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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- In todays video we look at a picture that has been circulating around of a dangerous tree that barber chaired and lifts a compact tractor off the ground. We also push over some trees with a Bobcat E63 Excavator
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Great video. A buddy of mine took a logging class at a timber school and showed me the basics of a plunge cut and strap. What a much safer way to drop trees. Got to practice on a job where someone was putting up a new horse fence so we could play around with steering and tree placement. Results amazed me.
Logging classes really do help a whole lot. I know a lot of people look at operating a chainsaw and felling trees as one of those "manly man skills" that you "don't need training for", but the reality is that logging is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. The amount of people who die every year from incorrectly felling and bucking/limbing trees or cripple themselves by not operating their chainsaws properly is absurd. Lots of hidden dangers and special felling techniques that you'd never think of as a layman. Better to let those who have experience and who have seen things go wrong share their knowledge with you so that you don't end up being a statistic.
Hi Mike, As is typical in these incidences it appears to be a couple cumulative errors. One…his wedge cut was a face cut (not the humbolt cut which is generally safer but seldom used by novice tree fellers) but more importantly, his wedge cut was not nearly open enough. Two…back cut was made but he was not “cut-up”…left too much holding wood. Got on tractor to push tree over, wedge closed shut, holding wood too strong, Ka-bam…barber chair and tractor went wheels up. Probably an alder…they’re ignorant that way! Really like your channel. Dave
Mike, you have such a knack of making not only informative videos but also so interesting. Melissa is also a great addition and I'm glad this has become such a cool family affair. Thank you for all these videos.
@@Morgansunleashed I look forward to all the videos you guys create and the next project you'll take on. I'm an OWTM fan!
BTW, I'm Loving catching up on your older videos ! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
One word. Winch.
If you need to get a tree down with your tractor then get a winch and pull it down from a safe angle/distance. Also a block and a strap so that you can redirect the cable so that you're not felling towards your tractor. Don't mess around with trying to push it over with the loader. Not only is the loader not built for it, but it also isn't strong enough to stop a large tree if it decides to fall backwards or split, meaning you'll probably end up with the tree on top of the tractor with all the damage and nastiness that implies. All it really does is give you a false sense of security which makes you more likely to get sloppy and take shortcuts, which translates to bad news later down the line.
Yes, why have life and machine that weighs 10,000 pounds pushing over a 50,000 pound tree? Use wedges, drive them in, cable up to a winch attached to something you don't mind wrecking, like another tree. That tree had enough weight to pick up that tractor like it was featherweight, that's the issue.
Hi Mike second time watching this video but I saw it in the line up and I thought I don’t remember this happening to Mike lol. Time sure flies by. Have a great day. Lisa
Thanks Mike. Morgan's be careful. Praying for you, Melissa and Family. Love y'all and enjoy videos. 🙏...👉
Mellisa spoke with true compassion, while thinking "Oh no what is that husband of mine doing now?"
Great demonstration. That's why I watch this channel to learn! This video could probably save someone's life or avoid serious injury. Thanks for taking the time. Melissa coming out and telling you "I know you're not pushing that tree over", too funny! Have a day! Btw, Greta is really enjoying her screen time lately!
I'm the type who would hop on the tractor and give it a little push while hollering get out off the way. My biggest trigger is being told what not to do, and my wife knows this.
This dude is the luckiest man on earth!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice trucks, house, tractors, and a PREFECT WIFE! GOD BLESS!
Great video Mike, you explained the situation very well. I do tree work for a living and that just goes to show how dangerous the job really is and how fast things can go wrong. I’m glad you take your time and work safely while doing anything, never want to see anybody get hurt.
First words out of her mouth. What do you think you’re doin. Lol. Every husband has heard that too many times to count. You guys are great.
A wife famous words to her husband and children.... her husband’s famous words.... YES DEAR
When you're shoving from the back cut side, you're definitely taking a dumb chance that close in. The top of the tree will do all the work for you if your cut is in the right place. Ten minutes of thoughtful planning beats 4 hours picking a tractor out of a tree. A handful of felling wedges works wonders... the wrap strap is a good idea too.
GREAT GREAT video Mike you are right on the money I think. I live in the desert where we have no trees but very VERY good advice.
Okay I had to comment on this. This was the first time I ever saw that picture. Now that said I spent a lot of time in the computer gaming testing area. When I was dealing with network for 15 years. picked up a lot of what they considered common knowledge that would not be common knowledge to people that Harvest firewood farming and homesteading. My first question is this is there any other pictures from any other angle? My next question which Mike pointed out is where are the tractor tracks in the snow? That question is the first legitimate question that raises other questions. If the tracks are in the foreground out of frame then why was he pushing sideways to the cut? Also take note of the stump below the cuts the bark and coloration is completely different from the rest of the tree. If he was pushing sideways how did the tractor suddenly jump 45 degrees to get caught in the the tree? Now look at the trees in the background that runs into the left front tire. I actually went to a 96 inch screen to look at this as close as I could in HD. The truck should be visible between the top of the tire and the front brace for the front end loader we should see part of that trunk we do not is it is it have a big swoop to the right which would be odd to that tree? And finally why are the tires so clean? Call photoshop on this one
My neighbour used his tractor with “no cab” to push trees and I found him the next day still in the seat wedged in from tree that rode over the bucket and suffocated him to death.
If there isn’t a protective cab to protect you don’t do it folks.
Melissa reminds me of my wife. After 30+ years she still asks me "what do you think you're doing?" Oh well. I guess I'll eventually get to know my place. Lol. Take care.
Ms Morgan always improves these videos. Your chickens remind me of hearing a local rooster crowing nearby. This area is pretty well built up, definitely town, not country. That bird brought back memories of visits to farms as a kid. Thank you all for reminding me of better times and better places. You and other UA-camrs provide links to our country roots, when other ties to it are long gone. God Bless you. .
I agree on what you think happened. That would have been a ride more thrilling than anything at 6 Flags.
Very good video Mike and good advice from the BOTH of you. It pays to listen to the SPOUSE. I too hope the guy or gal is alright and hopefully will pay more attention to what they are doing next time. Thanks so much for sharing.
24 years of EMS and Heavy Rescue. I got to see many times accident scenes that most people wouldn't beleive it actually happened. I hope the person was alright. But love watching your videos to learn the proper way of taking a tree down. I have taken some smaller trees down.
MIKE, very educational, information. Thanks for your teaching abilities, it can make you, ......LIVE ANOTHER DAY! !
You don't want to cut into any tree and then try pushing it over. That is how trees split. And you get photos like that one. If you feel you must put pressure on a tree to force it to go the direction you need. Use a excavator and not a tractor. The excavator weighs more than a tractor and can be moved side to side to get you out of trouble.
I would recommend when pushing a tree over with an excavator to put the bucket flat bottom against the tree. Especially with a dead tree. The teeth of the bucket are likely to split the tree and bring the top back down on you. God bless
Thomas Desmond I’ve cleared many trees over the years and there’s no need to rake and shake the tree with the teeth. Just use the heel and uncurl the bucket to sent the tree off. Never the teeth. Call that rake a shake. Makes the sticks fall off and the top to break off on bad trees
Melissa’s first reaction was “What da ya thing your doin!”.
It just proves that she loves you Mike, and doesn’t want you to get hurt or killed.
Obviously she wants to keep the man she has....
Great and timely video. I'm getting ready to remove a bunch of trees in a couple of weeks and I rented a mini excavator to do the job. Most of the trees are next to a road and creek so I figured that the excavator would work a whole lot better than my tractor. Cant wait to get started with the project
That picture is mine. We just figured it would be easiest way to change all 4 tires at the same time. We ment to do it and it worked perfectly
Todd Reynolds lol
The tractor in the tree has earned the " Dunce Award " by whomever accomplished it. First off, I never, repeat never work under a raised bucket & arms doing tree work or most anything else for that matter! I can't speak for anyone else, but I NEVER trust hydraulics with my life. PERIOD.
I like the excavator work Mike, they are a blast to work with as I have operated much larger units than this unit. I Like the Bobcat with those rubber tracks & the bucket & thumb, real handy.
Not sure why you are taking out the entire softwood trees, rather than cut them flush to the ground, perhaps a future garden area or bldg. site?
Bill... :~)
It's very real.
Mike you and Melissa and your family are what makes our Country such a wonderful place to live and raise a family. God Bless you all, I've only just started about a week ago to watch your productions, you guys are already my favorite! Might I suggest a name for your production company, "Triple M Productions".
Very Good Information!. Thank You, I just purchased a 4 acre wooded lot and an OLD (82) IH 260A 74 HP Skid Loader with 7 foot Box Blade in the back!. I am planning to use it a lot..
Hi folks,
Those of us that have worked in the timber industry understand that the term "widow maker " doesn't just refer to a few options. It refers to serious tree felling accidents come in a wide variety of circumstances and errors. The problem with that tree was the rotten hole in the center that the operator was unaware of.
Hell of a tractor barber chair
Barber chair Widow maker
Lumber jack is the most dangerous trade there is
I was taught to cut the front notch half way in the tree with a V. Then cut straight in from the back at the center of the V. I have never failed to drop a tree exactly where I wanted it to go. It will go exactly 90 degrees to that front notch cut.
That picture was taken just a couple of miles from house but I still haven't heard how it happened. If I find out any information on it I will let you know.
Yea let us know
Please let us know if anybody claims that photo. Also, Melissa's question was familiar. Thanks
This actually happened to me, only it was my bran new chaisaw that took the hit. It got caught in the tree splitting and bent the bar until it looked like a spatula. The saw was crushed. It pays to look at the tree very carefully before you make your attack on it. The tree was a poplar. I was very lucky that I was not hurt.
It looks real to me, or at least very plausible! I see shadows in the right places and at just the right intensity.
we do not have excavetor ,we use long rope and snatch block and pull it over . well done thanks
Very interesting and instructional at the same time, Mike !! Remember, Safety first !!
I like the mini excavator approach a lot of my neighbors that did use dozers to clear trees or now using excavators tell me it is faster and gives you move control. Thanks for take the time to make the video.
Melissa your great. I can't count the number of times my wife has said the same thing to me. " What do you think you are doing." That made me laugh and Mike's reaction was the same as mine usually is.
Mike Firestone ”I’m not going to push it over...”
”I know you're not that's why I came out here.” 🤣
I had a flashback. Haha
Mike's right. If you don't know what you're doing, hire somebody to do it. After a disaster involves you, the first thing that'll come out of your mouth could be, "gee, I'd pay double if I knew I was going to break my back, or cut into my leg, or fell a tree right on top of my truck".
I will support my local economy and hire a pro.
i love watching equipment work when the operator knows what they are doing. that was a good informative video. HAVE A DAY👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Matthew
Great idea to use that pic as a thumbnail, I bet this will be one of your most watched vids. Funny how closely that chicken hawk was watching you. She was there quickly to tell you the way it was!
Keep on tractoring and God bless.
lol lucky kubotas are tough ah jon lol
Mike love your videos from mi do wood for heat love it
@@sharonwarner7493 i guess it's not ford found on road dead its now ford found in tree dead lol hahahahaha
Another great video Mike, My guess is the tree barber chaired but got hung up in other trees. The reason I say that is the part that split is shorter than the trunk. Like it was cut off to clear the front of the tractor when it was pushed the rest of the way down. He forgot about the loader My guess for what it's worth.
That is the reason that I think it is fake, Jim.
Mike, Great video. You always manage to teach an old dog a new trick or two! Keep the videos coming.
Thanks for another video full of value.
I would take the apple tree out and replace it with a variety of dwarf fruit tree's in your preferred location after you've finished your new yard. I like watching another property owner that takes pride in ownership and creates something to be proud of for himself and his family to enjoy. BE SAFE MIKE !!!
No I didn’t see that picture,
but thanx to you I have.
It’s out now who’s the Boss, great job enjoyed that!!!
Hard to see, but I don’t see a snow angel in the snow, or a lump covered in snow. Also hydraulic lines look good, no shock loading, still very scary even in slow motion very little time to react. I’m with you if the person was in the seat I sincerely hope all is well. If you find the source Mike, send him a link to your channel, 14 minutes could have made a difference. Great video, Melissa is great my wife says same type of suggestions (lol ) to me just a little higher in volume.
lol
I was laughing as I saw Melissa headed towards you, after almost 50 years of marriage, I get asked the same question, in much the same tone. As for the tractor, look closely at the picture and you will notice that they didn't make a good wedge/notch cut before attempting to do the back cut.
Melissa......"I know you're not ....I came out here to tell you you aren't" we see who wears the pants :-) LOL
LOL now we know who the real boss is. That was too funny.
@@MorgansunleashedThat's what I mean
Yup, we know who wears the pants, and she fills them out real good to, in all the right places.
Good educational video. For those trees near the power line, some guys recommend cutting the roots then 'pull' them down. You get slightly better control on where the tree is going but you need long chains or heavy rope to keep the tree from hitting the tractor.
That apple tree is part of the angry orchard apple trees. LOL great video
Possible that the tree wasn't all that bad, but maybe the force of the tractor pushing on it, created the forces for the barber chair to come about.
Great work Mike you made it look easy.
Melissa: Whatcha Dooen? Mike: Demo pushen tree over. Melissa: Came out here to tell ya "No Your Not." I love it...my ex used to tell me the same - but I like your explanation of how that could have happened with that "Hanging Tractor Tree." Your right - hope the guy is okay.
The main cause of barber chair is to much back force or pull. It's a typical FNG mistake. Great video
That excavator sure does look like fun
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You don't have anything if you don't have a sharp saw! If you don't have that,don't start!
well first off your wife is good looking so congrats on that second i think the tree had a vertical split in the trunk the guy cut his notch then made his back cut and then he pushed with the tractor and it was just enough to complete the split and he didnt have his cut deep enough so it kick stand on him split the rest of the way and catapulted the tractor in the end if you dont know what your doing your life is not worth it and i hope who ever it was is ok third iv never heard of that tractor it kinda resembles brandson but it looked like it had a 8 year warranty thats pretty good im going to look in to them thanks for the video
Yes I noticed the dark stains of the split too!
I also believe it's a real picture and the reason you don't see any tracks is because after the tree lifted it the tractor pivoted. The tractor is not at the right angle if he was pushing it. Still scary and how in the world would you get that down???
Now thats a video we would all love to see "How to remove a tractor from a tree" lol
The front notch on that doesn't look very big either. We have had a lot of wind this winter and I've noticed a lot of stress cracks in my trees. Not sure if that would of had anything to do with it? Another great video Mike!
Real easy to get killed or hurt around trees and or equipment. Was pushing on a 30" dead oak with a D-6 and a widowmaker came down and hit the 4 post ROPS cover. Crushed front left 4" square tubing upright over an inch and really got my attention.Section of tree that came down probably weighed 500 pounds and fell from 20' or so.After that if I'm taking down trees it's with a dozer and the strong ROPS they have. Tractors are for skidding and their loaders are for loading: not taking down(or pushing) standing trees.A mini or better yet midi excavator like you had in the intro is good too but don't have one(yet).
Really makes u think of just how dangerous felling trees can be
Another day of work progress!!👍👊
You guys were getting winter and we’re in full-on late spring mode with temps already bumping 80°. That excavator looks like it’s a lot of fun.
dead trees can as you said be very dangerous = widow maker..
What a great video, I know some folks that would push on a tree like this, man. Keep up the great work!
LOOKS REAL TO ME.
Getting that tractor out of the tree might be as much fun as the ride it took up into the tree! Where would you start?
Chain it up by the axles and lower it with a mini ex that can handle the weight
Mike makes using that excavator look easy... Have a day!
Thanks
I really enjoyed that one. Learned a lot! Liked how you did the first one real time, then the others fast speed. Very helpful to learn on that first one. Thanks!
I think you are absolutely correct sir.
What wonderful toys you have Mr. Morgan , nice job as always 2 thumbs up
Wife: "I just came to tell you, you're NOT going to push the tree". 😁
Because he was using a Ford. 😁 Lol!!! And I love how your wife came out ”what are you doing!?” Mine would have said exactly the same.
You guys have weather like us in NC. We get all four seasons in one week.
As always, great info. Lack of info and experience cause a lot of dangerous situations. Thanks for sharing and helping other stay away from dangerous situations.
I have been pushing a tree (dead standing) over and the top broke off and came down RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOOD of the same size tractor !! Scared the bajeeezus outta me
living in eastern Ohio, close to you, I have been saying the same thing for the past 3 weeks looking always looking at the predicted forecasts " next week its supposed to get nicer, next week its going to better , next week its going to get nice" now its almost April and ive almost given up hope its ever going to get any better this year.. ha
Enjoyed this video, good job Melissa is there to see fair play! 👍
Remember when breaking out anything like roots with an excavator if you feel your boom stop. You have a lot more power with the curl function of the bucket.
Good job there mister Morgan and good words of advice. Very nicely said
Yes most defiantly that tree could snag the tractor on its way down; I thank you hit the nail on the head on how the tractor climbed up there. I built a cordwood house with over 100 cord in the wall and 128 beams, post and caps per floor with two floors and a widows walk on the top - all hand cut. So I've spent my fair share of time in the woods around split trees, learners and widow makers. A barber-chair, as you called it, is the most dreaded because when they come down there is a lot of variables as to how THAT tree is going to come down. Some times they just split and fall over but I would say the worst scenario would involve swampy ground, leaner tree with a split. They can spring back over the top of you and drop and/or arc around the trunk 180* slicing and uprooting everything in their path - bad ju ju either way.
Thanks for the video.
heads up or off out there.
I saw a car that said UA-cam “OutdoorsWithTheMorgans on I-79 so I decided to check out your channel
Jeep Wrangler?
In the case of the picture it looks like some one solo cutting and trying to push it over aftr getting the saw hung up,it takes a some one cutting and one operating the tractor. I have done alot of trees with a machine and a hand faller,never had one go this wrong.
Maybe he was trying to redirect the tree. The tree was leaning right and he was trying to push it left??
Maybe the lumberjack used the tractor instead of a wedge at the horizontal cut. Or the chainsaw got stuck from the weight of the tree and the tractor was used to release the tree weight. Or the tractor was the insurance policy that the tree would fall in the desired direction. Good photo to share for all.
I seen that photo on 9 of the offroad tractor groups I'm in. Yep I think he had the bucket on the tree a little too hard and as he was cutting the tree split and up goes the tractor. I hope who ever it is got that nice tractor down with no damage!! Good video was honestly hoping you were the owner of the poor tractor I wanted to find out if it got down safe
Looks like his notching was messed up from the get go. Might be different from a different angle but the lower cut on his face notch looks tipped to the back of the tree and his back cut came in at dead even to the lower cut. All that poor tree could do was go where it got sent and the tractor did his best to do its job.
lol@ Melissa " i know you're not i came to tell you you're not" lol..... over here in Harrisburg we have had strong wind for about 4 days straight now. some rain and some sleet and snow also... i'm ready for warm!
Me also! Round here (Apollo Pa.) that when summer gets here , then everyone I know will be complaining, " it's too hot!" Lol
I don't know if you go back to old video comments like this, but was that Bobcat a rental? I know you now have a Kabota... Which do you prefer?? Why one over the other?! Thanks!!!!!!!!!
If photo is legitimate,why wouldn’t someone share their experience and the conditions that led to the fail and not remain anonymous?Thanks for your take on it.
I think you are correct Mike that tree barber chaired on that person. Hopefully they are ok. I love your idea for using a chain or strap. That's why I love watching you definitely have some great ideas and techniques. God bless
Thomas Desmond chain, rope, strap or cable always much safer! Also if it is above your ability have someone else do it or leave it be!
@@coypatton3160 couldn't agree more .
Great video. I learned a few things. Thanks
workin with trees and brush one of the most dangerous jobs good work mike
The tree cut is wrong, that is what caused the barber chair.