Honestly they need to add an "ancient teaching" for holy paladin. Would be easier for them to balance its dmg and healing. IMHO, go one side caster holy pally and then other melee like monk would be nice
Lightsmith seems amazing. For holy, to me at least, it’s such a strong fantasy move. You are literally smithing the power of light into weapons and armor to empower those around you. That’s SO COOL.
Absolutely. Haven’t played hpal since denounce spam but this looks insanely fun. Love my rsham to death though. Wont shelve it but I GOTTA try this pally.
Had a couple pulls in Beta that were doing over 1mil DPS. I think if the base hpal kit is good enough to skate through heal checks this will be huge in keys. I just don't have a ton of faith in the base(spec) kit still.
I'm very hopeful myself, there's always some holy paladin that does insanely high keys no matter how bad it is, so if they can do it I like to think I could too lol
I really, really hope that this goes live with even half the power it has now. I’ve been building a mythic plus set up around this entirely focused on CDR for weapons and huge healing from avenging crusader. Properly timed, you can do as much damage as a DPS and full heal the group with one Crusader Strike.
I really like lightsmith so I dearly hope its viable :( Negatives: Its yet another button Lighsmith doesnt just have the sheer buffs that Herald gives to our spells like Luminosity, Second Sunrise, Sun Sear, Eternal Flame healing for 25% on self.. etc etc. Since Hpal core kit is still pretty weak eveb heavily nerfing beacons, tyr's, glmmer, I cant see LS comparing to Herald for the time being. I really hope I end up wrong though!
I just think with the recent gutting of lightsmith, it's output was heavily reduced! All I know is this damage felt pretty crazy, and it's like making the dps do all the work for you lol!
Cool video. I really wanna play LS in TWW. Next time, maybe try all out melee wings. More uptime of melee wings, fewer WoG and more shield of righteousness and veneration procs into hammer of wrath.
Hi man cool video ! Quick question ! I assume you are using elvui for your party frames ! How do you setup for the frames to show the actual icon of the glimmer of light/beacon of light etc ? Cant seem to b able to trace it
@@gojiramonster2388 You don't punish yourself, you make it clear that you don't prefer something Blizzard made by not participating so if you don't give them the incentive in the form of money, they might start questioning why that happened, example Shadowlands and so we may get the chance of having better changes.
Tested it and the damage contribution from Sacred weapon it's huge, and the shield it's amazing, your party it's safe to big aoe damage. But I feel it's belongs more to a caster playstyle than a meele one (I am not saying it's bad, but for meele style can feel a little cunkly). And Lightsmith + Blessing of summer juggling can feel a little overwhelming
I want to get more testing in and try out the random procs! I also personally like this more in melee, I think with a melee build you can proc your own weapon more than while casting!
Honestly? Holy paladin might be a prime candidate for another aug like spec, if they're looking to branch out. Maybe even split the holy tree into 2 specs, one melee healer and one caster / buff? Holy and Emperyan? Paladin always had that "buff your allies" archetype
Sofar I really Wana play Hpally/Aug/Spriest in a comp with what ever tank and a nutty dps (my uholy dk friend for me) and pocket the DK. I'm ngl I'm kind of excited.
@@LBNinja7 I think we'll get to test it tonight with my team the hard part is vdh isn't doing it for being able to live the big pulls, bdk works but you kind of have to ramp the pull so the DK dosent fall over, prot warr seems like the only one that can live really big pulls atm maybe guardian.
It’s funny people have macros and addons but lack the basic hand eye coordination to click on the right target. If one cannot execute basic foundational principles, I need not the extrapolation of their critique and theory when not built upon a solid core.
The fact that light smith doesn’t interact with HP generation at all is pretty weird - you should get some incentive for casting WOG… every X HP consumer spent gives out a shield/weapon at reduced effectiveness.
5:08 talking smack about the mage’s dps and yet gets outhealed by a mage😂😂. I wouldn’t trust a thing this clicker says. Must be his second week playing wow.
Honestly they need to add an "ancient teaching" for holy paladin. Would be easier for them to balance its dmg and healing. IMHO, go one side caster holy pally and then other melee like monk would be nice
Lightsmith seems amazing. For holy, to me at least, it’s such a strong fantasy move. You are literally smithing the power of light into weapons and armor to empower those around you. That’s SO COOL.
Yeah it's fun af. I like the play style. Will most likely be my new main next expansion coming from a long time priest main
Absolutely. Haven’t played hpal since denounce spam but this looks insanely fun. Love my rsham to death though. Wont shelve it but I GOTTA try this pally.
Yeah I've been pretty shocked (pun intended) at how much fun I'm having on paladin... mistweaver might have some competition in TWW for my favorite
@@LBNinja7 if laser beam gets buffed, where do you think lightsmith sees action?
Had a couple pulls in Beta that were doing over 1mil DPS. I think if the base hpal kit is good enough to skate through heal checks this will be huge in keys. I just don't have a ton of faith in the base(spec) kit still.
I'm very hopeful myself, there's always some holy paladin that does insanely high keys no matter how bad it is, so if they can do it I like to think I could too lol
Love the video dude! Long time watcher but you've been my go to guy when it comes to healers for TWW. Keep it up !
I’m exited to try light smith on Prot 🤘
This is a really nice concept, on the concept level, it only remains to see how it's will be finalized.
It reminds me of erza scarlett and bellona, very cool concept!
I really, really hope that this goes live with even half the power it has now. I’ve been building a mythic plus set up around this entirely focused on CDR for weapons and huge healing from avenging crusader.
Properly timed, you can do as much damage as a DPS and full heal the group with one Crusader Strike.
Oh dang, if this goes live then imma hit you up for that build lol
I really like lightsmith so I dearly hope its viable :(
Negatives:
Its yet another button
Lighsmith doesnt just have the sheer buffs that Herald gives to our spells like Luminosity, Second Sunrise, Sun Sear, Eternal Flame healing for 25% on self.. etc etc.
Since Hpal core kit is still pretty weak eveb heavily nerfing beacons, tyr's, glmmer, I cant see LS comparing to Herald for the time being.
I really hope I end up wrong though!
I just think with the recent gutting of lightsmith, it's output was heavily reduced! All I know is this damage felt pretty crazy, and it's like making the dps do all the work for you lol!
Cool video. I really wanna play LS in TWW. Next time, maybe try all out melee wings. More uptime of melee wings, fewer WoG and more shield of righteousness and veneration procs into hammer of wrath.
Hi man cool video ! Quick question ! I assume you are using elvui for your party frames ! How do you setup for the frames to show the actual icon of the glimmer of light/beacon of light etc ? Cant seem to b able to trace it
Not elvui, just the base ui! You can go in edit mode and enable all frames to look like raid frames!
Blizzard: "Are you have fun? HOW DARE YOU! *throws nerf hammer*"
Player:"I guess i won't sub."
This is how it should work (the player part i mean) xD
Lol for real, but hey this is just as fun! I don't see how shamans are still subbing to the game, when was their last rework?
why do i have to punish myself by not playing?
@@gojiramonster2388 You don't punish yourself, you make it clear that you don't prefer something Blizzard made by not participating so if you don't give them the incentive in the form of money, they might start questioning why that happened, example Shadowlands and so we may get the chance of having better changes.
Nerfs are needed. These games are a constant balancing act. It just seems like everyone has to cry when their class isn't the best. Get over it.
Ofc i was just being sarcastic :P
Tested it and the damage contribution from Sacred weapon it's huge, and the shield it's amazing, your party it's safe to big aoe damage. But I feel it's belongs more to a caster playstyle than a meele one (I am not saying it's bad, but for meele style can feel a little cunkly). And Lightsmith + Blessing of summer juggling can feel a little overwhelming
It's feels so cool when you heal someone and a weapon or shield are cast on them tho (thanks to the hero talent)
I want to get more testing in and try out the random procs! I also personally like this more in melee, I think with a melee build you can proc your own weapon more than while casting!
Honestly? Holy paladin might be a prime candidate for another aug like spec, if they're looking to branch out. Maybe even split the holy tree into 2 specs, one melee healer and one caster / buff? Holy and Emperyan? Paladin always had that "buff your allies" archetype
I mean that would be so sick and make a ton of sense in the class fantasy. I would hope they do this or something similar with shaman
Kinda feel like this style of pally is just a flashy augmentation evoker…. Am I wrong…. Buffing your team mates to increase your healing or dmg….
Its better using arnaments on yourself or teammates?
On your teammates. You will get the effect no matter what, but using it on your team mates let's you control who else gets it!
Sofar I really Wana play Hpally/Aug/Spriest in a comp with what ever tank and a nutty dps (my uholy dk friend for me) and pocket the DK. I'm ngl I'm kind of excited.
Yeah uhdk is going kinda buckwild on beta right now so that would be a super sick comp. Just 3 people buffing one op dps!
@@LBNinja7 I think we'll get to test it tonight with my team the hard part is vdh isn't doing it for being able to live the big pulls, bdk works but you kind of have to ramp the pull so the DK dosent fall over, prot warr seems like the only one that can live really big pulls atm maybe guardian.
Most folks seem to be eating hpal lower than all the other healers
Sounds like they found a way to make Hpal a buff class. Move over, Augvoker.
Blizz needs to remove addon's and macros. Using programs and addon's, but cannot click on the correct name plate. saw enough..
what
It’s funny people have macros and addons but lack the basic hand eye coordination to click on the right target.
If one cannot execute basic foundational principles, I need not the extrapolation of their critique and theory when not built upon a solid core.
The fact that light smith doesn’t interact with HP generation at all is pretty weird - you should get some incentive for casting WOG… every X HP consumer spent gives out a shield/weapon at reduced effectiveness.
5:08 talking smack about the mage’s dps and yet gets outhealed by a mage😂😂. I wouldn’t trust a thing this clicker says. Must be his second week playing wow.
What are you on about, no one took damage that pull it was all self shielding... 🥴