Clearly your understanding of history isn't particularly bright! Just because an empire's sphere of influence reached a particular border, dint mean that they controlled all of that in totality.
@@advityatofcourse. Don't you think it's possible for a political entity centered in patna gonna have strict control over far away territories like afghanistan? That too with 300bc technology? Most probably a vast majority of their "empire" consisted of tributary kings and tribes who were mostly independent in day to day affairs Note: this is applicable for other empires like guptas, satavahanas etc.
You really think this is rational history not a manipulated history by left leaning historion what they all ways do. They have single agenda distroy rich cultural and history by colonizer mindset to weekning us as society. Say by maculye
nonsense, this librandu people used to say buddha was born in 483 bce where as recent discovery in lumbini shows that buddha was born atleast before 650- 700 bce ...also there is a significant steppe dna in indian population which occur in & around 500bce during this period we find a new calender a old saka calender, before 500bce the steppe dna was present but it was slow gradual...
@@urrasscal8380 Your incoherent, incomplete comment needs someone with your calibre of intellect to make any sense. There's no one in this universe who can challenge your intelligence and waste time. But I did, I am sorry - to myself. 😂😂😂😂😂
@@urrasscal8380 whatsapp knowledge again. 483 bce is based on Indian buddhist canon which insists Ashoka was crowned 100 years after Buddha's birth. the sinhala pali canon is closer to the real age. also, what do you mean by "recent discovery in lumbini shows", is there an edict in lumbini documenting his chronology? stopping yapping rss history on things you don't know.
For all these wasted 7-8 min , Kani given his natural squint eyed look ( even otherwise ) of history never once questioned those historians he interviewed why exactly would a king - any king or feudal chief , worth his salt permit the installation of a rock edict in the land he ruled if he didn't share some sort of a subservient relationship with the Mauryas , whatever the nature of that relationship ? This is a classic example of how historians keep themselves relevant instead of coming up with new findings or new interpretations of existing evidence. Kani & those he quotes in a" I scratch your back you scratch mine club" are a good example of "such historians" trying to stay relevant .
He did address the points you are raising. He clearly said that most of the rock edicts found on religious sites which cannot be clearly proven as a symbol of political power. If you keep an open mind you can understand what he’s saying. He is just asking questions such as: is there a necessity to re-evaluate the evidence that is clearly not cross examined in quite a while If you think that history is a settled subject and nothing new can be added to it unless it serves the egotistical interest of the majority community then you are clearly wrong. History is dynamic and we come across evidence all the time and it is important for us to alter positions based on new evidence.
@@yj9032 which is precisely why I raised the larger question as to which king would permit the installation of another king's rock edicts in his kingdom or fiefdom without being a subordinate . After all in law there's something called precedent . Archaeology & history operate on pretty much a similar if not same principle. Pls cite similar instances in India or abroad . Your second point is also something that I've addressed - there's actually no new findings on this issue hence no new writings on it since Romila Thapar's seminal work on Ashoka. Off late you've a few scholars or historians like Upinder Singh , the ones named in the documentary & maybe a couple of others who've tried to re interpret extant evidence to come up with a new narrative. The results are before your eyes & sub par. Incidentally Bibek Debroy claimed there were millions of manuscripts lying untranslated & uncurated while he was researching his translations for the epics & the Puranas. Unless you unlock that treasure trove, every few decades you'd have to be subject or content with such revisionist history depending on your PoV.
This is soros funded channel. Dont take their propoganda seriously. This channel aim is to divide indians and Hindus and always make india and indians insecure.. benifiting the interests of west
I don't think he denies anywhere in the video that Mauryas had no political influence on the Deccan in fact he says it was aggressively outward looking. An ashokan edict can be a symbol of maintaining diplomatic goodwill with the Mauryas which could attract lucrative trade relations between the mauryas and that particular kingdom. Plus we cant assume that political power of rulers was interpreted the same way in the past as it is in our modern world. In addition the degree of political control Ashoka had in the Deccan could hv obviously changed throughout his reign (he ruled for a long period, many things can be subject to change) All anirudh is doing is exploring for nuance which is very important to do in History as asking new questions can challenge previous interpretations and can lead to new findings.
The sheer fact is that Ashoka's edicts were not some polite dharmik praises or general advertisement installed in so called other empires' premises, rather they are highly Authoritative, Regal ordinances of the emperor to be installed by him throughout his Majestic empire for the subjects, whom he regarded his children, to obediently observe. The tone of language, its craft and interpretation leaves no room for speculation, specially of the shallow explanation that the guy just presented. How Foolish you want to play 😶😶😶
It is incomplete video. No explanation of what they found or what is wrong. No proofs. Reference from few books without qualifying them. No serious research.
You nailed it!! BUT.. Please..FAKE narratives is Marxist bread & butter!! Just like liars Romila Thaapar, Irafaan habib & other Marxists/Islamist's, they talk of Indian Islamic invasions history without studying primary sources or even knowing languages like Arab & Parsi!! These Marxists specialize in lies & FAKE narrative building to fool people; just like Biden talks of subjective terms like freedom, democracy bla bla.. while Putin talks of real FACTS or at least quantitative, measurable & verifiable items!!
The book “Ashovadhana” states that Ashoka had various Torture Chambers set up all across his Kingdom, much like the Soviets had Gulags or Nazis had Concentration Camps. One of these Torture Chambers made by Ashoka was called “Ashoka’s Hell” or “Agam Kuan” and it is still present in Bihar. It appears that Ashoka had Sushima killed at the eastern gates. This was followed by four years of a bloody civil war in which Ashoka seems to have killed all male rivals in his family. Buddhist texts mention that he killed ninety-nine half-brothers and only spared his full brother. Pataliputra drawing a picture showing Buddha bowing to a Jain tirthankara. Ashoka ordered him and his family to be locked inside their home and for the building to set alight. He then ordered that he would pay a gold coin in exchange for every decapitated head of a Jain.
@@samratajay7792 true, he eliminated only 3 competitors not 100, also these things were before Kalinga war, after that he became more strategic and keeper of Dhamma
This is just story bro. These stories are just to show how much Ashoka was cruel before adopting Buddhism . So that , Buddhism can spread by leap and bound.
The opium of Marxism makes one's brain demented enough to not understand basic social reality but pushes them to conjure up imagined realities through one sided psycho analysis of characters from past.
This is very disingenuous to particularly say that Mauryan empire was limited in geographical reach. Throughout ancient and even medieval history baring very few empires like Roman who were very central most empires like Mongolian empire, Persian, even mughal used to have weak central control over their occupied areas. The prime aim of expeditions was to extend your sphere of influence and collect taxes from your tributaries. Most of the times they didn't overthrow the conquered king or just install a kin of the king who pays tribute and were sometimes asked to mint coin in their names. The aim was not to run the conquered kingdom via a central control and interfere in their day to day workings but just to collect taxes and accept the other kingdom as their overlords as an honorary title which in return received protection from rival kingdoms. Ashoka edicts has been found all over the country right from Kandahar in Afghanistan to Amravati in Andhra to Dhauli in Orissa. Buddhism was spread in Sri Lanka by Ashoka's firstborn who was invited by the Lankan king. This selective narrative that Ancient Indian kingdoms which are deeply revered today as pan Indian kingdoms were rather just an exaggeration is deeply flawed and stinks of bias. Even the east india company model was federal and based on just friendly kings who allowed trade access monopoly until British queen took over. The only conclusions we can draw from these new findings is that Ancient empires were more federal in nature and didn't have absolute central rule or law. As in to think their use to be some form of a Uniform civil code in ancient empires in itself is irrational.
Right! They are judging it by today's standards! The state anywhere in the World wasn't so powerful, even when it was a monarchy! It was only with the invention of the gun that state became so much powerful, creating a need to abolish monarchy and establish rule of law. But back then, authority over a king was more like a MoU with one party at greater benefit which it could enforce through more hard power.
@@priyamawasthi6254 Not convinced if many men with swords were any less powerful than guns!! More over, we have no conclusive evidence if there were or there were not technologies/weapons that may have existed which were as powerful or more than guns!! Also, was gun powder not discovered by then??!! Anyways, one thing is sure.. He is presenting a Marxist/Nehruvian COLONIAL history V2 which can be seen in the title!! The Mauryas were natives of this land!! The title must have been: "Did the Mauryas really UNITE all of India?" "Conquer" is the COLONIAL word par excellence NOT to use!!
@@raghuls1515 Agree even roman empire was more federal than today's countries. I was just trying to put things into perspective of how selectively targeting some Indian empire for being federal is.
What was the reason for erecting the "rock edicts" in almost all corners of India? If Ashoka did not control those lands , the rulers of the lands would have destroyed them, is it not ? If he is not in control of the lands, then , what purpose was meant to be achieved?
Using the same analogy just because everyone in India salutes the same flag - Tiranga, respects the same national anthem, does not mean that India is one political entity. You cannot abandon commonsense while studying history. The first thing a conqueror does after victory is erect emblems indicating that that land belongs to him/her. The Ashokan stupa is found practically everywhere.
If you were educated or had knowledge, you would know that political entries & nations as we know now are VERY recent developments!! A nation & civilzation can be UNITED by culture which was the case with all of Indian sub continent!!
The question is how many Ashoka edicts were made and how many have been discovered before you came on this decisive conclusion ,If not so then maybe in the next coming years of episode on same matter we may have other narratives.Dont stick to a particular point of view as it's the only one ,represent other also.
@@adma7298 The way u relate Muslims-gdp-freedom/justice-Maurya Empire tells me that , u r another one of the brain dead bhakts. For whom : 1 + 1 is not 2 but whatever you feel like. Living in hate has corrupted your brain.
This is Marxist Nehruvian history V2 which can be seen in their title!! 1. The Mauryas were natives of this land!! The title must have been: "Did the Mauryas really UNITE all of India?" "Conquer" is the COLONIAL word par excellence NOT to use!! 2. Dharma (Hinduism/Buddhism..) is way above above & beyond mere religion!! They may have been proselytizing BUT they did NOT do any genocides, destruction & forced conversions as done by Christianity & Islam that killed billions of people & destroyed native cultures all across the world including hundreds of millions of Hindus & Buddhists!!
@@rajashashankgutta4334 The agents of the Mauryas in this region were likely local elites aiming to establish connections with new emerging networks. That is to say, the extreme centralization and influence from the Ashokan polity often boasted in propaganda writings, however impractical considering that world, is barely evident from the archaeological data. The presence of rock edicts in areas doesn't mean a political control or centralization, it's just too convenient interpretation. Anyways, I don't want to write a thesis on this in the comment section here. It's useless debating anything here. If you are really into archeology and history please do further research as it's an interesting subject. Just that there might be other things worthy of consideration. If you are some religious fanatic or andh bhakt, please don't waste your time as I'm not going to reply to anything now. Have a good time. Bye
It is known that chandragupta maurya came doen soith and settled in Shravanabelagola. Which is deep down south. Would and Emperor come down to another kingdom not under thier control to be a ascetic
This is Marxist Nehruvian history V2 which can be seen in their title!! 1. The Mauryas were natives of this land!! The title must have been: "Did the Mauryas really UNITE all of India?" "Conquer" is the COLONIAL word par excellence NOT to use!! 2. Dharma (Hinduism/Buddhism..) is way above above & beyond mere religion!! They may have been proselytizing BUT they did NOT do any genocides, destruction & forced conversions as done by Christianity & Islam that killed billions of people & destroyed native cultures all across the world including hundreds of millions of Hindus & Buddhists!!
Monks , ascetics roam freely before and after any number of empires Chandragupta didn't came as king r conquerer to face resistance but as ascetic Those times thiruvalluvar is also a monk In tamilnadu ever heard of thirukural V welcome and appreciate saints sages poets for their knowledge b it from anywhere, every happend to read how tamil kings treat educated poets with huge riches not jus to sing praise of them by to appreciate and support knowledge and education V 2 have relations with Greeks and Greek soldiers served as bodyguards and militants in pandya kingdom Pandiyan nedumcheliyan gave humiliating defeat to bindhusara Cholas put end to ashokas victory March and pushed back If it not for idiots sundra pandiyan brothers fight among themselves ,malik Kapoor would not have entered South Till that point South sucessfully defended and defeated empires n given hell for enemies
Arent you trying to fit History into modern political realities? However, the question is How Did 'Brahmanism spread' in the sub continent. From your analysis it seems 'Brahmanism', like Budhhism, had not 'spread' by 'Brahmin Deceit' afterall rather by Local Demand. Btw, one of your most interesting episodes. Thanks.
He is trying that for a long time, he wanted to show that even Indians conquered other places so Muslims doing rhe same should not be a problem. But he forgets what treatment the mughals gave to local populace viz a viz cholas
The way Brahmanism spread across Subcontinent was completely different from how Islam spread. Sanskritisation is a more correct term than Brahmanism. 2 processes of Universalisation and parochialisation were involved in the 2 way interaction between brahmanical stream and local stream. Because the Vedic/Brahmanism was a vast pot from the beginning, it absorbed everything local cultures and beliefs had. And made them universal/bigger. Examples are Pooja of Santoshi mata, ritual of Govardhan/Gobardhan. Occupational categorisation, Worship of Shakti, tantric etc. There is concept of greater culture and little culture in socio-cultural anthropology. Brahmanism didn't forced the mainstream culture on people across lands. That's why you will see so many streams of Advaita, dvaita, vishisth Advaita, lingayat, ajivik, lokayat etc. It changed shape as per what people wanted it to be. Only time and people ( not Brahmanism itself) can be blamed for the ambiguity and confused history of originality and origin of Sanatan dharm. On the other hand, coercion, brutality and ethnocentrism( 'believing that my culture is better than yours' ) is evident in Islamic and Christianity propagation
@@millennialmind9507 Besides, Tamils in Malay Peninsula and Sri Lanka arent going around propagating Regressive Religious Principles like the Deobandis and ilk do in the Indian Sub continent. Total lack of Progressive thought amongst Islamic Scholarship and Clergy.
Just simple as it is. By assimilating everything what it encountered in their way. And it was pagan culture and that time all over indian subcontinent practising pagan culture. So it was very simple to assimilate elements and come out as a one Sanatana religion comprise of different believes. Unlike abrahmic religions which exterminated everything they got in their way and established supremacy of their own belief.
You know you can interpret this and that by looking at the evidence as many times as you want to but Maurayas were perhaps one of the first ones in the past who have a heroic story ( there others in later times in south as well like Cholas, Pallavas and Rashtrakutas etc). My point is a story like of Chandrgupta Maurya and Ashoka inspire us to be courageous and benevolent so we should take pride in it that we had great civilizational culture filled High values associated with past rulers .
I'm amused, intrigued by this much emphasis on history in india like never before so much intrest and popularity among people to learn thanks to bjp in renarrating
Ancient Hindu rulers emperors never annihilated any community hence we see no where in the world people with their own language , customs, forest dwellers called adivasis, rural , village called grameen , town city dwellers nagarvasi while rest of the world we don’t see tribal life all has been killed genocide by colonizers ,minvaders converted by missionaries
Kindly read the video description where he's posted his sources before making sweeping statements about needing substantiation. You'll believe one line IT cell WhatsApp messages which make outrageous claims like Indians invented aeroplanes 20,000 years ago, but when a historian makes a case and presents evidence, you'll make daft comments like this.
You should have covered the white washing of chandashokas image into this bhuddist pacifist by nehru and imperial historians. Merely being Buddhist did not mean the period was not extremely violent. This modern image of Buddhism of peacefulness and inclusion of castes is just baloney.
whithout even knowing the teachins of the buddha you are saying that it is wrong. buddha never preached any religion he was the opposite of any kind of indoctrination.
@@elliotalderson2007 You misunderstood me. Like the followers of Christ nothing but war like the followers of kind hearted budha were also warring. It's not a reflection of budhas teachings which are a gift to mankind
@@elliotalderson2007 buddha's teaching was piece of shit because of this type of chutiya philosophy, it ruined iindia. Both buddha and jain was the main culprit of iindia becoming a sslave nation .... we iindians are the son's and daughter's of warriors ( ram & krishna) whoever messes with us we will double, triple, quadruple ...to infinity mess with them ..... iindia will throw this chutiya philosophy for good and adopt chanakyas's philosophy of " saam, daam, dand, bhed" ....fucuk the idea of " vasudev kutumbakam".
why you don't say about Gupta dynasty & other Indian empire inscriptions and their locations only say about ashok's edicts and his empire.gupta and other Indian empire United india
history is not both sideism but just history and facts. IDK why we are so obsessed with past. Our true national identity starts after Bengali and Marathi Hindu nationalists starts the dream of Modern day India.
You've just questioned the most widely accepted narrative of subcontinental history. Come to Delhi and see for yourself how deeply rooted this is in the Republic of India.
These colonized Marxists specialize in lies, mirch Massala & FAKE narrative building to fool people; just like Biden talks of subjective terms like freedom, democracy bla bla.. while Putin talks of real FACTS or at least quantitative, measurable & verifiable items!!
Do u all have tendency to show some parts of india in thumbnail as holes in Mauryan rule? Do u despise the unity in thumbnail but forget it when it comes to Mughals
I think you need to study more especially Asoka's edicts and discoveries done by various historians rather than doing speculation about what Mauryan were and what not.
I love how the stack of books are placed on either side of this guy to make him seem smart and hide his incompetence and foolishness. He used terms like "complex" and "messy" to hide his shallow knowledge. These "popular" historians dont want to go into facts, they just focus on mirch masala and that too half baked
@@accountforcommenting South Indians are behind in representation. Actor, actresses, Atheletes, Models like miss world miss universe. National Politics as well. In these areas they are way behind and need to come up
7:39 Buddhism was the sub-continents first great export? Anirudh... learn your damn history obviously Hinduism was the first great export, Buddhism spread to the Hindu kingdoms of SEA Asia....
What are you trying to get at? Ofcourse North Indian mauryan soldiers weren't roaming around South like a police state. There were levels to the administration and local chieftains pledge allegiance to the kings who did to their dynasties and so on. Mauryan empire clearly had a deep reach and ofcourse wasn't centralized but was impactful. In Indian context, we never had strong central political entities, we always worked as a union politically nonetheless we always had strong community and culture.
I really disagree Ashoka being lay Buddhist pushing proselytizing, he was deeply secular, even in the modern senses & that's why he could hold the large area of the sub continent for some time
Interesting video and well done. I think it would be more compelling and easier t follow if you'd also touched on what you're proposing were the boundaries and expanse of Ashoka's empire in his day. My sense is that southern boundary would have been the Kalinga empire and so perhaps no more than 1/2 of the Deccan at best. Probably less. Of course - elements of soft power and power projection have a role in that era as they do now thereby expanding influence without Conquest.
No mention of Ashoka can be found in 18th century and earlier Indian texts. It was left to British historians to link all the inscriptions (in Pali and local languages) and thus "discoverr" Ashoka, who went by the name Devanampiya in the inscriptions.
This is Marxist/Nehruvian COLONIAL history V2 which can be seen in the title!! The Mauryas were natives of this land!! The title must have been: "Did the Mauryas really UNITE all of India?" "Conquer" is the WRONG word par excellence, NOT to use!!
@@rka-truthalwayswins5127 lol it was the "Marxist/Nehruvian " due to him dharma chakra is in the center of our flag, ashoka's emblem is the emblem of India, peacock is our national bird and his daughter was named "Indira Priyadarshini"(Priyadarsha/Piyadassa/Piodasses was the title used by Ashoka and later Gautamiputra Satakarni).
This information is wrong.ashok's major rock edicts showing his boundry of empire, Ashok's minor rock edicts show important cities of his empire,Ashok built stupas and some pillars erect near stupas, some pillars was erected on roadside
Ashoka might not governed whole subcontinent but was definitely sole polity without any competitor. Southern part of india definitely was untouched but it was primarily due to logistics. Also u didn't mention any local ruler . Mauryan came when northern India have mahajanpad or great republic.
This is Marxist/Nehruvian COLONIAL history V2 which can be seen in the title!! The Mauryas were natives of this land!! The title must have been: "Did the Mauryas really UNITE all of India?" "Conquer" is the WRONG word par excellence, NOT to use!!
Aniruddh recently criticized Marxist historians in his discussion with William Dalrymple at Calicut literature fest. Just because you don't find it favourable, it won't become Marxist history.
@@thevilderblue So just because he criticized once the Marxists, he becomes the icon of truth??!! People like you should seek truth instead of blind ideology!!
Unlike empirical scientific study the academic historical study is mainly based on conjecture founded on highly selective, subjective ethnographical and historiographical materials and/or fragmentary archaeological finds. There is always a question of how reliable and valid the methodology being employed in this field of study. The suggestive report cannot rule out the underlying biases and preferential interpretations of particular historians holding a particular view.
Don't get carried away!! Dharma has several flavors!! I doubt if he was Dharmic; i.e real Hindu or Buddhist!! Even a Dharmic Japan had such a phase when one of their kings lost Dharma & got into imperialism & then 2nd. world war!!
what brilliant !!! this librandus used to say aaryan invasion theory, they could not prove it and started to say aaryan migration theory , this librandus used to say saraswati river is a mythical river, this librandus used to say that sanskrit is a very new langauge not older than 600-700bce but we find artifact which prove the existence of sanskrit actually new version of sanskrit in syria and turkey atleast 1800 bce [ mittani empire ( kakulli artifact) however there communication language was different] , this librandus used to say buddha was born in 483 bce but recent discoery in lumbini prove that buddha was born atleast before 650-700bce, they used to claim that r1a1 haplogroup ( so called aaryan dna) is originated in europe however the highest diversity of r1a1 is found in iindia ........ this librandus never do original research they always copy paste foreigners.
This videos present an alternate account using the same artifacts but without any substantiation. It’s clear that all these historians, their books and this video doesn’t have a coin, unless they provide alternate stories. However it’s just another riff. Yes, the alternate account tells us that the stories told so far are not the complete accounts. But I don’t see anything other than noise with the politics thrown in with slant. If one strips off the “historical” superfluous account here, it’s clear that there is huge undercurrent of political messaging. Downright shameful. Without an iota of erudition to move the needle in terms of knowledge of the past, such content fights propaganda with other set of false claims.
3:13 Tamil merchants concur China..... Go and erect pillars and monuments in Beijing, China today , if you can , as a visitor. Your argument , that Mauryan pillars which were found in south of Vindhyas, are no proof of Mauryan control of that region , has no logical basis. No foreign power is ever allowed to build monuments at will anywhere in the world, unless they control that region. And then, you blissfully and conveniently ignore the written history from Jain and Buddhist texts which also provide ample information about the spread of Mauryan empire in that period. Don't act like an historian if you are not one.
He looks to be a colonized Marxist!! With this video I have doubts about his competence & truthfulness!! What was lovable in his book?? Did you compare his version of history with true, primary evidence & fact based history??!!
@@rka-truthalwayswins5127 he is a historian , just because he 'looks' a certain way, that does no diminsh his credibilities, likewise it would be wrong to judge u as a 'deadbeat sweaty virgin andhbhakt' ,who to hide his own insecurities tries projects a fake bravado like hindutva. Even though ur comment says otherwise . And also please do not melt your brain over history, Trust me you are way off buddy, u haven't even mentioned anything substansive. Anyways point is dont judge a book by cover, first read the fucking book
@@free_soul9154 due to its geography and shared cultures and peoples indian subcontinent was looked upan as a single entity containing different kingdoms and polities
@@free_soul9154 Bharat Varsh and Arya Varta are made popular by TV serials. TV series is a fictional story developed from orginal Mahabharata. History is record of politics, culture and economy. Mythology is mix stories, miracles and preaching's. Don't combine both.
@@danm7523 then what is Britain itself is illegitimate and illegal and so called usa any other countries because no border is constant and fixed name one country which have same border culture or people now European race have changing many people from Africa Asia have presence in Europe Turkey latest border are nothing compare to Ottoman Empire
Is it necessary to make superfluous claims ? You Print folks are just another set of cheap shots hiding under the garb of false intellectualism. Shekhar, we expect better from you and your team
That's the beauty of Hinduism r Santa dhana dharma When u create stories with mythical magical cg and in the end if u say moral and use the story as illustration( jathaka stories) *Stands for sometime 🐩 jus as stories and dissolve If big empire impose laws that it sees as the best thing and impose will strictly and moniters and punish offenders r collect fine *Fear n fine mak them obey law r dharma r constitution till the empire collapse🤕 But if u say it's dharma create r upgrade existing stories r existing icon r rulling clan n make stories purans which r for philosophical explanation and r not fully historical evidence n if make a generation people believe worship those personality which r god like 🎉🎉 Over time keep adding one day , like when he's going here , r like stories inside stories inside stories TO IMPOSE LAWS R MORALS WHICH THE 1 WHO HAVE POWER OVER PURANS STORIES OR THE 1 IN AUTHORITY KEPP INSERTING THEIR 💩💩💩 AS MORALS LAWS DARRRMAS ( Like ram killing shudra for doing tapas and establish dar-ma , ....morals lik varnas can't do others jobs even if they can do better ... tonnes of 💩💩💩💩.. lik if braman xxx Sutra he may dip in river n gets cleansed but mak sure no property r education to this born , but if Sutra xxx braman he b chopped to pieces .... Don think those tonnes 💩💩💩💩 r god prescription but r made to retain position n power n maintain using fear of God ..) * THEN THAT Constitution , law , dar-ma , will stand for as long as the culture lives AND future generations will AFRAID TO EVEN EDIT OR SAY ANYTHING AGAINST IT AS IT CONTAINS WISDOM 2 n ALSO v worship them as GODS U don have to b against the religion but u say something as purely religious 💩 used for exploiting, unfair Then self proclaimed patriots, bakths ,Santa dhana dharma people stamp u adarmi , anti hindu, anti whatever Parathiyan matha ki j ( Parathiyan r Iranians not Indians) All our purans r written in2ad which v claim to b 6000bc , where 2ad warrior fight 6000bc war Our purans stories r not historical evidence, kept edited updated time and again juz lik Chinese update new borders now n then , they give the local rulers r chief too a role in the already famous epics where ever they go Varna dama, EWS privilege, Kula education is not indian it's invaders traditions that mix with ours v become them Sanskrit is not indian language it's invaders language Didn't our scriptures say how they invaded India and call native as krishnas (black colour), speak different language ( not Sanskrit ), n how they destroyed their vak ( cut off their tongue r destroy books ) n taken 10s 1000s as shudra slaves .... Likes of babur Mughals r Brits r not the only invaders , Mughals didn't accept ours god else they would have become satriyas , that's what v did to earlier invaders , that's how they get lineage of chandra, Indra ........upto their grandfather to say they r superior
@@urrasscal8380don know about that 1 but See the beauty of Hinduism r Santa dhana dharma When u create stories with mythical magical cg and in the end if u say moral and use the story as illustration( jathaka stories) *Stands for sometime 🐩 jus as stories and dissolve If big empire impose laws that it sees as the best thing and impose will strictly and moniters and punish offenders r collect fine *Fear n fine mak them obey law r dharma r constitution till the empire collapse🤕 But if u say it's dharma create r upgrade existing stories r existing icon r rulling clan n make stories purans which r for philosophical explanation and r not fully historical evidence n if make a generation people believe worship those personality which r god like 🎉🎉 Over time keep adding one day , like when he's going here , r like stories inside stories inside stories TO IMPOSE LAWS R MORALS WHICH THE 1 WHO HAVE POWER OVER PURANS STORIES OR THE 1 IN AUTHORITY KEPP INSERTING THEIR 💩💩💩 AS MORALS LAWS DARRRMAS ( Like ram killing shudra for doing tapas and establish dar-ma , ....morals lik varnas can't do others jobs even if they can do better ... tonnes of 💩💩💩💩.. lik if braman xxx Sutra he may dip in river n gets cleansed but mak sure no property r education to this born , but if Sutra xxx braman he b chopped to pieces .... Don think those tonnes 💩💩💩💩 r god prescription but r made to retain position n power n maintain using fear of God ..) * THEN THAT Constitution , law , dar-ma , will stand for as long as the culture lives AND future generations will AFRAID TO EVEN EDIT OR SAY ANYTHING AGAINST IT AS IT CONTAINS WISDOM 2 n ALSO v worship them as GODS U don have to b against the religion but u say something as purely religious 💩 used for exploiting, unfair Then self proclaimed patriots, bakths ,Santa dhana dharma people stamp u adarmi , anti hindu, anti whatever Parathiyan matha ki j ( Parathiyan r Iranians not Indians) All our purans r written in2ad which v claim to b 6000bc , where 2ad warrior fight 6000bc war Our purans stories r not historical evidence, kept edited updated time and again juz lik Chinese update new borders now n then , they give the local rulers r chief too a role in the already famous epics where ever they go Varna dama, EWS privilege, Kula education is not indian it's invaders traditions that mix with ours v become them Sanskrit is not indian language it's invaders language Didn't our scriptures say how they invaded India and call native as krishnas (black colour), speak different language ( not Sanskrit ), n how they destroyed their vak ( cut off their tongue r destroy books ) n taken 10s 1000s as shudra slaves .... Likes of babur Mughals r Brits r not the only invaders , Mughals didn't accept ours god else they would have become satriyas , that's what v did to earlier invaders , that's how they get lineage of chandra, Indra ........upto their grandfather to say they r superior
Not even unifying our own. May b to extend lik trigger religious emotions juz lik religious Pak and mix it with politics and mob run over WHOEVER in way V discriminate and keep maintaining distance for every1 based on their birth,lineage , ...... ( nandhanar ... shivaji maharaj... ambedkar...) Som can go near temple , while some inside , some inside further , not bcz of their profession but by birth others r denied that profession,the right Even after amalgamating all faiths from jain budhist to local deities to Hinduism r Santa dhana dharma still that one never changes . Till those 💩💩💩 r not removed it's no dhama jus dar- ma drama
There is a very troubling way in which this person wants to intrpret history very often he has an absolute hatred of Indian identiy and any kind of nationalism....it almost seems like his whole goal is not to present history but to deconstruct things based on his political leanings. History has become a political battleground for these people.
By wnslabing, marauding and raping everything that these violemt bigoted morons saw in their way? Sure Ghazni and Ghauri and Nadir Shah are great examples. Are you guys even for real?
Indian subcontinent muslim are usually converted from Hindu lower caste and most of the Muslim in asia are never rule india this is also a historical facts then Why u support mughals we know mughals are Central Asian tribe
@@akshaysen6778 You are right. But here discussion is going on to belittle the achievement of Mauriyan Empire about which brahmin pundit didn't know anything about it till British Archaeologist discovered it. So-called brahmin scholars didn't know that there was an emperor called Asoka.
Hey you said nothing. Just raised baseless doubts on Ashokan rock edicts.
Why will some ruler allow another rulers edict in his area?
You nailed it!! These colonized Marxists specialize in lies, mirch Massala & FAKE narrative building to fool people!!
Clearly your understanding of history isn't particularly bright! Just because an empire's sphere of influence reached a particular border, dint mean that they controlled all of that in totality.
@@advityatofcourse. Don't you think it's possible for a political entity centered in patna gonna have strict control over far away territories like afghanistan? That too with 300bc technology? Most probably a vast majority of their "empire" consisted of tributary kings and tribes who were mostly independent in day to day affairs
Note: this is applicable for other empires like guptas, satavahanas etc.
Finally someone is presenting more rational history rather than portraying mythical stories passed on as history.
Thank You 🙏🏻
You really think this is rational history not a manipulated history by left leaning historion what they all ways do. They have single agenda distroy rich cultural and history by colonizer mindset to weekning us as society.
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nonsense, this librandu people used to say buddha was born in 483 bce where as recent discovery in lumbini shows that buddha was born atleast before 650- 700 bce ...also there is a significant steppe dna in indian population which occur in & around 500bce during this period we find a new calender a old saka calender, before 500bce the steppe dna was present but it was slow gradual...
@@urrasscal8380 Your incoherent, incomplete comment needs someone with your calibre of intellect to make any sense.
There's no one in this universe who can challenge your intelligence and waste time.
But I did, I am sorry - to myself.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@urrasscal8380Sources pls
@@urrasscal8380 whatsapp knowledge again. 483 bce is based on Indian buddhist canon which insists Ashoka was crowned 100 years after Buddha's birth. the sinhala pali canon is closer to the real age. also, what do you mean by "recent discovery in lumbini shows", is there an edict in lumbini documenting his chronology? stopping yapping rss history on things you don't know.
For all these wasted 7-8 min , Kani given his natural squint eyed look ( even otherwise ) of history never once questioned those historians he interviewed why exactly would a king - any king or feudal chief , worth his salt permit the installation of a rock edict in the land he ruled if he didn't share some sort of a subservient relationship with the Mauryas , whatever the nature of that relationship ?
This is a classic example of how historians keep themselves relevant instead of coming up with new findings or new interpretations of existing evidence. Kani & those he quotes in a" I scratch your back you scratch mine club" are a good example of "such historians" trying to stay relevant .
He did address the points you are raising. He clearly said that most of the rock edicts found on religious sites which cannot be clearly proven as a symbol of political power. If you keep an open mind you can understand what he’s saying. He is just asking questions such as: is there a necessity to re-evaluate the evidence that is clearly not cross examined in quite a while
If you think that history is a settled subject and nothing new can be added to it unless it serves the egotistical interest of the majority community then you are clearly wrong. History is dynamic and we come across evidence all the time and it is important for us to alter positions based on new evidence.
@@yj9032 which is precisely why I raised the larger question as to which king would permit the installation of another king's rock edicts in his kingdom or fiefdom without being a subordinate .
After all in law there's something called precedent . Archaeology & history operate on pretty much a similar if not same principle. Pls cite similar instances in India or abroad .
Your second point is also something that I've addressed - there's actually no new findings on this issue hence no new writings on it since Romila Thapar's seminal work on Ashoka.
Off late you've a few scholars or historians like Upinder Singh , the ones named in the documentary & maybe a couple of others who've tried to re interpret extant evidence to come up with a new narrative. The results are before your eyes & sub par.
Incidentally Bibek Debroy claimed there were millions of manuscripts lying untranslated & uncurated while he was researching his translations for the epics & the Puranas.
Unless you unlock that treasure trove, every few decades you'd have to be subject or content with such revisionist history depending on your PoV.
This is soros funded channel. Dont take their propoganda seriously. This channel aim is to divide indians and Hindus and always make india and indians insecure.. benifiting the interests of west
I don't think he denies anywhere in the video that Mauryas had no political influence on the Deccan in fact he says it was aggressively outward looking. An ashokan edict can be a symbol of maintaining diplomatic goodwill with the Mauryas which could attract lucrative trade relations between the mauryas and that particular kingdom. Plus we cant assume that political power of rulers was interpreted the same way in the past as it is in our modern world. In addition the degree of political control Ashoka had in the Deccan could hv obviously changed throughout his reign (he ruled for a long period, many things can be subject to change) All anirudh is doing is exploring for nuance which is very important to do in History as asking new questions can challenge previous interpretations and can lead to new findings.
Fakers😂crying over their loss
The sheer fact is that Ashoka's edicts were not some polite dharmik praises or general advertisement installed in so called other empires' premises, rather they are highly Authoritative, Regal ordinances of the emperor to be installed by him throughout his Majestic empire for the subjects, whom he regarded his children, to obediently observe. The tone of language, its craft and interpretation leaves no room for speculation, specially of the shallow explanation that the guy just presented. How Foolish you want to play 😶😶😶
It is incomplete video. No explanation of what they found or what is wrong. No proofs. Reference from few books without qualifying them. No serious research.
You nailed it!! BUT.. Please..FAKE narratives is Marxist bread & butter!! Just like liars Romila Thaapar, Irafaan habib & other Marxists/Islamist's, they talk of Indian Islamic invasions history without studying primary sources or even knowing languages like Arab & Parsi!!
These Marxists specialize in lies & FAKE narrative building to fool people; just like Biden talks of subjective terms like freedom, democracy bla bla.. while Putin talks of real FACTS or at least quantitative, measurable & verifiable items!!
The book “Ashovadhana” states that Ashoka had various Torture Chambers set up all across his Kingdom, much like the Soviets had Gulags or Nazis had Concentration Camps. One of these Torture Chambers made by Ashoka was called “Ashoka’s Hell” or “Agam Kuan” and it is still present in Bihar.
It appears that Ashoka had Sushima killed at the eastern gates. This was followed by four years of a bloody civil war in which Ashoka seems to have killed all male rivals in his family. Buddhist texts mention that he killed ninety-nine half-brothers and only spared his full brother.
Pataliputra drawing a picture showing Buddha bowing to a Jain tirthankara. Ashoka ordered him and his family to be locked inside their home and for the building to set alight. He then ordered that he would pay a gold coin in exchange for every decapitated head of a Jain.
Those texts are exaggerated...u should read more before drawing conclusions.. I'm not denying his cruelty but there is exaggeration
@@samratajay7792 true, he eliminated only 3 competitors not 100, also these things were before Kalinga war, after that he became more strategic and keeper of Dhamma
This is just story bro. These stories are just to show how much Ashoka was cruel before adopting Buddhism . So that , Buddhism can spread by leap and bound.
And by the way, book name is "Ashokavadana"
WhatsApp knowledge. No Indian knew about Asoka before British Archaeologist discovered it.
monks were looking for makets ? are you nuts
Buddhist monks converted majority of Hindus to Buddhism under the shadow of sword.
They are actually nuts . They make their own history.
Markets in the sense marketing their way of life or religion
The opium of Marxism makes one's brain demented enough to not understand basic social reality but pushes them to conjure up imagined realities through one sided psycho analysis of characters from past.
@@adma7298 buddhist monks with swords.... that one was of another level of reality, bro m' slowly getting it.
This is very disingenuous to particularly say that Mauryan empire was limited in geographical reach. Throughout ancient and even medieval history baring very few empires like Roman who were very central most empires like Mongolian empire, Persian, even mughal used to have weak central control over their occupied areas. The prime aim of expeditions was to extend your sphere of influence and collect taxes from your tributaries. Most of the times they didn't overthrow the conquered king or just install a kin of the king who pays tribute and were sometimes asked to mint coin in their names. The aim was not to run the conquered kingdom via a central control and interfere in their day to day workings but just to collect taxes and accept the other kingdom as their overlords as an honorary title which in return received protection from rival kingdoms. Ashoka edicts has been found all over the country right from Kandahar in Afghanistan to Amravati in Andhra to Dhauli in Orissa. Buddhism was spread in Sri Lanka by Ashoka's firstborn who was invited by the Lankan king. This selective narrative that Ancient Indian kingdoms which are deeply revered today as pan Indian kingdoms were rather just an exaggeration is deeply flawed and stinks of bias. Even the east india company model was federal and based on just friendly kings who allowed trade access monopoly until British queen took over.
The only conclusions we can draw from these new findings is that Ancient empires were more federal in nature and didn't have absolute central rule or law. As in to think their use to be some form of a Uniform civil code in ancient empires in itself is irrational.
Right!
They are judging it by today's standards! The state anywhere in the World wasn't so powerful, even when it was a monarchy!
It was only with the invention of the gun that state became so much powerful, creating a need to abolish monarchy and establish rule of law.
But back then, authority over a king was more like a MoU with one party at greater benefit which it could enforce through more hard power.
@@priyamawasthi6254 Not convinced if many men with swords were any less powerful than guns!! More over, we have no conclusive evidence if there were or there were not technologies/weapons that may have existed which were as powerful or more than guns!! Also, was gun powder not discovered by then??!!
Anyways, one thing is sure.. He is presenting a Marxist/Nehruvian COLONIAL history V2 which can be seen in the title!! The Mauryas were natives of this land!! The title must have been: "Did the Mauryas really UNITE all of India?" "Conquer" is the COLONIAL word par excellence NOT to use!!
Do you think roman were stable except pax romana ...roman was scattered & fragmented...
@@raghuls1515 Agree even roman empire was more federal than today's countries. I was just trying to put things into perspective of how selectively targeting some Indian empire for being federal is.
@@varunsingla4718 yes even during mauryan times the tamilakam was independent & rich ...
What was the reason for erecting the "rock edicts" in almost all corners of India?
If Ashoka did not control those lands , the rulers of the lands would have destroyed them, is it not ?
If he is not in control of the lands, then , what purpose was meant to be achieved?
Friendly rulers could be one explaination
Like how saudi govt is allowimg construction of a temple in saudi
@@bruhaspati560friendly kings? Bro did you see the content and tone of those edicts?
Using the same analogy just because everyone in India salutes the same flag - Tiranga, respects the same national anthem, does not mean that India is one political entity. You cannot abandon commonsense while studying history. The first thing a conqueror does after victory is erect emblems indicating that that land belongs to him/her. The Ashokan stupa is found practically everywhere.
If you were educated or had knowledge, you would know that political entries & nations as we know now are VERY recent developments!! A nation & civilzation can be UNITED by culture which was the case with all of Indian sub continent!!
The question is how many Ashoka edicts were made and how many have been discovered before you came on this decisive conclusion ,If not so then maybe in the next coming years of episode on same matter we may have other narratives.Dont stick to a particular point of view as it's the only one ,represent other also.
Correct!!
Definitely not, the Maurya empire did not include all parts of India.
Muslims untied the whole India and made it largest GDP by introducing justice and freedom in India
@@adma7298 haha nice joke
@@adma7298 Good Joke😂
@@adma7298 india got largest GDP from first century AD ( you can verify in Google ) before that records are not found
@@adma7298 The way u relate Muslims-gdp-freedom/justice-Maurya Empire tells me that , u r another one of the brain dead bhakts. For whom : 1 + 1 is not 2 but whatever you feel like. Living in hate has corrupted your brain.
Please continue to unpack well researched evidence on Indian history as a new momentum is propelling retelling it to suit the times
This is Marxist Nehruvian history V2 which can be seen in their title!!
1. The Mauryas were natives of this land!! The title must have been: "Did the Mauryas really UNITE all of India?" "Conquer" is the COLONIAL word par excellence NOT to use!!
2. Dharma (Hinduism/Buddhism..) is way above above & beyond mere religion!!
They may have been proselytizing BUT they did NOT do any genocides, destruction & forced conversions as done by Christianity & Islam that killed billions of people & destroyed native cultures all across the world including hundreds of millions of Hindus & Buddhists!!
Fake video😅
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Mauryas were local elite who had erected pillars in almost every part of the Indian Subcontinent.. wow
Not mauryas but Agents of the mauryas...
@@JohnNobody_and which king will allow agents of another king to erect edicts in his territories?
@@rajashashankgutta4334 The agents of the Mauryas in this region were likely local elites aiming to establish connections with new emerging networks. That is to say, the extreme centralization and influence from the Ashokan polity often boasted in propaganda writings, however impractical considering that world, is barely evident from the archaeological data. The presence of rock edicts in areas doesn't mean a political control or centralization, it's just too convenient interpretation. Anyways, I don't want to write a thesis on this in the comment section here. It's useless debating anything here. If you are really into archeology and history please do further research as it's an interesting subject. Just that there might be other things worthy of consideration. If you are some religious fanatic or andh bhakt, please don't waste your time as I'm not going to reply to anything now.
Have a good time. Bye
It is known that chandragupta maurya came doen soith and settled in Shravanabelagola. Which is deep down south. Would and Emperor come down to another kingdom not under thier control to be a ascetic
This is Marxist Nehruvian history V2 which can be seen in their title!!
1. The Mauryas were natives of this land!! The title must have been: "Did the Mauryas really UNITE all of India?" "Conquer" is the COLONIAL word par excellence NOT to use!!
2. Dharma (Hinduism/Buddhism..) is way above above & beyond mere religion!! They may have been proselytizing BUT they did NOT do any genocides, destruction & forced conversions as done by Christianity & Islam that killed billions of people & destroyed native cultures all across the world including hundreds of millions of Hindus & Buddhists!!
Fakers😂crying over their loss
@@ayushpratapsingh4357 Hain?
Yes you have a point 👍
Monks , ascetics roam freely before and after any number of empires
Chandragupta didn't came as king r conquerer to face resistance but as ascetic
Those times thiruvalluvar is also a monk In tamilnadu ever heard of thirukural
V welcome and appreciate saints sages poets for their knowledge b it from anywhere, every happend to read how tamil kings treat educated poets with huge riches not jus to sing praise of them by to appreciate and support knowledge and education
V 2 have relations with Greeks and Greek soldiers served as bodyguards and militants in pandya kingdom
Pandiyan nedumcheliyan gave humiliating defeat to bindhusara
Cholas put end to ashokas victory March and pushed back
If it not for idiots sundra pandiyan brothers fight among themselves ,malik Kapoor would not have entered South
Till that point South sucessfully defended and defeated empires n given hell for enemies
Arent you trying to fit History into modern political realities?
However, the question is How Did 'Brahmanism spread' in the sub continent.
From your analysis it seems 'Brahmanism', like Budhhism, had not 'spread' by 'Brahmin Deceit' afterall rather by Local Demand.
Btw, one of your most interesting episodes. Thanks.
He is trying that for a long time, he wanted to show that even Indians conquered other places so Muslims doing rhe same should not be a problem. But he forgets what treatment the mughals gave to local populace viz a viz cholas
The way Brahmanism spread across Subcontinent was completely different from how Islam spread. Sanskritisation is a more correct term than Brahmanism. 2 processes of Universalisation and parochialisation were involved in the 2 way interaction between brahmanical stream and local stream. Because the Vedic/Brahmanism was a vast pot from the beginning, it absorbed everything local cultures and beliefs had. And made them universal/bigger. Examples are Pooja of Santoshi mata, ritual of Govardhan/Gobardhan. Occupational categorisation, Worship of Shakti, tantric etc. There is concept of greater culture and little culture in socio-cultural anthropology. Brahmanism didn't forced the mainstream culture on people across lands. That's why you will see so many streams of Advaita, dvaita, vishisth Advaita, lingayat, ajivik, lokayat etc. It changed shape as per what people wanted it to be. Only time and people ( not Brahmanism itself) can be blamed for the ambiguity and confused history of originality and origin of Sanatan dharm. On the other hand, coercion, brutality and ethnocentrism( 'believing that my culture is better than yours' ) is evident in Islamic and Christianity propagation
@@millennialmind9507 Besides,
Tamils in Malay Peninsula and Sri Lanka arent going around propagating Regressive Religious Principles like the Deobandis and ilk do in the Indian Sub continent.
Total lack of Progressive thought amongst Islamic Scholarship and Clergy.
Just simple as it is.
By assimilating everything what it encountered in their way.
And it was pagan culture and that time all over indian subcontinent practising pagan culture. So it was very simple to assimilate elements and come out as a one Sanatana religion comprise of different believes.
Unlike abrahmic religions which exterminated everything they got in their way and established supremacy of their own belief.
He is saying exactly the opposite. He is saying that we should not see history through modern lens and Hindutva lens.
So by your own logic, nothing you say has any proof either. Boring.
You know you can interpret this and that by looking at the evidence as many times as you want to but Maurayas were perhaps one of the first ones in the past who have a heroic story ( there others in later times in south as well like Cholas, Pallavas and Rashtrakutas etc). My point is a story like of Chandrgupta Maurya and Ashoka inspire us to be courageous and benevolent so we should take pride in it that we had great civilizational culture filled High values associated with past rulers .
I'm amused, intrigued by this much emphasis on history in india like never before so much intrest and popularity among people to learn thanks to bjp in renarrating
Ancient Hindu rulers emperors never annihilated any community hence we see no where in the world people with their own language , customs, forest dwellers called adivasis, rural , village called grameen , town city dwellers nagarvasi while rest of the world we don’t see tribal life all has been killed genocide by colonizers ,minvaders converted by missionaries
Kindly substantiate your inferences and your opinions rather than making sweeping remarks/opinions.
Kindly read the video description where he's posted his sources before making sweeping statements about needing substantiation.
You'll believe one line IT cell WhatsApp messages which make outrageous claims like Indians invented aeroplanes 20,000 years ago, but when a historian makes a case and presents evidence, you'll make daft comments like this.
You should have covered the white washing of chandashokas image into this bhuddist pacifist by nehru and imperial historians. Merely being Buddhist did not mean the period was not extremely violent. This modern image of Buddhism of peacefulness and inclusion of castes is just baloney.
whithout even knowing the teachins of the buddha you are saying that it is wrong. buddha never preached any religion he was the opposite of any kind of indoctrination.
@@elliotalderson2007 You misunderstood me. Like the followers of Christ nothing but war like the followers of kind hearted budha were also warring. It's not a reflection of budhas teachings which are a gift to mankind
@@elliotalderson2007 buddha's teaching was piece of shit because of this type of chutiya philosophy, it ruined iindia. Both buddha and jain was the main culprit of iindia becoming a sslave nation .... we iindians are the son's and daughter's of warriors ( ram & krishna) whoever messes with us we will double, triple, quadruple ...to infinity mess with them ..... iindia will throw this chutiya philosophy for good and adopt chanakyas's philosophy of " saam, daam, dand, bhed" ....fucuk the idea of " vasudev kutumbakam".
@@elliotalderson2007not all buddhists follow the teaching of budda
why you don't say about Gupta dynasty & other Indian empire inscriptions and their locations only say about ashok's edicts and his empire.gupta and other Indian empire United india
Too much opinion from Print with too little evidence. 🤦 Rather bring historians on both side of opinions and discuss.
history is not both sideism but just history and facts. IDK why we are so obsessed with past. Our true national identity starts after Bengali and Marathi Hindu nationalists starts the dream of Modern day India.
You've just questioned the most widely accepted narrative of subcontinental history. Come to Delhi and see for yourself how deeply rooted this is in the Republic of India.
These colonized Marxists specialize in lies, mirch Massala & FAKE narrative building to fool people; just like Biden talks of subjective terms like freedom, democracy bla bla.. while Putin talks of real FACTS or at least quantitative, measurable & verifiable items!!
8 minutes of saying nothing.
The Mauryas and Guptas had loosely knit empires comprising of many autonomous regions.
Do u all have tendency to show some parts of india in thumbnail as holes in Mauryan rule? Do u despise the unity in thumbnail but forget it when it comes to Mughals
I think you need to study more especially Asoka's edicts and discoveries done by various historians rather than doing speculation about what Mauryan were and what not.
I love how the stack of books are placed on either side of this guy to make him seem smart and hide his incompetence and foolishness. He used terms like "complex" and "messy" to hide his shallow knowledge. These "popular" historians dont want to go into facts, they just focus on mirch masala and that too half baked
True 🥹
North Indians want to think kingdom which ruled in the north should represent entire India
In fact, They do represent as well. People from the south are still lagging behind. Although current center government is now supporting them.
@@free_soul9154 600 years of Muslim rule destroyed almost everything. North is now trying to catch up to their heritage and roots
@@free_soul9154 south indians lagging behind in north indians in what sense? literacy? economy? human development index?
@@free_soul9154 Are you delusion, seeing two of comments, I understand that your are detached from reality
@@accountforcommenting South Indians are behind in representation. Actor, actresses, Atheletes, Models like miss world miss universe. National Politics as well. In these areas they are way behind and need to come up
7:39 Buddhism was the sub-continents first great export? Anirudh... learn your damn history obviously Hinduism was the first great export, Buddhism spread to the Hindu kingdoms of SEA Asia....
What are you trying to get at? Ofcourse North Indian mauryan soldiers weren't roaming around South like a police state. There were levels to the administration and local chieftains pledge allegiance to the kings who did to their dynasties and so on. Mauryan empire clearly had a deep reach and ofcourse wasn't centralized but was impactful. In Indian context, we never had strong central political entities, we always worked as a union politically nonetheless we always had strong community and culture.
Then simply say that real India is = Dravidian/Tamilian
I really disagree Ashoka being lay Buddhist pushing proselytizing, he was deeply secular, even in the modern senses & that's why he could hold the large area of the sub continent for some time
Interesting video and well done. I think it would be more compelling and easier t follow if you'd also touched on what you're proposing were the boundaries and expanse of Ashoka's empire in his day. My sense is that southern boundary would have been the Kalinga empire and so perhaps no more than 1/2 of the Deccan at best. Probably less.
Of course - elements of soft power and power projection have a role in that era as they do now thereby expanding influence without Conquest.
No mention of Ashoka can be found in 18th century and earlier Indian texts. It was left to British historians to link all the inscriptions (in Pali and local languages) and thus "discoverr" Ashoka, who went by the name Devanampiya in the inscriptions.
This is Marxist/Nehruvian COLONIAL history V2 which can be seen in the title!!
The Mauryas were natives of this land!! The title must have been: "Did the Mauryas really UNITE all of India?" "Conquer" is the WRONG word par excellence, NOT to use!!
@@rka-truthalwayswins5127 lol it was the "Marxist/Nehruvian " due to him dharma chakra is in the center of our flag, ashoka's emblem is the emblem of India, peacock is our national bird and his daughter was named "Indira Priyadarshini"(Priyadarsha/Piyadassa/Piodasses was the title used by Ashoka and later Gautamiputra Satakarni).
@@witchilich BS!!
@@rka-truthalwayswins5127 what was bs in my comment? India was literally created with mauryan empire symbolism.
This information is wrong.ashok's major rock edicts showing his boundry of empire, Ashok's minor rock edicts show important cities of his empire,Ashok built stupas and some pillars erect near stupas, some pillars was erected on roadside
Ashoka might not governed whole subcontinent but was definitely sole polity without any competitor. Southern part of india definitely was untouched but it was primarily due to logistics. Also u didn't mention any local ruler . Mauryan came when northern India have mahajanpad or great republic.
Did Gupta & other Indian empire United india?only Ashok United whole Indian subcontinent.
No one united all of india
Mauryas were closest we got to our version of Qing empire .
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This is Marxist/Nehruvian COLONIAL history V2 which can be seen in the title!! The Mauryas were natives of this land!! The title must have been: "Did the Mauryas really UNITE all of India?"
"Conquer" is the WRONG word par excellence, NOT to use!!
Aniruddh recently criticized Marxist historians in his discussion with William Dalrymple at Calicut literature fest.
Just because you don't find it favourable, it won't become Marxist history.
@@thevilderblue So just because he criticized once the Marxists, he becomes the icon of truth??!! People like you should seek truth instead of blind ideology!!
Unlike empirical scientific study the academic historical study is mainly based on conjecture founded on highly selective, subjective ethnographical and historiographical materials and/or fragmentary archaeological finds. There is always a question of how reliable and valid the methodology being employed in this field of study. The suggestive report cannot rule out the underlying biases and preferential interpretations of particular historians holding a particular view.
Ashoka try to impose budhism on all hindus
Don't get carried away!! Dharma has several flavors!! I doubt if he was Dharmic; i.e real Hindu or Buddhist!! Even a Dharmic Japan had such a phase when one of their kings lost Dharma & got into imperialism & then 2nd. world war!!
It wasn’t as strict then . Emperor Harsha a Shivaite donated to Buddhist monastery
Thanks for presenting such topics to us! A brilliant piece.
Lolz!! Indians; especially Hindus are so gullible & easily manipulated on their own history!!
what brilliant !!! this librandus used to say aaryan invasion theory, they could not prove it and started to say aaryan migration theory , this librandus used to say saraswati river is a mythical river, this librandus used to say that sanskrit is a very new langauge not older than 600-700bce but we find artifact which prove the existence of sanskrit actually new version of sanskrit in syria and turkey atleast 1800 bce [ mittani empire ( kakulli artifact) however there communication language was different] , this librandus used to say buddha was born in 483 bce but recent discoery in lumbini prove that buddha was born atleast before 650-700bce, they used to claim that r1a1 haplogroup ( so called aaryan dna) is originated in europe however the highest diversity of r1a1 is found in iindia ........ this librandus never do original research they always copy paste foreigners.
This videos present an alternate account using the same artifacts but without any substantiation.
It’s clear that all these historians, their books and this video doesn’t have a coin, unless they provide alternate stories.
However it’s just another riff.
Yes, the alternate account tells us that the stories told so far are not the complete accounts. But I don’t see anything other than noise with the politics thrown in with slant.
If one strips off the “historical” superfluous account here, it’s clear that there is huge undercurrent of political messaging.
Downright shameful. Without an iota of erudition to move the needle in terms of knowledge of the past, such content fights propaganda with other set of false claims.
you seem to be creating north/south divide here by saying that north rulers were not great or superior but lord of the deccans were
Can you name these videos as thinking medieval please?
Ver well explained.
3:13 Tamil merchants concur China.....
Go and erect pillars and monuments in Beijing, China today , if you can , as a visitor.
Your argument , that Mauryan pillars which were found in south of Vindhyas, are no proof of Mauryan control of that region , has no logical basis. No foreign power is ever allowed to build monuments at will anywhere in the world, unless they control that region.
And then, you blissfully and conveniently ignore the written history from Jain and Buddhist texts which also provide ample information about the spread of Mauryan empire in that period.
Don't act like an historian if you are not one.
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Kuch bhi
@@saurabhtyagi8213 Kid 🤡😂
@@Myavepea kyon bhe nepali ? Chandragupta Maurya jain the & Bindusara Ajivika the yeh pataa hain ya nahin ?
@@ic9771 Abey lower IQ, Mauryan are Buddhist, I am Indian
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Fakers😂crying over their loss
This is simply the best show on the print channel. Great job Mr Kanisetti
i agree!
ur holy land is located in mmecca and desh bhakti is hharram in iislamb.....
Cut the clutter, national interest, security code and now thinking medieval are my favorites from the print
Does this guy have something against buddism
Loved your book 'Lords of Deccan' ( A must read ) looking forward to your video series.
He looks to be a colonized Marxist!! With this video I have doubts about his competence & truthfulness!! What was lovable in his book??
Did you compare his version of history with true, primary evidence & fact based history??!!
@@rka-truthalwayswins5127 he is a historian , just because he 'looks' a certain way, that does no diminsh his credibilities, likewise it would be wrong to judge u as a 'deadbeat sweaty virgin andhbhakt' ,who to hide his own insecurities tries projects a fake bravado like hindutva. Even though ur comment says otherwise . And also please do not melt your brain over history, Trust me you are way off buddy, u haven't even mentioned anything substansive. Anyways point is dont judge a book by cover, first read the fucking book
Fakers😂crying over their loss
@@ayushpratapsingh4357 If you arent interested in history, just leave history to the people who like it, and dont extend politics into it.
If this land was not united then what is and was Bharat?
@@danm7523 Tiny ? Then what is Bharat Varsh and Arya Varta? If only British defined this country then where was present day's Afghanistan.
@@free_soul9154 due to its geography and shared cultures and peoples indian subcontinent was looked upan as a single entity containing different kingdoms and polities
@@free_soul9154 Bharat Varsh and Arya Varta are made popular by TV serials. TV series is a fictional story developed from orginal Mahabharata.
History is record of politics, culture and economy. Mythology is mix stories, miracles and preaching's. Don't combine both.
@@danm7523 then what is Britain itself is illegitimate and illegal and so called usa any other countries because no border is constant and fixed name one country which have same border culture or people now European race have changing many people from Africa Asia have presence in Europe
Turkey latest border are nothing compare to Ottoman Empire
Muslims united whole India and made her largest GDP by religious freedom and social justice.
Great content
Is it necessary to make superfluous claims ? You Print folks are just another set of cheap shots hiding under the garb of false intellectualism.
Shekhar, we expect better from you and your team
To much words less of facts.
Great Seies
Your right sanatan dharma isn't just the solution for united india but united world
The world that lies in UP
@@arulsammymankondar30 then world of the commies and librandus then ?...
That's the beauty of Hinduism r Santa dhana dharma
When u create stories with mythical magical cg and in the end if u say moral and use the story as illustration( jathaka stories)
*Stands for sometime 🐩 jus as stories and dissolve
If big empire impose laws that it sees as the best thing and impose will strictly and moniters and punish offenders r collect fine
*Fear n fine mak them obey law r dharma r constitution till the empire collapse🤕
But if u say it's dharma create r upgrade existing stories r existing icon r rulling clan n make stories purans which r for philosophical explanation and r not fully historical evidence n if make a generation people believe worship those personality which r god like 🎉🎉
Over time keep adding one day , like when he's going here , r like stories inside stories inside stories TO IMPOSE LAWS R MORALS WHICH THE 1 WHO HAVE POWER OVER PURANS STORIES OR THE 1 IN AUTHORITY KEPP INSERTING THEIR 💩💩💩 AS MORALS LAWS DARRRMAS
( Like ram killing shudra for doing tapas and establish dar-ma , ....morals lik varnas can't do others jobs even if they can do better ... tonnes of 💩💩💩💩.. lik if braman xxx Sutra he may dip in river n gets cleansed but mak sure no property r education to this born , but if Sutra xxx braman he b chopped to pieces .... Don think those tonnes 💩💩💩💩 r god prescription but r made to retain position n power n maintain using fear of God ..)
* THEN THAT Constitution , law , dar-ma , will stand for as long as the culture lives AND future generations will AFRAID TO EVEN EDIT OR SAY ANYTHING AGAINST IT AS IT CONTAINS WISDOM 2 n ALSO v worship them as GODS
U don have to b against the religion but u say something as purely religious 💩 used for exploiting, unfair
Then self proclaimed patriots, bakths ,Santa dhana dharma people stamp u adarmi , anti hindu, anti whatever
Parathiyan matha ki j ( Parathiyan r Iranians not Indians)
All our purans r written in2ad which v claim to b 6000bc , where 2ad warrior fight 6000bc war
Our purans stories r not historical evidence, kept edited updated time and again juz lik Chinese update new borders now n then , they give the local rulers r chief too a role in the already famous epics where ever they go
Varna dama, EWS privilege, Kula education is not indian it's invaders traditions that mix with ours v become them
Sanskrit is not indian language it's invaders language
Didn't our scriptures say how they invaded India and call native as krishnas (black colour), speak different language ( not Sanskrit ), n how they destroyed their vak ( cut off their tongue r destroy books ) n taken 10s 1000s as shudra slaves .... Likes of babur
Mughals r Brits r not the only invaders , Mughals didn't accept ours god else they would have become satriyas , that's what v did to earlier invaders , that's how they get lineage of chandra, Indra ........upto their grandfather to say they r superior
@@urrasscal8380don know about that 1 but
See the beauty of Hinduism r Santa dhana dharma
When u create stories with mythical magical cg and in the end if u say moral and use the story as illustration( jathaka stories)
*Stands for sometime 🐩 jus as stories and dissolve
If big empire impose laws that it sees as the best thing and impose will strictly and moniters and punish offenders r collect fine
*Fear n fine mak them obey law r dharma r constitution till the empire collapse🤕
But if u say it's dharma create r upgrade existing stories r existing icon r rulling clan n make stories purans which r for philosophical explanation and r not fully historical evidence n if make a generation people believe worship those personality which r god like 🎉🎉
Over time keep adding one day , like when he's going here , r like stories inside stories inside stories TO IMPOSE LAWS R MORALS WHICH THE 1 WHO HAVE POWER OVER PURANS STORIES OR THE 1 IN AUTHORITY KEPP INSERTING THEIR 💩💩💩 AS MORALS LAWS DARRRMAS
( Like ram killing shudra for doing tapas and establish dar-ma , ....morals lik varnas can't do others jobs even if they can do better ... tonnes of 💩💩💩💩.. lik if braman xxx Sutra he may dip in river n gets cleansed but mak sure no property r education to this born , but if Sutra xxx braman he b chopped to pieces .... Don think those tonnes 💩💩💩💩 r god prescription but r made to retain position n power n maintain using fear of God ..)
* THEN THAT Constitution , law , dar-ma , will stand for as long as the culture lives AND future generations will AFRAID TO EVEN EDIT OR SAY ANYTHING AGAINST IT AS IT CONTAINS WISDOM 2 n ALSO v worship them as GODS
U don have to b against the religion but u say something as purely religious 💩 used for exploiting, unfair
Then self proclaimed patriots, bakths ,Santa dhana dharma people stamp u adarmi , anti hindu, anti whatever
Parathiyan matha ki j ( Parathiyan r Iranians not Indians)
All our purans r written in2ad which v claim to b 6000bc , where 2ad warrior fight 6000bc war
Our purans stories r not historical evidence, kept edited updated time and again juz lik Chinese update new borders now n then , they give the local rulers r chief too a role in the already famous epics where ever they go
Varna dama, EWS privilege, Kula education is not indian it's invaders traditions that mix with ours v become them
Sanskrit is not indian language it's invaders language
Didn't our scriptures say how they invaded India and call native as krishnas (black colour), speak different language ( not Sanskrit ), n how they destroyed their vak ( cut off their tongue r destroy books ) n taken 10s 1000s as shudra slaves .... Likes of babur
Mughals r Brits r not the only invaders , Mughals didn't accept ours god else they would have become satriyas , that's what v did to earlier invaders , that's how they get lineage of chandra, Indra ........upto their grandfather to say they r superior
Not even unifying our own.
May b to extend lik trigger religious emotions juz lik religious Pak and mix it with politics and mob run over WHOEVER in way
V discriminate and keep maintaining distance for every1 based on their birth,lineage , ...... ( nandhanar ... shivaji maharaj... ambedkar...)
Som can go near temple , while some inside , some inside further , not bcz of their profession but by birth others r denied that profession,the right
Even after amalgamating all faiths from jain budhist to local deities to Hinduism r Santa dhana dharma still that one never changes .
Till those 💩💩💩 r not removed it's no dhama jus dar- ma drama
There is a very troubling way in which this person wants to intrpret history very often he has an absolute hatred of Indian identiy and any kind of nationalism....it almost seems like his whole goal is not to present history but to deconstruct things based on his political leanings.
History has become a political battleground for these people.
Very nice lecture sir 👍
Muslims united India and started Indian golden age. They introduced social justice and religious freedom
Lol
By wnslabing, marauding and raping everything that these violemt bigoted morons saw in their way? Sure Ghazni and Ghauri and Nadir Shah are great examples. Are you guys even for real?
Religious Freedom🤣🤣🤣🤣. Your comedy doesn't stop🤣
Golden age of india was under Gupta's in North and cholas and Vijayanagara empire in south , muslim rule was dark age
There was no Hinduism, Sanathana Dharma or Bharat before 19th century.
Brahmin pundit didn't know about existence of Mauriyan Empire before excavation carried out by British archaeologist in 19th century.
there were attempts to destroy mauryan legacy and monks were mudered in large numbers , the priesthood did all they could .
@@elliotalderson2007 says who a converted rice bag??
like babur read baburnama
Indian subcontinent muslim are usually converted from Hindu lower caste and most of the Muslim in asia are never rule india this is also a historical facts then Why u support mughals we know mughals are Central Asian tribe
@@akshaysen6778 You are right. But here discussion is going on to belittle the achievement of Mauriyan Empire about which brahmin pundit didn't know anything about it till British Archaeologist discovered it. So-called brahmin scholars didn't know that there was an emperor called Asoka.
हिंदी बोलो अंग्रेज बन रहे हो
Tamil bolo
@@orkkojit koi bhi Indian language me bolo.....English nahi
Kannada bolo..
Telugu bolo
Malayalam bolo