The History and Impact of Latino Catholicism in America (w/ Dr. Timothy Matovina)
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
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Inspired by Hispanic Heritage month, I was reflecting on the tremendous impact of the Latino community on American Catholicism. The only problem was that I knew next to nothing about the subject. So, I did what I usually do in such a situation: find the smartest person writing on the subject and ask them lots of questions. On today's show, I am joined by Dr. Timothy Matovina, Professor of Theology at the University of Notre Dame, who has over 150 scholarly publications and specializes in Latino Catholicism. In this interview we discuss everything from questions of assimilation to history, the future of the Catholic Church and much more. Be sure to stick around until the end for a moving discussion of Our Lady of Guadalupe. You won't want to miss it.
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Greetings from a Roman/Syro-Malabar Catholic living in New Zealand. Keep the lamp burning, good man!
The WORD says the 7th day is holy
The WORLD says the 1st day is holy
JESUS says Sabbath is holy
POPE says Sunday is holy
🤔WHO DO YOU OBEY?
@Arthur Hallett-West more details please I have never heard of them
I'm also a Syro Malabar Catholic😀
Austin you should ask Dr. Motavina about the Cristero war? It’s one of many stories in Catholic history where the oppressed stood up to their oppressors. Many Mexican Catholics have a devout sense of pride . When remembering our fallen Brothers and Sisters that gave their lives during that war to be able to worship our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and his church.
Wow. Dr. Matovina’s description of Catholic devotion to Our Blessed Mother might be the most beautiful expression I’ve heard. Great interview. ❤️
Glad you enjoyed that!
Born and raised in Mexico, in a very Catholic town. Our church is very old and is the only church. Everyone is Catholic 😃 It was here in USA that I found out about other Christian denominations. God bless you all 🥰
Why are so many Mexicans dying to leave Mexico and go to a Protestant majority country (US) if majority catholic country is so great?
@@Natalierockify you mean a secular country? The US is hardly religious anymore. Europeans are hardly religious too.
@@Natalierockify I can only speak for myself. We move due to better opportunities (economic) we have been blessed and very great full to God and USA for all the opportunities given to us. USA is mainly a Cristian country, than means Catholics and other Christian denominations 😃 politics, economy, etc plays a very important role in every country not only religion. My blessings to you and your family.
@@F2222m US is the largest Christian nation in the whole world and China is the largest atheist nation..
@@jotunman627 we are a Christian nation? We are mostly nation.
I’m from El Paso, the Mission that the Hispanic settlers built almost 500 years ago burned down but we did rebuild it and the Tigua people that celebrated that mass with the Spanish settlers, still live here till this day. Great interview Austin!
that is so interesting; I live up the street from the very 1st Mission built in CA - Mission Basilica San Diego de Alcalá which was the first Franciscan mission in The Californias * history contains the padre and blacksmith being killed in a raid by the local Native Americans; it's also part of the SD public school system learning curriculum with onsite visit and study. Beautiful Mission.
Austin God bless you buddy!!! Actually, I became Catholic in León, Nicaragua. I met charismatic Catholics: a missions group from Bogota, Colombia, and there are Charismatic Catholics everywhere. The Latino form of Catholicism really drew me into the church! I want to read the book on Latino Catholicism. I am thankful for your videos on all the traditions of Christianity!
Latina Catholic here, thank you for this interview!
Eastern Orthodox here. My wife and I are big fans of the show. We enjoy the conversations between various Christian traditions. Wondering if you will ever have an Eastern Catholic on? That would make for a good show and I can throw some names at you of ones that would be great guests.
Deacon Dragani would be great🙂
Depends what kind of Eastern Catholic, wide variety among the 23 eastern churches lol but Byzantine, Fr Kaapes or Deacon Dragani are good
@Peter S and @TheosisPlus I should have been more specific, Byzantine Catholic. Deacon Dragani would be great, also Fr Daniel Dozier, Fr Hezekias or Fr Sebastian (later are both Melkite and founders of the Institute of Catholic Culture.
Henok Elias see his interview with jonathan pageau.
The WORD says the 7th day is holy
The WORLD says the 1st day is holy
JESUS says Sabbath is holy
POPE says Sunday is holy
🤔WHO DO YOU OBEY?
My only criticism of the Dr’s arguments is that he called the Spanish territories in America, colonies. They just were not. They had the same laws as the so called metropolis, and in instances the life expectancy in America was higher and more prosperous there. There was no taxation without representation, as it happened with the USA. The Hispanic Monarchy was the first to deal with human rights, the first global empire and it’s just sad when they compare it to England and France, when they were not on the same level. I could go on and on for hours explaining this but I am glad that Austin made a move into exploring the version of the USA that is not Wasp, but just as real and true.
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Thanks Austin for sharing this video with us! As a Tejano we have a suppressed history that you've opened up with this interview.
Best video in the history of Gospel Simplicity, IMO.
Wow, thanks! Judging by the view count on this one, that's an unpopular opinion! But alas, views and quality don't often, or perhaps rarely, coincide
There are also a lot of Vietnamese American Catholics. I am one of them. Lots of Asian Americans are Catholic too 😊😊😊
Are they? I know follipinos are largely catholic but wasnt aware of vietnamese
@@gdiaz8827 Most Vietnamese are Buddhist but there are millions of Vietnamese Catholics.
@@anthonyvu3231 did that come from missionaries in vietnam or exposure to catholics here in the states?
@@gdiaz8827 in the 1600’s a French Catholic priest named Father Alexander de Rhodes came to Vietnam and made the alphabet that Vietnam uses today. Before Fr Alex came Vietnam did not have its own alphabet, Vietnam had to use Chinese characters. He was able to convert a lot of Vietnamese people to the Catholic faith thru making the Vietnamese alphabet system. From there Catholicism began to grow in Vietnam.
Much appreciated, Austin! Thank you so much! Being from one of the most ethnic diverse countries in the world and having received massive immigrants throughout the history, just like the USA, it was a pleasure to hear our American brothers searching deeper for a complete historiography of Christianity in the midst of so much sociological tension one can feel there.
On the last part of the video. Our Lady of Guadalupe, albeit important, is not a very widespread devotion in Brazil. Because we weren’t colonized by Spain but Portugal (many don’t know it), where Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception is the protector of their people arguably since its birth (in the 12th century) and officially the country’s patroness since the 1600s, that form of devotion played a part in the Portuguese colonies. Our Lady of the Conception “Aparecida” (“that appeared”) is the name of the patroness of Brazil. Curiously, the name is not due to an apparition but to an actual finding of a lost statue of Our Lady, in 1717, by three poor fishermen and a miraculous catch after that. And as it would be expected, the image of Our Lady of (the Immaculate Conception) Aparecida has a crown with twelve stars and shows her pregnant, the highlighted detail: it shows the Virgin Mary not only as Queen but as the purest vessel for Our Lord to enter this messy world.
For a Latin American, as we are kind of used to a wretched world, Christianity makes much less sense without the Most Blessed Virgin, who is the prototype of the Church Triumphant (the church of the saved who achieved glorification) - and people can fairly understand it without a theological degree, and just then make sense on what she was chanting about in the beautiful “Magnificat” (Lk 1, 46-55). The mystery of the Church is palatable, I guess, if we recognize Mary as the inter-testamentary connection bridge for Israel and the Church: when suffering Israel (the starting point) and the Church in glory (the resulting point) are seen together in a true line of biblical continuity. As a friend says, the messier the reality around (rectius: the more concrete our humble recognition of its undeniable messiness), the more sense one can make of Marian devotions in light of the mystery of Christ, Our Savior and Redeemer.
God bless!
Thank you!!! I loved so much this interview
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'd venture to say it is incredibly important; from my review, more than half of the world's practicing Roman Catholics are in the Americas. No small accident that for the first time ever, the most recent Pope was selected from the new world - Pope Francis (birth name Jorge Bergoglio, I think) grew up in Argentina.
That's too bad that Bergoglio was chosen. It's funny you say "new world" because this anti-pope wants to start a new world order or new world religion. I want no part of it. He's even got it started already by speaking a lot of heresies and even with that demon idol "pachamama." Horrible. I wish Benedict XVI was still our Pope. B16 was *forced out.*
The Church as a whole is certainly thriving in South America, Africa, and Asia. The majority of Anglicans are African.
Good and beautiful video..... The original Latinos were actually here before the states moved WEST..Its a really interested topic. Learn a lot of that back in college.. 👍🏻🙏🏻 God bless all and your Chanel Sr. Austin.....
One of your best episodes yet!
Very interesting topic discussed learnt somethings I didn't know. Hoping this topic continues to be discussed.
Most of us Roman Catholics just refer to ourselves as Catholic
That's right. Perhaps Austin just wasn't sure what to title this video. I don't mind because it's Austin. 🙂 He's great! And he would never want to intentionally offend anyone or leave anyone out.
I'm Mexican American, born here in the U.S. I'm a cradle Catholic. I see many Hispanics leaving the Church for Protestantism and even going to the Watchtower to be JWs! They're not even Christians! But just seeing Hispanic Protestants breaks my heart. My sister is one of them. She was baptized Catholic but left the Church. And so did my oldest brother. We're all cradle Catholics in my family but now 2 of my siblings have left. 😔💔
Roman Catholic is more accurate.
Because we are truly Catholic.
@@diegobarragan4904 Easten Orthodox is more accurate the way I see it.
@@F2222m orthodox Catholics are the True Catholics historically, not Roman Catholics.
Thank you for using the correct word 💕
Yes, instead of what people now think is "politically correct", that insulting "LatinX" label. I tell people to never call me Latin X! I'm not an X like to be Xed out! I'm a person, an Hispanic person. A Latina! A Mexican American! Any of those labels, but Not Latin X.
@@1Hope4All I’m also Latina, hey sis ☺️💕
@@1Hope4All I also don’t appreciate places forcing it on us. Especially the collective, like if the individual wants to identify so be it, but not for everyone. It’s exclusive if they want to be so politically correct, think they’d thought of that? No, it’s a power move.
Viva Cristo Rey y Nuestra Santísima Madre La Virgen de Guadalupe!!!!!
Please don't call us latinx. The term latino comes from Spanish which is a gendered language
His woke politics is showing.
Not many actually use that term among our people
Preach
I grew up in Northern California and in our public school education we also learned about the Russian presence and colonization of present day United States in addition to the Spanish and Mexican presence in California. Fort Ross was a Russian settlement in California. The Russian Orthodox also contributed to the spreading of Christianity in Alaska among the Aleut people.
That's awesome!
The WORD says the 7th day is holy
The WORLD says the 1st day is holy
JESUS says Sabbath is holy
POPE says Sunday is holy
🤔WHO DO YOU OBEY?
@@protestant7778 This is like the least important issue rn lol
E G
Breaking ANY of the
10 commandments is a SIN!!!
SIN = Transgression of the law!
👉(1John 3:4)
You say: "least important"
Bible says: death penalty!(Rom. 6:23)
@@protestant7778 This why Protestantism is a joke, the Old Covenant (always acting like Judaizer) has been gone since 70 AD, welcome to 2022. Viva la Santa Madre de Dios.
I think interviewing Dr. Ramon Luzarraga would be a good part 2. Also, the University of Dayton has a doctoral program that focuses on Catholicism in the US.
Amazing! Thank you
My pleasure!
Super interesting. Really enjoyed this one!
I adore your channel. Thank you for your discussions and content. Having said that, this video should have been titled Liberation Theology. Not Our Lady of Guadalupe.
Austin, I recommend you seek out Dr. Ethan Smith at UDayton as well. I think your exploration and research would benefit from his point of view.
Viva Cristo Rey!
Hello from the Texas & border.
Very great interview.
side note but so glad you cut your hair lol short hair looks really good on you
I'd like to know your opinion on Yuval Harari's view of the world
The first religious profession was made by Mary Turpin in 1752 in New Orleans.
Lmao he called Columbus day indigenous heritage day "Catholic" btw
Columbus was catholic
Austin, I’m no apologist, but I find apologetics a curious subject. Yes, I know it’s deadly serious, but I find it fascinating that one person can be told that they are a sinner and need salvation and, BINGO, they’re converted, while another like the atheist Christopher Hitchens can be presented with the most sophisticated intellectual arguments ever conceived and still remain an atheist, and Jordan Peterson can come so close yet be so far! Even more curious to me is that the tipping point for conversion is different for everybody and can occur anywhere along that spectrum. Without a doubt, the Holy Ghost works in mysterious ways.
Anywho, I’ve got a couple of videos for you that I find particularly compelling that argue in favor of the Catholic Church. Of course, I realize that you may not find them so, but I’m sure that at least you’ll find them very interesting.
The first is about Joe Biden’s encounter with the Pope, but the sum and substance of the video is about the Eucharist. It’s by John-Henry Weston, and it’s called, “Why are Catholics concerned with Biden receiving Communion? Hint: It has to do with John 6”. Actually the entire video focuses on just one aspect of John Chapter 6, but it’s a doozie!
The other is about Purgatory. Actually, it’s not a direct argument for Purgatory, rather it’s about the levels of prayer as taught by St. Theresa of Avila, and the huge mountain we have to climb in order to attain perfection, a.k.a. “sainthood”. Of course you know that the Catholic Church teaches that if we die in the state of grace but don’t attain perfection in this life that we go to Purgatory. This video describes the process of attaining perfection, and clearly shows how we are imperfect all along the way until we attain sainthood -- and consequently aren’t ready for heaven.
It’s by a world-renowned Catholic priest named Father Chad Ripperger. Father Ripperger is an orthodox Catholic philosopher and theologian in the school of St. Thomas Aquinas, a prolific podcaster who has also appeared as a guest on other Catholic podcasts such as Dr. Taylor Marshall’s and US Grace Force, and just happens to be widely regarded as the leading exorcist of the Catholic Church! The video is called, “Spiritual Theology Series: Levels of Prayer - Fr. Ripperger”. And even if you don’t agree with it, you’ll appreciate the theology in the video -- it’s brilliant.
P.S.
Personally, I find it hard to argue with a guy who actually talks with demons.
And God bless you!
Greeting from a zen temple in Japan!
Greetings!
The WORD says the 7th day is holy
The WORLD says the 1st day is holy
JESUS says Sabbath is holy
POPE says Sunday is holy
🤔WHO DO YOU OBEY?
💕💕🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷also have to rep my other side 🇦🇬🇦🇬🇦🇬💕💕✝️
As a Latino who was raised in the Catholic Church. Catholicism did absolutely nothing to set me free from my sins. I went to confession, mass but never saw a change. I saw my life change when I heard the gospel preached and I was called to repent in public. Only then did my life change and the holy spirit fill me.
I also believed that Catholicism was the truth and would tell anyone who said it differently. I was at times desperate for change and saw other young men and women desperate but they had no hope because they did not know the lord.
The fact that u failed to recognize the freedom that was given you does not mean it wasnt there. You had b as ptism which freed you from original sin and confession that further freed you. Did you sonehow fail to hear the gospel at every mass or were u too busy doing sonething else?
@@gdiaz8827 🙏
Deus vult ain’t that far from deo vindice
The WORD says the 7th day is holy
The WORLD says the 1st day is holy
JESUS says Sabbath is holy
POPE says Sunday is holy
🤔WHO DO YOU OBEY?
St Paul was the first one dealing with the heresy of the “judaizers”. Biblically speaking, alongside with Gnosticism, it was one of the first heresies in all Christian history and it is shown in the very text of the NT. Modern day heresies hardly ever are invented from ground zero; in general they are recycled and mingled with one another. A study case: anti-sacramentalism in general drinks from the Gnostic type of contempt for the matter in favor of a kind of spiritualism according to which the matter is objectively bad and the spirit is objectively good. Other example would be the Nestorian tendencies inside some of the hard core anti-Catholic ecclesial communities and sects: Mary is allegedly the mother of the human nature of Christ but not his divinity, as if a mother gave birth to a nature and not to a person (and that person is surely divine, the Eternal Word of God that is definitely proclaimed in our history). So if you study further, my friend, it is easy to see ALL kinds of heretical doctrines or at least tendencies are recycled from past heretical movements. And Seventh Day Adventism was a sect created in 19th century in Michigan, USA.
@Master Chief
NOWHERE in scripture is
God's sabbath referred to as the "Jewish sabbath" because it's NOT the Jews sabbath!
JESUS said the sabbath was made for man which = MANKIND in the Greek!
10 Commandments = for Jews?
9 Commandments = for Christians?
☝️☝️☝️THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!
Master Chief
Paul kept the sabbath too!
👉(Acts 17:2)
@Master Chief
Funny how you call "Judaizers" those who obey God's 4th Commandment.
Do you believe God is a "Judaizer" because the sabbath will most definitely be kept in the new heaven and new earth!
👉(Isaiah 66:23) 🤔????
@@protestant7778 a text taken out of context? I see. paul went to sinagogue on saturday because guess what? no one was going to be there on sunday. that doesnt mean he was observing the sabbath. he knew were and when to find them to presch the gospel. in fact after jesus resurrection, christians never gathered on saturday. maybe you should start asking why the adventist are the only one hanging on the sabbath aside from jewish.
I realize that this is a slight digression from your main mission, but the next time you do one, you could do worse than to delve into the story of Russians, native Alaskans and Orthodoxy in Alaska and the West Coast. Ideally, with Fr. Michael Oleksa, an incredible story-teller and expert in Native Alaskan culture and contributor to the Smithsonian. Again, a US/Christian history from a different, old & effecting perspective.
I'd be open to that! I really like those conversations, even if they're not the most popular on my channel
Austin, you GOTTA WATCH “Reasons You’ve Never Heard on Why Protestantism is WRONG” by Timothy J. Gordon on UA-cam.
Catchy title, eh? How could you possibly NOT watch a video with a title like that? But I’m not going to give away the content except to say that THIS WILL MAKE YOU STOP AND THINK.
Anywho, Timothy J. Gordon is an orthodox Catholic podcaster who is an Aristotelian/Thomistic philosopher, author, Church history teacher, and attorney (but we forgive him for being an attorney). By the way, when you watch his podcast, the scary looking sign behind him that says “Rules for Retrogrades” is the name of his show and the title of one of his books. The book contains tactics to ethically oppose the left, and was named in opposition to Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”. And “Retrogrades” aren’t evil -- they’re people who harken back to tried-and-true moral principles passed down through history.
God Bless You. Love your show!
Interesting!
👍👍👏👏👏👏👏✝️😊
Latino not LatinX
All these people talking up majority catholic countries live in the U.S. ( a majority Protestant country) and would never want to live in a majority catholic country. Why is it that a country like Mexico that is majority Catholic has people dying to leave it and come to a Protestant majority country like the U.S. ? Why are immigrants so desperate to leave Mexico ? If the country being majority Catholic is so great why don't you, Andrew want to live there instead of USA? You wouldn't.
I don’t know who said that, it is white countries that people want to live in. It has little to do with religion. The US is mostly secular if you haven’t noticed.
Not a European, but I would rather go to traditionally Catholic majority Italy, Spain, Croatia or France rather than Protestant majority Finland, Denmark or Northern Germany.
@@F2222m Not "white" countries, but western. Countries that were deeply influenced by European culture. What makes European culture distinct/superior, one might ask? Hundreds of years of Christianity, which forms the bedrock of European ethos.
Answering your your first two questions. It’s about the economy not religion. Every major rich country who is surrounded by a less prosperous country will have an influx of immigrants. This is not unique only to our country. Yes I was born in the USA.
You will have to update from which countries Latino immigrants come and the reasons for leaving their countries, specially if you want to create a ministry for them. Your 90s data is making me giggle.