European Space Agency Looking For Life In Jupiter's Moons

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  • Опубліковано 11 кві 2023
  • Tomorrow ESA will launch the JUpiter ICy Moons Explorer or JUICE - a flagship space mission to explore the moons of Jupiter - primarily Europa, Ganymede and Callisto with the spacecraft ultimately in orbit around Ganymede making it the first spacecraft to orbit the moon of another planet
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  • @paulhaynes8045
    @paulhaynes8045 Рік тому +604

    The timescales of this mission are staggering. I've been a space nerd since the early 60s, but, until now, I had never thought in terms of a mission being launced that I might not see the end of. I will be in my 80s by the time JUICE reaches its target, so, for the first time, I'll be watching this rocket taking off wondering if I'll live to see the results...

    • @haldir8219
      @haldir8219 Рік тому +86

      Fingers crossed that you will be able to. ☺️

    • @kvineet631
      @kvineet631 Рік тому +44

      I just wanna be around to taste the fish from Europa..🎣

    • @David-bh7hs
      @David-bh7hs Рік тому +9

      God bless you

    • @tonym480
      @tonym480 Рік тому +30

      Yea, I'm in the same position, by the time JUICE arrives into its final orbit I'll be in my mid 80's. Really would like to be around long enough to see the findings coming back from this wonderful piece of science and engineering. 🤞

    • @simongeard4824
      @simongeard4824 Рік тому +22

      Look at projects like Voyager... development started in the early 1960s, and fresh graduates who started with JPL back then were the people running the project by the time the probes arrived at Jupiter in 1979. And by now, some of them could have adult grandchildren who have joined JPL and inherited their grandparent's probes...

  • @mikerichards6065
    @mikerichards6065 Рік тому +367

    Ariane 5 launches are always spectacular - the rocket doesn’t hang around when those boosters light - it just wants to fly. Good luck to everyone involved in the mission.

    • @owensmith7530
      @owensmith7530 Рік тому +6

      Isn't this the second to last Ariane 5 launch?

    • @aemrt5745
      @aemrt5745 Рік тому +12

      ​@@owensmith7530 Actually this is the last Ariane 5 launch. Its Ariane 6 replacement will fly a prototype at the end of this year.

    • @NonBinary_Star
      @NonBinary_Star Рік тому +3

      It def jumps off the launch pad

    • @John_Honai
      @John_Honai Рік тому +4

      You haven't seen any Indian launches..?

    • @adarsh4764
      @adarsh4764 Рік тому +5

      ​@@John_Honai Yeah the ISRO's GSLV M3 rocket is like a little sibling version of Ariane 5!

  • @jpdemer5
    @jpdemer5 Рік тому +180

    Sheesh ... I'll be pushing 80 when the results start coming in. Here's hoping the spacecraft and I are both working well when the time comes.😉

    • @davidf2281
      @davidf2281 Рік тому +8

      I'm sure you'll be hail and hearty and we'll all still be following Scott's updates!

    • @croweater78
      @croweater78 Рік тому

      Yeah it's an extra long journey just bouncing around for years. Should just burn straight there I reckon.

    • @darth856
      @darth856 Рік тому

      @@croweater78 I think if the spacecraft is going too fast, it can't go into orbit.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Рік тому

      U old.

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom Рік тому +3

      I'll drink to that! Health!

  • @jeromethiel4323
    @jeromethiel4323 Рік тому +72

    I always like it when nations cooperate in scientific endeavors. It makes it easier to get the most bang for the buck when planning these missions. As long as all the data is shared, it betters everyone.
    It's just too bad i might not live long enough to see the fruition of this mission. But that's also part of the scientific endeavor, working towards enhancing our understanding of the universe, even though we ourselves might not be alive when the data is actually available.

    • @aemrt5745
      @aemrt5745 Рік тому +13

      I am at the tail end of my Engineering career and am seeing my mortality. I look at it this way. These efforts are like the European Cathedrals that took over a century to build. The people who started them built them for future generations.

  • @throwback19841
    @throwback19841 Рік тому +139

    So, uh, shall I say it? When this mission launches THE JUICE IS LOOSE

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Рік тому +4

      If I Did It

    • @IstasPumaNevada
      @IstasPumaNevada Рік тому +4

      Be amusing if somebody snuck a small diagram of a white ford bronco onto the probe, maybe on a circuit board somewhere.

  • @jimlaz7456
    @jimlaz7456 Рік тому +173

    This is going to bring some incredible data, but I find it difficult to get excited about long term missions that won't yield results till I'm old and grey-er

    • @user-lv7ph7hs7l
      @user-lv7ph7hs7l Рік тому +36

      You have to look at missions that are close to arrival not launch. Like New Horizons a couple of years ago. There's Venus and Moon stuff coming up and Mars too. I don't want to think about things like Mars Sample Return. That'll be after my time.

    • @joyl7842
      @joyl7842 Рік тому +26

      JWST was in development for around 3 decades. Look at the amazing scientific data it is providing now. Long-term missions may be the ones to get most excited about!

    • @zxbc1
      @zxbc1 Рік тому +33

      Think of it as a big additional motivation to live healthy and long life so you can be alive when discovery is made.

    • @xlynx9
      @xlynx9 Рік тому +6

      If there was a consistently decent cadence of long term missions launching, that would result in a decent cadence of delivery. For that, we need cheaper rockets (coming) and commodity spacecraft that research agencies could just bolt a couple of bespoke instruments to.

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Рік тому +7

      It's also a gamble. In the years it takes for the spacecraft to get into position for its mission there are plenty of opportunities for something to go wrong. I'm always happy when something like New Horizons or Cassini gets all the way to its target and nothing major goes wrong.

  • @alin116
    @alin116 Рік тому +50

    I find it amazing how these people plan for 8+ year-long missions. Hope I'll be around to see the science!

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom Рік тому +10

      It also reminds you how BIG the solar system is. :)

    • @AbiGail-ok7fc
      @AbiGail-ok7fc Рік тому +9

      @@TheEvilmooseofdoom Well, yes and no. Space is big, but it doesn't take JUICE 8 years to reach Jupiter: it will be doing the trip in 2.5 (last flyby of Earth is Jan 2029, arrival at Jupiter is in July 2031). The other 5.5 it's just bouncing around Earth and Venus to pick up speed.

    • @AbiGail-ok7fc
      @AbiGail-ok7fc Рік тому +1

      The mission is longer than 8 years: 8 years to get to Jupiter, then about 4 to do science around Jupiter and its moons. And don't forget the 10+ years already spend planning the mission and building the space craft and instruments. More than 22 years will have passed between selecting the mission (May 2012) and its proposed crash landing (December 2024). And people must have started working on a project proposal long before its selection.

  • @nigelgreening4378
    @nigelgreening4378 Рік тому +27

    Hi Scott!! I have a good friend that's on the Juice project team and has taken some great close ups of the last Ariane V on the pad and the payload prior to 'packing'

    • @macjonte
      @macjonte Рік тому

      Interview!! :)

    • @owensmith7530
      @owensmith7530 Рік тому

      I thought it was second to last Ariane 5?

    • @chrisoddy8744
      @chrisoddy8744 Рік тому

      It would have been the last one but Heinrich Hertz got delayed so it's now the second-to-last one

  • @MrQuantumInc
    @MrQuantumInc Рік тому +46

    I've been looking at the game "Barotrauma" where you pilot a submarine below the ice of Europa, which proposes that the icy moon of Jupiter does in fact have life, but that is not necessarily a good thing.

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Рік тому +14

      Arthur C. Clarke's book 2010: Odyssey Two also saw some Chinese astronauts discovering life on Europa the hard way.

    • @hastur2493
      @hastur2493 Рік тому +3

      *honk*

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 Рік тому +2

      @@RCAvhstape well, they were warned!!!

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Рік тому +2

      @@patreekotime4578 No, the warning comes later in the story.

  • @aemrt5745
    @aemrt5745 Рік тому +16

    I worked on the Atlas V launch system for New Horizons. We watched the launch in 2006 (on a closed circuit TV at work). 2015 seemed so far away, yet it arrived so quick. I suspect the same will be true here. Dang, time flies by way to fast when you get older!

    • @forgotultag1543
      @forgotultag1543 Рік тому +2

      thank you for making the New Horizon project a reality!
      Various TV programs and science book told childhood me that Pluto is just a cold, grey, dull orbiting rock. But the false-colour images of Pluto completely shattered that and I am glad to be alive to witness this and much more for coming years!

    • @aemrt5745
      @aemrt5745 Рік тому +1

      @@forgotultag1543 Thanks. I worked as a Tooling Engineer on the Atlas V booster team (the white rockets on the side of the main stage). We designed and developed the machinery to build them as well as the test stands. I was just one engineer amoung a vast organization working on it. It is amazing how many people are involved in such projects. It is pretty impressive seeing one of those boosters light up during a ground test and feeling the mini earthquake!
      Agree about being blown away by the images. I grew up in the 1970s and had a similar reaction to the Voyager I and II images.
      This stuff fostered a life long love of astronomy and engineering in me.

    • @aemrt5745
      @aemrt5745 Рік тому +1

      @@forgotultag1543 At the time, we had a huge launch party at work. There was a closed circuit telecast of the event. Everyone at all levels of staff watched and cheered as it took off. Unfortunately I did not travel to the Cape (we are in California), but the comradery of that day was the next best thing.
      Good times! Though most of my experience has been in Aerospace, I now work in Transportation. Great work, but there is something unmatchable working on space stuff.

    • @forgotultag1543
      @forgotultag1543 Рік тому

      @@aemrt5745 I can't imagine - that sheer excitement and yet calm realization that you, and 1000+ people making a mark in the annals of Space Exploration history.
      Hope you have a good weekend.

    • @aemrt5745
      @aemrt5745 Рік тому

      @@forgotultag1543 Thanks. It is an awesome feeling. BTW, mixed in with that is a bit of anxiety. When watching the New Horizons launch, we were always worried something could go wrong with our hardware. We had full confidence and understanding of the high odds of success, but as a human you cannot help it! When the boosters burned out and were dumped, there was a huge feeling of relief they worked!
      Have a great weekend too!!!

  • @Demonidess
    @Demonidess Рік тому +8

    The thing's hollow -- it goes on forever -- and -- oh my God! -- it's full of stars!

  • @professor-josh
    @professor-josh Рік тому +23

    Shows how good solar arrays have gotten that Jupiter orbiters like Juno and JUICE can use them so far out there. Prior missions required RTGs.
    Also didn't have to scroll far down the comments for "2010" quotes! You have your thumbs-up!

    • @gordonstewart5774
      @gordonstewart5774 Рік тому +2

      Nuclear seems like it would be more robust in all that radiation.

    • @_________________404
      @_________________404 Рік тому +3

      Still it's not a very reliable solution considering that it'll take it some 10 years just to fly to Jupiter. Stuff can impact the arrays on the way there or it can encounter some previously unknown anomaly causing them to be severely degraded before the important part of the mission even starts.

    • @ptonpc
      @ptonpc Рік тому +1

      @@_________________404 ESA is pretty good at solar power. The arrays are relatively tough for what they are designed to do and JUICE will be able to run on slightly less power. As for a 'previously unknown anomaly' That's why testing is done, to eliminate as much chance of that as possible. Yes there is always going to be some risk but so is life. You could choke to death on your coffee right now, it won't stop you taking a sip though.

  • @generaldvw
    @generaldvw Рік тому +3

    I love how Scott pronounces moon.😊

  • @marsgal42
    @marsgal42 Рік тому +10

    My money is still on Europa, but we're bound to find lots of interesting stuff on Ganymede too. As always, if we knew what we were going to find there would be no point in doing the research...
    We've *got* to give Titan a closer look. We also need better propulsion: what we can do with chemical rockets and gravity assist just doesn't cut it.

    • @chrisoddy8744
      @chrisoddy8744 Рік тому +1

      If Dragonfly flies within the next ten years then Titan will definitely be getting close looks! Can't get much closer to the atmosphere than a helicopter flying within it, can we?

    • @skurinski
      @skurinski Рік тому

      ​@@chrisoddy8744 i want the lakes explored

  • @NeonsStyleHD
    @NeonsStyleHD Рік тому +10

    You really should thank Gerald Eichstädt for the use of his amazing Juno Jupiter flyby videos he makes from stitched together Juno images. It takes so much effort for thim to do this, a simple acknowledgement is courteous.

  • @sylak2112
    @sylak2112 Рік тому +8

    when I saw that 10 years travel time, I thought it was crazy long, we got to Jupiter faster before. but when you look at what this specific mission need and the orbital path, you get it. damn space travel is complicated. Also it is a big spacecraft. The launch was aborted today because of weather. I hope it does not get pushed back too much. go Ariane!

    • @digins5533
      @digins5533 Рік тому

      Yeah incredibly long. It takes only 2.5years after the last Venus flyby to Jupiter. That’s probably the shortest possible travel time. This fuel savings sucks a bit. With starship ready and the opportunity to have lots of fuel for such spacecraft, those one can arrive earlier than juice at Jupiter :)

  • @Vashts6583.
    @Vashts6583. Рік тому +8

    I cannot wait for its insights into football that will come in thousands of years. Best of luck ESA!

  • @TheJudoJoker
    @TheJudoJoker Рік тому +16

    Hey I know this from the Jon Bois series!

    • @Vashts6583.
      @Vashts6583. Рік тому +4

      Let's give it up for Game 27!

  • @Krzysztof_z_Bagien
    @Krzysztof_z_Bagien Рік тому +6

    I'm so excited for this - one reason is that my wife's cousin is one of the guys that built RPWI instrument for JUICE. He'll actually visit us this weekend, so I hope we can celebrate successful launch together :D

  • @aspacelook
    @aspacelook Рік тому +21

    Good luck to ESA and to the JUICE mission! Can't wait to see what amazing discoveries the probe will find!

  • @cuteraptor42
    @cuteraptor42 Рік тому +8

    You'll get some wide angle color images from the monitoring cameras too, hopefully beginning at fairing deployment.
    I just happen to know this because I worked on these 2 cameras since 2017

  • @jammymcjammerson5318
    @jammymcjammerson5318 Рік тому +10

    I identify closer with pioneer 9 and 10 but juice is so much more fun lol

    • @snickle1980
      @snickle1980 Рік тому +2

      I identify as an attack helicopter...on mars...one which attacks and collects scientific data and streams it back to earth.

  • @tsr207
    @tsr207 Рік тому +48

    Scott's videos are always highly informative - and he highlights missions that "other" channels ignore - good work !

  • @davidpotter8297
    @davidpotter8297 Рік тому +9

    I'm used to these gravity assisted missions. I was at CalTech (as a Planetary Society member, not a student) in 1992 for the second Galileo flyby of Earth. But now, I'm starting to wonder if, say, a 100 ton payload + third stage could launch several years from now and still beat JUICE to Jupiter. I know, i know, spacecraft are much more expensive than launches, but i just have the feeling that the "old style" mission plans will soon be history.

    • @mancubwwa
      @mancubwwa Рік тому +1

      Seriously doubt the 100 ton part(as in 100 ton payload before 2030 with no gravity assists, not that we would naver have this capability). But obviously we are perfectly capable to send a probe to Juputer without gravity assists, in fact we did it already.

    • @wally7856
      @wally7856 Рік тому

      Beating it to Jupiter is only half the problem, you need to slow it down once it gets there or it'll fly right by.

    • @oberonpanopticon
      @oberonpanopticon 5 місяців тому

      Nuclear thermal / electric propulsion would probably be more effective than just adding moar boostars.
      Though I do like to imagine what kind of insane probe mission one could accomplish with a 100+ ton payload margin. Maybe get an orbiter, atmospheric probe and lunar rover to planet 9 once we find it!

  • @Clintreid75
    @Clintreid75 Рік тому +1

    I live in the mid west of Australia and just happened to look up at the sky and see the JUICE rocket burning through it’s second stage! First launch I have ever seen, even got some nice pictures 👍

  • @dominicbendinelli4805
    @dominicbendinelli4805 Рік тому +9

    Awesome mission, go ESA!!

  • @mariasirona1622
    @mariasirona1622 Рік тому

    5:21 this lot of white storms in a row is so beautiful... Like a marble necklace!

  • @FpvBobcat
    @FpvBobcat Рік тому +5

    The devs of Juno: New Origins apparently partnered with the ESA to add some sort of juice mission.

  • @frankgulla2335
    @frankgulla2335 Рік тому +1

    Thanks, Scott. Great video about the future of Jupiter exploration.

  • @stevecoates3799
    @stevecoates3799 Рік тому +7

    Nicely done good sir. I value your offerings as significant and informative. Thank you

  • @CitroenDS23
    @CitroenDS23 Рік тому +2

    I celebrate the brains and effort that gets a mission like this, to at least here. I'm also confidant that the mission will play out and it will be likely the first that I have an understanding of, because of you Scott, and KSP.

  • @richb313
    @richb313 Рік тому

    Thanks for the update on these interplanetary missions.

  • @Rebar77_real
    @Rebar77_real Рік тому +6

    Kickass! 🤘
    Hi algorithm, you're looking efficient today. New cooling tower air filters?

    • @snickle1980
      @snickle1980 Рік тому

      My CPU is a neural net processor. A learning computer. Who is your daddy and what does he do?

  • @Lew114
    @Lew114 Рік тому +3

    I didn't know about the Juice mission. I'm very excited about what we'll learn.

  • @JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke
    @JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke Рік тому +10

    I wish we could develop faster rockets so these deep space missions could get there quicker. I'm 66 now and by the time this mission reaches Jupiter I'll be pushing 80 - if I'm still around. Good luck Ariane. I'll be watching the launch with fingers crossed.

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 Рік тому +6

      We could get there faster with current tech if money was no object. This method is just more efficient/cheaper.

    • @chrisparrspacey_uk6917
      @chrisparrspacey_uk6917 Рік тому +5

      ​@Patreeko Time and political. ESA using a European launcher. Europa Clipper is heavier, launching 18 months later on a Falcon Heavy but arriving at Jupiter 15 months earlier.

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 Рік тому +4

      @@chrisparrspacey_uk6917 Is that political or is that because the project was started and contracts awarded before Falcon Heavy existed? Europa Clipper was rebooted, so a different launch vehicle had to be chosen.

    • @RaimoKangasniemi
      @RaimoKangasniemi Рік тому

      @@patreekotime4578 JUICE has been in development and set to launch on Ariane 5 since 2011 (it's original launch date has slipped only by a year). No politics involved in not using rockets owned by the Far-Right's favourite billionaire.

    • @RaimoKangasniemi
      @RaimoKangasniemi Рік тому

      @@chrisparrspacey_uk6917 ESA is doing enough damage by putting Euclid etc to launch on the Nazi launchers because of delays on Ariane 6, but JUICE's launch on Ariane 5 was set down on years before the Nazi Heavy launched for the first time.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Рік тому

    Thanks, Scott! 😊
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @jati
    @jati Рік тому

    Wow, thank you so much for this video. I didn’t know how ambitious and complex this mission was. Fascinating stuff. “Fly safe” indeed!

  • @ardag1439
    @ardag1439 Рік тому +18

    3:56 Land on Jupiter? What is this, KSP?

    • @lucaingi79
      @lucaingi79 Рік тому

      Wondering the same....

    • @Icantkeepout
      @Icantkeepout Рік тому

      Does Jupiter actually have mass to land on, I don't know but doubt it.

    • @CODENAMEDERPY
      @CODENAMEDERPY Рік тому +11

      He meant land on Ganymead. The Laplace-P was originally planned to be a Europa Lander, then a Ganymead lander, and then got canceled.

    • @gptiede
      @gptiede Рік тому +1

      @@Icantkeepout No, it doesn't. You are correct. I think Scott misspoke.

    • @DC2022
      @DC2022 Рік тому +2

      @@gptiede well, Jupiter has presumably a solid core made of ice, rock and metal having a mass around 15/18 Earth so technically there is something to land on... if you can endure the gigantonormous forces and radiation in the first place.

  • @explosivecorn
    @explosivecorn Рік тому +1

    Not sure why, but I lost it when Scott cleared his throat...

  • @LowFatWater07
    @LowFatWater07 Рік тому +3

    Searching for life on Europa, you say?! *Barotrauma intensifies*

  • @mk1st
    @mk1st Рік тому +1

    Hard to imagine colonizing the cosmos. It’s just so far to anywhere.

  • @ThompPL1
    @ThompPL1 Рік тому

    Europa Clipper launches after JUICE but actually will get to Jupiter before b/c much higher Characteristic Energy .

  • @jpaulc441
    @jpaulc441 Рік тому +3

    With a more powerful rocket could JUICE have taken a more direct route to Jupiter? I love the thought that after the initial launch, probes are essentially freefalling from Earth to the neighbouring planets... sure there are small course corrections with thrusters or reaction wheels but they're still basically falling. There's just something elegant about that which I like.

    • @chrisparrspacey_uk6917
      @chrisparrspacey_uk6917 Рік тому +6

      Yes, but it's costly. Using planetary flybys to raise aphelion is cheaper but takes longer. New Horizons got there in 13 months but was going so fast it couldn't slow down.

    • @andrewhillis9544
      @andrewhillis9544 Рік тому +1

      YES It's The MATHEMATICS/ORBITAL MECHANICS Of Sir ISSAC NEWTON (AND Others Too ! ! !) That MAKES This POSSIBLE ! ! !👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @akauppi2
    @akauppi2 Рік тому

    Very informative! Especially with the oribit animations. Hope your videos are still going in the 30’s so we get good coverage of the results!

  • @TeamMSound
    @TeamMSound Рік тому +3

    Back then, the MONOLITH warned us
    ALL THESE WORLDS
    ARE YOURS EXCEPT
    - EUROPA -
    ATTEMPT NO
    LANDING THERE
    USE THEM TOGETHER
    USE THEM IN PEACE
    ''2010: The Year We Make Contact''
    Well, hopefully there won't be any problems, because we're sending a probe there ;-) laughing
    Greetings from Germany
    Thanks for all the good Videos

    • @simongeard4824
      @simongeard4824 Рік тому

      That's okay, they got permission from Arthur C Clarke long ago...

  • @JBSmoke1
    @JBSmoke1 Рік тому

    I am SO looking forward to what JUICE finds!

  • @louissivo9660
    @louissivo9660 Рік тому +1

    I hope I'm around to see the results of this mission sent back to us. It's so exciting that we get these great probes out there. Love the pure science missions. What a wonderous age this is.

  • @Broccoli_32
    @Broccoli_32 Рік тому +10

    J U I C E

  • @Larslegos
    @Larslegos Рік тому +5

    I can only imagine what space agencies around the world could do with a budget as large as the US military budget

  • @only1thatmakessense
    @only1thatmakessense Рік тому

    It's impressive juice going to Jupiter like that 🌌 cheers ESA , good luck

  • @paulhaynes8045
    @paulhaynes8045 Рік тому +9

    One tiny problem with this, and so many other, space videos - it's not always obvious what is CGI and what is real. Could you do what Astrum does and indicate which visuals are CGI? It would be greatly appreciated.

    • @sarahs3832
      @sarahs3832 Рік тому

      I second this!

    • @mustafahasan957
      @mustafahasan957 Рік тому

      Good suggestion !

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 Рік тому +4

      I dont think many of these are strictly "pure" photographs. But I dont think any are strictly digital creations either. Most of them are assembled images of hundreds of actual photographs, animated in 3D and shaded. So if it starts from a photograph, is that "real" or CGI? Or as in the case with false color images based on data sets that dont represent visible light... is it "real" if it isnt true color? Are assembled images still considered photographs? Also, assembled photographs often dont look very good because often the view angles and lighting change between passes... or sometimes camera view angles add distortion, so they HAVE to be digitally processed to look like anything even remotely like a planet. It quickly becomes a very complex and even a political distinction that few people are likely even qualified to take on.
      But generally, these days if you are looking at "CGI" of Jupiter, it is usually based on real assembled photographs. Compare that with the Star Trek The Next Generation CGI artwork. The planets in that artwork were all created using digital paintings made by artists and then 3D animated. That is pure CGI and you rarely see that anymore, because we have the images, why not use them?

    • @paulhaynes8045
      @paulhaynes8045 Рік тому

      @@patreekotime4578 all good and interesting points, but I still think it would be better to know what we are looking at. It's obviously more interesting and informative to see a video made up of enhanced pictures stitched together and animated - no problem with that - but I'd like to know that's what it is, not just a clever bit of CGI.
      The problem we have now is that CGI is so good that it's almost indistinguishable from reality (and often 'better') so we're entering a world where you could almost argue that there's no point in sending expensive probes to the planets, when we can already 'see' a much better CGI. I wouldn't argue this, but then again I'm on very thin ice if I can't distinguish between CGI and the real thing!
      A pertinent example of this at the time of writing is the long awaited first orbital flight of Starship. There are so many excellent CGI renderings of this already around, that the real thing is only going to be recognisable by it's lower quality and the lack of 'impossible' angles (rocket emerging from clouds, taken from above, for example!) - or by something going wrong!
      As a space nerd, I, of course, want to see the real thing, warts and all. But there are millions (billions?) out there who wouldn't know if the TV company was using a CGI rendering when reporting the launch, because it looks more 'real' than the actual footage.
      Admittedly (with the rapid development of CGI, AI, etc) this is an existential problem that is only going to get worse and we'll probably just have to live with it. But Scott could do his bit towards clarity by just telling us what we're actually looking at.

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 Рік тому +1

      @@paulhaynes8045 So yall want him to produce his normal videos, and on top of that invent a nomenclature for describing all of the possible variations of manipulated digital images and then research every single image or clip he uses and correctly label it? You realize there a high probability that he likely doesnt know or the attribution is very vague. The current way of attributing images to say "artist's Impression" for anything that isnt strictly a photograph even when the image begins with actual photographs. Because "artists impression" can be anything from a oil painting completely invented in an artists head, to CGI based on real photographs and slightly manipulated (the lightning images come to mind). "Artists impression" doesnt even tell you if its CGI or oil paint, so its kind of pointless. And again, like I said, are false color images real or not? It becomes a rabbit hole and you are asking one random UA-camr to be the arbitor of how that attribution should be done when even NASA is vague on what is a real photograph and what is an assemblage? Like I said before, where is the line between "CGI" and "assembled image"? Is one "real" and one "fake"? Who decides? Yeah, not unreasonable at all. 🙄

  • @generaldvw
    @generaldvw Рік тому

    Something to look forward to😊

  • @Spedley_2142
    @Spedley_2142 Рік тому +4

    I can imagine thermal heating from gravity in a solid body but surely as soon as the hotter parts start getting mailable they just move rather than generate heat?

    • @bbgun061
      @bbgun061 Рік тому +3

      ah, but heat IS movement!

    • @QuantumHistorian
      @QuantumHistorian Рік тому +4

      @@bbgun061 Well yes, but no. Very different scales. When you're sat on a train doing 150km/h you're not way hotter than when stationary on the platform.
      @Jake S. Malleable parts still have friction, and don't have perfect elasticity. Take a rubber band, stretch it out in full and then let it contract again. Do that 50 times in quick succession. You'll see it's noticeably hotter at the end.

  • @foobarbecue
    @foobarbecue Рік тому +1

    4:02 "hoping to land on Jupiter" ... That would be quite a feat! I think you meant Ganymede.

  • @t65bx25
    @t65bx25 Рік тому +7

    JUICE!

  • @Danger_mouse
    @Danger_mouse Рік тому +2

    11 years is quite some road trip 😳

  • @Maxvellua
    @Maxvellua Рік тому

    Thank you for this review! Yes, it's quite a long route to reach Jupiter for JUICE. Even Cassini did it faster, but it was a longer journey - to Saturn.

  • @Kahnabys
    @Kahnabys Рік тому

    Good ol Man Scottley.

  • @MPaans
    @MPaans Рік тому +9

    I'm curious about the structural design of those solar panels to the main body. I'm sure they made sure it's gonna be strong enough, but it looks kinda finnicky. Feels like a burn would put a lot of stress on the trusses(?) (even in a vacuum), or are those solar panels like ultra light weight?

    • @croweater78
      @croweater78 Рік тому +2

      80 square metres of solar panels! Wow

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom Рік тому +5

      Really depends on the power of the engine. Just found out, just under 100lbs of thrust.

    • @IsardPragmatique93
      @IsardPragmatique93 Рік тому +7

      Engine has low trust but burns for a very long time so the acceleration is very low

    • @DC2022
      @DC2022 Рік тому +3

      @@IsardPragmatique93 nope, those are chemical ones with 425N / 95lbf of trust using just near 3700kg of NTO/MMH (for both attitude control and propulsion).
      But 425N is indeed very, very small but far beyond what ionic can offer.

    • @user-si5fm8ql3c
      @user-si5fm8ql3c Рік тому +1

      @@IsardPragmatique93 Theres not enough solar power out at Jupiter to make ion engines worth it

  • @bobhank3423
    @bobhank3423 Рік тому

    Looking forward to it 😅

  • @tjlastname5192
    @tjlastname5192 Рік тому +3

    I really wish they would get orbiters for Uranus and Neptune. I know it’s hard to do, but I think it would be worth it.

    • @owensmith7530
      @owensmith7530 Рік тому +5

      Absolutely, Uranus and Neptune orbiters are overdue. It's all well and good focussing missions on the interesting moons of Jupiter and Saturn, but without Uranus and Neptune orbiters we don't even know which of their moons might be as interesting. It's been said that we went to look and Jupiter and Saturn and the real discovery was their moons.

    • @tjlastname5192
      @tjlastname5192 Рік тому +1

      @@owensmith7530 agree. We don’t even know enough to know what we want to know, if any of that made since. Haha
      I could be wrong but I think voyager only did a fly by.

    • @owensmith7530
      @owensmith7530 Рік тому +2

      @@tjlastname5192 Uranus and Neptune have had precisely one fly by each, that was by Voyager 2.

    • @thomaslohmann3808
      @thomaslohmann3808 Рік тому +1

      They should have coughed up the money for 2 more Cassini probes. One for Uranus and one for Neptune.

    • @tjlastname5192
      @tjlastname5192 Рік тому

      @@thomaslohmann3808 I agree. as cool as some other stuff is, I think we would learn way more interesting stuff from that.

  • @General12th
    @General12th Рік тому

    Hi Scott!

  • @Illumas
    @Illumas Рік тому +1

    Cameras on space probes are the best PR for NASA

    • @Martinit0
      @Martinit0 Рік тому

      NASA knows who is the customer LOL

  • @pixels_
    @pixels_ Рік тому +8

    this launch is very important 17776 lore!!

  • @GuntherRommel
    @GuntherRommel Рік тому +1

    Wow... It's going to be game changing when we get an honestly powerful non-chemical drive. Something that can push 1G for a few weeks would give us the system.

  • @Bohr2um
    @Bohr2um Рік тому

    Actually been waiting for this. Searching for life underneath the surface.

  • @ZachBillings
    @ZachBillings Рік тому +1

    Is there a musical sub track in this video? Thought I was hearing a distant train at first but realized it was like a deep chime in the video.

  • @cerealport2726
    @cerealport2726 Рік тому +3

    Another youtube channel, "Launch Pad Astronomy" has an interesting 20-ish minute interview with Dr Olivier Witasse, the (a?) JUICE project scientist.

  • @perryrush6563
    @perryrush6563 Рік тому

    Thank you to all the internet science nerds who are willing to process the images. From us not so serious science nerds who simply like to bask in the amazingness of the galaxy.

  • @KawaloliASTP
    @KawaloliASTP Рік тому

    Im so excited that the multiple mega mission of europa and ganymed orbiters got an revival with little changes! Icy Moons Explorer and Europa Clipper will be the stars of space probes for Europe and US. That they will work together at the same time, the japanese team onbaord and as children of the legendary galileo and cassini mission. Wow!
    Good luck for the team and maybe we find another life in the solar system. I can't wait.

  • @relanejr
    @relanejr Рік тому +2

    “ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT EUROPA.
    ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE.
    USE THEM TOGETHER. USE THEM IN PEACE.”

  • @meatballwanger
    @meatballwanger Рік тому

    This is the best thing I ever saw.

  • @OzzyInSpace
    @OzzyInSpace Рік тому +1

    Officially launching "A Juicer"! lol epic!

  • @UncleFester84
    @UncleFester84 Рік тому +1

    I didn't realize that Juice was such a big boi

  • @oasntet
    @oasntet Рік тому +1

    I do hope we get a picture of an eclipse caused by Jupiter while in orbit of Ganymede... Sometimes around 2035?
    How much sooner could this mission get to its destination if it had a beefier launch vehicle? If one of the other reusable super-heavy vehicles brings the cost of massive launches down below the cost of an Ariane 5 launch in the next few years, we could probably leapfrog JUICE and get a second mission out there before it arrives...

  • @stevenson720
    @stevenson720 Рік тому +2

    Hey scott, How much do the tidal forces slow the orbit? How long until it de-orbits?

  • @JetSetAshe
    @JetSetAshe Рік тому +3

    Very important step for far-earth football commentary!

  • @lukeskywalker7457
    @lukeskywalker7457 Рік тому

    I am holding my breath for this! Wow 10 years for a human is a long time but for in galactic terms very short.

  • @decibel_tastic2869
    @decibel_tastic2869 Рік тому

    Thank you Scott. Back on point. The motor(s) on Juice firing, again, again, on time on budget, 12 years in !? After passing through radiation, high magnetic fields, micro asteroids.

    • @scottmanley
      @scottmanley  Рік тому

      Rosetta managed over a decade in space just fine. Cassini and Huygens too.

    • @aemrt5745
      @aemrt5745 Рік тому

      Voyager II was built with 1970s technology, visited four gas giant planets, and it still operational 43 years after launch.
      Engineers, we solve problems!

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid Рік тому +3

    It seems fitting that Europe is doing a mission to Europa!
    I mean, in many European languages such as German or Greek, the two words are homonyms. So the space privé will feel right at home 😄

  • @andrewlindberg1887
    @andrewlindberg1887 Рік тому +1

    Scott.. How can Jupiter’s magnetic field be exploited in some way? Like a long wire stretching out from Io.
    Or surfing around the system with only a long wire and a power supply using no propellants.

  • @HeliSal700
    @HeliSal700 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for these Details on this mission. Love it.
    But, while it's intuitive how a spacecraft uses gravity to accelerate, it's counterintuitive to understand how we can use gravity to slow down spacecraft.
    Can you please make a video on how the physics of this maneuver works?
    This would be great.

    • @Martinit0
      @Martinit0 Рік тому

      Think of it like a gravity acceleration assist, but with time reversed.

  • @elonmax404
    @elonmax404 Рік тому +4

    Europe exploring Europa😭😭😭

  • @UnshavenStatue
    @UnshavenStatue Рік тому

    I thought the background music was a train horn from the yard on the other side of town xD

  • @evrydayamerican
    @evrydayamerican Рік тому

    That thing jumps off the platform once those side pieces light lol

  • @dhoyda
    @dhoyda Рік тому

    Here I am thinking that the wait for images from the most recent Mars Rover or from the JWST was a long wait after their respective launches.

  • @crexis1
    @crexis1 Рік тому

    When you get called a nerd by Scott Manley then you really are a Nerd!

  • @Soacwiththaface
    @Soacwiththaface Рік тому

    No rumble 🌴🌴 2day🔥🌀🔥

  • @emmeXXtreme
    @emmeXXtreme Рік тому +1

    ESA on his way to do a jool 5 mission 🤞

  • @jull1234
    @jull1234 Рік тому +1

    Just need to combine it with the New European Water Test On Neptune for the JUICE NEWTON mission.

  • @planetsec9
    @planetsec9 Рік тому

    I like how JUICE will still be doing gravity assists of Earth in 2029, what a really powerful and mighty rocket with high C3 Ariane 5 is, really great to see planetary exploration using classic 1970's techniques in 2023 thanks to mass fraction constraints, this is definitely the most efficient and sensible way to explore the outer planets....

  • @zombeeduck2013
    @zombeeduck2013 Рік тому +1

    Any estimate on how much sooner we would have this data, if the second stage could reignite?

  • @SRFriso94
    @SRFriso94 Рік тому +4

    When Scott is explaining the route JUICE is going to take to Ganymede, all I can hear is Matt Lowne: "So we will depart for Jool with the Eve - Kerbin - Kerbin gravity assist, and once we get to Jool, we will capture into its orbit using Tylo's massive gravity well."

  • @AzoreanProud
    @AzoreanProud Рік тому

    We need Azores space station now!

  • @silversurfer66_
    @silversurfer66_ Рік тому +1

    u talked about something i will be dead by

    • @snickle1980
      @snickle1980 Рік тому

      And I'll be at least 12-14 years older than i am now. I'm seeing this comment quite a bit. =/

  • @g00nther
    @g00nther Рік тому

    It fascinating the orbital manuevers required to get the spacecraft to its destination. You'd think that you can just point at it and fly there. ANyway Scott, I'm sure you can figure out something on KSP to fly there in half the time 😋

    • @snickle1980
      @snickle1980 Рік тому

      Yeah, learning to play KSP dissolved all of my notions about flying straight there. At his point, I practically have a doctorate in delta V, but learning dwarf fortress? That's an entirely new field of science...

  • @michaeljames5936
    @michaeljames5936 Рік тому

    A cool sight would be a ten to twenty kilometre wide asteroid, hitting Europa, or Ganymede. Crunch! splash!

    • @michaeljames5936
      @michaeljames5936 Рік тому

      Will someone get an AI to make me that as a video, please, please.

  • @declan9876
    @declan9876 Рік тому

    nice

  • @pierrelemoine8669
    @pierrelemoine8669 Рік тому +1

    I can't believe he forgot to mention that Gandalf, Frodo, AND Sonic are going to ride on JUICE!

  • @Tomcroese
    @Tomcroese Рік тому

    Ok, I fly safe, and waiting for results!