 роки тому

      Hes been at it heads. No luck involved, just hard work paying off and uploading constantly to stay on the algorithms good side

  • @ducky36F
    @ducky36F 3 роки тому +1

    Ordered the physical book but couldnt wait so grabbed the ebook as soon as became available 😆
    ps. I'm pretty sure you're saying Rikke right. Pacy says it the same way at least.

  • @SuperSuperdude88
    @SuperSuperdude88 Рік тому

    i was pronouncing it Rike- as it Right( hard i ) . and did so until the END!!!!

  • @micah7492
    @micah7492 3 роки тому +1

    The audiobook pronounces Rikke the same as you, so you're stephen pacy approved 👍

  • @jessemcfadden9706
    @jessemcfadden9706 3 роки тому

    Ahhhh I didn't know this was the last book!! I need more!

  • @mitchell8867
    @mitchell8867 2 роки тому

    Everyone gets that you “don’t audio”, but I’ve seen the comment a few times telling you that everyone (including Pacey) pronounces Rikke the same way you have been. No one said sticky rhymed with Rikke, it was another word that you assumed the wrong pronunciation on from the first book

  • @grnberet9401
    @grnberet9401 3 роки тому

    I loved this trilogy, and I too was a bit misty-eyed towards the end as I realized that this could be the end of the First Law saga. But it was a wonderful right and I can't wait to see where JA takes us next.

  • @CrapSandviche
    @CrapSandviche 3 роки тому +2

    I like Mike, listen to Mike. One day he will accept me and meet me at the Bearded Fox!!!

  • @terencedavis8434
    @terencedavis8434 3 роки тому +2

    I’ve bought the book, but won’t be reading it for a while :) Just finished off Last Argument of Kings. Also, don’t forget about Sharp Ends for some extra stories from the First Law universe :)

    • @terencedavis8434
      @terencedavis8434 3 роки тому

      @BeardyRabbit Yeah, Glokta is definitely one of my favourite characters for the trilogy

    • @johnbeardshall2898
      @johnbeardshall2898 3 роки тому

      Last argument of kings is my favorite the battles are the best in series and the intrigue is a masterpiece

  • @johnbeardshall2898
    @johnbeardshall2898 3 роки тому

    I'd love to see a book about the south lands and the prophet

  • @Vojtechsroub
    @Vojtechsroub 3 роки тому

    Sitting here like idiot, in the middle of Europe, unable to buy the one most expected book on kindle, because the ebook version are available only on Amazon US and UK....really nice...

  • @SamS-xb2yr
    @SamS-xb2yr 3 роки тому

    Just finished it, agree that it comes second to the trouble with peace in the trilogy. Some things I kinda expected, a lot I didn't.

  • @t20sgrunt36
    @t20sgrunt36 3 роки тому

    Excited to start the book today. Will we tough to avoid Reddit subs and other comments for the next week or two while I read it

  • @GabrielBelmont4727
    @GabrielBelmont4727 3 роки тому

    I hope there will be an awesome battle again!

  • @fatleg1000
    @fatleg1000 3 роки тому

    I'm just here for the algorithm. I'll be back in a month after I've finished Trouble with Peace.

  • @rickeydeyoung9096
    @rickeydeyoung9096 3 роки тому

    Just finished this book. Its good

  • @kyles.5569
    @kyles.5569 3 роки тому

    Just got my copy lets GOOOO

  • @corywinterberg8764
    @corywinterberg8764 3 роки тому +1

    Oh yeah!

  • @dash4800
    @dash4800 5 місяців тому

    Overall, I've enjoyed all the fjrst law books, but if I'm honest, by the ending I was getting worn out by the persistent adherence to being grimdark all the time. I get it, its his take on the genre. But i couldn't help but feel like it has become a crutch in these books. Basically, i think its easy to write a story where the bad guys, the schemers, the morally bankrupt characters always win. You can have them do anything, betray anyone, stoop to any low. It would be much harder to write a genuinely good character winning in this world in a way that's believable. I wont suggest Abercrombie cant do that, but he clearly doesnt want to, and i think that makes it all a bit underwhelming and predictable. I wasn't shocked or emotionally gutted by the ending. I was just kind of annoyed. I dont remember how many pages were left after the big deqth, but i remember reading the rest, thinking i dont really care what happens anymore because i know exactly what it will be. Not specifically, but tonally. Its just too many books in a row committed to subverting expectations.

  • @RespectTheSourceMaterial
    @RespectTheSourceMaterial 3 роки тому +1

    awesome

  • @dpeady78
    @dpeady78 3 роки тому +1

    Here we go!

  • @TrafalgarL4wyer
    @TrafalgarL4wyer 3 роки тому +1

    Woo!

  • @rayedjualidan1504
    @rayedjualidan1504 3 роки тому

    I am sure there will be another trilogy. So we will have a trilogy of trilogies.

  • @andyappleton3353
    @andyappleton3353 2 роки тому +2

    There is absolutely no way, no way whatsoever that this was the last First Law book. After that Marvel like, After-Credits ending. Ah....no.

  • @deanryanmartin
    @deanryanmartin 3 роки тому

    Just my fearless prediction: I might never see Glokta here.

  • @SINW
    @SINW 3 роки тому +5

    Watched on 2x speed (sorry Mike!). Can you at least say yes or no on if we got one of those amazing multi-perspective chapters? Those are my favorite.

    • @mikesbookreviews
      @mikesbookreviews  3 роки тому +3

      Yes.

    • @michaelclark1811
      @michaelclark1811 3 роки тому +1

      What’s the point in mentioning that you watched it at 2x speed?

    • @SINW
      @SINW 3 роки тому +1

      @@michaelclark1811 Because I posted it 10 minutes after the video was posted... Just wanted to show I actually finished the video before posting.

  • @gallinho7268
    @gallinho7268 3 роки тому

    Can ‘the age of madness’ even be called fantasy? I can’t recall any magic or anything fantastical from the first 2 books. Its more a study of the early industrial revolution in a fictional universe. I much preferred the original trilogy because the fantastical elements like Bayaz and the eaters and their creator khalul promised so much, like an eventual showdown between Bayaz and Khalul but it never really amounted to anything. The fight between Bayaz and the eaters was awesome but the use of magic faded in the stand alones and then died in the age of madness.

    • @ducky36F
      @ducky36F 3 роки тому

      I mean Rikke. But magic is not really the point of First Law though is it? Like it is definitely still fantasy, it's set in its own world, the eaters (Shenkt, Ishri and Sulfur) are still a factor, the Shanka still exist and Rikke with her long eye is a major player. But the point of it is the characters, magic is only there to serve as a tool for them when its required. If you were looking for a big magic showdown I don't think that was ever going to happen.

  • @scottferris2686
    @scottferris2686 3 роки тому

    I really abhor this series but I love watching mikes videos for this series because he gets so excited and you can tell how much he loves the series

  • @PreppinShootinLivin
    @PreppinShootinLivin 3 роки тому

    I'd muuuuuuccchhhhh rather Abercrombie end the First Law on a high than have him continue it and it gets stale, samey, boring....lets see him branch off into a different world. I do like series ending, even if they are good, i hate to just continue to go back to the same story line/world over and over....it's hard for things to not just feel samey(Just in general, so far the First Law is mostly avoiding that, but not completely). And if I want more of the First Law world then i'll just start over at the beginning.

  • @jadapandy
    @jadapandy 3 роки тому

    There's no way this is the last book in the series. The last chapter had the Magus training two kids, along with Clover hired to train them in sword play. That's a big hint for more books to come.
    The question is... When?