Check out the Nat Sci Building. There was a working seismometer in a display window in the hall. They also had a great student geology club. Lots of fun people!
Marie Tharp's story is amazing, and doesn't end in just this 5 minute video. I Highly reccommend the biography written about her: Soundings, by Hali Felt. It's written as part a regular biography, part Felt's own journy uncovering Thrap's life, and part novelization of scenes from actual events.
Alfred Wegener: Hey, the continents look as though they fit together, so the surface of the Earth must be drifting. Everyone else: You're a crackpot, mate. Marie Tharp: I've found evidence proving the surface of the Earth is drifting. Everyone else: That's just girl talk.
Scientist: Let's make a map of the ocean in order to get a better understanding of the earth Scientist Later: I don't like the scientific understanding that I am obtaining from this map therefore it is all girl talk
Whenever scientists discover some result that seems to go against the general consensus at the time, it's only natural to first think about if they just did the calculation wrong somewhere. A lot of time, it really is just human error, like that neutrino that supposed but didn't actually went faster than light speed from a while back. Calculation error is a lot more common than big breakthrough afterall.
@@neilburnside398 Scientists: "If A happens, then 90% of the time it's because of B." You: "Ha! So you're saying C doesn't exist?!" Scientists: "Our heads hurt enough from trying to understand the world, without face-palming when confronted with your idiocy." Please either start thinking or stop typing....
I remember looking at the inside covers of the Encyclopedia we had at home. I was maybe 7 or 8 years old and I loved looking at these grooves in the middle of the oceans. I would imagine big underwater mountain ranges and deep sea creatures Thanks Marie Tharp Rest in peace.
In 1968, I had a science teacher who not only didn't believe in continental drift, he didn't know that the theory existed. He said that the S. America/Africa shapes were just coincidences and that continents didn't move. I had such great teachers.
Did I miss something? It looks to me like he’s expressing disdain and mock surprise for an obviously outdated view that he thinks very little of. I’ve only seen a few hours of Hank’s content, but he really doesn’t come off as a misogynist. Thoroughly nice chap, in my opinion.
Awesome historical information about the contribution of a woman scientist...who wasn't respected or given righteous credit and accolades for furthering humanity's knowledge base! This information is extremely fascinating!
@@theluckyaceco I hate to be proven wrong, BUT I can't stand to think what I know is based on wrong information in light of there being correct information, so I don't care if it's a woman who has come up with the correct information...I care more about the truths built on confirmed facts.
Wait wait wait, they called it "sounding" when it was just a weight on a string, but then they invented a way to do it with _literal sound waves,_ and decided to call that sonar? Oceanographers are wild, man.
Being a biologist myself and seeing that map near the end of the video where one can very precisely see the transformation of pangea to what it is now I cannot help but wonder is there a scishow video explaining the ever slow process of the change, combined with the evolution, migration and metapopulation of all living things notably flora more so than fauna to where we are now. Moreover proof that the continents were once one giant land mass? If not do it do it do it do it please 🤟🏾😎👍🏾 Love what you guys do for science ♥️
I wonder whether if Tharp had been a man would we talk about the Tharp Ridge? When I taught History in a girls' school I decided to create a display on the stairway to the History Department showing women who had made significant contributions to the modern world. I gave up as there was so little information readily available at the time. So glad to see videos like this, even though I am now retired and have no practical use for them.
Hank...I subscribe to this channel. Today my introduction assignment in Paleontology was to write about a "dead geologist" and I chose Marie Tharp. Pop on UA-cam to get my details straight..5 days after you made one. Weird timing, but also weird that YT doesn't show me videos from one of the few channels I sub.
Wonderful 😊 info on the reality of undersea's shifting tectonic plates and their discoverer..., and their effects on the ocean's 🌊 🌊 "Island-Killer"-"Tsunami" Waves! 🌊
Such a cool feature, and mocks sexism in the PERFECT way by making it seem dumb and stupid and working against actual progress. Her raw talent, guts and data made us a lot safer and a lot more intelligent. I love seafloor stuff and hadn’t heard of her amazing work. I loved this video. Thank you for it. And thank you Tharp!
but 95% of scientists are men, why do you let this single anecdote influence your opinion? the statistics support the "sexists" and if you really cared about science you would know that
@@lilurri i think we shouldn't try to use feminism as an excuse to get more women into a field they wouldn't naturally be in, and we should just let things take their course without artificially inflating the importance of female scientists
@@classygentlemangaming8400 that ignores the current situation, in which girls are actively and passively discouraged from entering STEM fields. Countering that narrative by recognizing the accomplishments of female scientists is just one way to address the disparity. Aside from that, your statement was factually inaccurate as well, as it only counts the achievements of the privileged few, and does not take into account opportunities lost by excluding minorities of all types (including women). There are studies showing that more diverse teams are more effective (www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/04/business-case-for-diversity-in-the-workplace/), which matches neatly with the exponential increase in the velocity of scientific progress that has coincided with ever greater numbers of women and other minorities successfully fighting their way into the scientific community.
What exciting science. Thank you Marie. It's sad she wasnt taken seriously and was dismissed because of her gender. It makes you wonder how much culture and science and everything else we've lost over the years thanks to misogynistic dismissal of women's ideas
Wegener lit the torch, Tharp carried it. Wegener died before his theory of continental drift was accepted, and was ridiculed during his entire carrier.
It would eventually become pretty much the same as now due to the fact that continents slam into each other, pull apart, etc. Ofc, it would take millions or even billions of years, but it would eventually happen.
the discovery of the atlantic and pacific ridges gave credibility to the hypothesis but the crucial data that confirmed it was the discovery of the symmetrical magnetic banding either sideve the ridges
My wife was on the very first team to map the sea floor under parts of the Antarctic ice sheet that had never been accessible until recently. They did swath bathymetry from an icebreaker.
Good episode, Hank. It would be neat to see an episode about how the search for MH370 has given us new information about the Indian Ocean. I have seen bits and pieces through MH370 documentaries, but it would be interesting to see what has been done with the ocean floor data that they have gathered through the searching of the plane.
If only 6% of the ocean floor has been mapped 'in detail', why do maps of the ocean floor (as seen in this video 04:30 and elsewhere) look so detailed? I guess the answer has to do with what you define as 'in detail', which has to do with spacial resolution. But the maps look pretty detailed to me -- so what am I missing?
The other shoe that dropped on continental drift also came from military data, begun in WW2 so submarines wouldn't run into underwater mountains or have confused compasses: it was noted that magnetic orientation of crustal data often shifted or reversed over some distances, and this was also mapped for military reasons. By the 1950's this was released to the scientists who used it to "prove" continental drift. This aspect of geologic discovery owes much to the needs of military submarines.
She also advanced appreciation of the female of our species. The male since the beginning of our time did just the opposite, couldn't stand to not have someone to put down and dominate. Most young men today have at least a decent view of women for the most part. I thought we'd never get here. Thanks, guys.
Thanks guys? For what? For treating women like human beings and not discriminate against them, after women fought for it over and over again? Which is not even the truth, have you been lately on social media or out of your house? Most men still discriminate against women and are disrespectful
Man: Dismissed woman's work because she's a woman... Woman: Remembered for making a major discovery about the Earth while the dismissive man is forgotten... :P
@@ArawnOfAnnwn **Woman: Remembered for making a major discovery about the Earth (because it is a major, hard earned discovery!) while the dismissive man is forgotten. FTFY :)
@@ArawnOfAnnwn we acknowledge it's a major discovery, yes, but differ on why it is being remembered. 1) absolutely did not negate the role of her gender in her dismissal. Where did I do that? 2) you're right. I'm hoping she's further remembered for her work than her gender. Your first FTFY made it sound like she's remembered just because she's a woman. I hope that isn't the case.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn can't a woman scientist or a person of colour be spoken about without it being called affirmative action? I get where you're coming from. It's not just Scishow, a lot of content is now centred around women/coloured/lgbtqia people. But they have long since deserved this attention, rather than their ideas being dismissed as things like 'girl talk'. Nobody bats an eye when a video details the successes of a male scientist. Yet when a woman is celebrated its affirmative action? When is it 'normal' recognition and when is it affirmative action? Also did you just randomly pull up 3 Scishow videos of women and a black scientist to solidify your case? Again, at what point can you judge a video as legit or 'a deliberate attempt to highlight more women icons of the past'? Why not pull up every such video made by Scishow?
@@ArawnOfAnnwn "Whether they deserve it or not doesn't change what it is" What? You mean to say you'll have a problem every time a minority of the past deserving of recognition is praised? Also, again, you're right. Today, we don't lift women scientists on a pedestal and sing their praises; we treat them like normal people doing science things. That's because in today's day and age, doing science isn't gendered (mostly!) like it was in the past. Today, it is delightfully normal (again, 'mostly'). Almost all Nobel Prize winners of the past in science are men. Like Tharp, women had to fight off demeaning phrases like 'Girl Talk' and peer attitudes that did not help their careers. Their discoveries were stolen and cited as men's discoveries. And I'm sure you know the absolutely tragic story of Alan Turing. So yes, these people are DEFINITELY Icons Of Representation for their time, and should be remembered as such - they stuck with the science in the face of people who blew them off. Like you are now, too. A current, history-in-the-making example, non science related, is Kamala Harris. 20 years in the future there will a video talking about her and a Mendicant Bias will call it affirmative action, "whether she deserves the recognition or not". Nevermind the fact that every VP before her was a white, old male. Nevermind how significant a fact that is. Nevermind that she will be an icon for other aspiring black and women politicians. No. She's not being treated like any other white, old, former VP so it's "affirmative action".
@@ArawnOfAnnwn And most males are prized and get possibilities and jobs just for being males, even tyrants are remembered as heroes, just for being a male, you don't sound very bright, kid. You argue like a triggered 5 year old, with no logic. I'm pretty sure she is not remembered only because she is a woman? Do men never get prized and remembered? What a triggered nonsense comment, tell me you are an angry male, without telling me you are an angry male. Boy, you played yourself, It's not Tharp's fault you're still a virgin
I hate to be that guy, truly, but the man she assisted was named Bruce Heezen, not Brian. Also he was kind of a piece of work, if the "girl talk" comment didn't already tip you off. He was the one trying to use this data to support the expanding earth theory, and all the while Tharp was attempting to slyly convince him he was wrong while simultaneously interpreting the data into a map that would become some of the most important evidence against his ideas. She played the long game and it payed off.
I agree but it should go both ways when we're talking about things like this. They were different times. Just being a woman or having a different color skin was a problem. I'm sure they'll look back at today in the future and point out some laughable things we do. We humans are constantly evolving and so does our society. Until it all falls apart which is only a matter of time.
No, the speed of sound is actually only dependent on material properties and temperature. If anything the cold depths would slightly decrease the speed of sound. Fluid mechanics be wack
@@kevinstrout630 That is incorrect actually! The speed of sound in water is effected by temperature, salinity, AND pressure. The speed of sound does actually increase at greater depths, though temperature is a much bigger factor with sound speed. You should google "sound speed profile" which is a measurement of sound speed at various depths. Any example of deep ocean sound speed profiles have sound speed going up gradually with depth.
Why is UA-cam linking a Britanica article about the "supernatural" elements of the Bermuda triangle? Kinda delegitimizes this perfectly fine historical and scientific video, like it is also about supernatural and unexplained phenomenon.
We have come a long way in that we can see now that saying something like, "that's just girl talk," is wrong on so many levels, and that's a good thing. But we still have a long way to go because there are men out there who still think like that.
Some people thought it was thermal expansion, but they never managed to give a good explanation of what was heating the earth's core. Some other people thought that the earth was gaining mass by absorbing stuff from the aether (which of course does not exist).
Imagine your whole life and possibilities you got in life are very discriminatory and limited, all based on your gender and you still make it to a place where they tell you constantly you don't belong to and your statements are "Girl Talk", basically belittle you every single day, basically you never had a chance to build an ego. But still you are able to focus, stay emotionally strong and believe in yourself, in the genius you are. Imagine if there was no discrimination, with these abilities and strong will that women have, they would have not only ruled the world, but we would live in a much more advanced world.
Continents moving around the face of the earth like balls on a pool table has never made sense to me. Now an expanding earth would fracture all around the surface and with continued expansion those cracks would open into wider areas of newly produced surfaces that would be both lower and younger than the original surface. Water would run off into these basins and so on.............but no, they decide to go with the theory that rifts open over here at the same time they are closing over there without affecting the overall size of the surface of the planet. And apparently it has always been this way. I dont get it.
@@lilurri Mark Twain means Mark 3 meters of water. A boatsman would throw a line/ sinker into the water to sound for depth. And Samual Clemons took that for hit pin name. 🚤
How about a series of "Girl Talk" videos, featuring women who've made huge steps in advancing our scientific understanding of the Universe, and everything in it.
@@SuviTuuliAllan Possibly...possibly not. It would depend, in part, how the videos were presented - the SciShow team know how to produce quality content, and the subscriber base on here would, as far as I could imagine, be pretty receptive to such a series of videos...if done correctly. There doesn't need to be any message or agenda - just a series of informative pieces like this upload. I'd certainly be curious to know more about women's contribution to science.
@@classygentlemangaming8400 Dude, just google it. I am a STEM student, and in my class there are only 6 guys, and like 25 girls. Math, chemistry and physics departaments on my college are also mostly women, both students and professors.
Recurring theme in scientific history: woman discovers something, man discounts it because it came from a woman, woman is ultimately proven correct. Hopefully we have finally gotten past this.
@@classygentlemangaming8400 Wow. That's a pretty misogynistic statement. Has is occurred to you why there are so many more male scientists? It sure as hell isn't because women can't do it. It's because your kind of attitude still exists in the world and is still discouraging girls and women from pursuing careers in scientific fields.
It's as easy as knowing how high a cloud is by just looking at it...oh wait. -_- Even if you could see to the bottom of the ocean, what's your reference point to measure distance when it's just kms of water?
Dunno how knowing the details of the ocean floor is that important. It's not like real estate developers are going to be putting cities there anytime soon and need to know which areas to avoid.
It's not easy to be seen as a stupid dog to men whom are physically stronger and so much more powerful. But in fact be so much smarter. Tough life the women lived. And some still do.
@@classygentlemangaming8400 Yeah, we all know why, and it's not because they are smarter. The vast majority of violent criminals are also male, but you don't want to have anything to do with that, right?
@@surgigi1582 that's the evolutionary trade off for men, higher levels of competitiveness means higher drive to achieve but also means being more aggressive
she was alive while i was alive, that is wild to me. our advances in the last century are pretty mental.
This lady is my hero, im so glad you made a vid about her. Im currently studying to get in the seismic survey faculty in the msu.
Check out the Nat Sci Building. There was a working seismometer in a display window in the hall. They also had a great student geology club. Lots of fun people!
Marie Tharp's story is amazing, and doesn't end in just this 5 minute video. I Highly reccommend the biography written about her: Soundings, by Hali Felt. It's written as part a regular biography, part Felt's own journy uncovering Thrap's life, and part novelization of scenes from actual events.
Alfred Wegener: Hey, the continents look as though they fit together, so the surface of the Earth must be drifting.
Everyone else: You're a crackpot, mate.
Marie Tharp: I've found evidence proving the surface of the Earth is drifting.
Everyone else: That's just girl talk.
Scientist: Let's make a map of the ocean in order to get a better understanding of the earth
Scientist Later: I don't like the scientific understanding that I am obtaining from this map therefore it is all girl talk
Whenever scientists discover some result that seems to go against the general consensus at the time, it's only natural to first think about if they just did the calculation wrong somewhere. A lot of time, it really is just human error, like that neutrino that supposed but didn't actually went faster than light speed from a while back. Calculation error is a lot more common than big breakthrough afterall.
@@michaeltan7625 This.
Though calling it girl talk was still pretty mean.
@@michaeltan7625 because of course misogyny doesn't exist... at all.
@@michaeltan7625 My guess is that if it a man had suggested that there was a rift down there, the response wouldn't have been, "that's just boy talk."
@@neilburnside398
Scientists: "If A happens, then 90% of the time it's because of B."
You: "Ha! So you're saying C doesn't exist?!"
Scientists: "Our heads hurt enough from trying to understand the world, without face-palming when confronted with your idiocy."
Please either start thinking or stop typing....
It’s so weird that the measuring method called sounding is not the one that uses the speed of sound
Using a fathometer, the sonar instrument mentioned in this video, retains that name incidentally enough. You take soundings with sound these days.
Googling sounding returned interesting results
I remember looking at the inside covers of the Encyclopedia we had at home. I was maybe 7 or 8 years old and I loved looking at these grooves in the middle of the oceans. I would imagine big underwater mountain ranges and deep sea creatures
Thanks Marie Tharp
Rest in peace.
Continental Drift. The lost sequel to Fast And Furious Tokyo Drift.
🤣🤣🤣
Slow and Phlegmatic Continental Drift... coming to you... sometime in the next 200 millennia.
Ice Age: Continental Drift (2012)
What an amazing contribution to Geology and Earth Science Marie Tharp made with the discovery of the Mid Atlantic ridge!
Thanx , and excellent timing MS. Tharp.
In 1968, I had a science teacher who not only didn't believe in continental drift, he didn't know that the theory existed. He said that the S. America/Africa shapes were just coincidences and that continents didn't move. I had such great teachers.
Hank looked so Uncomfortable and kind of disbelieving when quoting that "girl talk" diss
You'd be shocked how often that happen even to this day. Men never change.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn It wasn't about Hank nor the video itself. Just being a woman with an idea can be a challenge in everyday life.
I like how he kind of procrastinated saying it, as if that line of the script would just go away and he wouldn't have to say it.
Did I miss something? It looks to me like he’s expressing disdain and mock surprise for an obviously outdated view that he thinks very little of. I’ve only seen a few hours of Hank’s content, but he really doesn’t come off as a misogynist. Thoroughly nice chap, in my opinion.
And from the entire team here at your subscribers, thank you for providing this episode.
1:22 Oh myyyy...
Awesome historical information about the contribution of a woman scientist...who wasn't respected or given righteous credit and accolades for furthering humanity's knowledge base! This information is extremely fascinating!
Can't lie, I love that she proved him wrong with his own data. I bet that stung.
@@theluckyaceco I hate to be proven wrong, BUT I can't stand to think what I know is based on wrong information in light of there being correct information, so I don't care if it's a woman who has come up with the correct information...I care more about the truths built on confirmed facts.
@@tommylee2894 Ah see, you're a decent person, that's the difference!
Wait wait wait, they called it "sounding" when it was just a weight on a string, but then they invented a way to do it with _literal sound waves,_ and decided to call that sonar? Oceanographers are wild, man.
If you think that's a weird use for the word "sounding", don't look up the meaning in urban dictionary.
@@Toastmaster_5000 maybe just don't look up the definition on there at all anyway
...............😖 yeah I looked it up
SONAR stands for sound navigation and ranging
Being a biologist myself and seeing that map near the end of the video where one can very precisely see the transformation of pangea to what it is now I cannot help but wonder is there a scishow video explaining the ever slow process of the change, combined with the evolution, migration and metapopulation of all living things notably flora more so than fauna to where we are now.
Moreover proof that the continents were once one giant land mass? If not do it do it do it do it please 🤟🏾😎👍🏾
Love what you guys do for science ♥️
PBS Eons has some fascinating videos on those topics, and Hank and Blake often host there
I wonder whether if Tharp had been a man would we talk about the Tharp Ridge? When I taught History in a girls' school I decided to create a display on the stairway to the History Department showing women who had made significant contributions to the modern world. I gave up as there was so little information readily available at the time. So glad to see videos like this, even though I am now retired and have no practical use for them.
Hank...I subscribe to this channel. Today my introduction assignment in Paleontology was to write about a "dead geologist" and I chose Marie Tharp. Pop on UA-cam to get my details straight..5 days after you made one. Weird timing, but also weird that YT doesn't show me videos from one of the few channels I sub.
Wonderful 😊 info on the reality of undersea's shifting tectonic plates and their discoverer..., and their effects on the ocean's 🌊 🌊
"Island-Killer"-"Tsunami" Waves! 🌊
"Sounding"
Boy I'm glad it's not the other type.
hahaha
Thanks internet...
The amount of effort it'd require to map out the entire ocean floor, boggles my mind.
Such a cool feature, and mocks sexism in the PERFECT way by making it seem dumb and stupid and working against actual progress. Her raw talent, guts and data made us a lot safer and a lot more intelligent. I love seafloor stuff and hadn’t heard of her amazing work. I loved this video. Thank you for it. And thank you Tharp!
but 95% of scientists are men, why do you let this single anecdote influence your opinion? the statistics support the "sexists" and if you really cared about science you would know that
@@classygentlemangaming8400 do you mean that you don't think women belong in science?
@@lilurri i think we shouldn't try to use feminism as an excuse to get more women into a field they wouldn't naturally be in, and we should just let things take their course without artificially inflating the importance of female scientists
@@classygentlemangaming8400 that ignores the current situation, in which girls are actively and passively discouraged from entering STEM fields.
Countering that narrative by recognizing the accomplishments of female scientists is just one way to address the disparity.
Aside from that, your statement was factually inaccurate as well, as it only counts the achievements of the privileged few, and does not take into account opportunities lost by excluding minorities of all types (including women).
There are studies showing that more diverse teams are more effective (www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/04/business-case-for-diversity-in-the-workplace/), which matches neatly with the exponential increase in the velocity of scientific progress that has coincided with ever greater numbers of women and other minorities successfully fighting their way into the scientific community.
@@MorgenPeschke there is no evidence that stem is systemically bias. And diversity decreases creativity on a society-wide scale.
"The earth is getting larger" this is on par with geocentrism!
What exciting science. Thank you Marie. It's sad she wasnt taken seriously and was dismissed because of her gender. It makes you wonder how much culture and science and everything else we've lost over the years thanks to misogynistic dismissal of women's ideas
Any chance of a Great Minds episode on Émilie du Châtelet?
You had me at "Meat Layers"! Gotta love this channel!
Love the gret mind series. Super inspiring. I've never heard of her before.
@3:29-No to continental drift. That theory postulates that the continents ‘plow’ or ‘drift’ through the oceans. You meant plate tectonics
I had always learned that Harry Hess was the one who discovered the mid-Atlantic Ridge. I’m happy to be wrong, but Hank can you clarify?
Wegener lit the torch, Tharp carried it. Wegener died before his theory of continental drift was accepted, and was ridiculed during his entire carrier.
It would be very interesting to see how the ocean would move etc if it DID have a flat bottom
It would eventually become pretty much the same as now due to the fact that continents slam into each other, pull apart, etc. Ofc, it would take millions or even billions of years, but it would eventually happen.
the discovery of the atlantic and pacific ridges gave credibility to the hypothesis but the crucial data that confirmed it was the discovery of the symmetrical magnetic banding either sideve the ridges
Once again, I'm asking for a "Great Minds" for Norman Borlaug :P
My wife was on the very first team to map the sea floor under parts of the Antarctic ice sheet that had never been accessible until recently. They did swath bathymetry from an icebreaker.
Never heard of her and I'm glad I now have. What a woman.
Really good summary.
Good episode, Hank. It would be neat to see an episode about how the search for MH370 has given us new information about the Indian Ocean. I have seen bits and pieces through MH370 documentaries, but it would be interesting to see what has been done with the ocean floor data that they have gathered through the searching of the plane.
Commenting on this just to give it more attention
If only 6% of the ocean floor has been mapped 'in detail', why do maps of the ocean floor (as seen in this video 04:30 and elsewhere) look so detailed? I guess the answer has to do with what you define as 'in detail', which has to do with spacial resolution. But the maps look pretty detailed to me -- so what am I missing?
The other shoe that dropped on continental drift also came from military data, begun in WW2 so submarines wouldn't run into underwater mountains or have confused compasses: it was noted that magnetic orientation of crustal data often shifted or reversed over some distances, and this was also mapped for military reasons. By the 1950's this was released to the scientists who used it to "prove" continental drift. This aspect of geologic discovery owes much to the needs of military submarines.
Its OK to be disrespectful to or about people who say something dumb and outdated. Hank is a super smart person that gets to sneer .
She also advanced appreciation of the female of our species. The male since the beginning of our time did just the opposite, couldn't stand to not have someone to put down and dominate. Most young men today have at least a decent view of women for the most part. I thought we'd never get here. Thanks, guys.
Thanks guys? For what? For treating women like human beings and not discriminate against them, after women fought for it over and over again? Which is not even the truth, have you been lately on social media or out of your house? Most men still discriminate against women and are disrespectful
Man: Dismissed woman's work because she's a woman...
Woman: Remembered for making a major discovery about the Earth while the dismissive man is forgotten... :P
@@ArawnOfAnnwn
**Woman: Remembered for making a major discovery about the Earth (because it is a major, hard earned discovery!) while the dismissive man is forgotten.
FTFY :)
@@ArawnOfAnnwn we acknowledge it's a major discovery, yes, but differ on why it is being remembered.
1) absolutely did not negate the role of her gender in her dismissal. Where did I do that?
2) you're right. I'm hoping she's further remembered for her work than her gender. Your first FTFY made it sound like she's remembered just because she's a woman. I hope that isn't the case.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn can't a woman scientist or a person of colour be spoken about without it being called affirmative action? I get where you're coming from. It's not just Scishow, a lot of content is now centred around women/coloured/lgbtqia people. But they have long since deserved this attention, rather than their ideas being dismissed as things like 'girl talk'.
Nobody bats an eye when a video details the successes of a male scientist. Yet when a woman is celebrated its affirmative action?
When is it 'normal' recognition and when is it affirmative action?
Also did you just randomly pull up 3 Scishow videos of women and a black scientist to solidify your case?
Again, at what point can you judge a video as legit or 'a deliberate attempt to highlight more women icons of the past'?
Why not pull up every such video made by Scishow?
@@ArawnOfAnnwn "Whether they deserve it or not doesn't change what it is"
What?
You mean to say you'll have a problem every time a minority of the past deserving of recognition is praised?
Also, again, you're right. Today, we don't lift women scientists on a pedestal and sing their praises; we treat them like normal people doing science things.
That's because in today's day and age, doing science isn't gendered (mostly!) like it was in the past. Today, it is delightfully normal (again, 'mostly').
Almost all Nobel Prize winners of the past in science are men. Like Tharp, women had to fight off demeaning phrases like 'Girl Talk' and peer attitudes that did not help their careers. Their discoveries were stolen and cited as men's discoveries. And I'm sure you know the absolutely tragic story of Alan Turing.
So yes, these people are DEFINITELY Icons Of Representation for their time, and should be remembered as such - they stuck with the science in the face of people who blew them off. Like you are now, too.
A current, history-in-the-making example, non science related, is Kamala Harris.
20 years in the future there will a video talking about her and a Mendicant Bias will call it affirmative action, "whether she deserves the recognition or not".
Nevermind the fact that every VP before her was a white, old male. Nevermind how significant a fact that is.
Nevermind that she will be an icon for other aspiring black and women politicians.
No. She's not being treated like any other white, old, former VP so it's "affirmative action".
@@ArawnOfAnnwn And most males are prized and get possibilities and jobs just for being males, even tyrants are remembered as heroes, just for being a male, you don't sound very bright, kid. You argue like a triggered 5 year old, with no logic. I'm pretty sure she is not remembered only because she is a woman? Do men never get prized and remembered? What a triggered nonsense comment, tell me you are an angry male, without telling me you are an angry male. Boy, you played yourself, It's not Tharp's fault you're still a virgin
Is there a spot in the ocean called "Girl Talk Valley"? Would have been nice she had embraced it to make her point.
I hate to be that guy, truly, but the man she assisted was named Bruce Heezen, not Brian. Also he was kind of a piece of work, if the "girl talk" comment didn't already tip you off. He was the one trying to use this data to support the expanding earth theory, and all the while Tharp was attempting to slyly convince him he was wrong while simultaneously interpreting the data into a map that would become some of the most important evidence against his ideas. She played the long game and it payed off.
I really truly wish that that was the only thing that "sounding" ever meant.
I couldn't help but grin when the word "sounding" came up
🤣🤣
Why?
@@nikkiofthevalley look it up on urbandictionary
Google Doodle sent me here, glad I found out about this lady and her contributions to science.
So many female heroes that didn't really get the recognition they deserved.
its actually the opposite, the achievements of women are disproportionately displayed and their merit is exaggerated
I agree but it should go both ways when we're talking about things like this. They were different times. Just being a woman or having a different color skin was a problem. I'm sure they'll look back at today in the future and point out some laughable things we do. We humans are constantly evolving and so does our society. Until it all falls apart which is only a matter of time.
@@classygentlemangaming8400 Not even true in the slightest, but whatever floats your boat I guess
@@surgigi1582 dispute made without evidence? Ignore.
Wouldn't the speed of sound change with the higher pressure under the water though?
No, the speed of sound is actually only dependent on material properties and temperature. If anything the cold depths would slightly decrease the speed of sound. Fluid mechanics be wack
@@kevinstrout630 That is incorrect actually! The speed of sound in water is effected by temperature, salinity, AND pressure. The speed of sound does actually increase at greater depths, though temperature is a much bigger factor with sound speed. You should google "sound speed profile" which is a measurement of sound speed at various depths. Any example of deep ocean sound speed profiles have sound speed going up gradually with depth.
*Just a friendly reminder to NOT google sounding* ❤️
Why is UA-cam linking a Britanica article about the "supernatural" elements of the Bermuda triangle? Kinda delegitimizes this perfectly fine historical and scientific video, like it is also about supernatural and unexplained phenomenon.
Plz do a video on activated carbon.... thanks your a great UA-camr
Sounding is now a different thing these days
Oh god
I was wondering if anybody was gonna comment on that lol
FLCL is a masterpiece
This is why we can't have nice things!
Hi Hank & Co.
How i wish someone had scanned the "Lagoa dos barros", it is a mysterious place close by of where i live.
What is mysterious about it?
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Unknown deptht.
Did these scientists think the Earth was slowly heating up? Or did they have an idea for how matter was getting inside the Earth?
Even her name destined her to work at sea
We have come a long way in that we can see now that saying something like, "that's just girl talk," is wrong on so many levels, and that's a good thing. But we still have a long way to go because there are men out there who still think like that.
Having worked in a research institute, there are still way too many male scientists still think like that.
There's a lot of great ideas in Girl Talk. I feel like we should pay attention to it more. Maybe instead of mansplaining how they're wrong.
wow what a great video
yeh nice
Man, I sat here waiting for the part about the bermuda triangle and was massively disappointed! Stupid youtube lying to me like that!
Did she map Spongebob’s pineapple? 🍍🤔
Finally someone's asking the real questions
Spongebob wasn't born until 1990.
Crab Check:
No. There are no crabs in this video.
Where did they think the extra volume was coming from?
Some people thought it was thermal expansion, but they never managed to give a good explanation of what was heating the earth's core. Some other people thought that the earth was gaining mass by absorbing stuff from the aether (which of course does not exist).
Living things grow. Where does that extra volume come from?
Nice
👏👏👏👍👍sipp
I loved this informative video, like most of this channel. Sadly I keep hearing about sexism though but it’s okay
Ah the 1950s. When women could be snipers and spies but couldnt be researchers on boats.
Imagine your whole life and possibilities you got in life are very discriminatory and limited, all based on your gender and you still make it to a place where they tell you constantly you don't belong to and your statements are "Girl Talk", basically belittle you every single day, basically you never had a chance to build an ego. But still you are able to focus, stay emotionally strong and believe in yourself, in the genius you are. Imagine if there was no discrimination, with these abilities and strong will that women have, they would have not only ruled the world, but we would live in a much more advanced world.
We still haven't found a huge jet in the ocean yet
Neat
What a woman! It should be renamed The Tharp Ridge.
Continents moving around the face of the earth like balls on a pool table has never made sense to me. Now an expanding earth would fracture all around the surface and with continued expansion those cracks would open into wider areas of newly produced surfaces that would be both lower and younger than the original surface. Water would run off into these basins and so on.............but no, they decide to go with the theory that rifts open over here at the same time they are closing over there without affecting the overall size of the surface of the planet. And apparently it has always been this way. I dont get it.
Sounding hence the term Mark Twain. 🚣🏻♀️
I don't get it....
@@lilurri Mark Twain means Mark 3 meters of water. A boatsman would throw a line/ sinker into the water to sound for depth. And Samual Clemons took that for hit pin name. 🚤
How about a series of "Girl Talk" videos, featuring women who've made huge steps in advancing our scientific understanding of the Universe, and everything in it.
And you'd have lotsa boy talk from men who are tired of feminist virtue signalling or something like that
@@SuviTuuliAllan Possibly...possibly not.
It would depend, in part, how the videos were presented - the SciShow team know how to produce quality content, and the subscriber base on here would, as far as I could imagine, be pretty receptive to such a series of videos...if done correctly.
There doesn't need to be any message or agenda - just a series of informative pieces like this upload.
I'd certainly be curious to know more about women's contribution to science.
What kind of regulation forbids women on ships? Was this from the time people thought women on ships bring misfortune?
Why there's no playlist of "great minds'
Uh, there is?
That's girl talk. You have to dumb it down for the man scientists of the time.
95% of scientists are men and 99% of scientific discoveries are made by men
@@classygentlemangaming8400 81% of internet comments statistics are correct and 39% are true.
@@classygentlemangaming8400 Wrong, its more like 40% female scientists, and its getting even better.
@@anaivaanicic76 false
@@classygentlemangaming8400 Dude, just google it. I am a STEM student, and in my class there are only 6 guys, and like 25 girls. Math, chemistry and physics departaments on my college are also mostly women, both students and professors.
Never underestimate women's minds !
#MarieTharp100
I heard bout that Marine Garp 🤣
What regulation wouldn’t let her set sail
cool
Recurring theme in scientific history: woman discovers something, man discounts it because it came from a woman, woman is ultimately proven correct. Hopefully we have finally gotten past this.
You forgot that somehow the man still gets their name on it to and in first position.
@@pegasusted2504 very true. And infuriating.
Ugh right, I'll never forgive Watson and Crick for not including Franklin's name, she deserves much more recognition than she gets
95% of scientists are men, and society is artificially inflating the achievements of women to create the illusion that men and women are the same.
@@classygentlemangaming8400 Wow. That's a pretty misogynistic statement. Has is occurred to you why there are so many more male scientists? It sure as hell isn't because women can't do it. It's because your kind of attitude still exists in the world and is still discouraging girls and women from pursuing careers in scientific fields.
Ooh yes... The king of girl talk that I actually enjoy.
That is some pretty awesome girl talk!
Sounding replaced by sound
You think oceanography would start as soon as glass was invented
You can't really see the ocean floor if you're thinking just looking through the bottom of the ship?
It's as easy as knowing how high a cloud is by just looking at it...oh wait. -_-
Even if you could see to the bottom of the ocean, what's your reference point to measure distance when it's just kms of water?
Dunno how knowing the details of the ocean floor is that important. It's not like real estate developers are going to be putting cities there anytime soon and need to know which areas to avoid.
Don't hate on me for mentioning that it's not called continental drift anymore. 💖Plate techtonics💕
I need more videos on female scientists. Thank you so much for making these.
I bet Atlantis is at the top of that submarine hill in the Black Sea.
Every time SicShow posts a new vid about a female scientist, I dislocate my thumbs clicking "like" so fast.
Female badass
Also: youtube is showing a card for the Bermuda Triangle wiki under this video because somehow that makes sense
Sonar buge eshak
None of which would have been possible without Reginald Fessenden, a man, who invented sonar.
It's not easy to be seen as a stupid dog to men whom are physically stronger and so much more powerful. But in fact be so much smarter. Tough life the women lived. And some still do.
the vast majority of scientists and academics are male
@@classygentlemangaming8400 Yeah, we all know why, and it's not because they are smarter. The vast majority of violent criminals are also male, but you don't want to have anything to do with that, right?
Marita physical strength does not mean anything, we are not living in an animal kingdom.
@@surgigi1582 that's the evolutionary trade off for men, higher levels of competitiveness means higher drive to achieve but also means being more aggressive
Chicks, man. Am I right?
This woman has a really similar name to a woman that traumatized me and abused me my entire life until a few years ago. Interesting.
The world needs more "girl talk".