I would still paint the rear calipers .... Even if you cant see much of them behind the wheel when stationary they are more visible when the vehicle is moving .
Great video😊 I painted my calipers also. Very nice result! Also new Brembo discs but with EBC Yellow Stuff pads. More power to stop and no squeaking. Greetings from Holland😊
Another great video Sam, really love the honesty about the evil bleed nipple too. Would love to see how you changed the brake fluid and bled the system if you did manage to capture this, it would be great footage. Looking forward to the next instalment...
I have footage of the bleeding process but I didn’t include it as the video was getting pretty long! I may release it separately - otherwise, I’ll be using the pump again soon on the P38 as I’m doing all the brakes on that too.
Right now doing the same for my L322 5.0 SC. A week ago I decided to replace old pads. One side was absolutely fine, but the other side was completely jammed. All 6 pistons didn't move. I quit to order new pistons and tools as there are this stupid 12 point bolts. Today I noticed that there is a sea of dot4 under my wheel. Looks like I disturbed the seals on jammed pistons. Interesting thing is that the engine didn't start. I added some fluid, bleeded the brakes on the leaking wheel, the fluid level error disappeared but looks like the car doesn't want to start without pressure in the braking system as the braking pedal goes all the way down without resistance. Looks like I'll have to bleed all 4 wheel in the end.
Yes they look nice and are lighter than steel sliding calipers but I'm not convinced that Aluminium calipers have any place on a road car, they just dissolve in my experience. I have the same style of Brembo caliper on my BMW 335D (it's the 370mm front 4 pots and 345mm rear 2 pots). Every bleed nipple has sheared on the front, necessitating helicoiling, and the pad interface is turning to dust after not many years. Steel on aluminium is bad enough but throw in salt water as an electrolyte and you get the aluminium galvanically corroding. Mine are really badly pitted, and require quite frequent strip downs to pull the pads out and clean up the bare ends of the caliper before re-coating in brake grease and re-assembling. They're just not suited to wet, salty environments IMO. Good job on the repair, they actually look in decent nick for 200k!
Enjoyed your video , apart from your mishap . On a brighter note - you now have two nearly new callipers and you should have the other two Brembo decals ! win win . Do not put copperslip on your bleed nipples , use the trw grease or ceramic grease . I use the later on glow plugs , after removing the heater plugs from a Freelander 2 with 135k miles on it . All four were not working which leads me to suspect they were original , they had a white residue on them - so I looked into it . They were the easiest heater plugs I ever removed .
Really great video. Which has helped me with a decision. Given the challenges of doing it, and not having a garage, I think I will pay someone to do it. Thanks!
Sincere thanks Sam for another enlightening video you have inspired me to continue ownership of my 2012 L322 TDV8 Vogue and continue with my own upgrades and servicing thanks again Alan Australia
Another great job and massive kudos to you! I also did my brakes a few months back, no painting but did a refurb with new rubber seals and regrease of the pistons. I also managed to strip the threads on one of the bleed screws so had to get it sent off to be drilled and have a helicoil fitted, but all good now. Next job will be to change out discs and pads, but will also do the parking brake shoes when I do. I’m tempted to get the callipers painted and also add braided hoses for better feel but will wait and see how the bank balance looks before committing. Keep up the great vids and hopefully more to follow soon! 👍
I love this channel so much. I'm a huge L322 enthusiast and I must've watches each of your videos a handful of times already. Can't wait for more content!
I have just bought a set of these calipers for my 2012 L320 along with a set of 380mm Brembo discs from carparts4 less and a set of Brembo pads from Autodoc. After watching your video, I made sure that I could loosen off and re-tighten the bleed nipples. Two came undone without much fuss but the other two were very tight, but I managed to loosen them without causing any damage. They would have been a nightmare to undo whilst the calipers were fitted to the vehicle and would have more than likely snapped. Looking forward to seeing your video on bleeding the system.
Ah that sucks about the bleed nipple. I feel your pain. I was having "caliper envy" looking at the job you did on them. I to want to see the bleed process so looking forward to your video on that.
What a pain re callipers refurbished a mk1 tt a few years ago, and literally every last screw/bolt snapped whether in brakes/suspension or the rusty front wings. Went through packs of drill bits.
I didn’t do the bedding in procedure as the shoes are pretty old and worn (ideally they would have been replaced but couldn’t get parts in time from LR), so I didn’t want to strain the linings and potentially damage the shoes by doing the bedding in procedure, which is quite harsh.
I wasn’t brave enough to change the brakes myself on my RR, but it was a treat watching you change yours. You should think about powder coating your wheels black and then the red from the calipers will really pop!
Hi Sam, enjoyed the video but what happened to bleeding the brakes with that new bit of kit? Really would like to know what you bought, how much and did it help enough to warrant purchase, please.
I have one of those Clarke pressure bleeding bottles and their brilliant! 100% worth the money, makes bleeding a breeze… Providing your nipples are loose lol
Yeah I neglected to film that bit unfortunately. HOWEVER, I'm doing a full brake job on the P38 soon and will be using the tool then. Suffice to say it made it a doddle on the L322.
Great vid series, Sam. I have an L320 2007 vintage with Brembos - replaced the discs 18 months ago, and now have the annoying warp vibe when braking from speed; I drive it quite carefully, and don't give the brakes a hard time, but will be disappointed if I need to shell out more £££ to change them again after such a short length of time. I've not measured the discs for warpage, so might be dissing them unnecessarily, but will be interested to see how your discs stand the test of time. Keep up the great content!👍
I also use Autodoc, and went all Brembo. Not got the six pot calipers on mine. And it looks like you have my luck, snapping off a bleed nipple. They look pretty good painted up. 👍
@@SamsMotors Just about to give my bank account another bashing, by using Autodoc. Fitting a towbar (about time I hear some people say), and they have a nice detachable one for the L322.
Recently had a removeable head towbar fitted to my evoque (L358) from a company called Tow-Trust Towbars good price and everything lined up well not like the witter I fitted to my old freelander none of the holes lined up properly
Do you know if an upgrade would be possible from the old 2009 range rover l322 brakes? They're not the brembo ones, but the ugliest kind, with the exposed brake pad.
Still there, in bits unfortunately. Awaiting the owner having some more time to focus on it and get some steel ordered. I’m hoping to cover the rebuild when it commences, so watch this space, but it won’t be for a while yet.
Another great video Sam....keep them up. I have the same L322 as Sam although mine is the Autobiography edition. I refurbed the rears recently and unfortunately I didn't nip the rear hoses up sufficiently for the 7 days the calipers were off and getting shot blasted, painted and rebuilt and brake fluid has been leaking from the rear lines. I am really struggling bleeding the system now the calipers are back on and suspect there may be air in the ABS system that requires purging. I have heard the front calipers are an issue with the pins and brake nipples prone to seizing in the aluminium casing.
Loving your video's ..thanks. I replaced my rears recently on my 2012 and the landrover specialist told me to wind the little adjuster/cog thing in all the way till i couldn't turn the disc anymore...than back it off 1 complete turn! I would love to know who's right?
Hi Sam, i too have the same problemn with a broken bleed nipple but on the passenger side caliper. Would you consider selling the one you have thats ok? Thanks Adam
@@SamsMotors Thanks for the reply! As a L322 expert, I was wondering if you could tell me how much free play my brake pedal should have? It feels like it has more travel than my other vehicles and i'm thinking there may be some air in the lines requiring a flush / bleed.
Quick unrelated question. Just bought a 2011 L322 4.4 TDV8. 99k miles When the first turbo spools up at 1200 rpm ish I hear a slight whistle/woosh. Only when drivers window is down, same again when I lift off at low revs. No smoke, no hesitation or lack of low-end power, no faults in IID tool. Is this normal or should I be looking for a boost leak or turbo issue ? Is there any live data I can check in IID to idenify any problems. Thanks for any advice. Love your L322 content
Hello Again, Really enjoy your vlogs, but I think you should of painted the rear calipers, you may live to regret not doing them when you look at the vehicle. Regards. RichardA.
@@TheDoc-j6g despite my mechanical skills, I haven’t memorised all of the fasteners on the L322 unfortunately. If you send me an email at samsmotorandmachine@gmail.com I will forward you a copy 👍
As the shoes aren’t in the first flush of youth I didn’t bother… the bedding procedure is pretty aggressive and wouldn’t want to damage the linings. Parking brake working just as well as before though 👍
Hi Sam, I was looking forward to this video. Great one again. Quick question on the rear electric hand brake: I suppose you unlocked it first then slacked off the brake a bit further using the screw? And can I be sure that it stays off while working on it? (And not puts the e-hand brake on while the disk is off)
I think earlier cars had the 4 pot Brembo front calipers, and then for 1 year (2009-2010) they went to a non Brembo sliding caliper, and then 2010-12 they went to these 6 pot Brembo calipers.
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Great effort! Although you should be wearing a mask when spraying.. very naughty!
And probably more importantly when wire brushing… loads of brake dust came off.
Just bought my 2010 4.4 v8 diesel and good to see I have good support and knowledge here very excited now
I would still paint the rear calipers .... Even if you cant see much of them behind the wheel when stationary they are more visible when the vehicle is moving .
Great video😊 I painted my calipers also. Very nice result! Also new Brembo discs but with EBC Yellow Stuff pads. More power to stop and no squeaking. Greetings from Holland😊
We just bought 2011 Range Rover we love it! I’ve be doing the light upgrades your videos are the best👍
A fun of L322 and been waiting for you to release a video update thanks my Sunday has been made
Another great video Sam, really love the honesty about the evil bleed nipple too. Would love to see how you changed the brake fluid and bled the system if you did manage to capture this, it would be great footage. Looking forward to the next instalment...
I have footage of the bleeding process but I didn’t include it as the video was getting pretty long! I may release it separately - otherwise, I’ll be using the pump again soon on the P38 as I’m doing all the brakes on that too.
Right now doing the same for my L322 5.0 SC. A week ago I decided to replace old pads. One side was absolutely fine, but the other side was completely jammed. All 6 pistons didn't move. I quit to order new pistons and tools as there are this stupid 12 point bolts. Today I noticed that there is a sea of dot4 under my wheel. Looks like I disturbed the seals on jammed pistons. Interesting thing is that the engine didn't start. I added some fluid, bleeded the brakes on the leaking wheel, the fluid level error disappeared but looks like the car doesn't want to start without pressure in the braking system as the braking pedal goes all the way down without resistance. Looks like I'll have to bleed all 4 wheel in the end.
Yes they look nice and are lighter than steel sliding calipers but I'm not convinced that Aluminium calipers have any place on a road car, they just dissolve in my experience. I have the same style of Brembo caliper on my BMW 335D (it's the 370mm front 4 pots and 345mm rear 2 pots). Every bleed nipple has sheared on the front, necessitating helicoiling, and the pad interface is turning to dust after not many years. Steel on aluminium is bad enough but throw in salt water as an electrolyte and you get the aluminium galvanically corroding. Mine are really badly pitted, and require quite frequent strip downs to pull the pads out and clean up the bare ends of the caliper before re-coating in brake grease and re-assembling. They're just not suited to wet, salty environments IMO. Good job on the repair, they actually look in decent nick for 200k!
Enjoyed your video , apart from your mishap . On a brighter note - you now have two nearly new callipers and you should have the other two Brembo decals ! win win . Do not put copperslip on your bleed nipples , use the trw grease or ceramic grease . I use the later on glow plugs , after removing the heater plugs from a Freelander 2 with 135k miles on it . All four were not working which leads me to suspect they were original , they had a white residue on them - so I looked into it . They were the easiest heater plugs I ever removed .
Really great video. Which has helped me with a decision. Given the challenges of doing it, and not having a garage, I think I will pay someone to do it. Thanks!
Must say that final drone shot with the new roof rack it really does look the business! Top work as always.
I did mine using Brembo from Autodoc, great price and quality stuff just took over a week to get it delivered.
Brilliant, really enjoyed the video
Sincere thanks Sam for another enlightening video you have inspired me to continue ownership of my 2012 L322 TDV8 Vogue and continue with my own upgrades and servicing thanks again Alan Australia
Another great job and massive kudos to you! I also did my brakes a few months back, no painting but did a refurb with new rubber seals and regrease of the pistons. I also managed to strip the threads on one of the bleed screws so had to get it sent off to be drilled and have a helicoil fitted, but all good now. Next job will be to change out discs and pads, but will also do the parking brake shoes when I do. I’m tempted to get the callipers painted and also add braided hoses for better feel but will wait and see how the bank balance looks before committing. Keep up the great vids and hopefully more to follow soon! 👍
Another great video, alot of work put in. Giving you better stopping power . Well done 👍 🔧
They turned out really great
Sam thanks for another great video it seems like you had my sort of luck with the brakes but at least you got it sorted.
I just found my l320 07 plate has 6pot brembo fitted to the front lol. They are painted black so I’m going to paint them again
Saw that Range Rover last week, such a fine machine. Great job on the brakes!
Cheers Dave, where did you spot me?!
@@SamsMotors Tuam. My home town. Not a million miles from you!
@@Dave.The_Sham I'm around Tuam a fair bit, give me a wave next time! 😁
I love this channel so much. I'm a huge L322 enthusiast and I must've watches each of your videos a handful of times already. Can't wait for more content!
Thanks Kyle that's so awesome to hear. More stuff is on the way :)
I thought I felt a disturbance in the force in Kent! Another great vid mate, keep up the great work 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I have just bought a set of these calipers for my 2012 L320 along with a set of 380mm Brembo discs from carparts4 less and a set of Brembo pads from Autodoc.
After watching your video, I made sure that I could loosen off and re-tighten the bleed nipples. Two came undone without much fuss but the other two were very tight, but I managed to loosen them without causing any damage. They would have been a nightmare to undo whilst the calipers were fitted to the vehicle and would have more than likely snapped.
Looking forward to seeing your video on bleeding the system.
can you fit 19 inch tires on 380mm disks ?
Ah that sucks about the bleed nipple. I feel your pain. I was having "caliper envy" looking at the job you did on them. I to want to see the bleed process so looking forward to your video on that.
What a pain re callipers refurbished a mk1 tt a few years ago, and literally every last screw/bolt snapped whether in brakes/suspension or the rusty front wings. Went through packs of drill bits.
Hi Sam, great channel. I really enjoy your stuff. Did you need to perform the bedding in process for the handbrake ?
I didn’t do the bedding in procedure as the shoes are pretty old and worn (ideally they would have been replaced but couldn’t get parts in time from LR), so I didn’t want to strain the linings and potentially damage the shoes by doing the bedding in procedure, which is quite harsh.
Great work as usual, could you please show the bleeding procedure?
Will be in an upcoming video :)
I wasn’t brave enough to change the brakes myself on my RR, but it was a treat watching you change yours. You should think about powder coating your wheels black and then the red from the calipers will really pop!
Heya, where did you source new pistons and seals from?
Wish I’d known you were down in Kent, my home. I could have met for a coffee and look over the RR.
Great Video Only thing is better lighting at some parts
Hi Sam, enjoyed the video but what happened to bleeding the brakes with that new bit of kit? Really would like to know what you bought, how much and did it help enough to warrant purchase, please.
I have one of those Clarke pressure bleeding bottles and their brilliant! 100% worth the money, makes bleeding a breeze… Providing your nipples are loose lol
Yeah I neglected to film that bit unfortunately. HOWEVER, I'm doing a full brake job on the P38 soon and will be using the tool then. Suffice to say it made it a doddle on the L322.
Hi Sam I got fed up of paying over the odds for brake clean in Cans I brought a 5 litre can and a pressure bottle cheaper in the long run .
Great vid series, Sam. I have an L320 2007 vintage with Brembos - replaced the discs 18 months ago, and now have the annoying warp vibe when braking from speed; I drive it quite carefully, and don't give the brakes a hard time, but will be disappointed if I need to shell out more £££ to change them again after such a short length of time. I've not measured the discs for warpage, so might be dissing them unnecessarily, but will be interested to see how your discs stand the test of time.
Keep up the great content!👍
Did you find out if brake disc was warped? Sometimes a buckled or unbalanced wheel can feel similar.
I also use Autodoc, and went all Brembo. Not got the six pot calipers on mine. And it looks like you have my luck, snapping off a bleed nipple. They look pretty good painted up. 👍
Yeah the aluminium callipers are lovely but crikey do they like seizing with the steel components! AutoDoc is a life saver for us in the EU! 🙏
@@SamsMotors Just about to give my bank account another bashing, by using Autodoc. Fitting a towbar (about time I hear some people say), and they have a nice detachable one for the L322.
@@Bensgarage nice! Is it just the removable armature or is it the whole frame that bolts to the car?
@@SamsMotors Had a westfalia removable one on the TD6, but looking at over €1K for one of those.
Recently had a removeable head towbar fitted to my evoque (L358) from a company called Tow-Trust Towbars good price and everything lined up well not like the witter I fitted to my old freelander none of the holes lined up properly
Yaaaaas! Been waiting for this!
Do you know if an upgrade would be possible from the old 2009 range rover l322 brakes? They're not the brembo ones, but the ugliest kind, with the exposed brake pad.
Sam, very much off topic, have you got an update on the Esarco 8x8. I appreciate it’s in the UK!
Still there, in bits unfortunately. Awaiting the owner having some more time to focus on it and get some steel ordered. I’m hoping to cover the rebuild when it commences, so watch this space, but it won’t be for a while yet.
@@SamsMotors thanks for the update fingers crossed they finish it
Another great video Sam....keep them up. I have the same L322 as Sam although mine is the Autobiography edition. I refurbed the rears recently and unfortunately I didn't nip the rear hoses up sufficiently for the 7 days the calipers were off and getting shot blasted, painted and rebuilt and brake fluid has been leaking from the rear lines. I am really struggling bleeding the system now the calipers are back on and suspect there may be air in the ABS system that requires purging. I have heard the front calipers are an issue with the pins and brake nipples prone to seizing in the aluminium casing.
Good job, though personally red brembos look a little gawdy on a classy l322
Loving your video's ..thanks.
I replaced my rears recently on my 2012 and the landrover specialist told me to wind the little adjuster/cog thing in all the way till i couldn't turn the disc anymore...than back it off 1 complete turn! I would love to know who's right?
That’s pretty much what I did - a slight drag noise (no resistance) tells you you’re bang on the money.
Yer turn all the way off make sure handbrake is off then turn the other way till you feel the wheel has some resistance then it’s done
GD SAM THEM BRAKE CALIPERS LOOKING GOOD FROM OUT HERE IN JAMAICS
Hey mate,
Has the suspension issue been resolved yet?
Hi from Australia.
Hi Sam, i too have the same problemn with a broken bleed nipple but on the passenger side caliper. Would you consider selling the one you have thats ok? Thanks Adam
Where are you based Adam? Email me at samsmotorandmachine@gmail.com
I think i will need too move next door to you Sam 🏴
Great video Sam and love the red callipers. I want mine painted, but have a white L405 so not sure of the colour?👍👍👍👍
You can’t go wrong with red, but with a white car, I think blue would also look pretty good! Either a dark metallic blue or bright cobalt blue.
Do you ever get any brake squeaking or squealing on your front brakes? What style brembo pads did you go with?
Not that I have noticed. They are just the standard OEM Brembo pads and I used the Brembo “be quiet” grease on the contact faces.
@@SamsMotors I assume semi-metalic and not ceramic. Thanks for the reply!
@@SamsMotors Thanks for the reply! As a L322 expert, I was wondering if you could tell me how much free play my brake pedal should have? It feels like it has more travel than my other vehicles and i'm thinking there may be some air in the lines requiring a flush / bleed.
Quick unrelated question. Just bought a 2011 L322 4.4 TDV8. 99k miles
When the first turbo spools up at 1200 rpm ish I hear a slight whistle/woosh. Only when drivers window is down, same again when I lift off at low revs. No smoke, no hesitation or lack of low-end power, no faults in IID tool. Is this normal or should I be looking for a boost leak or turbo issue ? Is there any live data I can check in IID to idenify any problems.
Thanks for any advice. Love your L322 content
Totally normal, all of the ones I've driven/seen have been the same. I actually quite enjoy the little turbo whistle at low revs 😆
It’s just expelling surplus boost pressure very normal
did you put copperslip on those pad pins when you put them back in?
I used the proper Brembo B Quiet grease on everything but forgot to film it 😃
Hello Again, Really enjoy your vlogs, but I think you should of painted the rear calipers, you may live to regret not doing them when you look at the vehicle. Regards. RichardA.
Did you think about lighting before you mace this vid?
What sort of lighting, Graham?
@@SamsMotors At the start, the work in the wheel wells was difficult to see. So better, more lighting would have helped
@@hallga2 noted, will sort it better next time 👍
When is there a social meet up being organised? Would be great to do one as Galway isn’t far for most 👍
Would be cool! I try and get to the LROI meet ups (when they actually happen!) but we could definitely do a Galway / west of Ireland meet up for sure.
Would be great craic I’m sure!
What size are the front caliper bracket retaining bolts please?
Not sure, check the workshop manual maybe
I would if there was one available at a sensible price - but then we wouldn't need you tube videos! 🙄🤣
@@TheDoc-j6g despite my mechanical skills, I haven’t memorised all of the fasteners on the L322 unfortunately. If you send me an email at samsmotorandmachine@gmail.com I will forward you a copy 👍
Prime or ceramic pads?
I went with Prime and the brake dust seems very minimal with great stopping power 👍
You didn't show us how to bed the parking brake shoes to the new discs, I'll just leave this cheeky link here: ua-cam.com/video/GHHYLQBpyaw/v-deo.html
As the shoes aren’t in the first flush of youth I didn’t bother… the bedding procedure is pretty aggressive and wouldn’t want to damage the linings. Parking brake working just as well as before though 👍
Hi Sam, I was looking forward to this video. Great one again. Quick question on the rear electric hand brake: I suppose you unlocked it first then slacked off the brake a bit further using the screw? And can I be sure that it stays off while working on it? (And not puts the e-hand brake on while the disk is off)
Unlucky with that bleed nipple, had same on my L322. Simon M
Sod’s Law!
My 07L322 has brembo. But they’re just plain metal
I think earlier cars had the 4 pot Brembo front calipers, and then for 1 year (2009-2010) they went to a non Brembo sliding caliper, and then 2010-12 they went to these 6 pot Brembo calipers.
@@SamsMotors L322 really was the unloved step child eh 😂
Five hundred quid for a pair of secondhand callipers? Fuck me O'Riley!
You should see the new prices from LR 😵
@@SamsMotors yes I bet that's cosmetic surgery prices! ( an arm and a leg and two bollocks! )
BREMBO reads left to right on either side 🙄🙄🙄
Refurb them and flog them for £500 😂
Plan :D