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This machine is gorgeous. I never met the synthex in person but whoever designed it thinks the same way as I do. I love the GX-80 but it's taking forever to get my head around it. This, just fits. Straight in. Well done Cherry Audio.
Another superb vintage recreation to add to my collection alongside the Mercury 4, Miniverse, DCO-106 and Surrealistic MG-1 Plus. Infinitely usable and musical instruments.
It's my favorite out of all Cherrys VSTi and I like the PS-20 to! I would of like the ability to mix two already made presets together instead of having to build from scratch. Cheers...
Thanks for this detailed walk through of the layering. I had been spending little time on it, but not really grasped how to craft with it. More videos like this please!
I knew about this synth but never looked at one, probably because I already owned a Jupiter 8! The Elka reminds me a lot of the Roland, especially the panel layout style. First thing tomorrow morning I'll be buying this! 😎
I would say so, yes. I have that one and it just doesn’t have a pleasing tone, i never use it. It’s not terrible, but this version nails the filter quality much better. I’ve never played an actual Synthex, but this one sounds like a 3320 filter, the XILS one doesn’t really nail it.
I own 90% of the synths Cherry Audio makes. Took a chance on a whim years ago and been a fan of Cherry Audio every since. Absolutely love all of them especially Dreamsynth. However, I would like to know if Cherry Audio will ever make a faithful patch for patch recreation of the legendary Prophet 5?
@@TeddyLeppard Indeed it almost doubles up as a second Prophet. I use Rev 4, for master keyboard work and can't help turning both volumes up for a super megga synth fest. The Elka X filter section complements the Prophet poly mod section very well.
Hi Cherry Audio devs, I'm curious about something: would it be a huge hassle to make two audio outs, one for each layer? That way, one could throw a bit crusher on a lead layer, but not have it destroy the soft pad on the other layer, for example. I know I could just duplicate the instrument and do it separately, but that would defeat the purpose of having two layers. Anyway, I appreciate you guys and am really inspired by this thing.
Since it all currently goes through the single mixer and is architected there to model the Synthex, this would not be easy and would require a rethink on the UI. We’ll pass on the suggestion, but for now that would be best accomplished in a DAW or host, two instances of the same preset, one with layer solo on upper and the other with layer solo on lower, and your own effects into the chain of one.
Could you give us an example? Is it something you could do bt creating a custom control in our MIDI panel? If you need any help, drop Support a line at cherryaudio.kayako.com/conversation/new
@@CherryAudiovst yeah for example in a live situation where you are using both layers, one panned to the L & the other panned to the R, and you wanna play with the filter or maybe just the envelope filter. It would be cool just link those in both layers so you only have to controle one layer.
May not be exactly the answer you're looking for, but you can easily route a MIDI hardware controller to the same parameter for both layers using the MIDI controllers tab.
You can do that by installing VST's into a host program such as Pluginguru Unify. Unify has virtual macro knobs that you can assign to cc's.. each macro knob can then be assigned to how ever many parameters you choose (doesn't have to be limited to one synth or one layer, so long as Cherry have implemented two layered controls it will be picked up in a list of parameters to assign to the macro knob. If you have different ranges of movement (different min and max values per parameter) then you can also assign the same cc to another virtual macro knob and design that knob to affect that particular parameter. So more than one macro knob will move when you use your hardware slider/knob assigned to that cc. Nice thing about having cc's on macro knobs is that there are some MIDI automation software out there so you can design a looped manipulation of the cc values.
@@GlenJDiamond To be clear, you can do all of this within Elka-X's MIDI tab (macro/mult a hardware controller knob to multiple parameters and set min/max amount and curve independently for each parameter) without using an outside host, and it's super duper easy to do. Obviously you can't control multiple instruments from one place, but there's nothing stopping you from assigning the same MIDI controller source to multiple Cherry instruments (the MIDI assign tab is basically identical across all of our instruments).
At this time we remain exclusively focused on software, and doing what we can to make it great with existing controllers (like our MIDI learn and mapping features, with both global and preset based mapping)
It’s really nice you did this software recreation but I think the sound is too sterile comparing to original hardware. You should work upon this issue.
Someone should tell Cherry Audio that 1 in 12 men is colour-blind (me included). It would be very helpful if the Layer LEDs could be blue and green, or blue and red, or anything other than red and green (perhaps an option in a setup dialogue?)
Comment valid and passed on to the development team, thank you. We will see what we can do to implement accessibility options for this and future software.
Hi Dillon, I previously argued I was ok with CA's 7bit MIDI. With most of the CA synths, it is only marginally noticeable and has not been an issue for me. With the Ella, filter, I hear the jumps between midi values a lot more. Maybe im getting more nuanced in my listening, or maybe its because the Ella has such an cool squishy filter. Either way, yes, I would like to see 14bit midi introduced.
I love what CA have done with the Elka-X. At 11 minutes you mention 'Factory Presets'. Usually this refers to the original hardware presets, but the don't seem to be any specific Synthex presets in Elka-X apart from the 'Laser Harp' sound. Am I missing something?
No, Tim's just using the term, but he means the presets that come with Elka-X. Other than 4-6 (Ring Mod aka Laser Harp), we have not replicated the Synthex factory presets. We are looking into the possibility of adding these in the future. They all have to be created by ear.
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Part 1: ua-cam.com/video/6qJgP9j5w-w/v-deo.html
Part 3: ua-cam.com/video/jJL8k7cHpuM/v-deo.html
Elka-X Synthesizer: ua-cam.com/video/M0X7vKww6rg/v-deo.html
Want to see more videos like this for our products, old and new? Let us know below, and subscribe!
This machine is gorgeous. I never met the synthex in person but whoever designed it thinks the same way as I do. I love the GX-80 but it's taking forever to get my head around it. This, just fits. Straight in. Well done Cherry Audio.
13:25 ARGH the unisons! Beautiful
Another superb vintage recreation to add to my collection alongside the Mercury 4, Miniverse, DCO-106 and Surrealistic MG-1 Plus. Infinitely usable and musical instruments.
That melody line played on the vector survives preset was so inspiring. So inspiring. I ❤ this synth
Nice job as always Tim well done :)
Superb tutorial. I couldn't work out how to import patches into a layer.... time well spent, thank you!!!
Watch this morning very useful information thank you.
The "double" capability is very nice! It is similar to the architecture of the Yamaha CS80.
It's my favorite out of all Cherrys VSTi and I like the PS-20 to! I would of like the ability to mix two already made presets together instead of having to build from scratch. Cheers...
Thanks for this detailed walk through of the layering. I had been spending little time on it, but not really grasped how to craft with it. More videos like this please!
Love the range of that unison detune... 👍
Excellent review, you sold me, that synth has a beautiful sound.
Sold it to me. I am going to get this… it sounds great. 🤘😎
I knew about this synth but never looked at one, probably because I already owned a Jupiter 8! The Elka reminds me a lot of the Roland, especially the panel layout style. First thing tomorrow morning I'll be buying this! 😎
Love the synth!!!!!!
Thank you. I am loving this synth!
great tutorial...amazing instrument...part 3 tomorrow 😅
is it more accurate than the XILS one?
I would say so, yes. I have that one and it just doesn’t have a pleasing tone, i never use it. It’s not terrible, but this version nails the filter quality much better. I’ve never played an actual Synthex, but this one sounds like a 3320 filter, the XILS one doesn’t really nail it.
thanks
@@sub-jec-tiv
I own 90% of the synths Cherry Audio makes. Took a chance on a whim years ago and been a fan of Cherry Audio every since. Absolutely love all of them especially Dreamsynth. However, I would like to know if Cherry Audio will ever make a faithful patch for patch recreation of the legendary Prophet 5?
Sorry, we never talk about what’s not been announced or released. All we can say is “plenty more to come!”
@@CherryAudiovst with the chip shortage, best not to give up false hope...
Btw, my wish list item is a cs-80
You can actually achieve some remarkably close to Prophet 5 sounds with this synth. I've been surprised by its flexibility so far.
@@TeddyLeppard Indeed it almost doubles up as a second Prophet. I use Rev 4, for master keyboard work and can't help turning both volumes up for a super megga synth fest. The Elka X filter section complements the Prophet poly mod section very well.
@@thebadterrorists5323 this makes me slightly jealous...
Hi Cherry Audio devs, I'm curious about something: would it be a huge hassle to make two audio outs, one for each layer? That way, one could throw a bit crusher on a lead layer, but not have it destroy the soft pad on the other layer, for example. I know I could just duplicate the instrument and do it separately, but that would defeat the purpose of having two layers.
Anyway, I appreciate you guys and am really inspired by this thing.
Since it all currently goes through the single mixer and is architected there to model the Synthex, this would not be easy and would require a rethink on the UI. We’ll pass on the suggestion, but for now that would be best accomplished in a DAW or host, two instances of the same preset, one with layer solo on upper and the other with layer solo on lower, and your own effects into the chain of one.
Is the sequencer going to be covered in Part 3? I'd really like to see that before I buy.
Absolutely, that and the arp deserved their own episode. Stay tuned!
Got about 4 notes into the trial and the noise cuts in and never stops. Reloaded the plugin in my daw, and tried both vst2 and 3 - same result.
Top man Tim. I bought this synth on the strength of your last video, so I'm really looking forward to delving into it.
I´d love to be able to link any button or knob between layers
Could you give us an example? Is it something you could do bt creating a custom control in our MIDI panel? If you need any help, drop Support a line at cherryaudio.kayako.com/conversation/new
@@CherryAudiovst yeah for example in a live situation where you are using both layers, one panned to the L & the other panned to the R, and you wanna play with the filter or maybe just the envelope filter. It would be cool just link those in both layers so you only have to controle one layer.
May not be exactly the answer you're looking for, but you can easily route a MIDI hardware controller to the same parameter for both layers using the MIDI controllers tab.
You can do that by installing VST's into a host program such as Pluginguru Unify. Unify has virtual macro knobs that you can assign to cc's.. each macro knob can then be assigned to how ever many parameters you choose (doesn't have to be limited to one synth or one layer, so long as Cherry have implemented two layered controls it will be picked up in a list of parameters to assign to the macro knob. If you have different ranges of movement (different min and max values per parameter) then you can also assign the same cc to another virtual macro knob and design that knob to affect that particular parameter. So more than one macro knob will move when you use your hardware slider/knob assigned to that cc. Nice thing about having cc's on macro knobs is that there are some MIDI automation software out there so you can design a looped manipulation of the cc values.
@@GlenJDiamond To be clear, you can do all of this within Elka-X's MIDI tab (macro/mult a hardware controller knob to multiple parameters and set min/max amount and curve independently for each parameter) without using an outside host, and it's super duper easy to do. Obviously you can't control multiple instruments from one place, but there's nothing stopping you from assigning the same MIDI controller source to multiple Cherry instruments (the MIDI assign tab is basically identical across all of our instruments).
Have you guys ever though about bringing out a custom MIDI controller?
Nothing fancy, just something that would help with your plugins.
At this time we remain exclusively focused on software, and doing what we can to make it great with existing controllers (like our MIDI learn and mapping features, with both global and preset based mapping)
@@CherryAudiovst yeah makes sense.
It’s really nice you did this software recreation but I think the sound is too sterile comparing to original hardware. You should work upon this issue.
Someone should tell Cherry Audio that 1 in 12 men is colour-blind (me included). It would be very helpful if the Layer LEDs could be blue and green, or blue and red, or anything other than red and green (perhaps an option in a setup dialogue?)
Comment valid and passed on to the development team, thank you. We will see what we can do to implement accessibility options for this and future software.
Another option would be to implement double LED buttons. I.e. instead of changing color of one LED, it would switch the currently lit LED.
I dig the synth. Would be an instant purchase if cpu usage was better.
Please, make a hardware digital Elka X, 96kHz sample rate and 14 bit high resolution midi
Hi Dillon,
I previously argued I was ok with CA's 7bit MIDI. With most of the CA synths, it is only marginally noticeable and has not been an issue for me. With the Ella, filter, I hear the jumps between midi values a lot more. Maybe im getting more nuanced in my listening, or maybe its because the Ella has such an cool squishy filter. Either way, yes, I would like to see 14bit midi introduced.
Xils-Labs should learn from Cherry Audio how to make a tutorial
I love what CA have done with the Elka-X. At 11 minutes you mention 'Factory Presets'. Usually this refers to the original hardware presets, but the don't seem to be any specific Synthex presets in Elka-X apart from the 'Laser Harp' sound. Am I missing something?
No, Tim's just using the term, but he means the presets that come with Elka-X. Other than 4-6 (Ring Mod aka Laser Harp), we have not replicated the Synthex factory presets. We are looking into the possibility of adding these in the future. They all have to be created by ear.
Absolument inutilisable sur un MacBook Pro 14 pouces !!On ni voit rien à 50 cm de l’écran !
Faites des onglets comme arturia c’est pas compliqué.C’est malheureux on fait de la musique et on se fatigue plus les yeux que les oreilles !!!!