Are Sgian Dubh Edges Sharp?
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- What is a Sgian Dubh?
Can you cut with a Sgian Dubh? Or is a Sgian Dubh just a ceremonial knife?
Where can I get a custom Sgian Dubh?
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I had mine custom made by a friend who's an award winning kitchen knife maker - it is absolutely stunning - It's insanely sharp, but mostly it's a work of art.
If it's a knife it should be sharp, if it ain't sharp it's just a pretty piece of steel.
A friend of mine once had a REALLY functional sgian dubh: instead of a blade it had a bottle opener.
I’ve seen those called sgian bru (or brew), personally I think they make a great gag gift albeit a little pricy
Sounds like it might be TSA safe
Yep, I’m an EDC guy! 😎👍
I made my own with a tool steel blade and a handle made from entwined wild grape vine.
The blade is tough enough to carve stainless and mild steel blades with but I haven't ground a sharp edge on it (Why do I need to? the Clan wars are long finished). I vinegar etched the blade to give it a sort of "anodized look and (carefully) ground through the finish along the edge to give the illusion of "sharp". A few weeks back, I showed it to a Veteran buddy (Special Forces type) who showed me how to dispatch Saxons 4 different ways with my blunted sgain dubh. Apparently, the intertwined vines results in a superior grip ...
I am a 'knife guy' I guess. I see no sense in carrying a knife that doesn't cut. Bought my sgian in the 1980s. It has a nice stag handle with sterling fittings and a surgical stainless steel blade. Holds an edge for an insanely long time, and is very handy when the party 'retires' to smoke a cigar, or someone requires a knife but doesn't have one. But, as you point out, it's a matter of personal preference.
Wore my Scottish gear to a friend's wedding (it was encouraged), and at the recption found the meat a bit tough. Out came my sharp sgian dubh, and the day was saved!
Mine is. Polished antler handle and sharp enough to shave with.
Personally I prefer a plain appearance, but actually usable.
Because of where it’s worn, though, I’m more likely to use the slipjoint in my sporran IRL.
My brother forged me a sgian dubh in Damas steel, thats beautiful and sooo sharp ... maybe too sharp ...
My opinion is if it is not sharp why bother, but then I am biased as I make them as gifts for friends ( $300 is not highend)
I wear a regimental dirk, with the lil knife and fork... I wear it on the right as it would inhibit the claymore on my left.... but all that stuff makes driving difficult lol
If you look at a Scot Weapons book by Wallace, you will see that those useless small knife and forks on chains were not part of the Dirk of the Scots. Only invented by craftsmen after Scottish regiments formed under the Crown. There are examples of a large spoon placed in the back side of the Dirk Scabbard.
97VF750 hence why he called it a Regimental dirk.
E McCracken how come I can’t find any “dress” dirks that are sharp? They are all stainless steel and blunt. I have found the more traditional older styled ones that are sharp.
But I would like to have a “dress/regimental” dirk and sgian duhn. And traditional but I would them to actually be functional.
I have been told stainless is also bad for longer blades as it can break easier?
And what about swords, and firearms was their “dress/regimental” and traditional versions of them too.
And please tell me the ones the military use are blunt to?
Sorry for all he questions, but I would also like to get a replica of William Wallace’s sword (not the movie version.) and one of Robert the Bruce’s but I’m having the same issues stainless and not functioning.
Also not sure how accurate some do them are.
Also find shields is hard as again most are for display only, and really expensive for some wood and metal.
A good sharp skean duhb can be nice to scrape a reed sound box if needed...
A multitool version with an actual reed picker would be nice..
This really depends. Some are not intended to be sharp. Some are meant for decoration only, like bladeless or many Sgian Brew. There are locations that will not allow knives or sharpened blades. So there are Sgian Dubh made for just plain decoration. Then you will have versions made of metals that can not be sharpened…. Myself, most of mine have a sharpened edge on them. But if I am going to a bar I will wear a sgian Brew instead out of respect for the establishment and depending on the legal jurisdiction, the law.
Came here in the hope that someone knows where I can find the pewter or silver accessories to finish a Sgian Dhu handle. I can find limited parts from people who make the knives to sell, but it would be cheaper just buying the knife in many cases. I want to make one as a wedding gift. Ferrules, endcaps etc.
I'm wondering if you can wear a hunting knife with a short blade or a boot knife. They are not expensive and they are functional
Of course you can! If you choose to do that, you'll run across people whose noses get right out of joint because it isn't a 'proper' sgian dubh. I just tell people that a proper sgian is the one you carry and use. Then I suggest to them gently that if they want to see me wearing something they consider more correct, that they buy it an give it to me as a gift.
Most hunting knives would be significantly bigger than a Sgian. Also, if you run into trouble with police or whoever, if it’s a very obviously a traditional Sgian (thistles etc etc) then I suppose it might be easier to say “no, this isn’t just a random knife I shoved in my sock but a part of traditional attire”.
It's a knife, Duah!!!!
Mine was really sharp when i first got it.
What about ones that don't have a blade at all? Just for show, some places a real knife would not be allowed
I have made three one for everyday use that is ugly looking but very sharp. Two that look good one is sharp and the other you can shave with it
The Sgian Dubh is a Victorian invention that came from the Sgian Ochlic or Sleeve Knife being put in the top of the hose while disarmed in a friendly home or situation. Have you ever tried to run through the heather with a small knife stuck in the top of you hose. Yes I am a retired Dirk maker, trained by a world famous Scots weapons maker and expert engraver.. Just as the kilt pin is Victorian as well. Notice the regimental kilt is not pin through, and is not functional, just decorative. It was forced upon them by Queen Victoria
97VF750 love the information and I’m struggling to understand a lot of things about this subject but you might be able to help me, if you don’t mind ?
(Have a lot of questions.)
how come I can’t find any “dress” dirks that are sharp? They are all stainless steel and blunt. I have found the more traditional older styled ones that are sharp.
But I would like to have a “dress/regimental” dirk and sgian duhn. And traditional but I would them to actually be functional.
I have been told stainless is also bad for longer blades as it can break easier?
And what about swords, and firearms was their “dress/regimental” and traditional versions of them too.
And please tell me the ones the military use are blunt to?
Sorry for all he questions, but I would also like to get a replica of William Wallace’s sword (not the movie version.) and one of Robert the Bruce’s but I’m having the same issues stainless and not functioning.
Also not sure how accurate some do them are.
Also find shields is hard as again most are for display only, and really expensive for some wood and metal.
Another thing is I hear a lot of about how the Sgian duhns were carried in the arm pit, how? Was there a special holster with straps (as I haven’t seen any.)
And I can’t imagine someone just holding their arm down all the time to keep pressure on their knife to stop it falling out. As that’s not practical.
And why were all these things forced on Scottish troops by Queen Victoria?
I didn’t think it was really that bad.
Also I saw someone comment that they were the armour for the Robert the Bruce film, I don’t suppose you know him?
And my last question is do you have any tips on getting into such an industry, I love this sort of thing I would love to make these items!
@@kylethedalek , Hi Kyle, if I can chip in, I can answer some of your questions. Some of the answers come from Scottish history and latterly, the UK's restricted knife laws.
In 1746 the Dress Act banned kilts, tartan, bagpipes, weapons etc. and wasn't repealed until 1784. If you were caught with or wearing any of the banned items, you were hanged.
That is why it's hard to find antique Dirk's, Claymores and Targes. Folks got rid of them, and by 1784, they were no longer required. The Clan System had been destroyed, so you didn't have to defend your home/land from raiding neighbours. Only officers in the Highland Regiments still used Claymore.
In Britain, it is illegal to be out in public with a non locking knife with a blade of more than 3 inches, without a good reason. There is an exemption for national dress, which applies to full Highland dress, but this doesn't apply on private property and you can still get arrested in public. Charges would be dropped, but it would ruin your day. That's why Sgian Dhu's are blunt.
Basically, a Leather man, or any hunting knife is illegal, unless you can prove you need it at that moment. If you're at work, you're ok on the building site/workshop/kitchen/shop, or if you are hunting/fishing. Go to the shop for lunch with them, you can get arrested, as you are not working so don't need to be carrying them.
Crazy, but that's how it is. We have a long history of knife crime and the Govt went Draconian in the 70's Kung Fu days. Too many idiots running about with Samurai swords and Nunchucks, too much "public outcry" 😠
Are these typically only worn by Scotts or are they also Irish used?
straycat1674 Scots. The Kilt is not an Irish tradition regardless of what people trying to sell them to you will say.
@@em.142 the Irish have adopted the kilt in three waves. First, in the late 1800's, as an act of rebellion against the British crown. The second time was over 100 years ago, as another act of rebellion against the crown, and a thumb to the nose against the black and tans. The third wave was almost thirty years ago.
Any other thing that has lasted for thirty years is plenty long enough for people to call it a tradition. Anything that has lasted since the Victorian era is certainly called a tradition.
I know, it was co-opted from the Scots. But the lowland Scots adopted the Kilt from rural highland Scots. I suppose lowlanders don't get to wear it either? If that's the case, I hope you're holding the entire western world to the same standard, after adopting the rural German tradition of Christmas trees, which happened in Britain...wait for it...during the Victorian era.
@@RickCaldwellvoluntaryist 30 years is barely one generation. So no, not enough time to create a national traditon. Is playing video games a national tradition? 🤦🏻♂️
The times you mention in the past were fringe political groups and their kilt wearing efforts also did not last continuously more than a generation.
Kilt wearing could hardly be considered “rebellion against the British crown” in the Victorian era- HM Queen Victoria herself was basically the strongest advocate of the kilt before or since save for Sir Walter Scott! The kilt was at that time a symbol of Scottish-British imperialism in the Highland Regiments. Your assertions are simply illogical.
“Depends on how much you drank” ..... is he talking about me?
Cutting of the haggis is the only time mine comes out - pain to wear at events so don't bother
Yeah... I'll just make my own rather than spend 300 dollars... zheesh
Shouldn't need a weapon at a black tie affair? That a life time guarantee?
They should all be sharp. Imagine the future generations wearing fake pistols for bling.
The name says it all. A dull knife is useless
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