Does the Pokéwalker Work w/ FAKE Pokémon Games?

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  • @FoBro91
    @FoBro91 11 місяців тому +330

    A little bit of additional info here: The 3DS/2DS family actually does have built-in IR Blasters in each console, but they don't work with these games or the Generation 5 ones since they're specifically trying to read IR data from the cartridge slot. It doesn't matter what cartridge is in the slot as long as it's a cartridge with IR compatibility. So for example, you could be playing a ROM of Pokemon HeartGold via homebrew with a copy of SoulSilver in the cartridge slot and you could still connect the Pokewalker just fine.

    • @mrsuperheatran2794
      @mrsuperheatran2794 11 місяців тому +65

      I can back this up. I use twilight menu to play Heart Gold and my White 2 copy works as a perfect donor game for the infrared feature.

    • @P1lotYT
      @P1lotYT 11 місяців тому

      does it work vice versa?@@mrsuperheatran2794

    • @munchlaxsegundo3628
      @munchlaxsegundo3628 10 місяців тому +5

      Does it work with the games installed on the 3Ds home screen? Can the Poke Transporter be used with these roms?

    • @tyrellgary4462
      @tyrellgary4462 10 місяців тому +4

      Thank you for this, was hoping to replay hgss and wanted to use a pokewalker as well

    • @FoBro91
      @FoBro91 10 місяців тому

      @@munchlaxsegundo3628 There's a specific patch for PokeTransporter and Dream Radar that lets you connect to ROMs instead of a cartridge. If you look up "PokeTransporter Redirect" it should be the top result.

  • @zoranadraws
    @zoranadraws 11 місяців тому +134

    The reason why the pokemon can't be sent back on another save is because the pokemon data is kept on the save file, while only a little bit of it is sent to the pokewalker. It's how you can retrieve the mon if you lose the pokewalker, just in case there's a really important mon on it.

    • @itbwen9672
      @itbwen9672 8 місяців тому +3

      Out of curiosity, how does one retrieve the mon if the pokewalker is lost / gone? I know I still have my copy of soulsilver, with quite a few mons on my long lost poke walker lol.

    • @DerJagerlord
      @DerJagerlord 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@itbwen9672 you can get your one Pokémon you sent into the Pokéwalker back
      You can't get the three you caught

    • @melodasbaka6629
      @melodasbaka6629 8 місяців тому

      Pokeball Just Take The Same Game too . I löst my evee

  • @costelinha1867
    @costelinha1867 10 місяців тому +33

    Poor wooper, spent decades on a pokewalker limbo, and just when they got the slightest hope of reuniting with their trainer, it got taken away, and they got erased from existence.

  • @AzureFlute
    @AzureFlute 11 місяців тому +58

    I miss my PokéWalker. I lost it when my apartment at the time caught fire and I never found it.
    The IR cartridges for HGSS and the Gen 5 games were definitely a really interesting feature! Like that you did a video on this

  • @hawkfeather6802
    @hawkfeather6802 11 місяців тому +56

    It's too bad your Wooper had to go away. I am glad though that the pokemon doesn't disappear when the battery dies. The battery in mine died with my Latias in it but one new battery and there it was.

    • @Cyndarion0ne
      @Cyndarion0ne 10 місяців тому +6

      It doesn't disappear, you have to unpair it from your game and/or the internals have to have been shorted in some way. It was probably dropped a lot by whomever. That never happened to me in years of using it. The device was rated to last for 4 entire months between charges or battery swaps. There is NO way they didn't account for system failure.

  • @ChainPenguin
    @ChainPenguin 11 місяців тому +28

    (Before watching the video)
    I dont think it will work because the fake doesn't have an infrared sensor.
    The only reason why the original cartridge is so dark is to allow infrared light to reach the sensor, like a TV remote.
    (After watching the video)
    (-_-)

  • @JordiumZ
    @JordiumZ 10 місяців тому +17

    You can use the pokewalker on the gen4 games with a rom you just need a hgss or a gen 5 cart inserted for it to work

    • @KevdogPlays
      @KevdogPlays  10 місяців тому +5

      That makes a lot of sense actually. Thanks for telling me!

    • @misterkeevs685
      @misterkeevs685 10 місяців тому +7

      I'm assuming you mean there needs to be a REAL cart in a DSi or 3DS while launching + running a rom of the same sort?

    • @JordiumZ
      @JordiumZ 10 місяців тому

      @@misterkeevs685 if you have Pokémon heart gold, soul silver, black, white, black 2 and white 2 cart inserted you can use the pokewalker with a rom Version of hgss on something like twilight menu

    • @JordiumZ
      @JordiumZ Місяць тому

      ​@@misterkeevs685 Yes as long as the cart itself has IR like hgss and black and white

  • @ProjectXANA
    @ProjectXANA 10 місяців тому +12

    You would have to insert a cartridge with an IR sensor for a rom to be able to use the pokewalker. With this method youre also able to transfer romhack pokemon to the pokewalker if the rom has custom data for the pokewalker. I cant find this person atm but theres a romhacker thats currently working on a hgss game that has a hisuian zorua transferred to a pokewalker

  • @Zrxl
    @Zrxl 11 місяців тому +11

    2:22
    Rest in Peace, Wooper....

  • @xpinkyz
    @xpinkyz 10 місяців тому +4

    You can actually recover that pokemon back onto its original cartridge in case you lose the pokewalker. Apparently it doesn’t ever really leave the cartridge, it’s just not accessible to create the illusion that it left the game. Because of this, you can force it back into your save file.

  • @L1ght_7
    @L1ght_7 10 місяців тому +16

    I will never forgive child me for selling both HeartGold AND SoulSilver to GameStop. I still have one of my pokewalkers, but getting one of the games now is stupidly expensive, so seems it will continue to be useless for the forseeable future unfortunately. Thanks for testing this though! I had been wondering this for a while, so its good to at least confirm a fake cart doesn't usually work.

    • @Alice..M
      @Alice..M 9 місяців тому +2

      I lost mine on vacation to Disney :c I still have all of my games but HG

    • @killuazoldyck7705
      @killuazoldyck7705 6 місяців тому +2

      Lol I remember one time I went to Gamestop and I wanted to sell all my games and my ds but they only offered me like 30bucks (+ rejected my DS and told me it was in "too bad of a condition) and that was so ridiculous that I didnt take the deal. Idek why they shittalked my ds so hard. Its only a bit scratched up, actually good condition considering I was a kid. Anyways Im glad I kept my DS and my games (although I later threw away some of them.... which was was kind of dumb BUT i kept HeartGold)

  • @mihir2480
    @mihir2480 11 місяців тому +7

    Dude the timing of this video for me is impeccable

  • @joemck85
    @joemck85 10 місяців тому +4

    You *can* use the Pokewalker with a romhack in a 2/3DS or DSi if you launch it through TwilightMenu++ and have an authentic Pokémon IR-enhanced card in the slot. It can be either HGSS or any gen 5 game. TM++ is just using it for its IR sensor so its save file won't be affected. You point the Pokewalker at the cartridge, not the back of the New 2DS XL though. Since it's a N2DSXL the cartridge is behind a flap so the flap has to be open as well.
    To run the romhack on a regular DS (without Pokewalker support) you need a DS flashcart like R4 or Ace3DS.
    Wooper is stuck because it never truly left the save it was in. Only a subset of its data is copied to the Pokewalker. The reset option in the Pokewalker menu will return any Pokémon that had been put on it back to you, which is useful if it gets lost, damaged, registered to another game, or the battery dies.

  • @SuperGreenLuigi
    @SuperGreenLuigi 11 місяців тому +18

    2:22 Shiny Catherine will not be happy

  • @superboy3229
    @superboy3229 8 місяців тому +1

    I glad still having my official HeartGold/SoulSilver and 3 poke walkers. I had lost my poke walker at my work hotel, my friend gave me a free poke walker. a few years later, I found my poke walker in my employee pants hooked the hanger. My friend graduated from school after I found it. so I tried to give it to him back but don't have his contact well.

  • @maxrandom5331
    @maxrandom5331 10 місяців тому +3

    You can use the pokewalker with fake games andd romhacks, IF you own a game that already has the it sensor, using a 3ds and twilight menu

  • @fluffybunnybadass
    @fluffybunnybadass 3 місяці тому

    so i didnt see any comments suggesting this, but aside from the few reasons i saw, another possible reason you can't haphazardly send mon to any game file regardless of save is because someone could possibly steal your walker and then send that mon to their own games. which makes that 'failsafe' of locking them out of the game to generate the illusion of them being gone look a lot smarter and feel a lot less daunting if you can't get a walker replaced or fixed.

  • @MasochistMouse
    @MasochistMouse 11 місяців тому +9

    I got my first Pokewalker last year...it was already broken though so when I got it home & put a new battery in it refused to power on! 😭

    • @johnnyknadler1157
      @johnnyknadler1157 10 місяців тому

      Did you get a refund?

    • @MasochistMouse
      @MasochistMouse 10 місяців тому

      @@johnnyknadler1157 No, but I didn't try taking it back... (It was a guy at a flea market & he buys used small toys in bulk [like Action Figures, Lego pieces, and Happy Meal type toys] to resell & doesn't know anything about videogames it was out of his dime bin so wasn't worth hassling him about but the only time I'd seen one available in person so I kinda figured it might've been broken especially since it didn't power on there if it did work after I changed the battery I figured I knew where to find him & I could take him back more money with a little research)

  • @belvele1640
    @belvele1640 2 дні тому

    "I play Po-kay-mon Heartgold vervion! I play Po-kay-mon Soulsilver!"

  • @AlienSnowflake
    @AlienSnowflake 10 місяців тому +2

    Fake game don't have infrared in their cartridges. The pokemon are saved in the game itself and the pokewalker. Hence why you can return your mon if you lose your pokewalker coz it duplicates it. (You can end up cloning your mon if you disconnect it at the right time)
    I knew this coz I owned two SS and wanted to stroll two mons in one game but couldn't

  • @djmhyde
    @djmhyde 4 місяці тому +1

    i have a question, if a person is a huge enthusiast of pedometers, how this person is called?🤔

  • @33r44yt
    @33r44yt 11 місяців тому +6

    I love these kind of tests and if you need any suggestions what to do next: could you test if you can trade between (authentic) gen 3 games and pokemon colosseum/xd rom hacks (on modded wii or gamecube)

  • @brim4452
    @brim4452 10 місяців тому +4

    There's actually a sort of romrack framework called HGEngine, and it adds the rest of the generations of pokemon to HGSS, and it actually works with the pokewalker! So you can send modern pokemon to your pokewalker (as long as you have IR capabilities on your system)!

    • @sparklesparkle3370
      @sparklesparkle3370 5 місяців тому

      Is there any guides online to find how to do this asking for a friend!

    • @brim4452
      @brim4452 5 місяців тому

      @@sparklesparkle3370 i personally havent quite gotten it to work, someone would have to mod the encounters in, and i havent succeeded in using a randomizer either.. genning is different too since the rom framework itself has been changed..

  • @JamieS1992
    @JamieS1992 10 місяців тому +1

    its not dumb that you cant connect a pokewalker to a different save there are unlocks linked to your profiles steps walking paths which need to be unlocked etc it also allows 1 walker per save so you cant cheat and use many

  • @johnwest6690
    @johnwest6690 4 місяці тому +1

    The Pokéwalker should be pointed at the cartrdige... You need to point it towards the cart slot on the N2ds, not the back. You might as well have pointed it at a brick wall.

  • @shreym03
    @shreym03 10 місяців тому +1

    Fun fact. You could theoretically transfer pokemon to that ROM with a Pokewalker. The trick is to place your original IR cartridge in the modded 3ds and play it with twilight-menu. Apparently, the emulator has a way to detect those cartridges and IR will work after that

    • @Left4Cake
      @Left4Cake 10 місяців тому

      Dose it reroute the IR sensor to the 3ds's inbuilt one instead?

    • @shreym03
      @shreym03 10 місяців тому

      @@Left4Cake As far as I know, it doesn't. The game looks for inbuilt cartridge functionality. Can't really find 3DS because it doesn't know it exists. Although fingers crossed there's a patch or a mod for this someday

  • @night4138
    @night4138 10 місяців тому

    0:42 even the stickers are different
    The fake seems to have a darker grey background with less of a gradient than the authentic one has in the center of it

  • @thundrakion
    @thundrakion 10 місяців тому

    I will say: yes, the black cartridge of BW 1 & 2 is because of the IR functions of the C-Gear. When I was a kid, I saw the IR and thought "Wait, where's the IR sensor on a DS then?" If I got Soul Silver instead of Spectrobes Beyond the Portals ($20 budget and my little sister thought Rydrake looked enough like Lugia), I might have put that together after seeing that "point at game card" prompt on it.

  • @notzoti
    @notzoti 10 місяців тому +1

    i had a shiny mewtwo on my pokewalker, no idea what happend to it. 😭

  • @voidxO7
    @voidxO7 10 місяців тому

    0:43 bro called my buff dang it

  • @low1ryda
    @low1ryda 3 місяці тому

    I happen to have a physical Black 2 cartridge. When its inserted in my dsi, i can run a soulsilver rom from the twilight menu and the pokewalker works.

  • @Pokefanmati
    @Pokefanmati 10 місяців тому

    Fun fact! If you use ads bootstrap to get a pokemon game loaded from on the 3ds sd card, you can put an original infrared cartridge on the console and it will work. So, if you have Pokemon HGSS running and you put an original copy (or a BW I think), It should work.
    Sadly, I don't have a pokewalker, so I only tested it using pokemon BW poke gear.

  • @splersh194
    @splersh194 10 місяців тому

    The roms are missing the little chip that communicates to the pokewalker, the feature on pokemon bw/bw2 that interacts with the dream world or whatever, won't work on multi-player similarly, because there is no chip attached to the cartridge

  • @TooManyMonsters
    @TooManyMonsters 10 місяців тому +1

    I haven't watch the video, but I can guess that it won't work just knowing that the fake cartridge doesn't have the infrared port needed to communicate with the Pokewalker.

  • @NataSenpai
    @NataSenpai 4 місяці тому

    What if you tried the rom game while having the original cartridge inside and seeing if the cartridge will act as a pass through antenna for the Pokéwalker?

  • @howlfuzzy
    @howlfuzzy 9 місяців тому

    i found out by using a white 2 rom with my white 2 cartridge in (my save got corrupted and i can't load the game normally) on my 2ds, if i use the IR features, it'll still pull it from the cartridge and the connection still works perfectly fine
    maybe something you can try is trying to connect the pokewalker to stormsilver by having the authentic soulsilver cart in, might be interesting!

  • @DaysenSouth-z5p
    @DaysenSouth-z5p 9 місяців тому

    Bro even with the real game it was a pain to connect those

  • @Kivurgo
    @Kivurgo 7 місяців тому

    Ok, so if your phone has an IR sensor, can you connect the pokewalker to an emulator on your phone?

  • @moksi81
    @moksi81 10 місяців тому

    i remember when zack&cody promoted the pokewalker

  • @Alice_was-here_1999
    @Alice_was-here_1999 10 місяців тому

    I wish my rom of Soul Silver on my flash card worked with a pokewalker

  • @FangerZero
    @FangerZero 7 місяців тому

    My only question is is there a way to emulate this for emulation on a PC? I have both Heartgold soulsilver, something I'm very happy that I bought both versions. But I'd like to play from the start without losing the saved data from my original playthroughs. And I'd like to use the pokewalker.

  • @jovanijaimes6340
    @jovanijaimes6340 10 місяців тому +1

    You should check if a fake soul silver works with pal park for transferring gen 3 pokemon over

    • @MoosemeIon
      @MoosemeIon 10 місяців тому +2

      I'm 90% sure that they do. I think Fake Gen 3 games are where the connection fails, I could be wrong tho

  • @DeepWeeb
    @DeepWeeb 11 місяців тому +1

    RIP Wooper 😔

  • @ShiningSakura
    @ShiningSakura 10 місяців тому +2

    As always these fakes leave out key features like trading, connectivity of all kinds, and clocks out of the game so please do not expect anything out of fakes.... they will always disappoint you.

  • @twocent02
    @twocent02 4 місяці тому

    How did you reset the pokewalker?

  • @half-qilin
    @half-qilin 10 місяців тому

    I am so thankful I have a real copy of HeartGold and got a Pokewalker for C$40 about a year ago.

  • @servantbyday
    @servantbyday 11 місяців тому +2

    “Could have found that out if I did more research.” Is the absolute lowest effort statement to outright say. We can tell with your actions. Please try harder.

    • @KevdogPlays
      @KevdogPlays  11 місяців тому +5

      I could’ve just googled whether fake games work and had my answer, but both of those would’ve defeated the purpose of making the video. I don’t want to take the enjoyment out of making these!

    • @Canti89
      @Canti89 10 місяців тому

      The absolute State of poke tubing

  • @Joe-yx1gq
    @Joe-yx1gq 10 місяців тому +1

    I just want to know if you can transfer Pokemon from the "Fake copy of gen 4 games like soul sliver into gen 9" just want to know and if they can be used in online play?

  • @Synth_Dragon
    @Synth_Dragon 10 місяців тому +1

    Will a fake pokewalker work with a real game?
    will a fake pokewalker work with a fake game?

    • @KevdogPlays
      @KevdogPlays  10 місяців тому +2

      I’ve never seen a fake Pokewalker honestly

    • @Synth_Dragon
      @Synth_Dragon 10 місяців тому +1

      @@KevdogPlays Me either, I was hoping you'd have one though lol

  • @KaioshinandPhione
    @KaioshinandPhione 10 місяців тому

    Thank GOD i still have my brothers soulsilver and now mine white 2

  • @_asher
    @_asher 9 місяців тому

    A true man of culture, using the original DS 💯

  • @DeadAccountXD
    @DeadAccountXD 10 місяців тому

    Do Poketransporter work with a fake Gen 5 cardrige ?

  • @THAPOKEPINBALLER
    @THAPOKEPINBALLER 10 місяців тому

    Is that the Mario kart red ds ? I always wanted one.

  • @dexvargas21
    @dexvargas21 5 місяців тому

    you should test to see if fake copies work with dream radar to get the legendaries

  • @victorzelaya9892
    @victorzelaya9892 5 місяців тому

    How do you reset it

  • @rpt2369
    @rpt2369 6 місяців тому

    Just found out my copy of SS is fake…11 years later 😅

  • @DawnBramley-k7k
    @DawnBramley-k7k 2 місяці тому

    Thank you. Can you trade Pokémon on fake games to other fake cartridges

  • @watson15243
    @watson15243 7 місяців тому

    3ds you can use black and black 2 or whites if you can use a rom in the SD with luma ++ I bought a Chinese black 2

    • @watson15243
      @watson15243 7 місяців тому +1

      I was in Japan a while ago I was able to buy a pokewalker for 25$ and I bought a black 2 Chinese for about 20$ worked really nice

  • @erecto_patronum
    @erecto_patronum 10 місяців тому

    I just get an R4 and get anything I need with the cheat list.

  • @PokeFan_HoennTop
    @PokeFan_HoennTop 10 місяців тому

    F to Wooper!

  • @Kkrankz
    @Kkrankz 10 місяців тому

    Got an Pokewalker for $40 cad with both of the lids.

  • @chandlerbraeden9317
    @chandlerbraeden9317 10 місяців тому

    Lol I used the same battires for my poke Walker as well

  • @Nole950
    @Nole950 10 місяців тому

    The list whooper

  • @Thebungus765
    @Thebungus765 10 місяців тому

    Wait what I bought my soul silver for 40 bucks

  • @silverunlucky
    @silverunlucky 7 місяців тому

    Haven't watched the video, but I guess no cause the game itself has the little thing you need to connect to the pokewalker

    • @silverunlucky
      @silverunlucky 7 місяців тому

      Update I was right and you explain. Nice. I still use my pokewalker a lot, so I know a lot about it

  • @user89730
    @user89730 6 місяців тому

    Enter kevdog

  • @UntitledSpecifics
    @UntitledSpecifics 10 місяців тому

    o7 wooper
    Back on the day i had both heart gold and soul silver wirh thw pokewalker, tried to move my silver pokemon to my gold game and didnt work :o
    Still habe soul silver, heart gold is dead, sister stabed it to dearh rip
    But i do have both pokewalkers still, i wonder if I have a pokemon on any of them 🤔

  • @acetrainerace6560
    @acetrainerace6560 10 місяців тому

    Sick video!

  • @DarkiCraftS
    @DarkiCraftS 10 місяців тому

    this is faked because the game cartridge have a infrared led inside .

  • @Countdownsmiles
    @Countdownsmiles 8 місяців тому

    No way

  • @nept2ned
    @nept2ned 10 місяців тому

    of course not,
    fake pokemon games don’t have infrared sensors so they cannot use the pokewalker
    the 3ds/2ds has a infrared sensor but it doesn’t support those ds game ofc

  • @questfaceplays357
    @questfaceplays357 10 місяців тому

    Intresting

  • @Cyndarion0ne
    @Cyndarion0ne 10 місяців тому

    The DS has a code-line to execute. All those flash carts are are eeprom memory pushed into a micro-SD card format and made into a game disc basically. Its a tiny inefficient hard drive that doesn't get hot. The DS has the IR port BUILT INTO it, on the back and side, on the camera as well in later generations. Same with the 3Ds. Its more than likely you bricked your pokewalker doing what you did, or that your ROM for SoulSilver had a corrupted or missing file source where the hex code for the Pokewalker function was written. Either way, kinda odd that you thought at first that the IR was in the cartridge itself???? They would be as thick as GBA carts if that was the case and as long as GB carts just to fit a small IR led and the battery to power it in the same circuit. Bless your little heart but no, its much simpler. Its all in the back of the fat body DS mostly.
    The cart wasn't the issue, it was probably the Walker itself being softlocked. Be more careful next time and don't just assume something is "stuck forever" just because it didn't work the way YOU wanted, try other methods before you brute force electronics software, especially really basic stuff like the DS. Sometimes mishandling does more harm than letting it take its time to make sure it isn't human error.
    Cool video too, just thought I'd inform you of how the hardware works.

  • @THE_CARBON
    @THE_CARBON 11 місяців тому

    Carbon was here 1/27/24

    • @maltemoj
      @maltemoj 11 місяців тому

      Didn't ask

  • @Dorgpoop
    @Dorgpoop Місяць тому

    I always wanted this game as a kid, but it realesed just after the 2008 financial crisis so my family were skint lol

  • @valiantelan
    @valiantelan 11 місяців тому +2

    SO glad I still have my old Heartgold copy, if only I still had the Pokewalker 🥲 my dumbahh kid self put it through the wash years ago

    • @CEDL0W
      @CEDL0W 11 місяців тому

      Happened to me as well but after drying it. It started to work again.

  • @Hex9876yugioh
    @Hex9876yugioh 10 місяців тому

    Now test a fake pokewalker on a real game 🫠