Energia Vulkan Moon Rocket
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- Опубліковано 1 кві 2024
- The Energia Vulkan design was the largest of the Energia concepts with eight Zenit booster rockets and an Energia-M core as the upper stage, the Vulkan (which shared the name with another Soviet heavy lift rocket that was cancelled years earlier) configuration was initially projected to launch up to 200 metric tonnes into 200 km orbit with inclination 50.7°
The development of the Vulkan and the refurbishment of Universal Test Stand and Launch Pad at site 250 for its launches was in progress between 1990-1993 and abandoned soon after due to a lack of funds and the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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This is the greatest irony that for a mission to the Moon individualist americans united together to make an Apollo Program (Boeing, Douglas, Grumman, Rockwell etc.) and collectivist soviets split their teams into different projects to choose the only one winner. I would like to see an alternative version that Yangel proposed where Korolev makes the spaceship, Chelomey makes the lunar module and Yangel makes the rocket.
Just goes to show you that collectivism doesn't always result in organic solidarity or genuine unity(hence why I left my background culture for good). But ideologies aside, it'd be sick to see the UR-700 launching a Yangel-designed upper stage with the lunar complex designed by Korolev- though they sorta had that when Korolev was willing to put a stripped down Soyuz craft(Zond) and the Block D upper stage atop a Proton rocket- a hypergolic one by Chemolei, and Korolev hated hypergolic propellants!
Причина не в этом. Надеюсь, Гугл переведет корректно. СССР поздно начал готовить ракеты и корабли для полёта на Луну. Отставание от США было примерно 3 года. Королев не хотел лететь на Луну. Его мечтой был Марс. Для этого он строил свою ракету Н-1. Когда правительство СССР поставило задачу высадить человека на Луну, у советов не было ничего. Не было ракеты, корабля, лунного модуля. Тогда ведущие конструкторы предложили свои проекты. Янгель - ракету Р-56, Челомей - ракету УР-700. Но победил проект Королёва - ракета Н-1. Но было уже поздно. США готовили облёт Луны с астронавтами. Королев уже умер в 1966 году. Других идей не было. СССР пытался опередить США и облететь Луну с помощью ракеты Протон Челомея и корабля Союз в лунном варианте 7К-Л1. Но не получилось. Ракета Протон была ненадёжная, часто взрывалась. А советские космонавты были готовы на риск. Поэтому правительство не разрешило облетать Луну космонавтам. И правильно сделали. Потому что Протон, на котором готовы были лететь космонавты, взорвался на старте. Затем 4 раза взрывалась лунная ракета Н-1 в испытательных пусках. И СССР признал поражение и отказался от лунной гонки.
@@user-he3ok3iq6vdon’t worry, it got translated correctly. Thanks for the explanation!
Partly, it was because the Soviet collectivist system, with the various bureaus, teams, & projects, there still was competition. And competition is always over incentives or "a prize." The honor, the achievement, personal reputation, power, or influence.
And in any Meritocracy, even a functional one that's not just in name only, the fatal flaw is it almost immediately selects not the "best people for the purpose" but "people best at navigating the Meritocracy." And that's true in any Meritocracy, how the Soviets practice it, or the West & USA did.
The difference is that in the Capitalist system, or semi-capitalist, government contracting with bids, proposals, etc. Adding money & profits into the mix, besides issues of prestige.
Obviously, money, profits, and bids can all easily be corrupted or select for "not the best things" too. But, the more metrics and goals a Meritocracy has, plus the more open or transparent they might be, the more they provide checks and balances on each other.
And Meritocratic things like money, profit, can make individuals cooperate and overcome issues of ego, and lesser recognition as "part of the team" and not the sole hero.
In that regard, Korolev was simply put, a stubborn venal asshole. He was not a scientist, nor was he an engineer. He was a "manager." And he had a successful reputation for "getting things done" in regards to artillery & weapons procurement and logistics during WWII.
Then, after the successes of Sputnik and Vostok that put the USA on its heels, Korolev was untouchable. And there was nothing that could force him to collaborate or work cooperatively with any other bureaus, projects, or directors. And he actively feuded with some of them, sometimes rather one-sidedly on his part, as part of the overall background of "Soviet politics." And the factions and internecine warfare that's often endemic in one-party systems.
And somewhat arguably, Korolev got lucky with the R7 rocket that created the early Soviet successes. "Lucky" in that the designs, engineers, and scientists under him he chose, worked out. And the R7 and the boosters derived from it that Russia still uses frequently to this day, benefitted from a certain amount of "Kalashnikov-like" robustness and KISS-principle reliability. All the while, the USA was somewhat lost in "The high-tech weeds" for a time.
Although, in America's defense of that period of the space race, they were trying more advanced things, like tank pressure supported rockets, or more ambitious gimbaled engines for control, and cryogenic propellants & LOX, over hyperbolic nitric acid/hydrazine combinations.
And of course, none of the failures were hidden. They made TV news & Saturday matinee movie newsreel.
And yes, the Soviets were behind on the Moon, partly because the Soviets didn't immediately accept or see it as a capstone or "finish line" to the space race. If JFK ambitiously set it as a goal to make it the prize, it's not unwise to try and reject the premise. However, if a majority worldwide start viewing it ad such, you may have no choice.
Partly, the problem was that the robust KISS of the R7 family & Vostok, then Soyouz, did not translate well to a Moon mission. To a degree you HAD to try and navigate those "high-tech weeds" without being lost.
And for America and NASA, that played out in things like the Rocketdyne F1 engine, learning sophisticated docking, unlocking, & rendezvous in orbit, and the first integrated circuit/microchip computers, the AGC that both the Command Module Capsule and the Lunar Lander carried.
Had Korolev's choice on the N1 booster worked out, the rest of the Soviet mission architecture was... somewhat "sketchy" to say the least.
Only two Cosmonauts, as opposed to three Astronauts on Apollo. The Soviets had only electromechanical navigation equipment to perform the needed very precise timing and accuracy needed for Lunar insertion, Earth return, and rendezvous/capture of the LK lander as it lifted back off the Moon. Also, the LK lander, also devoid of a full blown digital computer, put far more stress on the lone Cosmonaut. And the LK's capacity, life support duration, and fuel margins were TINY as compared to the Apollo LEM. There was room for the Cosmonaut, a Soviet flag, and he could return with perhaps 20 kilos of rock samples. That was it. Added to it, the life support endurance was only 24 hours. Which gave very little margin for making a rendezvous launch window. Assuming the Soviet Soyuz 7K-LOK with the other Cosmonaut was in a similar orbit to what the Apollo CM & SM were, of roughly 120 minutes, and inclination plus the Moon's rotation, albeit slow, didn't make that even more difficult.
Some do harp on the Saturn V's first stage of 5 enormous F1 engines vs. the N1's 30 smaller ones as the "big problem" but that's overly simplistic. Those 30 engines had far more specific impulse than the F1's did. The multiple sets of plumbing was more difficult, especially before modern late-20th century computers and fluid dynamic simulation of startup/shutdown shocks. And 30 sets of smaller pipes and engines can indeed eat up weight & mass-fraction faster than five enormous ones would.
And yes, the Soviets had no technical base capable of producing anything like the F1 engines or the AGC, and its first Fairchild microchips.
However, the N1's 30 engines, and no AGC equivalent were not the ultimate show stoppers. It was more detailed things, like the N1 needed single use pyrotechnic burst-disk valves to fire on startup. This prevented any sort of integrated pad testing or static fires that could have revealed problems quicker. And the aspects of being behind America, and the "culture of fear" that both the Soviet system simultaneously creates, and eliminates to its detriment, and Korolev himself, created haste, and a poor "safety culture" that resulted in things like a first stage attitude control system being installed upside-down, and a catastrophic pad explosion that killed and maimed many ground crew members.
With Korolev's death soon after, the whole project was left rudderless, even if only to be driven incorrectly.
In comparison, it is important to be clear that the "American System" IS NOT PERFECT. If it was, we would not have suffered 30 years of overly expensive, complicated, and ultimately deadly, "Shuttle Malaise" that only saw 135 lsunches, including Challenger and Discovery disasters.
And that was largely born of institutional hopium/wishful thinking, pork politics, bean-counting, and the absolute mother of all "sunk cost fallacies."
However, in the time of Project Apollo, the competition and cooperation resulted in success. And in notable instances, ideas like the mission design of the multi piece docking and rendezvous mission, with the CM, SM, & LEM that seem "obvious" now, were not back then. And important and influential people in positions of leadership, including Wherner VonBraun himself, were advocating other designs, like a one piece upper stage that was the crew command module & lander. But the Apollo we got won out, because it was the best at that time.
@@andrew32155в целом с вами согласен. Да, Королёв был диктатором. Но он давал результат. Да, он не был гениальным учёным или конструктором. Но он сумел собрать и сплотить гениальных конструкторов в Совет главных конструкторов. Да, он был, как сейчас принято говорить, менеджером. Но талантливым менеджером. И после его смерти, к сожалению, в СССР не нашлось второго Королева. Сменивший его Мишин был слишком слабым и не авторитетным. А сменивший Мишина Глушко просто мстил королевскому наследию. Да, внутренняя вражда между конструкторами мешала общему делу. Но двигала прогресс. У каждого были свои оригинальные ракеты и корабли. Да, СССР все равно бы проиграл лунную гонку из-за низкой технологичности. Но потом догнал США в проекте Энергия-Буран. Это был прорыв как в плане ракеты Энергия (многоразовые боковые ступени, выводимая масса 105 тонн) и двигателей (кислородно-водородный РД-0120, кислородно-керосиновый РД-170), так и в плане корабля Буран (космический планер с возможностью управляемой посадки, масса выводимого груза 30 тонн и другие выдающиеся характеристики).
Я только не понял про взрыв и жертвы. При Королёве на взрывах ракет жертв не было. При взрывах Н-1 жертв не было. Все люди находились в укрытиях и не пострадали. А взрыв с жертвами был перед стартом ракеты Р-16 конструкции Янгеля 24 октября 1960 года. Тогда погибли 78 человек и более 100 ранены. После трагедии были сделаны выводы, и таких трагедий больше на Байконуре не было. Благодарю вас за подробный рассказ и приведенные точные технические характеристики. Респект )
The quality is actually insane
I feel the same way, I've watched movies that weren't this good.
Your animations are always better than the last. This is insane. Love the stuff
(I love how kerbal soviet rockets are)
You must see the ur-900, probably the most kerbal soviet rocket design
Всё верно, вот только пуски Энергии осуществлялись не с площадки типа ,,Лоток,, под Союзы, а с площадки ранее предназначавшиеся для запуска тяжёлых Лунных ракет Н1, и назывались они -Стартовая площадка 110/37 и 110/38, но для Бурана была построена специальная третья площадка с нуля №250 с тремя газоотводами !
Прекрасное видео, спасибо Автор !!!
My favorite rocket! Thank you for this amazing animation!
I also like it
It also my favourite rocket
Another simply masterful render of a grand concept. You keep outdoing yourself!
Great video. Definitely love the imagining of past programs that got cancelled or stalled. The thing with Zenit is that a bad first stage failure did occur in October of 1990, wrecking a launch pad (so two years after the only flight of Buran). Basically, it took a bit while longer than expected for the Soviets (and Russians and Ukrainians) to iron things out with the RD-171/RD-170 engines and the Zenit booster.
Note, that in 1980 there were 16 test firings of RD-170 that were "less than satisfactory"...and in June 1982 there was a massive explosion, which "raised serious questions about the fundamental design of the RD-170/171" (source for these points: pg 260 of "Energiya-Buran: The Soviet Space Shuttle"). The first completely successful launch of Zenit took place in October 1985 (almost 6 years late, according to that book, Energiya-Buran (see page 407)).
As for money, at the end of 1989 the Soviets conceded that they had spent 14 billion rubles over thirteen years, on testing and development of Energiya/Buran.
Nice work. Congrats.
That thing looks like a gigantic version of the McDonnell Douglas Delta 2, the one with the nine solid rocket motors strapped to the first stage.
Hopefully, at some point, you could animate the uprated Saturn Vs with NERVA and solid rocket boosters used to support the Mars missions planned to follow Apollo.
Every time I watch one of your videos, I think to myself "there is no way they'll outdo themselves" then you go and do this
my god I thought I was looking a real modeling not graphics, well done
Nice job with the David Lynch Dune music.
Amazing job!Amazing rocket!
Very beautiful video!❤
Love these great ideas made into your videos. Cheers 👍💪✌
AWESOME work!
Fantastic animation, as ever. What's the first song?
Don't stop there! I want to see the payload it carries!
Most probably a LEK lunar lander or modules for the Zvezda base (LZM, LZhM or the L5 Lunokhod).
There’s also a chance of a massive lunar crewed orbiter.
Besides these, they didn’t have other concrete plans, as far as I know. (So they knew that it could lift massive stations, but didn’t plan on it).
There was also a Hercules variant and a few other modifications to have it reach Mars.
Very good
Master piece 👏🏼👏🏼
That's some nice upfgrades in graphics quality.
Wish we could see a 3rd person view of that 8 booster separation
Super
This design would work well! The N1 basic design was flawed beginning with the cone shape and spherical fuel/LOX tanks. The 33 engines has been shown by SpaceX to be workable.
THIS is the KSP 2 we deserved.
I wonder if we would have seen this flown if the USSR didn't collapse. They already had the first stage and the boosters as Energia was already developed and the upper stage already had its engines developed (RD-57 IIRC). Really the "only" thing left was to build the upper stage tanks, payload adapter and fairing.
Then again, we thought the same regarding the Space Shuttle and SLS yet that was became an extremely expensive mess so maybe not 😂
The volcano was made with an eye on Mars.
It was supposed to use it to launch modules of an interplanetary spacecraft with a nuclear engine.
2:13 beau travail !
This ones got a real "If Gerry Anderson did the S/Fx for James Bond" feel to it. Ruddy Awesome!
Did you use different render settings, lighting, or atmospherics?
I was just thinking the same. But thinking, I could imagine the same scene, but with Thunderbird 3 replacing the Vulcan.
This type of imagery for a Thunderbird series, would be better than the Peter Jackson's Weta Workshop Graphics that they used for the 'cartoon' Thunderbird series.
I have just recently started watching the YT Channel 'Gerry Anderson' with his son Jamie Anderson as one of the hosts.
Nice diorama! Will you still be doing CGI?😁
Let the next video be a flight of the UR-900
It would be good to see animationsof those rockets trasnporting people or cargo to the moon or mars
I’d ha e loved to have seen this bird fly!
Is this from the Thunderbirds?
We need another SSTO like the Bono Saucer next
The music is based on Danny Elfman's music from the movie "Scrooged" where he ripped off Toto's music from David Lynch's version of "Dune" so if anybody says it's a rip-off -it was a rip-off from the beginning.
It's very interesting what shows up after a period of time. I was stunned to find out that Alexander Graham Bell was a rip-off of a filed patent 'telephone', which the poor original inventor struggled to get compensation for and never really did before he died.
As for another 'song' rip-off, it was Achy Breaky Heart and I think the original artist struggled to get his just compensation.
I am sure there will be many more.
that booster staging looks dangerous. why does it hinge on the tip before seperating instead of using tiny thruster to seperate like soyuz?
amazing render btw
This is precisely how the Soyuz does it's separation. The bottom of the boosters are released as the thrust pushes the bottoms out, hinging upwards till they slip out of a mechanical release that also creates a mechanical fuel cutoff to the booster's engine. The R7's have used the exact same system since the very first ICBM. A failure of it caused a Soyuz abort a year or two back.
@@ralterdrake556 oh ok. thx for the info
2:50 tell the name of a music at this moment
KOROLEV's CROSS ON A MOON ROCKET.
Now I can die in peace... 🫡
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At first, looked like a set from Thunderbirds.
2:40 Anyone knows the song name?
Ура
хорошо
I think a Proton on steroids for a Moon mission is better than a giant cone with an overly complex first stage guidance system for the time, rip the N-1’s guidance computer, it tried its best. This seems more sensible.
No, the UR-700 was a tragedy in the making.
@@oliwierkwiatkowski8817 this isn’t the UR700
@@judet2992 I never said it is.
You mentioned the Proton on steroids, which is the UR-700.
@@oliwierkwiatkowski8817 fair
@@judet2992This has nothing in common with Proton.
That's what does going Full Kerbal means
That's a lot of burnt up light bulbs
Next time. You should show from a human view point from the ground looking at the rocket; either sitting on the pad or as it lifts off into outer space.
Если не ошибаюсь, первая ступень многоразовая и должна садиться на аэродром. Будет ли продолжение?
Thinking of this version? / Думаете об этой версии?
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No, this Vulkan variant wasn’t supposed to be reusable, at least the core stage wouldn’t be.
Maybe the boosters, in the same manner of Energia.
да, я их перепутал
ok... not bad...
What kind of playground is this? Definitely not Baikonur
Where's second stage? 💀
Plumes aren’t fast enough
Thought this footage was real
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Shut up babe, he just uploaded!
А музон как будто ракета наполнена кузькиными матерьми и летит в ад.
Мультфильм
Glory to the Great Soviet Union!!! 🚩🚩🚩
❤Mother lend ❤️