I just applied the 5 year coating to a client's car for the 1st time. That was the easiest coating ive ever applied. At the end of a long day polishing. Having a simple and durable coating is key for me. I cant wait to try the c6 soon!
I just used APP on the DIY stack and it works perfect. I let it sit on the vehicle overnight, wheels, plastics and glass. The buff off was very easy and the paint was perfectly clean. I prefer this method way more than using a panel prep, I find the paint was cleaner and it gave me more confidence that it was ready for the coating.
Finally switching to full time with my own business , just got a huge DIY restock order, New DA and Rotary launched (pre ordering for next round) , C6 launches which is perfect for this area! I’m in Farm country surrounded by lakes! Wow, What a birthday gift! 🎁 Let’s do this!🎉
I honestly think that the C6 Professional Automotive coating should be offered to those that do not have a detailing business and simply require the customer to sign a waiver.
@@diydetailofficialbut Hydro Lite isn't as strong. If a beginner consumer can buy a polisher from you that can burn the paint off their car, why can't they buy your best coating? As long as they understand that high spots are a risk and that they are the only ones responsible for them, why not sell it to them?
Now I'm motivated with starting my mobile detailing business and becoming an installer under C6 Ceramics...Thank you Yvan, Nick, DIY Detail, and now C6...
Even if the new coatings are too expensive to justify in my business, I am really looking forward to the APP! My least favorite part of the coating process is the panel prep. It feels so redundant and tedious, I despise it really. If I can simply perform a light machine polish on the entire vehicle with the APP and go straight to coating that would be amazing. So at the very least I will be combining the APP with the DIY Detail coatings ASAP.
Tried ordering a variety of items that were out of stock. Signed up with email to be notified when available. This was 4 months ago and not one notification. I tried to give you guys a chance. Got a “small” $200 order but apparently I didn’t spend enough to get anyone’s attention. Good luck tho
Have order still pending since 3/19 for buffer pads (21207DT). This causes me to miss my project deadlines. Nothing posted on the website when ordering of any delays. Not impressed with ordering process.
Unfortunately pads are an issue because of our supplier. With our new warehouse we are tripling stock levels. Please contact our customer service team to assist you with this.
If using DIY Detail Gold Standard Polish, go straight to the C6 Ceramics APP. With other polishes a wipe off with DIY Detail All Clean or DIY Detail Panel Prep is desirable.
Do the C6 coatings require toppers? Also what’s the difference between APP and other primer polishes like Labocosmetica Fiero? It can also be coated over right away.
You said that the APP will actually swell the paint. Does that mean if you "remove" light defects with it, they could come back after the swelling goes back down?
Over my life I've become used to doing a yearly decon/correction/protection process. Am I correct in saying that if my car had a high solids ceramic coating on it that I would only do the decon part? You can't do paint correction on a coated car, correct?
Having watched a ton of your videos at this point, (and the c6 ones too), I have to say Nick is masterful in his approach to these videos at this point. He plays the layman and the PR guy at the same time in such a perfect way. Yvan is obviously the guy with his line of experience and relationships etc. but you guys together is such a good move. Having coached small businesses and executives for years I can see all of the dots connected and where you guys are going and it’s fascinating to watch. Thank you for all you guys are up to and I look forward to more.
Hey Yvan, I've heard that C6 Diamond Gloss is a tougher/more chemically resistant coating with better self cleaning attributes and Gloss (as the name suggests) than C6 Hydro and basically just loses a bit of hydrophobics and possibly a touch less slickness. Is there any truth to that? If it is true, for someone wanting to go all out and could an installer put a layer of Diamond Gloss on, wait 2-8 hours and put C6 Hydro or even C6 Hydro Lite on? Or does this just have diminishing returns installing 2 lifetime coatings? Also, since the metal coatings have a longer acting solvent/carrier to allow the coating to penetrate deeper into the metal, can one of the C6 coatings be stacked on it 4 to 12 hours later? I know you've told me in the past that you can do the metal coating and stack it with the DIY Detail 3 year after 4-12 hours to get a bit more performance and water spot resistance out of it. Since the refined detonated nano diamonds are superior in regards to fracturing (when combined with Silicon Nitrate) and waterspot resistance compared to graphene oxide, I'm just wondering if that is a viable option that someone could specify. Thank you!
C6 Ceramics Diamond Gloss is glossier, C6 Ceramics Hydro has better self cleaning properties, both have the same chemical resistance. Stacking them is a waste of time and product. Yes C6 Ceramics coatings can be used over DIY Detail metal coating.
Pan shared this link with me. I must have missed this somehow. Great information I wish this C6 lite came out 2 months ago when I applied a different diamond nano ceramic coating. Fomo, but I ve just gotta be happy with what I've got. Until it wears out....😊
I'm pretty sure you guys are using the Tool Shop 2.0-Amp Corded 5" Random Orbit Sander (Model Number: OSD117 Menards SKU: 2419943) - gotta love the red and black ;-> and the $20 price. I see it specs at 12,000 OPM. After comparing specs from BUNCHES of sanders, I am thinking of springing for the $60 Masterforce 3.2-Amp Corded 5"/6" Random Orbit Sander (Model Number: PES400GHU Menards SKU: 2410802). It has the variable speed setting that lets it go down to 4,000 OPM. I am thinking this might accomplish two goals - "lowest speed setting" and a bit of noise reduction. I really like using the red jeweling pad to add gloss, but I just don't have the experience to make it happen with a rotary. I think having the 3mm throw and lighter polisher instead of a 7 lb Milwaukee with a 15mm throw should give me the results I'm craving. As Yvan mentioned in the video, I would plan on using the 15mm Milwaukee with GSP on a yellow waffle, wipe off, then follow up with 3mm Masterforce with APP on the red jeweling pad as the prep for the ceramic coating of choice. I've only installed the "difficult" 5 year coating and absolutely LOVED the experience and results!
Yvan looking like a proper Canadian with the hat on in the intro 😅First of all I hope C6 rocks like DIY, it looks like it's very well thought through. Even though I totally followed what you said and I don't understand how a coating can be "less" resistant to chemicals so another one will be "more" resistant. Is it about what you talked about the bonding of the molecules of the coating and how they are still on the surface but not "connected"? Assuming that, would the 3year graphene coating (also assuming 100% proper prepping and application) be equally chemically resistant if you for example wash the car every week and spray quick beads? I do understand what I just described isn't the average car owner and that most people won't wash their cars weekly.
Excellent, I was wondering after polishing with gold standard and want to jewel would I just use the app with red jeweling pad or would I first use gold standard with red pad?
@@diydetailofficial so are you saying that any of the C6 Automotive coatings would be something like a 30 ml / 60 ml bottle for $600? Please elaborate for clarification
Graphene and diamond are both carbon, albeit with different, but similar, structures, but different physical properties. Can you explain the difference with this coating please?
With APP, will it cut enough to remove the 3 year coating after a year on a vehicle so the stack can be installed? Or should the gold standard be used to abrade the surface because of the strength of the coating?
I don't know if I missed this, but you say to apply APP with a Jeweling pad and palm sander/8mm DA, but is it applicable with a rotary? Is it the preferred method for application of it?
So if we still wanted to shine the paint would you still recommend doing gold standard with red pad on rotary then go to app or would we skip the jeweling stage because app is good enough?
With the app use jeweling pad and just a palm sander not more 8 mm And you are surprise how glossy you get … try it … we have some demo on c6 ceramics in you tube
What is the difference in diamonds with this coating vs. the new CarPro Diamond coating and/or the Diamond protech coatings. I think they both claim nano diamond make up as well so just wondering if there are similarities or completely different? Thanks!
NGNT uses diamond nano tubes, DQuartz uses Detonation Nano Diamond Powder . C6 Ceramics uses Refined Detonated Nano Diamond. C6 Ceramics also incorporates Polysilazane, SiN, SiC and Si02 through reactive blending. C6 Ceramics is also the only one made in the USA.
Can you polish this C6 coating off as easily as other coatings? Will the nano diamonds scratch? I’m thinking of this coating as a second clear coat and trying to wrap my head around it
Not at all. This business move should help ensure that DIY Detail grows stronger and can keep supporting DIYers. Branching out to service Industial, Marine, and professional detailers is going to be a smaller subset of their offerings. Like Yvan points out, the technology from higher end (higher priced due to more advanced technology) will trickle down. It was very strange to watch Yvan NOT head to a pad washer in the C6 coating video. Being able to "pivot" and being on the forefront of technology will keep DIY Detail healthy. Yvan's track record of 40 years of helping and coaching is evident and I don't think you could change that. I believe that is a big part of why Yvan and Nick and their team are developing a successful business. The genuine care for their products, fellow detailers, and noobs shows through.
Do you have to be a dealer to put on the 5-year ceramic coating really I just tried ordering it from your website and it says it can't deliver it to my address
Yall should create PDF sheets with steps and sequences and combonations, free would be great but a small download fee is fine too but for those who are getting serious about detailing.
I have Diamond Body 36 one my car. It is DIY coating and has it's own panel prep. I don't see why C6 can't be sold to anyone long as they commit to following the procedure. Disclaimer could be if not followed any warranty is void. Also use at your own risk.
When applying a c6 coating or other coating using the app on an already coated vehicle does the app work the same on a coating that has been abraded as it does in clear coat?
hello Yvan im just starting to get my name and work out there (side hustle for now)... whats it take to become a C6 installer i mean credentials ex: registered business, take your C6 ceramics course in mississauga (im canadian), what do i have to achieve to get in on your awesome products and start] applying them in my area???
@@diydetailofficial sounds fairly simple... i was wondering i stumbled upon ur classes in mississauga a lil late to pull it off is there any future classes on the horizon that i could possible capitalize on not to mention a chance to meet the man, the myth ...the mustache 🤣👍
@@diydetailofficial awesome look forward to it i guess that being said after taking that C6 class does that make me an installer ? If so i should have my business all legit befor hand right?
@@diydetailofficial okay so if we still wanted to shine the paint would you still recommend doing gold standard with red pad on rotary then go to app or would we skip the jeweling stage because app is good enough,
@@gseybold i don’t have a business and though I have been detailing for 40 years I can’t buy the product. It’s bull shit and they are kissing up to the business owner selling them the product. If it’s sooo technical as far as diamond and the other, that you put on just like any other ceramic do a disclaimer on the product. I can understand the spray industrial stuff…
@tony8354586 The reason why companies do that is so that weekend warriors or inexperienced detailers don't screw it up and blame the company. You're probably fine since you said you've been doing it for many years, but DIY isn't the only brand to do this. They stated the risk of highspots on their new coatings and due to that factor alone, I could see why they would only want professional detailers using it. I guess you could call it a preventative damage control
@@tony8354586you could say the same for all the pro grade coatings. I dont have access to many of them because i dont want to pay money to be accredited to use them. We've got all got access to DIY Detail coatings. They are more than sufficient for the vast majority of consumers.
I’m not saying your coating can or can’t last a “lifetime”, but translating that to customers does across as snake oil, which is tough. Also Nick saying haters doesn’t come across well as you’re trying to change minds. Call them skeptics when you’re introducing something new.
@diydetailofficial lol dang kids these days. I like the skeptics option...but certainly in today's world - it's all about satisfying the haters. Keep fighting guys you're doing great work. Can't wait to try the C6
I've never been a certified installer for any brand of ceramic coating so I do not know how that partnership works or what to expect. I would assume that professional only coating options cost the entrepreneurs LESS than the DIY end user marketed coatings as it only makes sense. I look forward to seeing how this plays out with C6 Ceramics. I already use the DIY Detail coatings to run my business. They're expensive. They're high quality. I've never enjoyed applying a coating as much as with the DIY Detail range. Although I haven't tried many of the most popular and highly respected coating brands out there. DIY Detail coatings cost more than double what most of the other top brands do. It makes sense because they're advertised to the DIY person. They are only buying one bottle for the next 3+ years. You have to capitalize on that with higher prices. If these new permanent coatings cost more than the DIY Detail 8 year does, I see them as being useless to the audience of entrepreneurs they're being marketed toward. I will be purchasing hundreds of these coatings and so the need to capitalize on me is much less than the one off DIY buyers. Think of it as a subscription based service. You spend much less at once, but more frequently creating a guaranteed income stream. I already choose to spend 100% more on product by opting for DIY Detail. I don't want to spend 150% more on product, I'm trying to run a business. Marketing a permanent coating to customers will be niche enough as it is considering most people do not own or lease a vehicle for more than a few years. The people who do are like most other people and aren't thinking 8-10 years down the road so the 3 or 5 year coating is what they choose anyway. If I then need to charge even more money to this already small niche of potential clients then that would render these illogical to even consider as a business owner. Once we start getting accepted as installers and we get pricing it will be interesting to see what I would need to charge clients to apply this coating and if it will ever generate a single sale. I remain optimistic as Yvan has never lead me astray, but I have concerns!
Sorry I've missed the live but still got questions and I know that you answered all of them, thank you for that... here we go... What's the major difference between C6 Diamond and C6 Hydro lite ? What's the major difference between C6 Hydro lite and the stack (8 + 3) ? Can Hydro lite be applied over a PPF ? Thanks in advance 😊 By the way, keep on growing we like what we see ❤🎉
Hydro lite sacrifices a little durability for ease of correcting high spots. The stack is a little step under Hydro lite. Yes they all can be applied to PPF
How does this hold up vs. the DIY STACK? You realize C6 is no longer a consumer Do It Yourself product, might be confusing if you don’t offer it to consumers.. Just sayin’
This is great, good explanation and I’m glad there is an emphasis on continuous improvement. Always reinvent true north. I bought the APP and can’t wait to try it out with the 5 year coating.
I apologize for my long comment/feedback in advance but I am very disappointed to hear this news, and just want to let you know what many others out there like myself are think about “pro only coatings”. Call it what you want but at the end of the day it’s just “gatekeeping” a ceramic coating to the average diy consumer. Unfortunately I have chosen with many others to stop supporting companies that do this business practice by not offering certain products to everyone. Find it ironic that your company name has “diy” in its name but sounds like you’re releasing a product that cannot be bought by a “diy” individual. Not trying to disrespect your business but I truly liked that you guys release your 3,5,8 year ceramics to everyone! It was such a breath of fresh air that a company releasing its entire ceramic coating line up to everyone/anyone. Iam tired of the detail business trying to be “exclusive” or “vetting” your business to see if you’re “worthy” or “good” enough to use certain products. As others have mentioned why can’t you make the average consumer just sign a waiver if they choose to purchase a “pro coating” and make them acknowledge the risk in using the product? Not everyone wants to buy a “lite” version of a product knowing that there is a better/longer lasting version. You mentioned palm sanders in your video, as far as iam aware of I don’t know a single palm sander that an average person can’t purchase. If you want get purchase a cheap $10 sander or spend $100s of dollars on “professional” version of palm sanders used in body shops or professionally. I wish you all the best in the new lineup but unfortunately will not be participating in the future.
Thank you for your concern. A large portion of our business at DIY Detail is professional detailers. Yes C6 Ceramics is a sister company to DIY Detail, but not the same company. The only cross over is Yvan, both companies have different staffs, and goals. Yes we will be offering C6 Ceramics Hydro Lite through DIY Detail for those who want C6 Ceramics . The difference is in the carrier solvents ( slower curing time) not the performance.
@@diydetailofficial so … let’s agree 👍🏼.. waxing your car every 6 months (with a good wax) will protect the paint , as long as you own the vehicle 🚗…. Hence we as detailers things have not changed 😀
I just applied the 5 year coating to a client's car for the 1st time. That was the easiest coating ive ever applied. At the end of a long day polishing. Having a simple and durable coating is key for me. I cant wait to try the c6 soon!
Thank you.
I just applied another coat to my car but bought the 5 year, I def will be applying it soon.
I just used APP on the DIY stack and it works perfect. I let it sit on the vehicle overnight, wheels, plastics and glass. The buff off was very easy and the paint was perfectly clean. I prefer this method way more than using a panel prep, I find the paint was cleaner and it gave me more confidence that it was ready for the coating.
That’s great
My 5 year coating has been nothing but a dream - CRAZY GLOSS - excited to see whats next with c6!
Thank you.
Since when ?
Finally switching to full time with my own business , just got a huge DIY restock order, New DA and Rotary launched (pre ordering for next round) , C6 launches which is perfect for this area! I’m in Farm country surrounded by lakes! Wow, What a birthday gift! 🎁
Let’s do this!🎉
Happy birthday!
I honestly think that the C6 Professional Automotive coating should be offered to those that do not have a detailing business and simply require the customer to sign a waiver.
Or at least be available for my personal vehicles
That’s why we have C6 Ceramics Hydro Lite coming soon
@@diydetailofficialbut Hydro Lite isn't as strong. If a beginner consumer can buy a polisher from you that can burn the paint off their car, why can't they buy your best coating? As long as they understand that high spots are a risk and that they are the only ones responsible for them, why not sell it to them?
Is there a Gloss Lite as well or just a Hydro Lite?
Hydro lite 🔥 🎉
Now I'm motivated with starting my mobile detailing business and becoming an installer under C6 Ceramics...Thank you Yvan, Nick, DIY Detail, and now C6...
Best of luck!
@@diydetailofficial thank you...
Exciting to see the progress on coating tech! Question - for the DIY 5 year coating, what's the temperature range for application?
50-120f
Even if the new coatings are too expensive to justify in my business, I am really looking forward to the APP! My least favorite part of the coating process is the panel prep. It feels so redundant and tedious, I despise it really. If I can simply perform a light machine polish on the entire vehicle with the APP and go straight to coating that would be amazing. So at the very least I will be combining the APP with the DIY Detail coatings ASAP.
The APP improves the coating experience.
Tried ordering a variety of items that were out of stock. Signed up with email to be notified when available. This was 4 months ago and not one notification. I tried to give you guys a chance. Got a “small” $200 order but apparently I didn’t spend enough to get anyone’s attention. Good luck tho
Please contact John@C6Ceramics.com
Have order still pending since 3/19 for buffer pads (21207DT). This causes me to miss my project deadlines. Nothing posted on the website when ordering of any delays. Not impressed with ordering process.
Unfortunately pads are an issue because of our supplier. With our new warehouse we are tripling stock levels. Please contact our customer service team to assist you with this.
There are other pads that you can use? Just a thought
Is C6 available to Mobile Detailers without a shop?
Yes
Will the app remove all oils etc from all different polish
Or will it be better to first use panel prep and then the app?
If using DIY Detail Gold Standard Polish, go straight to the C6 Ceramics APP. With other polishes a wipe off with DIY Detail All Clean or DIY Detail Panel Prep is desirable.
Thanks😊
Do the C6 coatings require toppers? Also what’s the difference between APP and other primer polishes like Labocosmetica Fiero? It can also be coated over right away.
No toppers needed. Very different technology.
Missed Wednesdays, I'm currently watching now. Can't wait!
Thank you.
You said that the APP will actually swell the paint. Does that mean if you "remove" light defects with it, they could come back after the swelling goes back down?
Yes, but the reason for swelling is to allow the coating to penetrate. Once the coating is applied , the swelling is locked in.
Over my life I've become used to doing a yearly decon/correction/protection process. Am I correct in saying that if my car had a high solids ceramic coating on it that I would only do the decon part? You can't do paint correction on a coated car, correct?
Correct
How long does the rest of coating in bottle last after it has been opened?
3 months
Got the 8 year on mine been amazing
Excellent choice.
If I need to cut Gold Standard, wipe with rinseless damp towel, APP and coat? Need to try that APP
Yes
when will the store get restocked? also any ideas in the future for reducing shipping cost?
Next week, and yes we are working on that
Having watched a ton of your videos at this point, (and the c6 ones too), I have to say Nick is masterful in his approach to these videos at this point. He plays the layman and the PR guy at the same time in such a perfect way. Yvan is obviously the guy with his line of experience and relationships etc. but you guys together is such a good move. Having coached small businesses and executives for years I can see all of the dots connected and where you guys are going and it’s fascinating to watch. Thank you for all you guys are up to and I look forward to more.
Thank you.
Nick is no newbie to making great videos too btw if you haven't seen him before DIY. 👍🏁
How long does the coating last? Can we apply it over an existing coating or do we need to strip it?
You will need to polish first. Durability is lifetime when properly maintained.
Hey Yvan, I've heard that C6 Diamond Gloss is a tougher/more chemically resistant coating with better self cleaning attributes and Gloss (as the name suggests) than C6 Hydro and basically just loses a bit of hydrophobics and possibly a touch less slickness. Is there any truth to that?
If it is true, for someone wanting to go all out and could an installer put a layer of Diamond Gloss on, wait 2-8 hours and put C6 Hydro or even C6 Hydro Lite on? Or does this just have diminishing returns installing 2 lifetime coatings?
Also, since the metal coatings have a longer acting solvent/carrier to allow the coating to penetrate deeper into the metal, can one of the C6 coatings be stacked on it 4 to 12 hours later? I know you've told me in the past that you can do the metal coating and stack it with the DIY Detail 3 year after 4-12 hours to get a bit more performance and water spot resistance out of it. Since the refined detonated nano diamonds are superior in regards to fracturing (when combined with Silicon Nitrate) and waterspot resistance compared to graphene oxide, I'm just wondering if that is a viable option that someone could specify. Thank you!
C6 Ceramics Diamond Gloss is glossier, C6 Ceramics Hydro has better self cleaning properties, both have the same chemical resistance.
Stacking them is a waste of time and product.
Yes C6 Ceramics coatings can be used over DIY Detail metal coating.
Pan shared this link with me. I must have missed this somehow. Great information I wish this C6 lite came out 2 months ago when I applied a different diamond nano ceramic coating. Fomo, but I ve just gotta be happy with what I've got. Until it wears out....😊
Thanks for sharing
I'm pretty sure you guys are using the Tool Shop 2.0-Amp Corded 5" Random Orbit Sander (Model Number: OSD117 Menards SKU: 2419943) - gotta love the red and black ;-> and the $20 price. I see it specs at 12,000 OPM. After comparing specs from BUNCHES of sanders, I am thinking of springing for the $60 Masterforce 3.2-Amp Corded 5"/6" Random Orbit Sander (Model Number: PES400GHU Menards SKU: 2410802). It has the variable speed setting that lets it go down to 4,000 OPM. I am thinking this might accomplish two goals - "lowest speed setting" and a bit of noise reduction.
I really like using the red jeweling pad to add gloss, but I just don't have the experience to make it happen with a rotary. I think having the 3mm throw and lighter polisher instead of a 7 lb Milwaukee with a 15mm throw should give me the results I'm craving. As Yvan mentioned in the video, I would plan on using the 15mm Milwaukee with GSP on a yellow waffle, wipe off, then follow up with 3mm Masterforce with APP on the red jeweling pad as the prep for the ceramic coating of choice. I've only installed the "difficult" 5 year coating and absolutely LOVED the experience and results!
That’s a great plan!
Think its a great Coating 👌👌
Hope international Shipping is soon availaible
Greetings from Austria
We will have a distributor in Austria Soon
@@diydetailofficial
perfect 🤝👍👍
@@diydetailofficialWhat about Finland?
Can you stack any of the C6 coatings with DIY Detail coatings for even better results?
No
@DIYDetail I see a few more videos in your future. Let's get this party started!
Yes, many more
Yvan looking like a proper Canadian with the hat on in the intro 😅First of all I hope C6 rocks like DIY, it looks like it's very well thought through. Even though I totally followed what you said and I don't understand how a coating can be "less" resistant to chemicals so another one will be "more" resistant. Is it about what you talked about the bonding of the molecules of the coating and how they are still on the surface but not "connected"? Assuming that, would the 3year graphene coating (also assuming 100% proper prepping and application) be equally chemically resistant if you for example wash the car every week and spray quick beads? I do understand what I just described isn't the average car owner and that most people won't wash their cars weekly.
With great weekly care like that any coating will last a lifetime
Excellent, I was wondering after polishing with gold standard and want to jewel would I just use the app with red jeweling pad or would I first use gold standard with red pad?
You can go straight to the app.
@@diydetailofficial awesome, I heard yvan say use up to an 8mm da does that mean don't use the app with red pad and rotary or is that okay?
Will Carzilla be a distributor soon for C6 ?
For the professional C6 Ceramics coatings it will be TOC Supplies. For C6 Ceramics consumer coatings, all DIY distributors will have access
How many ounces does the C6 coating ($600) container include? How many cars can be done with 1 $600 container?
That’s for the industrial coatings.
@@diydetailofficial so are you saying that any of the C6 Automotive coatings would be something like a 30 ml / 60 ml bottle for $600?
Please elaborate for clarification
The $600 coating is for industrial use.
Pricing is reserved for installers
Hey guys. Qyick question if I used the App product. What would I use to apply it by hand ?
A microfibre towel
Sounds good. Looking forward to seeing it used.
Thank you.
Graphene and diamond are both carbon, albeit with different, but similar, structures, but different physical properties. Can you explain the difference with this coating please?
Refined Detonated Nano Diamonds are superior in terms of fracturing resistance ( when combined with SiN), water spot resistance, and gloss/clarity.
At what point does it go from car washing and valeting to detailing?
They are all very interrelated and there is no definitive answer.
@@diydetailofficial I see, thanks
With APP, will it cut enough to remove the 3 year coating after a year on a vehicle so the stack can be installed? Or should the gold standard be used to abrade the surface because of the strength of the coating?
The Gold Standard Polishing System would be better
What speed would I use on my polisher if I am using the red pad on a 15 mm throw polisher?
2-3
Do I have to use the AP polish on a brand new car for Hydro Lite? Or can I just use panel prep and wipe?
Ideally, yes
I don't know if I missed this, but you say to apply APP with a Jeweling pad and palm sander/8mm DA, but is it applicable with a rotary? Is it the preferred method for application of it?
The short stroke DA is the preferred method. A rotary or long stroke DA overworks the APP making it difficult to remove.
Got it thanks 👍
So if we still wanted to shine the paint would you still recommend doing gold standard with red pad on rotary then go to app or would we skip the jeweling stage because app is good enough?
The APP is sufficient for jeweling
@@diydetailofficial so just jewel with the app and small throw da and not with rotary? I thought jeweling with rotary is shinier than with da?
With the app use jeweling pad and just a palm sander not more 8 mm
And you are surprise how glossy you get … try it … we have some demo on c6 ceramics in you tube
What is the difference in diamonds with this coating vs. the new CarPro Diamond coating and/or the Diamond protech coatings. I think they both claim nano diamond make up as well so just wondering if there are similarities or completely different? Thanks!
NGNT uses diamond nano tubes, DQuartz uses Detonation Nano Diamond Powder . C6 Ceramics uses Refined Detonated Nano Diamond.
C6 Ceramics also incorporates Polysilazane, SiN, SiC and Si02 through reactive blending. C6 Ceramics is also the only one made in the USA.
Thanks for the detailed response! Appreciate the info.
@@diydetailofficialpin this response
Can you polish this C6 coating off as easily as other coatings? Will the nano diamonds scratch? I’m thinking of this coating as a second clear coat and trying to wrap my head around it
It can be polished off, but not easily. Like any coating, yes it can be scratched.
Will there be a new line of maintenance products for C6, or will that be the DIY Detail products?
According to Wednesday’s announcement it will be diy products as maintenance
Mostly DIY Detail
I'm wondering if this is effectively the end for those of us that detail our own cars only.
Not at all.
Not at all. This business move should help ensure that DIY Detail grows stronger and can keep supporting DIYers. Branching out to service Industial, Marine, and professional detailers is going to be a smaller subset of their offerings. Like Yvan points out, the technology from higher end (higher priced due to more advanced technology) will trickle down. It was very strange to watch Yvan NOT head to a pad washer in the C6 coating video. Being able to "pivot" and being on the forefront of technology will keep DIY Detail healthy. Yvan's track record of 40 years of helping and coaching is evident and I don't think you could change that. I believe that is a big part of why Yvan and Nick and their team are developing a successful business. The genuine care for their products, fellow detailers, and noobs shows through.
@jasonwalter9359 and they manage the haters well also. ❤
I was just on your site and I don’t see a installer search? How do I find an installer?
Email john@c6ceramics.com
Is there a date the Hydro light will be available?
Early April
What’s the one hand orbital sander is your favorite from You said from Menards. Which one is it. Brand ? Thank you. ?
Tool Shop I believe is the company
Tool Shop 2.0-Amp Corded 5" Random Orbit Sander (Model Number: OSD117 Menards SKU: 2419943)
Do you have to be a dealer to put on the 5-year ceramic coating really I just tried ordering it from your website and it says it can't deliver it to my address
No , where are you located? Send an email to info@diydetail.com , we will be able to help
@@diydetailofficial I just sent you an email
Yall should create PDF sheets with steps and sequences and combonations, free would be great but a small download fee is fine too but for those who are getting serious about detailing.
There are many variables to consider. Our videos are explain from beginning to end the steps.
Where can I find a list of certified pro installers for C6?
E-mail John@c6ceramics.com
I have Diamond Body 36 one my car. It is DIY coating and has it's own panel prep. I don't see why C6 can't be sold to anyone long as they commit to following the procedure. Disclaimer could be if not followed any warranty is void. Also use at your own risk.
We will have C6 Ceramics Hydro Lite available to consumers
The adhesion promoter reminds me of old Zaino bros prep
Not quite
When applying a c6 coating or other coating using the app on an already coated vehicle does the app work the same on a coating that has been abraded as it does in clear coat?
Yes
I would guess that Hydro vs Diamond will sometimes depend on paint color ie…why Diamond a white car?
It’s the customers decision, what’s their priority, gloss or slickness.
hello Yvan im just starting to get my name and work out there (side hustle for now)... whats it take to become a C6 installer i mean credentials ex: registered business, take your C6 ceramics course in mississauga (im canadian), what do i have to achieve to get in on your awesome products and start] applying them in my area???
Légitime business, and a willingness to provide the best customer service experience possible.
@@diydetailofficial sounds fairly simple... i was wondering i stumbled upon ur classes in mississauga a lil late to pull it off is there any future classes on the horizon that i could possible capitalize on not to mention a chance to meet the man, the myth ...the mustache 🤣👍
Possibly in September
@@diydetailofficial awesome look forward to it i guess that being said after taking that C6 class does that make me an installer ? If so i should have my business all legit befor hand right?
Once your business is established, you will have access to C6 Ceramics
If you can use up to an 8mm da to apply app does that mean don't use the app with red pad and rotary or is that okay?
Red pad on a short stroke DA, the rotary over works the polish, making it more difficult to remove.
@@diydetailofficial okay so if we still wanted to shine the paint would you still recommend doing gold standard with red pad on rotary then go to app or would we skip the jeweling stage because app is good enough,
Only 14 hours to go!
DIY we meet again 🎉
Thank you.
How will the diamond c6 be able to purchase? C6 website I didn’t see it…regards, Tony
I asked the question on their stream from earlier this week. The coatings should be on the C6 Web site next week.
@@gseybold i don’t have a business and though I have been detailing for 40 years I can’t buy the product. It’s bull shit and they are kissing up to the business owner selling them the product. If it’s sooo technical as far as diamond and the other, that you put on just like any other ceramic do a disclaimer on the product. I can understand the spray industrial stuff…
@tony8354586 you can buy c6 lite. the others no! unless you have a business
@tony8354586 The reason why companies do that is so that weekend warriors or inexperienced detailers don't screw it up and blame the company. You're probably fine since you said you've been doing it for many years, but DIY isn't the only brand to do this. They stated the risk of highspots on their new coatings and due to that factor alone, I could see why they would only want professional detailers using it. I guess you could call it a preventative damage control
@@tony8354586you could say the same for all the pro grade coatings. I dont have access to many of them because i dont want to pay money to be accredited to use them. We've got all got access to DIY Detail coatings. They are more than sufficient for the vast majority of consumers.
I’m not saying your coating can or can’t last a “lifetime”, but translating that to customers does across as snake oil, which is tough. Also Nick saying haters doesn’t come across well as you’re trying to change minds. Call them skeptics when you’re introducing something new.
Agreed, Nick sometimes uses words that define his age
@diydetailofficial lol dang kids these days. I like the skeptics option...but certainly in today's world - it's all about satisfying the haters. Keep fighting guys you're doing great work. Can't wait to try the C6
Can you do a stack on de c6?
No need
Let's do this
Thank you.
Can anyone buy the APP, and does it work well with other coatings?
Yes, and yes
@@diydetailofficial wonderful!
diydetail.com/products/adhesion-promoter-polish
What Menards palm sander did you use?
Tool Shop I believe is the brand
I've never been a certified installer for any brand of ceramic coating so I do not know how that partnership works or what to expect. I would assume that professional only coating options cost the entrepreneurs LESS than the DIY end user marketed coatings as it only makes sense. I look forward to seeing how this plays out with C6 Ceramics. I already use the DIY Detail coatings to run my business. They're expensive. They're high quality. I've never enjoyed applying a coating as much as with the DIY Detail range. Although I haven't tried many of the most popular and highly respected coating brands out there. DIY Detail coatings cost more than double what most of the other top brands do. It makes sense because they're advertised to the DIY person. They are only buying one bottle for the next 3+ years. You have to capitalize on that with higher prices.
If these new permanent coatings cost more than the DIY Detail 8 year does, I see them as being useless to the audience of entrepreneurs they're being marketed toward. I will be purchasing hundreds of these coatings and so the need to capitalize on me is much less than the one off DIY buyers. Think of it as a subscription based service. You spend much less at once, but more frequently creating a guaranteed income stream. I already choose to spend 100% more on product by opting for DIY Detail. I don't want to spend 150% more on product, I'm trying to run a business. Marketing a permanent coating to customers will be niche enough as it is considering most people do not own or lease a vehicle for more than a few years. The people who do are like most other people and aren't thinking 8-10 years down the road so the 3 or 5 year coating is what they choose anyway. If I then need to charge even more money to this already small niche of potential clients then that would render these illogical to even consider as a business owner.
Once we start getting accepted as installers and we get pricing it will be interesting to see what I would need to charge clients to apply this coating and if it will ever generate a single sale. I remain optimistic as Yvan has never lead me astray, but I have concerns!
No need to be concerned. When you choose/sell coatings for their attributes, and not the years they last , it changes the dynamics.
Revolutionary
Thank you.
I want one of those hats, even when I cannot see the red color from the 6
Thank you.
Can’t wait DIY has been the best things to happen to the industry
Thank you.
Sorry I've missed the live but still got questions and I know that you answered all of them, thank you for that... here we go...
What's the major difference between C6 Diamond and C6 Hydro lite ? What's the major difference between C6 Hydro lite and the stack (8 + 3) ? Can Hydro lite be applied over a PPF ?
Thanks in advance 😊
By the way, keep on growing we like what we see ❤🎉
Hydro lite sacrifices a little durability for ease of correcting high spots.
The stack is a little step under Hydro lite. Yes they all can be applied to PPF
How does this hold up vs. the DIY STACK? You realize C6 is no longer a consumer Do It Yourself product, might be confusing if you don’t offer it to consumers.. Just sayin’
C6 Ceramics will have a consumer available coating. C6 Ceramics is another level above DIY Detail
I want that APP!
It will be available soon
This is great, good explanation and I’m glad there is an emphasis on continuous improvement. Always reinvent true north. I bought the APP and can’t wait to try it out with the 5 year coating.
Thank you.
Hey Yvan & Nick 😊
😃
Say detonated Nanodiamonds 10 times fast 🤣
New Tongue twister
Add Refined…
C6 stack when?
No stack
In time things will settle down. Clearly the products work otherwise it would be BOGOF just to clear the warehouse
Thank you.
I apologize for my long comment/feedback in advance but I am very disappointed to hear this news, and just want to let you know what many others out there like myself are think about “pro only coatings”.
Call it what you want but at the end of the day it’s just “gatekeeping” a ceramic coating to the average diy consumer. Unfortunately I have chosen with many others to stop supporting companies that do this business practice by not offering certain products to everyone.
Find it ironic that your company name has “diy” in its name but sounds like you’re releasing a product that cannot be bought by a “diy” individual.
Not trying to disrespect your business but I truly liked that you guys release your 3,5,8 year ceramics to everyone! It was such a breath of fresh air that a company releasing its entire ceramic coating line up to everyone/anyone. Iam tired of the detail business trying to be “exclusive” or “vetting” your business to see if you’re “worthy” or “good” enough to use certain products.
As others have mentioned why can’t you make the average consumer just sign a waiver if they choose to purchase a “pro coating” and make them acknowledge the risk in using the product? Not everyone wants to buy a “lite” version of a product knowing that there is a better/longer lasting version. You mentioned palm sanders in your video, as far as iam aware of I don’t know a single palm sander that an average person can’t purchase. If you want get purchase a cheap $10 sander or spend $100s of dollars on “professional” version of palm sanders used in body shops or professionally.
I wish you all the best in the new lineup but unfortunately will not be participating in the future.
Thank you for your concern. A large portion of our business at DIY Detail is professional detailers. Yes C6 Ceramics is a sister company to DIY Detail, but not the same company. The only cross over is Yvan, both companies have different staffs, and goals. Yes we will be offering C6 Ceramics Hydro Lite through DIY Detail for those who want C6 Ceramics . The difference is in the carrier solvents ( slower curing time) not the performance.
People whine and complain about pro only coatings. There are many out there. And many consumer available coatings. Wahhh 😅😅😅
Exactly, something for everyone
Life time coating ? Means there is no more car detailing 😂 …. Mmmmm ??? This utube channel is now dead 😂
Yeah, as permanent as paint. And yet paint wears…
A coating still needs to be cleaned and decontaminated.
@@diydetailofficial so … let’s agree 👍🏼.. waxing your car every 6 months (with a good wax) will protect the paint , as long as you own the vehicle 🚗…. Hence we as detailers things have not changed 😀
These dudes making money and ur hating why?