Tz 250 is NOT a toy. It’s a big shame they killed all the 2 stroke classes. Nowadays 2 strokes ( like power boat direct injection engines) are cleaner as 4t heavies. Bring back the f’n strokers now.
There is a real possibility that THEY will bring two strokes back. F-1 is allready experimenting on two stroke injectioned emgines for 2024-2025 year, if f-1 will moto gp will definately bring them back to.
TZ 250s can really haul ass and carry corner speed so much easier than all the heavier bikes. They are purpose-perfect road race machines. 30 years ago, about when Freddie Spencer got famous in F2 GP racing, it was really fantastic with close dicing, very high cornering speeds and great sounds! Same thing later with the Euro greats like the Doctor 46 - he rode and even looked better on the bike than everyone else, a real world beater on those F2 250s.
I'll never forget in 1988 after taking a test ride on a V-Max and telling my motorcycle mechanics teacher how bad it was..the way he laughed at me and told me "Boy you don't know what a motorcycle is until you've seen a TZ-250 in action". This being the first video I've ever seen of one in action I find myself wishing I still had contact though if he's still alive he probably has a playlist of them that play over and over to put himself to sleep with. Damn what a bike
Got to love a TZ250-sold my ‘92D back in 2007 and still regret it-watching this brought back happy memories of showing guys on 1000cc bikes what a proper 250 GP bike could do-especially on a tight track.......
TZ 250 track weight 250-270 pounds. Short wheelbase, out turn and out brake 450 pound plus GSXR. As we saw in the video it acceleration is on par with GSXR. To bad people have to race on street bikes instead of race bikes.
The sound is such an antidote for the weak and mild mannered, that the acoustics resonates fear! It makes you weak at the knees! So much power at the self destruction level! Word!
Beautiful motorcycle a real race bike,anyone who hasn't rode a two stroke grand prix bike won't understand the art of riding it,especially that long left hander it looks like high side city on a two stroke,big four strokes are easier to ride,I have a 70s tz so am appreciating the video.
to be fair the 2 strokes do make cornering easier. a LOT. I've got an RGV250 and whilst it is no TZ race bike it is SO much easier and more flickable than my 600RR and 1000RR. Especially side to side transitions and the speed you can flick it onto its side. Not to take anything away from the rider though. You still need balls to pass on the outside and brake so late past everybody else. The lack of weight definitely helps though.
Power to weight ratio and nimbleness - I remember my mates LC 350 when they first came out ; it was just mind blowing in its day, could eat pretty much anything in the right hands in the twisties.
I totally agree, there is nothing like tipping a TZ into a fast corner, no matter how hard I road my 99 I could feel the bike telling me "come on is that all you got-- you pu**y-- " A well set up TZ250 really proves Nikki's Haydens statement "The straights are for show and the corners for Dough"
Pure talent and a great choice for this very curvy track. Well done. As kenny roberts made clear, you don’t have to have the biggest displacement just the biggest balls.
Nicely sorted chassis and engine with power band from 8,000 to over 12,000. That’s pretty wide power band by TZ standards. The wider the power band the less they are likely to spit you off and send you into the shrubbery when they come on the pipe, IMHO. Nice!
Listened to the buzzing hornet, stinging those roaring lions around the circuit. But from the mids of the video it was boring to watch (but fun to listen to) as there were no "versus" around. In fact there were none from the beginning !! And yes, start was great.
Bonjour, on peut avoir l'année, perso 84, mise en kit 1985,haut moteur Humels et pistons wiseco,bras et supports regidifier, montage des jantes 18 pouces or 5 branches et freinage double disque flottant et sur l'arrière en brembo or, juste fourche origine avec ressort plus dur, franchement vous avez une très belle machine 💕💕🤩
Wow, I had no idea this on-board video of me had made it to UA-cam. The bike is a 1996 Yamaha TZ250 4TW. This video makes me want to get out and race it again! I wrote an article for Cycle World magazine about this TZ: www.cycleworld.com/v-twin-racers-ebr-1190rx-and-yamaha-tz250-comparison-review/
Well THAT explains a lot! Terrific ride, thanks very much for making the video, we need to do more of that to record and share these fantastic bikes. Beautiful!
There's actually 1 bike you didn't catch up to. At 0:44 you can see him in front of the bike you're about to overtake, but you never actually catch up to him. Still really impressive riding though. Absolutely love the 2-strokes!
I actually love two strokes, but it's right there in the video. You can't seem to accept the fact that there was 1 bike he didn't overtake. You really should look at the video again, maybe on a bigger screen. I also have never owned a gsxr and don't want to, your strange aquisations give you away. I have a vtr 1000, which you would be able to tell from my picture if you knew anything about bikes. I know for a fact this guy in the video on the tz250 would absolutely destroy me on the track, but the simple fact is, there is clearly still a bike ahead of him that he didn't get passed.
@@TheFighterbike I did look at the again. Repeatedly. I didn't bother looking at your profile because I simply didn't care enough too. I would also be willing to bet that you are quite young from your obvious inability to detect sarcasm and the further inability to see that you are, quite clearly, wrong.
Looked like an expert level club race but for the vintage class. How does it stack up against the current 600 and liter bike classes? Love the TZ and sounded like you have great tuning skills with the 2 stroke. Tune it wrong and you'll fly higher than American Airlines.
La TZ 250, on l'avait déjà essayée à Carole, alors faut pas déconner : C'est une deux temps et c'est le genre de truc que tu perds tes bras quand ça accélère ! :o) La TZ, c'est une tuerie !
Proper racing machine.....motogp boys have got it so easy on 4 strokes.....two strokes bit like a black widow...sometimes ya get a good ride other times she'll bite ya fucking head off
Honestly there actually worse! Only about 30 hp more and handle like a sack of bolts. If Yamaha had kept developing the 750,a massive difference, but that bike looked like a mid 90's TZ it would flog a 1970's TZ750.
@@jarnosaarinen4583 I dunno about that - the TZ750 was a monster. I saw a TZ750 drag racing the 1/4 mile in 1977. It had a tall road racing rear sprocket - completely wrong for dragging and the strip was slightly up hill. He still ran a 10.3 second time at over 140 mph.
@@Bobby-fj8mk yea I was ! Also very young. I only got it up to 170 MPH. 100 plus MPH wheelies! I let a few lucky Souls ride it, some declined , pussies. If I knew then what I know now , It would be in my living room.
I can just image how all those other guys must have felt sitting on their lawn mower engined pigs watching that gorgeous RACING motorcycle lap them all!!! Priceless! That’s what happens when you race street bikes against actual race bikes (like bringing a knife to a gun fight). “Hey, that isn’t fair!” It’s a travesty, a crime against all that is right and holy, that they have done away with the continued development and production of the two-stroke engine. No other design or configuration can match its power to weight potential, let alone the visceral excitement and emotive power of these machines....less rotating mass, less moving parts, less complicated....it’s horrible. Motocross was absolutely RUINED....now the sport has lost so much of the simplicity, accessibility and economic appeal it once had, not to mention the excitement from a spectator perspective. It’s turned into lawn mower racing.... and roadracing has suffered a similar fate, especially GP racing.... the skill to master a 500cc two stroke GP Bike....just to ride the bike, let alone go fast on one, was such a high level. They were so exciting to watch. Oh well.... they will al be electric soon anyway I guess, given our collective lack of backbone to check up this inane bullshit road politicians have taken us down. Very nice to see someone out there whipping some ass on a 20 year old bike.... just proves my point.
Jesus you didn't just win you passed the field in under a lap... I'd upload this to UA-cam too. And then put a tablet on my fridge doing nothing but looping this video
Disappointed with this vid, thought i was going to see a race/battle,, all I saw was a 250 kicking the utter shit of all the other bikes, where the fuck was the GSXR ??????
Tz 250 is NOT a toy. It’s a big shame they killed all the 2 stroke classes. Nowadays 2 strokes ( like power boat direct injection engines) are cleaner as 4t heavies. Bring back the f’n strokers now.
MaverickM1 Could not agree more, I raced Tz250g in the early eighties. Full on excitement both to participate and as a spectacle
Epa=leftie dick smokers made a money deal to end em
100%!👍
There is a real possibility that THEY will bring two strokes back. F-1 is allready experimenting on two stroke injectioned emgines for 2024-2025 year, if f-1 will moto gp will definately bring them back to.
@@Ignas2fly I pray for that...
TZ 250s can really haul ass and carry corner speed so much easier than all the heavier bikes. They are purpose-perfect road race machines. 30 years ago, about when Freddie Spencer got famous in F2 GP racing, it was really fantastic with close dicing, very high cornering speeds and great sounds! Same thing later with the Euro greats like the Doctor 46 - he rode and even looked better on the bike than everyone else, a real world beater on those F2 250s.
I'll never forget in 1988 after taking a test ride on a V-Max and telling my motorcycle mechanics teacher how bad it was..the way he laughed at me and told me "Boy you don't know what a motorcycle is until you've seen a TZ-250 in action". This being the first video I've ever seen of one in action I find myself wishing I still had contact though if he's still alive he probably has a playlist of them that play over and over to put himself to sleep with. Damn what a bike
capable machine in the hands of a seasoned rider.. Well done .
Got to love a TZ250-sold my ‘92D back in 2007 and still regret it-watching this brought back happy memories of showing guys on 1000cc bikes what a proper 250 GP bike could do-especially on a tight track.......
Just imagine what strokers would be capable of today if development of them had continued.
There is still a 2 stroke bike it was made about 2017. It was also used in the Isle of Man TT
@@_chp_ suter?
Ktm still putting work into the 2 stroke. They’ve come along way with them
there are quite some 2strokes from ktm husqvarna aprillia etc but unfortunately no superbikes anymore
You wouldn't be able to ride the thing simply not true enough to the world & your goony self.
On the czech Circuit Brno Lorenzo ' s 250 time was 2.01 in 2007 that 's the best Moto 2 time now with 765 ccm.!
Völlig fehlerfrei und immer hart am Limit & Gas,absolute Spitzenklasse der Typ,mein Respekt🙄👍
I recall the great Rich Oliver on this bike at LAGUNA Seca Raceway lapping the field up to second place rider again. An unbeatable champ !
TZ 250 track weight 250-270 pounds. Short wheelbase, out turn and out brake 450 pound plus GSXR.
As we saw in the video it acceleration is on par with GSXR. To bad people have to race on street bikes instead of race bikes.
I think you'll find a TZ is about 235 with a half tank. I wonder how light the fancy guys can make them??
Those wee TZs sure can honk on a tight circuit, and their corner speed is epic...That one is running very sweetly..... Brilliant!
All bikes eaten up by TZ250 for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Great Video, TZ250s is really the best racer of the time.
The funniest video I have seen for a long time ! He went by about 20 guys in the first 20 seconds. Great riding and a great bike.
Love Love Love the two strokes !!!!
The sound is such an antidote for the weak and mild mannered, that the acoustics resonates fear! It makes you weak at the knees! So much power at the self destruction level! Word!
Beautiful motorcycle a real race bike,anyone who hasn't rode a two stroke grand prix bike won't understand the art of riding it,especially that long left hander it looks like high side city on a two stroke,big four strokes are easier to ride,I have a 70s tz so am appreciating the video.
Listen to that Yamaha, it's beautiful, you will never beat a 2 stroke, only bike I ride. All hail the 2 stroke.
My kid ran some WERA nationals formula one races against 1000cc on a 1999 Honda rs 250 back in 2000- 2002 and always finished top 3.
I love watching better riders on 2T bikes cruise by the lazy 4T HP queens
to be fair the 2 strokes do make cornering easier. a LOT. I've got an RGV250 and whilst it is no TZ race bike it is SO much easier and more flickable than my 600RR and 1000RR. Especially side to side transitions and the speed you can flick it onto its side.
Not to take anything away from the rider though. You still need balls to pass on the outside and brake so late past everybody else. The lack of weight definitely helps though.
Next time install the camera on the back, I would love to see the other guys trying to catch you.
isn't there a guy that pull out way ahead?
at like 25-30 seconds you see a mysterious figure take off
AGREED
Power to weight ratio and nimbleness - I remember my mates LC 350 when they first came out ; it was just mind blowing in its day, could eat pretty much anything in the right hands in the twisties.
Man was racing those smokers a blast!
Way more so than 600 and 1000.🤘🏻
I totally agree, there is nothing like tipping a TZ into a fast corner, no matter how hard I road my 99 I could feel the bike telling me "come on is that all you got-- you pu**y-- " A well set up TZ250 really proves Nikki's Haydens statement "The straights are for show and the corners for Dough"
Pure talent and a great choice for this very curvy track. Well done. As kenny roberts made clear, you don’t have to have the biggest displacement just the biggest balls.
"As kenny roberts made clear, you don’t have to have the biggest displacement just the biggest balls"
... and the brains of a B-B.
fast on the straights and even faster through the bends ! a real racer.
Nicely sorted chassis and engine with power band from 8,000 to over 12,000. That’s pretty wide power band by TZ standards. The wider the power band the less they are likely to spit you off and send you into the shrubbery when they come on the pipe, IMHO. Nice!
I want a …..shrubbery!
This causes me deep, deep calm and joy! :D Top job!
In my place this two stroke is legend and known as yamaha tzm.
It's the sound I hear when I'm dreaming...
Watching these go around Bathurst in the late 70s was pure racing
Listened to the buzzing hornet, stinging those roaring lions around the circuit. But from the mids of the video it was boring to watch (but fun to listen to) as there were no "versus" around.
In fact there were none from the beginning !! And yes, start was great.
Yamaha make the best bikes in the world, period!
WHAT A START!!!
Had a 1KT for a while. I miss that sound so much, good times man!
I had a 79 RD 400 Daytona Special. I can't tell you how many 750's and 900's I had stand up and take notice while out hammering the country roads.
Bonjour, on peut avoir l'année, perso 84, mise en kit 1985,haut moteur Humels et pistons wiseco,bras et supports regidifier, montage des jantes 18 pouces or 5 branches et freinage double disque flottant et sur l'arrière en brembo or, juste fourche origine avec ressort plus dur, franchement vous avez une très belle machine 💕💕🤩
Wow, I had no idea this on-board video of me had made it to UA-cam.
The bike is a 1996 Yamaha TZ250 4TW.
This video makes me want to get out and race it again!
I wrote an article for Cycle World magazine about this TZ:
www.cycleworld.com/v-twin-racers-ebr-1190rx-and-yamaha-tz250-comparison-review/
Well THAT explains a lot! Terrific ride, thanks very much for making the video, we need to do more of that to record and share these fantastic bikes. Beautiful!
Pat,
You have that bike dialed in perfectly, and you ride it extremely well...
I would love to follow (or try to follow) you around the track someday.
There's actually 1 bike you didn't catch up to. At 0:44 you can see him in front of the bike you're about to overtake, but you never actually catch up to him. Still really impressive riding though. Absolutely love the 2-strokes!
You must be seeing things mate.
You must pay more attention. The quality of the video isn't great, but if you pay attention you can see it.
@@TheFighterbike more like you can't accept how fast a well ridden TZ250 actually is. Probably own a GSXR.
I actually love two strokes, but it's right there in the video. You can't seem to accept the fact that there was 1 bike he didn't overtake. You really should look at the video again, maybe on a bigger screen. I also have never owned a gsxr and don't want to, your strange aquisations give you away. I have a vtr 1000, which you would be able to tell from my picture if you knew anything about bikes. I know for a fact this guy in the video on the tz250 would absolutely destroy me on the track, but the simple fact is, there is clearly still a bike ahead of him that he didn't get passed.
@@TheFighterbike I did look at the again. Repeatedly.
I didn't bother looking at your profile because I simply didn't care enough too.
I would also be willing to bet that you are quite young from your obvious inability to detect sarcasm and the further inability to see that you are, quite clearly, wrong.
Absolutely flying! Love it ✊🏻💨
Miss the Formula USA Racing!! Race what you brung+the bikes they made to go against the YZR 500!! 😊
That’s How you juice every gear! This guy is good! I spank my Aprilia every weekend! 165mph front wheel in the air
The power of love n 2-stroke!
What a weapon of a bike, skilled in keeping it on the boil. After they banned 2 strokes from GP, I lost interest, this is awesome.
As a mechanic in the 70's, I rebuilt my friends TZ250. After riding it, I realized it would whoop my 1979 KZ1000 MK II 🏍
Wtf?! Made the other stuff look like mopeds ridden by pensioners!!
Looked like an expert level club race but for the vintage class. How does it stack up against the current 600 and liter bike classes? Love the TZ and sounded like you have great tuning skills with the 2 stroke. Tune it wrong and you'll fly higher than American Airlines.
Some Moto 2 lap records are slower than the old 250 class!
La TZ 250, on l'avait déjà essayée à Carole, alors faut pas déconner : C'est une deux temps et c'est le genre de truc que tu perds tes bras quand ça accélère ! :o)
La TZ, c'est une tuerie !
Proper racing machine.....motogp boys have got it so easy on 4 strokes.....two strokes bit like a black widow...sometimes ya get a good ride other times she'll bite ya fucking head off
Супер!!! Красавец!👍👌👏
So bitchen! That race was over before it even started! Killer riding
She's running nice and cool too
What a great Job mate!
That was exhilarating. Well done
What a machine, well done
Thats one well set up TZ 🤘🤘
A very well ridden 250.
3:46
OKAAY
I never loved 4 strokes. Miss my Honda RS 250R😭
Yeah buddy 👍
menacing
the bike had no more to give.
Two strokes are racing! Bikes should not have car engines
That was Awesome 😎😎😎
All those litre twist and goes left behind. Heavier isn't always better.
Its a thoroughbred racer vs motorcycles that can be used to do errants and shopping , what did you expect ?😂
Was this acually a race? Looks like the other guys were doing a practice lap against this bike? No one around to race after the first lap.
Beautiful!
I have that typ of ingine in quad tz 250 twin cylinder it is scary 112 0ctane gas ⛽
A real race bike!
my dream car! When will I get it?
250 GP bikes are a good investment right now.
Perfect
And it didn't get hot enough to make a cup of coffee the whole time.
There's another rider that left him in the dust.
humm good breakfast 25 bikes in 2 mins
What a Rocket
Looks like a tight course! Two strokes rule!
Two Stroke Power!!!
rider and 2 stroke power!
やっぱり 生粋のレーサーのTZ250の方が 市販バイク1000ccより速い。当たり前。
How much hp that bike pushing?
Pure class
Totalement fabuleuse rhaaaaaaa la vache 👌🤪🤪🤪
What year? had a couple of 1998 vintage, suspect this is a lot newer.....like the s section....
Grant Beerling it’s a 1996 TZ250 4TW
Well done!
Imagine getting pwned by a chainsaw on two wheels after you boast that your 1000cc destroys anything with smaller displacement.
How many miles were this guy ahead of everyone 🤣
Wow - imagine a TZ750.
Honestly there actually worse! Only about 30 hp more and handle like a sack of bolts. If Yamaha had kept developing the 750,a massive difference, but that bike looked like a mid 90's TZ it would flog a 1970's TZ750.
@@jarnosaarinen4583 I dunno about that - the TZ750 was a monster.
I saw a TZ750 drag racing the 1/4 mile in 1977.
It had a tall road racing rear sprocket - completely wrong for dragging
and the strip was slightly up hill.
He still ran a 10.3 second time at over 140 mph.
I had a TZ750 with a California license , street legal, kind of. Run like hell to start. Daytona gearing .Fun Fun.
@@jerknamesmith5903 You lucky devil.
@@Bobby-fj8mk yea I was ! Also very young. I only got it up to 170 MPH. 100 plus MPH wheelies! I let a few lucky Souls ride it, some declined , pussies. If I knew then what I know now , It would be in my living room.
EPIC, 👏👍🏻
I can just image how all those other guys must have felt sitting on their lawn mower engined pigs watching that gorgeous RACING motorcycle lap them all!!! Priceless! That’s what happens when you race street bikes against actual race bikes (like bringing a knife to a gun fight). “Hey, that isn’t fair!” It’s a travesty, a crime against all that is right and holy, that they have done away with the continued development and production of the two-stroke engine. No other design or configuration can match its power to weight potential, let alone the visceral excitement and emotive power of these machines....less rotating mass, less moving parts, less complicated....it’s horrible. Motocross was absolutely RUINED....now the sport has lost so much of the simplicity, accessibility and economic appeal it once had, not to mention the excitement from a spectator perspective. It’s turned into lawn mower racing.... and roadracing has suffered a similar fate, especially GP racing.... the skill to master a 500cc two stroke GP Bike....just to ride the bike, let alone go fast on one, was such a high level. They were so exciting to watch. Oh well.... they will al be electric soon anyway I guess, given our collective lack of backbone to check up this inane bullshit road politicians have taken us down. Very nice to see someone out there whipping some ass on a 20 year old bike.... just proves my point.
Uhhh ok.i bet u didn't realize that guy way out Infront that left your tz rider in the dust lool
Just Lean meh....
I think that was a light weight twins/two stroke combine class race Ie ex500/sv600/ktm etc
The only reason you won is you were faster. Were the other riders aware you were racing? I love little Davids whooping Goliath's ass. Well done.
"The only reason you won is you were faster." thats the winner of every race ever XD
Ahh... a proper race bike.
Imagine a 500
Weapon
100 hp for 100 kg. Of course it smokes them...
Very bad Day for 4stroke pilote😅
Brutalized the entire competition. Absolutely no mercy, I love it
God I hate the sound of 2T though, sorry not sorry
Jesus you didn't just win you passed the field in under a lap...
I'd upload this to UA-cam too. And then put a tablet on my fridge doing nothing but looping this video
9 dislikes by liter class ricers!
Disappointed with this vid, thought i was going to see a race/battle,, all I saw was a 250 kicking the utter shit of all the other bikes, where the fuck was the GSXR ??????
sucking in the TZ premix
Barracuda vs. loose whales...
...and a great ride. I consider both biker and rider "GP racers".