do your best and just ignore what you can't get. i say even ignore a couple of early 3.0 unit and look at the supports. my e0s0 jingliu 2 cycle the bug with sunday, huohuo, and robin just show how pulling for support is what we all should do going forward especially if you already have some number of limited dps.
@@vander1135 brutherr I have every harmony unit in the game except huohuo (idk if huohuo really counts as one but might as well be) Yea I agree about the 80 jades it doesn't really matter that much but the Hp bloat just feels so bad in this moc
For anyone wondering. I don't have any signature lightcones except Sunday. No jq for acheron or topas for feixiao No edilions. Yes i have maxxed the traces I don't have crazy good relic luck but somehow my shitty relics haven't stopped me from clearing the endgame till now . You can't just deny the HP bloat they are doing even if you did beat the latest moc (congratulations if you did) And please keep in mind i am a f2p who can't just get everything a character needs.
I beated MOC, im a new player 3 months in tu the game and yes i have Linghsa as my first 5 star and Rappa, i had tu mix som teammates with Acheron team so i beated in 10 cycles! It was hard buth i tought its bcz im new and my characters r not all full builded + i was using a 4 star Pela!
I actually did every freaking quest and event just to get rappa and her lc bc her ultimate animation was so sick i had to skip sunday and not gonna lie getting her was a great pay off maybe bc they made all the endgame levels for her but stil she is a super break character so she's bound to be good for atleat until 4.0 but still if you want to pull a new character i recommend pulling lingsh bc she's the real meta at this point😅
Same F2P here. I wasn't able to beat it in 10 cycles like yesterday, but then I built some speed relics and finally cleared it! :) I guess I had pretty good relics until this MoC, but the HP inflation is indeed crazy. I'm just gonna pull Hertha now because she will surely be godlike for a couple of patches until some stronger figures appear (e.g., Castorice/Mydei/Phaenon).
Hey! As a fellow f2p, you're not alone in this. Today I cleared with 12 cycles and these were my teams: Kafka E0S0 Black Swan E0S0 Ruan Mei E0S0 Bailu E0S0 No good ice or imaginary characters so Acheron E0S0 Aventurine E0S0 Jiaoqiu E0S0 Sparkle E0S1 I don't have fitefly or Feixiao because I don't like them. Everyone says to keep investing in your characters and I wanted to invest into Sparkle because she is my fav and she is a support. And suddenly she got powercrept. People just keep telling you to invest into the right characters as if you can tell the future and know that Firefly is gonna do the same amount as Acheron but with less investment. I pull for signature supports, I get signiture relic sets and I hit the recommended stat requirements that are for each character on Prydwen and it is still not enough. I'm gonna pull for THerta now and her sig lightcone and maybe try for E1, because I want her to last more than 1 patch, but even that investment has a limit. Just look at Seele and Jingliu who is being dragged by every new support with their eidolons for 5% more dmg. At some point, it's just not worth it, so don't beat yourself over it
@iamOran I already have a lot of lighting dpses - Kafka, Acheron and Jing Yuan, so I want to invest into a dps of a new element. Thanks for the suggestion tho
Personally, im f2p too and it wasn't hard, actually this is the first time i finished MoC with all 3 stars, and my team was this: Acheron (E0S1) Jiaoqiu (E0S0) Pela (E1S0) Gallagher (E4S5(with the rupture lightcone he has) The second team was this: Jade (E1S0) Herta (E6S0) Robin (E0S1) Huohuo (E0S0) And i somehow did it on 23 turns, so idk honestly, cuz i did it and im goated GG
@iamOran Then use what you like to play honestly, i started playing when Firefly's banner was about to end, like 3 days before it changed to Jade's banner, then i just started playing, and only pulling for chatacters i like... Except for Jq, he was NEEDED for Acheron.
Yes it's a you say but hey, it's not that if you can't get those 80 gems your life will change.... you can still enjoy the game without getting 36 stars every time, in some patches I can in some not, but I'm still enjoying the game.
For me its not about the primo but something like an achivement for time and effort you put into the game and maximize charater. Imagine you have invest old charater that you really like but get wash just less in 3 - 6 month. just my opinion
@@kevinang9977 I get what you mean, and i kind of agree, but I also think: what if you just have to build a few characters and you then are able to easily complete all the contents with those few character, forever...you will have no challenge and no incentive on getting new fresh character, the game will then lack any challenge and it will also be boring.
Your relics is too trash, lightcones for charecter like Acheron and FF is really important, not any character needs their lightcone but this two are exceptional, if you have Robin, pls try using Feixiao instead of Acheron
@@duythainguyen3897also I really can't just get there lighcones if I don't have any jades left after getting them also relic luck is something I can't control , also I am an f2p so keep that in mind.
This is why I actually dropped the game. Regardless of what people say these characters are investments. Characters Become obsolete within a patch or two, so What's the point of spending money on this game? What's the point of pulling characters if they're going go bad anyway. Archeron is the archon of genshin, the void hunter of Zenless, the jinhsi magistrate of wuthering waves and she got reduced to a common 5 star when shes suppose to shine above the rest. They were not shy to put her in the dumpster after she had the most sales of any character i ever seen. Pure disrespect to our time, grind and money. Not to mention penacony was trash bc it was a movie instead of a video game and the monkey quest was garbage. They also trivalized trailblazers addition elements. We got that badass belobog fight and got fire, but the rest been given to us with no buildip, no fight or die and no real reason to why. Star rail sucks overall.
bro i started playing hsr in 2.4 just to get sparkle i was originally gonna dip out after i got her bc playing 2 gachas was too much for me but the game hooked, me now fast forward to today i got 2 pretty good teams fei/ave/robin/march and firefly/lingsha/hmc/fugue (dont have ruan mei bc no re run rip bozo) my artefacts are not the best but are well above average and i still can't clear moc 12 in time i feel like with that kind of teams i should be able to clear this shit with eyes closed in genshin i still can use childe national team that i builded in like 1.6 to clear almost everything also sunday powercreeping sparkle was just salt in the wound lmao
@@iamOran welp i was thinking of pulling her instead of ave she is cool and i really like how her ult looks, i heard when she was released she was the best dps in the game by a long mile its sad how fast they powercreep her i fear the same fate will come to fei :((
The problem that i can see, it's that you are building your character bad, 1 simple thing, i use the same teams as you, without Adventurine, and FF, besides i use FX and 7M on the hunt path, and clear it, within 21 cycles, for one simple thing, the troters always do an exponential damage to the boss based on his max %, with the correct damage of your chars, it is pretty easy to clear it, so, you should check your items, cuz no, no eidolos, no only RM signature LC, and still cleared, Pretty easy, with "worse" units, in order to keep clearing the MOC, 1rst, you should learn to exploit the buff, 2nd, invest in your team, max out their traces, look for better stats with the relics, Cuz, that's why u pulled for them, dedicate the enough time to make them better, if not, then why are you playing the game?
First of all less than 10% players even attempt the endgame an average player really doesn't care about the game endgame and they can still Play if they want. You can't just say DON'T play the game however obviously I don't come into those players category. Also I do have the traces maxxed. But relics are something I can't just get better ones it's too dependent on luck . Also I don't have any signature light cones or edilions expect Sunday's.
@@iamOran No no, u missunderstand the point, i never said DONT play the game, i said, If you DONT want to dedicate time to make your characters, then why are u playing it?, it's a simple question, i do understand than the ones who go for the end game are the minority, BUT, that minority actually plays the game, the rest are just casuals who dont even care about it, so, IF YOU care about clearing the end game, then YOU are a minority who is supposed to actually CARE about their characters, and as i mention to you, neither i have signatures LC, Only RM, and yeah, the relics are rng, totally, but you can actually focus on one character untill is done cuz you already pulled for it, so it means that you actually want to use it, if you only pulled, armed with the first thing you found and expected to clear all the end game easy, then, budy, you are crazy.
@@captaindara9748 yes but I have well invested units evey trace is maxxed with good supports , even if I did manage to beat it the hp bloat is still there .
@@iamOran Yeah, totally, i'm not denying the HP inflation, the point is, that the actual buff of the MOC/APOS/PF are made to actually beat it, cuz in this case MOC, always do damage in % to the HP, so it doesn't matter if the Boss have 10M of life, the buff will made from 10 to 20% (based on the buff) son teorically speaking, with a good armed team which deals at least 1 to 2m damage in 5 cycles, you should clear each round, and reach that total amount of damage it's easy, i'll be fully worried when the MOC buff gets nerfed, that day, the HP inflation will be a real problem.
@@captaindara9748 apparently I still can't beat it and my acheron is doing around 400k to 500k every ult and I think I'm done with it 80 jades ain't worth it
I am predicting the comments section is gonna fill with
Pull Jiaoqiu for Acheron
Pull Fugue for Firefly
Pull Sunday for Algae
Pull Jade for The Herta
@@ahzplay5264 at least I got Sunday lol and the only reason I got got him is because I skipped those units
What you said is coming true
tbf fugue isnt that big of an upgrade for fire compared to the others on the list
@@technodry3216 I don't have her but she is definitely a big upgrade from hmc for sure especially if you have rappa
@@iamOran why did you roll for Sunday?
do your best and just ignore what you can't get. i say even ignore a couple of early 3.0 unit and look at the supports. my e0s0 jingliu 2 cycle the bug with sunday, huohuo, and robin just show how pulling for support is what we all should do going forward especially if you already have some number of limited dps.
@@vander1135 brutherr I have every harmony unit in the game except huohuo (idk if huohuo really counts as one but might as well be)
Yea I agree about the 80 jades it doesn't really matter that much but the Hp bloat just feels so bad in this moc
For anyone wondering.
I don't have any signature lightcones except Sunday.
No jq for acheron or topas for feixiao
No edilions.
Yes i have maxxed the traces
I don't have crazy good relic luck but somehow my shitty relics haven't stopped me from clearing the endgame till now .
You can't just deny the HP bloat they are doing even if you did beat the latest moc (congratulations if you did)
And please keep in mind i am a f2p who can't just get everything a character needs.
I beated MOC, im a new player 3 months in tu the game and yes i have Linghsa as my first 5 star and Rappa, i had tu mix som teammates with Acheron team so i beated in 10 cycles!
It was hard buth i tought its bcz im new and my characters r not all full builded + i was using a 4 star Pela!
@@cipriangold4220 rappa is diabolical in this moc
I actually did every freaking quest and event just to get rappa and her lc bc her ultimate animation was so sick i had to skip sunday and not gonna lie getting her was a great pay off maybe bc they made all the endgame levels for her but stil she is a super break character so she's bound to be good for atleat until 4.0 but still if you want to pull a new character i recommend pulling lingsh bc she's the real meta at this point😅
@@mouhamadnaif4173 I'll save for aglaea , something tells me she's gonna be good lmao
@ NAAAH Bro got some prophecy or something because you are on stand to pull aglaea (i mean I also did that when I saw rappa so no judging)😂😅
@@mouhamadnaif4173 we all get some divination here and there about things 🥸
Same F2P here. I wasn't able to beat it in 10 cycles like yesterday, but then I built some speed relics and finally cleared it! :)
I guess I had pretty good relics until this MoC, but the HP inflation is indeed crazy.
I'm just gonna pull Hertha now because she will surely be godlike for a couple of patches until some stronger figures appear (e.g., Castorice/Mydei/Phaenon).
@@killingwolf5842 ey man congrats on clearing it for me I like my sanity more lmao
Don't forget about aglaea, she is about to pop off too
Hey! As a fellow f2p, you're not alone in this. Today I cleared with 12 cycles and these were my teams:
Kafka E0S0
Black Swan E0S0
Ruan Mei E0S0
Bailu E0S0
No good ice or imaginary characters so
Acheron E0S0
Aventurine E0S0
Jiaoqiu E0S0
Sparkle E0S1
I don't have fitefly or Feixiao because I don't like them. Everyone says to keep investing in your characters and I wanted to invest into Sparkle because she is my fav and she is a support. And suddenly she got powercrept. People just keep telling you to invest into the right characters as if you can tell the future and know that Firefly is gonna do the same amount as Acheron but with less investment. I pull for signature supports, I get signiture relic sets and I hit the recommended stat requirements that are for each character on Prydwen and it is still not enough. I'm gonna pull for THerta now and her sig lightcone and maybe try for E1, because I want her to last more than 1 patch, but even that investment has a limit. Just look at Seele and Jingliu who is being dragged by every new support with their eidolons for 5% more dmg. At some point, it's just not worth it, so don't beat yourself over it
@@vivid7608 I feel you , just a suggestion maybe get aglaea instead of e1 THerta but if you don't want to that's fine .
@iamOran I already have a lot of lighting dpses - Kafka, Acheron and Jing Yuan, so I want to invest into a dps of a new element. Thanks for the suggestion tho
i just saw a video using f2p serval 3 stars moc 12 just now,
@@MaybeNotSafe can you tell me the channel or link?
Personally, im f2p too and it wasn't hard, actually this is the first time i finished MoC with all 3 stars, and my team was this:
Acheron (E0S1)
Jiaoqiu (E0S0)
Pela (E1S0)
Gallagher (E4S5(with the rupture lightcone he has)
The second team was this:
Jade (E1S0)
Herta (E6S0)
Robin (E0S1)
Huohuo (E0S0)
And i somehow did it on 23 turns, so idk honestly, cuz i did it and im goated GG
I don't have acheron s1 or jq also I don't have jade or her e1 also no huohuo
@iamOran Then use what you like to play honestly, i started playing when Firefly's banner was about to end, like 3 days before it changed to Jade's banner, then i just started playing, and only pulling for chatacters i like... Except for Jq, he was NEEDED for Acheron.
Yes it's a you say but hey, it's not that if you can't get those 80 gems your life will change.... you can still enjoy the game without getting 36 stars every time, in some patches I can in some not, but I'm still enjoying the game.
@@davidez4640 yes I agree I'm just ranting about how much hp bloat this moc has I don't really care bout half a pull
For me its not about the primo but something like an achivement for time and effort you put into the game and maximize charater. Imagine you have invest old charater that you really like but get wash just less in 3 - 6 month. just my opinion
@@kevinang9977 I get what you mean, and i kind of agree, but I also think: what if you just have to build a few characters and you then are able to easily complete all the contents with those few character, forever...you will have no challenge and no incentive on getting new fresh character, the game will then lack any challenge and it will also be boring.
With full respect and not labelling you as greedy, on a scale of 1-10, how greedy do you think you are?
@@youwatchtube69203 I never said I wanted the measly 80 jades it's the hp inflation I'm talking about
I would say I'm 11/10 on the greedy scale 🥸
Just check your prf and come into conclusion that your account deserves to not pass this season of MoC
Your relics is too trash, lightcones for charecter like Acheron and FF is really important, not any character needs their lightcone but this two are exceptional, if you have Robin, pls try using Feixiao instead of Acheron
@@duythainguyen3897 I already used her
@@duythainguyen3897also I really can't just get there lighcones if I don't have any jades left after getting them also relic luck is something I can't control , also I am an f2p so keep that in mind.
Using Feixiao in this MOC is crazy
This is why I actually dropped the game. Regardless of what people say these characters are investments. Characters
Become obsolete within a patch or two, so What's the point of spending money on this game? What's the point of pulling characters if they're going go bad anyway.
Archeron is the archon of genshin, the void hunter of Zenless, the jinhsi magistrate of wuthering waves and she got reduced to a common 5 star when shes suppose to shine above the rest. They were not shy to put her in the dumpster after she had the most sales of any character i ever seen. Pure disrespect to our time, grind and money.
Not to mention penacony was trash bc it was a movie instead of a video game and the monkey quest was garbage. They also trivalized trailblazers addition elements. We got that badass belobog fight and got fire, but the rest been given to us with no buildip, no fight or die and no real reason to why. Star rail sucks overall.
@@banner7310 I agree with the acheron take for sure also yes the banana quest was asss ngl
bro i started playing hsr in 2.4 just to get sparkle i was originally gonna dip out after i got her bc playing 2 gachas was too much for me but the game hooked, me now fast forward to today i got 2 pretty good teams fei/ave/robin/march and firefly/lingsha/hmc/fugue (dont have ruan mei bc no re run rip bozo) my artefacts are not the best but are well above average and i still can't clear moc 12 in time i feel like with that kind of teams i should be able to clear this shit with eyes closed in genshin i still can use childe national team that i builded in like 1.6 to clear almost everything also sunday powercreeping sparkle was just salt in the wound lmao
@@karymdok yep Powercreep indeed is crazy with this moc
@@karymdok also aglaea 😆👍
@@iamOran
Wait I didn't see leaks about her this much I only know she is a summon dps did sie powercreeps anyone?? Or there is something else
@@karymdok she seems to be Powercreeping acheron but not entirely sure.
@@iamOran welp i was thinking of pulling her instead of ave she is cool and i really like how her ult looks, i heard when she was released she was the best dps in the game by a long mile its sad how fast they powercreep her i fear the same fate will come to fei :((
The problem that i can see, it's that you are building your character bad, 1 simple thing, i use the same teams as you, without Adventurine, and FF, besides i use FX and 7M on the hunt path, and clear it, within 21 cycles, for one simple thing, the troters always do an exponential damage to the boss based on his max %, with the correct damage of your chars, it is pretty easy to clear it, so, you should check your items, cuz no, no eidolos, no only RM signature LC, and still cleared, Pretty easy, with "worse" units, in order to keep clearing the MOC, 1rst, you should learn to exploit the buff, 2nd, invest in your team, max out their traces, look for better stats with the relics, Cuz, that's why u pulled for them, dedicate the enough time to make them better, if not, then why are you playing the game?
First of all less than 10% players even attempt the endgame an average player really doesn't care about the game endgame and they can still Play if they want. You can't just say DON'T play the game however obviously I don't come into those players category.
Also I do have the traces maxxed.
But relics are something I can't just get better ones it's too dependent on luck .
Also I don't have any signature light cones or edilions expect Sunday's.
@@iamOran No no, u missunderstand the point, i never said DONT play the game, i said, If you DONT want to dedicate time to make your characters, then why are u playing it?, it's a simple question, i do understand than the ones who go for the end game are the minority, BUT, that minority actually plays the game, the rest are just casuals who dont even care about it, so, IF YOU care about clearing the end game, then YOU are a minority who is supposed to actually CARE about their characters, and as i mention to you, neither i have signatures LC, Only RM, and yeah, the relics are rng, totally, but you can actually focus on one character untill is done cuz you already pulled for it, so it means that you actually want to use it, if you only pulled, armed with the first thing you found and expected to clear all the end game easy, then, budy, you are crazy.
@@captaindara9748 yes but I have well invested units evey trace is maxxed with good supports , even if I did manage to beat it the hp bloat is still there .
@@iamOran Yeah, totally, i'm not denying the HP inflation, the point is, that the actual buff of the MOC/APOS/PF are made to actually beat it, cuz in this case MOC, always do damage in % to the HP, so it doesn't matter if the Boss have 10M of life, the buff will made from 10 to 20% (based on the buff) son teorically speaking, with a good armed team which deals at least 1 to 2m damage in 5 cycles, you should clear each round, and reach that total amount of damage it's easy, i'll be fully worried when the MOC buff gets nerfed, that day, the HP inflation will be a real problem.
@@captaindara9748 apparently I still can't beat it and my acheron is doing around 400k to 500k every ult and I think I'm done with it 80 jades ain't worth it