Can you solve the fantasy election riddle? - Dennis E. Shasha

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    After much debate, the realm has decided dragon jousting may not be the best way to choose its leaders, and has begun transitioning to democracy. Your company was hired to survey the citizens of the land and predict which candidate will win. There’s a lot riding on this: if you get it wrong, heads- well, your head- will quite literally roll. Can you predict the winner? Dennis Shasha shows how.
    Lesson by Dennis E. Shasha, directed by Igor Coric, Artrake Studio.
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  • @TEDEd
    @TEDEd  3 роки тому +536

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    • @EntergeticalakaBot
      @EntergeticalakaBot 3 роки тому +3

      First! Hello, TED-Ed!

    • @bellamydog7640
      @bellamydog7640 3 роки тому +1

      Second! Hi Ted Ed! I love your videos! Especially riddle videos! Also, can you do a video on why people like certain pets more than others. Ex: Dogs>Cats>Fish

    • @devathma
      @devathma 3 роки тому +2

      Hate you ted.

    • @parthadeb5604
      @parthadeb5604 3 роки тому +2

      Hey what about for second one we do account Head for none and tail for either one the polls might give a bit close result not sure please justify

    • @abhishah7139
      @abhishah7139 3 роки тому +2

      Hey, this one doesn't make sense.
      If you're asking everyone to flip a coin, and always say "Troll" if it lands head, you're effectively not counting them at all because you don't even know if they support troll or tree.
      Say out of 100, 55 actually support trolls and 45 actually support tree.
      Now 50% of the population on random will get heads (always trolls). Let's suppose all who got heads actually preferred troll. You're result would still be 55 troll and 45 tree. Now you'll remove 50 trolls as 50% were forced troll. Your final result is 5 troll and 45 tree, a huge win for tree.
      But in reality, troll is still the majority. You're getting skewed results because you nullified 50% of voters. That's bad.
      This one doesn't make sense to me.

  • @SonicLoverDS
    @SonicLoverDS 3 роки тому +9385

    "Okay, so I want you to flip this coin twice. If you get two heads, say you support the troll. If you get--" (door slams)

  • @bethjacobx
    @bethjacobx 3 роки тому +5083

    first i have to give away my life savings to a lying wizard, and now i have to walk around a whole kingdom and poll every house? this fantasy world seems like a lot of trouble...

    • @youarentyouwhenurhungry2379
      @youarentyouwhenurhungry2379 3 роки тому +175

      *this eyebrow better pay me a lot...*

    • @TheFerretofEarth
      @TheFerretofEarth 3 роки тому +83

      @@youarentyouwhenurhungry2379 if this eyebrow doesn't, imma splash water on it

    • @user-hq4zk6eg5n
      @user-hq4zk6eg5n 3 роки тому +20

      @@TheFerretofEarth bruh

    • @janicedsilva16
      @janicedsilva16 3 роки тому +10

      @@TheFerretofEarth I mean that’s not a bad idea.

    • @user-qi6pv9jh7o
      @user-qi6pv9jh7o Рік тому +1

      @@TheFerretofEarth "spit on it and sit on it"
      Err, it's not about salary-holding eyebrows?

  • @63emiliya
    @63emiliya 3 роки тому +5732

    The correct answer is to
    A: Ask the citizens to write down their choice anonymously
    B: Come home
    C: Count the results
    D. Tell the eyebrow your results
    E. Flee the country
    F. Start your job somewhere else

    • @bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257
      @bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257 3 роки тому +143

      Yeah, why didn't he just do that?

    • @fluffy695
      @fluffy695 3 роки тому +59

      @Meow Cat ok, so why can’t do it? An anonymous poll?

    • @fluffy695
      @fluffy695 3 роки тому +105

      @Meow Cat why they lie if it’s anonymous

    • @63emiliya
      @63emiliya 3 роки тому +96

      @Meow Cat Wouldn't they lie in the poll presented by Ted as well? They could just as easily lie there too or change their minds afterwords

    • @fluffy695
      @fluffy695 3 роки тому +60

      @Meow Cat do you even know what anonymous means

  • @arandompersonontheinternet5557
    @arandompersonontheinternet5557 3 роки тому +3875

    Ted Ed : The Tree won!
    Me, who saw that the video still has 3 minutes of runtime : *Something’s wrong, I can feel it*

    • @rubinthepig1218
      @rubinthepig1218 3 роки тому +176

      *I S E N S E A D I S T U R B A N C E I N T H E F O R C E*

    • @collectorofmyst2107
      @collectorofmyst2107 2 роки тому +50

      I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I can smell it in the air.

    • @JoseLuisRodriguez-vd8uj
      @JoseLuisRodriguez-vd8uj 2 роки тому +15

      Is just a feeling I got
      "6minutes" "6minutes"

    • @itsjovo1874
      @itsjovo1874 2 роки тому +9

      @@JoseLuisRodriguez-vd8uj like somethings about to happen 👀

    • @strawbunny-girl2709
      @strawbunny-girl2709 2 роки тому +2

      I felt it to

  • @daichi1069
    @daichi1069 3 роки тому +4050

    The riddle is brilliant and all but are we not gonna talk about the disembodied all-powerful eyebrow?

    • @drenz1523
      @drenz1523 3 роки тому +77

      Without eyes, he will be useless then

    • @amogh6534
      @amogh6534 3 роки тому +76

      Gollum, Mordor Polling Agency and Sauron

    • @kevinlane1219
      @kevinlane1219 3 роки тому +16

      I would have used a fireball for this riddle, instead.

    • @kyanleong8014
      @kyanleong8014 3 роки тому +8

      it’s brilliant cos it’s sponsored by it

    • @user-fd4qf1yu1f
      @user-fd4qf1yu1f 3 роки тому +16

      Orange troll= Trump
      'Experienced' tree= Biden
      Dragon= kamala
      *it's called PREDICTIVE PROGRAMMING everyone!*
      and once martial law is declared, he'll once again rule above this great country!
      btw, happy 200 years since the Greek independence to all!!!
      LONG LIVE the *UNITED STATES*
      LONG LIVE *HELLAS!*
      and may GOD BLESS US ALL!!!

  • @TristanSamuel
    @TristanSamuel 3 роки тому +3810

    This poor guy is subject to theft by a conman, oversleeping, and multiple *literal* death threats, just give him a break!!

    • @alex_zetsu
      @alex_zetsu 3 роки тому +41

      Wait, oversleeping and death threats I remember, who was the conman? Did you mean the wizard forced to tell lies?

    • @TristanSamuel
      @TristanSamuel 3 роки тому +36

      @@alex_zetsu Yes, he told lies and got money

    • @TheFerretofEarth
      @TheFerretofEarth 3 роки тому +15

      Poor little dude

    • @brnchiggins
      @brnchiggins 3 роки тому +26

      This polling company must have some awesome worker's benefit package given their employees don't just quit.

    • @invurret9533
      @invurret9533 3 роки тому +2

      next time put the riddle against the troll in power.

  • @PrashantKumar-nz6ih
    @PrashantKumar-nz6ih 3 роки тому +481

    Plot twist: The dragon was actually hired by the troll to kill the tree and he knew that majority will vote for him in the next election as he's a better candidate than the dragon. The dragon didn't want to win, he was just helping his friend.

    • @pustota7254
      @pustota7254 Рік тому +5

      true

    • @eisgnom7383
      @eisgnom7383 Рік тому +31

      That's not a plot twist that's pretty close to actual campaign strategies

    • @eomoran
      @eomoran 9 місяців тому +7

      The spoiler effect is a thing. One example of this is in Australia where the Liberal party often doesn’t run candidates in Green or Labour areas to have them battle it out, making it easier for Liberals to get seats elsewhere. Sometimes one oft the two major parties will even find a way to financially support third parties as well

    • @asheep7797
      @asheep7797 3 місяці тому

      @@eisgnom7383putin

  • @golazomedia531
    @golazomedia531 3 роки тому +261

    Just give those voters a little piece of paper and a pen, write down their favourite candidate secretly so that they don't feel ashamed, roll and put it into a box. Open the box at your home, count and translate it into a data. Repeat the polling process 5 times so the data can be closely accurate. Thank God your neck could easily be saved.

    • @Inkyminkyzizwoz
      @Inkyminkyzizwoz 3 роки тому +10

      That's what the actual election will do, so what's the point?

    • @golazomedia531
      @golazomedia531 3 роки тому +24

      @@Inkyminkyzizwoz point is the solution in this video is not so practical.

    • @benurm2390
      @benurm2390 3 роки тому +15

      @@Inkyminkyzizwoz The actual election will do it with everyone, not just a few people. Also there's a concern that people wouldn't take the poll seriously since it doesn't elect anyone, but I don't see how that is a problem.

    • @xiangli9588
      @xiangli9588 7 місяців тому +3

      Wouldn't work because they aren't able to tell that you are 100% honest. You could count the number of votes in the box, take their vote, and recount it and know who they voted for. This added layer of protection doesn't add any layers of protection, so your solution may as well be you take their vote and say it's anonymous.

  • @vighneshchavan9226
    @vighneshchavan9226 3 роки тому +2992

    *"an giant orange troll & an experienced tree"*
    "I have seen that one before"

  • @Snommelp
    @Snommelp 3 роки тому +1834

    I mean, I know it's a riddle and not an actual polling strategy, but I feel like the real pragmatic solution would be to simply say "all respondents are 100% anonymous and there is no way to trace your answer back to you"

    • @MissLilyputt
      @MissLilyputt 3 роки тому +115

      Makes much more sense than using coins, hoping that you don’t get the door slammed in your face and having to make presumptions about how many times they got heads. What makes them even think that they will flip the coin to begin with?

    • @isabelhuang_1
      @isabelhuang_1 3 роки тому +90

      They use this method in real scientific studies where the subject has to interact with an experimenter, or for topics that are especially controversial, to give subjects another layer of protection

    • @superlukey3
      @superlukey3 3 роки тому +78

      @@isabelhuang_1 We actually used this in my Compilers course too. A week before a project was due, the instructor told everyone to make their computer generate a random boolean, tell the truth if it was a 1, and answer "Yes" to whatever the next question was if it was a 0. The question was, "Have you not yet started the project?" and he said that it's great because if you really haven't started the project you can just say to your friends "My computer made me say it!" if you are embarrassed, and it's more accurate than asking the question outright in his experience (even if we all covered our eyes).

    • @someoneunknown8778
      @someoneunknown8778 3 роки тому +33

      What would your response be to: "Prove it."/"I don't believe you."/"You expect me to believe that, despite me telling my vote to your face, you do not know what I voted?"?
      Remember, you don't just need to convince them their vote cannot be identified by 3rd parties, you also need to convince them *you* cannot identify it.

    • @Lala47362
      @Lala47362 3 роки тому +11

      ppl would still be embarrassed about having to say it directly to someone though

  • @TheOriginalEwan
    @TheOriginalEwan 3 роки тому +138

    Therapist: “Eyebrow of Sauron isn’t real, it can’t hurt you.”
    Eyebrow of Sauron:

  • @jessicacat1206
    @jessicacat1206 Рік тому +43

    There is so much imagination involved in this riddle! Like, the all-powerful EYEBROW? I'm loving this!

  • @LuminixsGameGallery
    @LuminixsGameGallery 3 роки тому +1292

    “Can you solve this riddle” YOU KNOW DAMN WELL I CANT.

  • @angelrobles7201
    @angelrobles7201 3 роки тому +894

    For what I've read, no one is asking the real question here:
    How did a snake (an armless, legless being) manage to win a jousting competition?
    Also, who is it representing? The elven? The treefolk? The goblins?

    • @milklimousine4348
      @milklimousine4348 3 роки тому +32

      Maybe there was a snake related coo

    • @malachibest463
      @malachibest463 3 роки тому +12

      The tree represents the treefock troll for the goblins and dragons for the elves

    • @Anastas1786
      @Anastas1786 3 роки тому +20

      Not having limbs is no impediment to a dragon jouster when he speaks a language partially-intelligible with the Dragon Tongue.

    • @angelrobles7201
      @angelrobles7201 3 роки тому +24

      @@Anastas1786 True...
      But how did it manage to carry the lance, yet sit properly in the back of the dragon?
      I've started thinking it paid all of its money to that swindling, always-lying magician...

    • @a.w.4708
      @a.w.4708 2 роки тому +1

      He represented Barack Obama if I understand it correctly (he can also be an alter ego of troll) cause it is all just not so subtle metaphore.

  • @benatconde5742
    @benatconde5742 3 роки тому +52

    Ok, the joke of "One sssilver dollar" made me laugh more than I thought

  • @MrNotSpecified01
    @MrNotSpecified01 2 роки тому +40

    I think the key condition that should have been mentioned is that polled people will be 100% honest on the result of their coin flip. Otherwise, everyone could have lied about flipping the coin and stated their real preference, and if you remove 50% of troll votes based on the assumption that they were all honest about the coin, you'd be very wrong.

  • @mrjoestar2862
    @mrjoestar2862 3 роки тому +832

    The answer is simple, just tell the voters that at least one of them has green eyes.

    • @jackywong9504
      @jackywong9504 3 роки тому +51

      Wrong. Tell them that they will free your brother.

    • @RozArialind
      @RozArialind 2 роки тому +3

      it just works

    • @linusovery-smith4246
      @linusovery-smith4246 2 роки тому +36

      @@jackywong9504 what if they say ozo though?

    • @pixelartkid7965
      @pixelartkid7965 2 роки тому +35

      @@linusovery-smith4246 run over the bridge with the lab assistant.

    • @jasonwalter7133
      @jasonwalter7133 2 роки тому +5

      I'm just picturing Dwight reading off the beginning of riddles and this comment thread as Ryan's interrupting responses.
      Dwight: A pirate...
      Ryan: Give a coin to pirates 3 and 5 and keep the rest for yourself.
      Dwight: DAMNIT!!

  • @reaperz5677
    @reaperz5677 3 роки тому +1100

    "An orange Troll and an experienced tree"
    This is an American politics metaphor, isn't it?

    • @4444Ferris
      @4444Ferris 3 роки тому +31

      I dont know...
      if the results of the election make the people to scape to Narnia
      and the troll mandates a wall in betwin the fantaasy forest and the enchanted jungle...
      or maybe that would be to much on the nouse

    • @zonzaykay
      @zonzaykay 3 роки тому +60

      And the dragon is blue and murdered people to get there... The tree is bernie perhaps? Maybe I'm just reading too much into it

    • @alex2005z
      @alex2005z 3 роки тому +8

      Is the dragon spoilers?

    • @DanksterPaws
      @DanksterPaws 3 роки тому +18

      @@zonzaykay are you suggesting an assasination of Biden. I mean him falling up the stairs kinda looked like it, was just missing gunshot noises

    • @ntlespino
      @ntlespino 2 роки тому +4

      Could be British but with that member of Parliament in between

  • @Cyberlisk
    @Cyberlisk 2 роки тому +40

    For the second part, I think it would be more intuitive for the people (as they already answered your first poll) to flip the coin, and on tails tell you the truth, on heads a randomized answer, determined by a second coinflip.

    • @Serennekin
      @Serennekin 2 роки тому +2

      The problem is though is that you don’t know which answers are the randomized answers and which answers are the real answers. So you wouldn’t be able to narrow down anything.
      Say you decide to delete 50% of the answers to account for the randomized ones. You could very much be deleting the flips that told them to tell the truth, but you wouldn’t know it.
      You need a way to be fully certain that you can remove answers that are statistically likely to be wrong, while being able to keep majority of the truthful responses.

    • @Adventurer32
      @Adventurer32 Рік тому +7

      @@Serennekin But you do know which answers...
      you know that 50% of the time they'll get heads, meaning its a random answer. 50% of those answers will be for each candidate. Then just remove 25% from each parties total percentage of the vote to get the real ratio. Exact same as in the video.

    • @karlcole5617
      @karlcole5617 10 місяців тому

      that ends up having the exact same probability for everything

    • @karlcole5617
      @karlcole5617 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Serennekin doesn't matter, has same ratios

  • @ElitePraetorian421
    @ElitePraetorian421 3 роки тому +20

    "A giant orange troll and an experienced tree statesman"... I see what you did there lol

  • @steviegoodgravy8624
    @steviegoodgravy8624 3 роки тому +418

    “Giant orange troll”.. subtle

    • @user-vn7ce5ig1z
      @user-vn7ce5ig1z 3 роки тому +25

      What? It's just his natural skin, definitely not a bad tan. 🤷

    • @mbici6969
      @mbici6969 3 роки тому +21

      It's probably sun burn from his wall-building shenanigans

    • @funveeable
      @funveeable 3 роки тому +6

      Trolls don't build walls. They aren't intelligent enough so they tend to be hired as guards.

    • @lisahenry20
      @lisahenry20 2 роки тому +1

      @@user-vn7ce5ig1z well someone edited a picture of trump to make see what he'd look like without the tan-I mean natural skin and I don't know whether it's just because we're used to how he looks, but the picture looked worse.

    • @oberlin27
      @oberlin27 2 роки тому +1

      It doesn't even need to be. Anybody supporting an orange troll isn't watching anything mildly educational on here XD

  • @ideally07
    @ideally07 3 роки тому +166

    I really like how there's actual lore to these riddles

    • @JESUSISLORD.........
      @JESUSISLORD......... 8 місяців тому

      But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.
      1 Samuel 16:7, now how do we distinguish these people? Matthew 7:19‭-‬20 Jesus says Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
      God bless.😊😊😊😊

  • @BiblioBaker
    @BiblioBaker 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Ted Ed! I’ve been watching for like 7 years now and I think your so educational. I love showing my kids your videos!

  • @brianne4215
    @brianne4215 3 роки тому

    i love these! i love the little series thats integrated into the riddle series! always impressed by the quality of your videos Ted-Ed

  • @blueeye2281
    @blueeye2281 3 роки тому +142

    That poor little tree fellow was allowed to walk for the first time and that flying lizard literally sent him to gulag.

    • @janicedsilva16
      @janicedsilva16 3 роки тому +3

      Tragic, amiright?

    • @CrayRT
      @CrayRT 3 роки тому +1

      Wait... are you the all powerful eyebrow?

    • @blueeye2281
      @blueeye2281 3 роки тому +5

      @@CrayRT No I'm the throne of the all-powerful eyebrow. the all-powerful eye.

    • @steampunkastronaut7081
      @steampunkastronaut7081 2 роки тому +2

      @@blueeye2281 Great respose. An eye is just the throne for the eyebrow.

  • @1.4142
    @1.4142 3 роки тому +384

    One coin to rule them all, one coin to find them. One coin to flip them all, and in the darkness bind them.

    • @Pax.YouTube
      @Pax.YouTube 3 роки тому +29

      We shall return the coin where it was forged.

    • @aditimuthkhod1252
      @aditimuthkhod1252 3 роки тому +14

      In the land of Dormor where the troll-supporters lie!

    • @Jubypuff
      @Jubypuff 3 роки тому +5

      Where that vote deciding coin was used

    • @janicedsilva16
      @janicedsilva16 3 роки тому +4

      On it your life depended

    • @AnotherOneOfThoseUsernames7693
      @AnotherOneOfThoseUsernames7693 3 роки тому +6

      Three for the Tree-folk under their leaves
      Seven for the goblins in their halls green

  • @WlngDlngBat
    @WlngDlngBat 3 роки тому +10

    To expand on the quote from the very beginning, since it’s one of my favorites of all time: “I mean, if I went 'round, saying I was an emperor, just because some moistened bink had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!”

    • @finnlewis6207
      @finnlewis6207 3 роки тому +1

      Strange women lying in ponds distributin swords is no basis for a system of government!

  • @The2Cat7Guy
    @The2Cat7Guy 3 роки тому +3

    I love these riddles! They are so fun!

  • @nisargvaghela7311
    @nisargvaghela7311 3 роки тому +77

    "An orange troll and an experienced tree"
    Where have I seen that before...

    • @TechTactics4253
      @TechTactics4253 3 роки тому +2

      Where?

    • @derpylemon852
      @derpylemon852 3 роки тому +12

      d o n a l d t r u m p

    • @nisargvaghela7311
      @nisargvaghela7311 3 роки тому +1

      @Simple Weirdo Joe Biden IS NOT MY PRESIDENT

    • @kazekori9593
      @kazekori9593 3 роки тому +17

      @@nisargvaghela7311 Same i dont live in america

    • @honestiguana
      @honestiguana 3 роки тому +2

      How does TED takes a lesson from someone who sees Biden as an experienced statesman? LOL

  • @vaishnavaramjass
    @vaishnavaramjass 3 роки тому +331

    Ted: Can you solve this riddle?
    Me: Ik I can’t but I still wanna see the answer

    • @johndoberman4970
      @johndoberman4970 3 роки тому +9

      That's the wrong mindset dude, spend some time trying to solve all of them. I used to be really bad at it too but would at least spend a few minutes thinking about it before seeing the answer, now I can solve almost all of them.

    • @elijahronbelt3407
      @elijahronbelt3407 2 роки тому

      @@johndoberman4970 thank you for the motivation

  • @mohamedsamroud7678
    @mohamedsamroud7678 3 роки тому +35

    Ted riddles be like :
    If Tom had 8 apples and Jack had an umbrella, What is the distance between Jupiter and Andromeda? 😭

  • @boo7260
    @boo7260 2 роки тому +3

    i just came up with telling the people to decide who’s heads and who’s tails and whichever it lands on is what they say. i think that’ll give them the opportunity to say who they actually support while they think you think it’s just what they flipped

  • @blueeye2281
    @blueeye2281 3 роки тому +108

    Ah finally found my soul partner, the all powerful eyebrow.

    • @elbowsbuns1896
      @elbowsbuns1896 3 роки тому +2

      Match made in heaven ♥️ can I come to your wedding?

    • @blueeye2281
      @blueeye2281 3 роки тому +3

      @@elbowsbuns1896 yes absolutely! Date will be published as the blue brain wishes. But it is certain that it will be held on the blue face.

  • @mice2188
    @mice2188 3 роки тому +293

    So many Lord of the Rings references in this video. I love it.

    • @x-Abraham-x2
      @x-Abraham-x2 3 роки тому +2

      Ikr!

    • @a.w.4708
      @a.w.4708 2 роки тому +1

      It would be better if there would be only LOTR one...

    • @cipher3966
      @cipher3966 2 роки тому +5

      Everyone gets the Harry Potter ones but never the Lord of the Rings

  • @andre_garay
    @andre_garay 3 роки тому +8

    Easy! You just have to tell everyone “At least one candidate has green eyes” , then you have to wait until the election.

  • @littleluketheninja6712
    @littleluketheninja6712 2 роки тому +7

    1:30
    Some random guy: What have you got in your pocket
    The: Polling agency: A coin?
    Some random guy: Good *Points gun* now give it to me

  • @nessabrewer2237
    @nessabrewer2237 3 роки тому +663

    🔥A L L P O W E R F U L E Y E B R O W🔥

  • @deanodama.5111
    @deanodama.5111 3 роки тому +58

    Finally a riddle again! I love you, Ted ❤ you really make me handle this pandemic since so long

  • @reddbool1ng192
    @reddbool1ng192 2 роки тому

    "You know the answer, but do you understand it to remember it again?" I love the riddles they have here i watched it awhile back and still dont know or remember the answer, its a great to go back n enjoy the video again

  • @thomaslaganda1840
    @thomaslaganda1840 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this type of riddle, much more interesting!

  • @heizousbabygirl4972
    @heizousbabygirl4972 3 роки тому +14

    I love the continuity in these

  • @firedropcutie
    @firedropcutie 3 роки тому +16

    Finally, a sequel to a riddle! I hope the green eyes riddle gets a sequel next

    • @ShiaTheBunnyGirl
      @ShiaTheBunnyGirl 2 роки тому +3

      Can you free the dictator from the 100 green eyes?

  • @TheDressIsntGold
    @TheDressIsntGold 3 роки тому +1

    I love this riddle! Probably my new favorite

  • @lololyoo5091
    @lololyoo5091 3 роки тому +6

    1:36 one SSSilver
    Haha, get it? Cuz it’s a snake

  • @grantzolldan
    @grantzolldan 3 роки тому +90

    So this relies on perfect probability from the coin flips AND that everyone tells the truth about their coin flip. Seems preeeetty flimsy, especially if it was a close race.

    • @randomname285
      @randomname285 3 роки тому +26

      It says in the conditions that everyone will tell the truth (its a logic problem not a pragmatic one), and if you repeat it enough times the law of large numbers dictates you'll be able to get the error from a perfect probability split small enough to predict the results with the required accuracy, especially if there is 10 points between the candidates as seen here

    • @vishvpower9330
      @vishvpower9330 3 роки тому +1

      In pragmatic world you would ask them to go in the house and assign each side an candidate and ask them to vote for it and tell you the same.This will give them deniability bcs coin decided and thus they will tell thier true preference(if they really want us to live)

    • @grantzolldan
      @grantzolldan 3 роки тому +1

      @@randomname285 Yeah you're right for the most part. I probably wouldnt have commented if they hadn't used a few hundred people as an example.

    • @smk77097
      @smk77097 3 роки тому +1

      But we're using the coins. Which means you don't know how many of the people actually support the troll/dragon because they're coin could have flipped to tails or heads.
      And the vid said everybody wants to help you.
      So I don't see why this wouldn't work.

    • @felixjangross
      @felixjangross 3 роки тому

      I wonder if it would be better to use the standard deviation to estimate a range instead of just the mean, and then use that range to determine a dominance of one of the candidates. That would at least eliminate the perfect coin flip probability.

  • @hopeadjei5293
    @hopeadjei5293 3 роки тому +1

    i’ve been wating so long for another riddle. i never get them right but there fun to watch 😃

  • @Spirit451
    @Spirit451 2 роки тому

    Brutal! Absolutely brutal! In one ear and out the other.

  • @khushiSingh-zw8rz
    @khushiSingh-zw8rz 3 роки тому +8

    Loved the LOTR references... All powerful eyebrow and incredibly gollum-like stranger going "what have you got in your pocket?) ;)

  • @Imirui
    @Imirui 3 роки тому +5

    “all powerful eyebrow”
    great character 50/50 100/100 would watch again

  • @aggrave790
    @aggrave790 3 роки тому +5

    Can't wait for the next installment in the TCU (Ted-Ed Cinematic Universe)

  • @Rawiral
    @Rawiral 3 роки тому

    UA-cam recommended this to me, i dont want to watch your videos anymore but it keeps recommending to me and i cant stop clicking the videos...

  • @carsondubs
    @carsondubs 3 роки тому +16

    This is like 2016. Orc is Trump, Bernie is the Tree and Hillary is the Dragon that "legally" kills the Tree for the canidate spot

  • @Luffy_wastaken
    @Luffy_wastaken 3 роки тому +15

    0:28 Wow! You made a accurate prediction of how I look!!!

  • @Irfan-kx8mj
    @Irfan-kx8mj 3 роки тому +1

    I love ted ed riddles please make more

  • @wjzav1971
    @wjzav1971 Рік тому +6

    Can we get a third part to this fantasy world? I honestly want to see where this goes.

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc 3 роки тому +73

    Your job isn’t to beat the dragon, your job is just to outrun the orange troll.

  • @jessikamccowan
    @jessikamccowan 3 роки тому +9

    The coin definitely helps with how you can accurately get an idea of what possible outcomes are available, at least mathematically. Getting to understand human emotions towards politics is a different beast entirely and always too complex. Love this illustration on both sides

  • @kolobanovmedal
    @kolobanovmedal 3 роки тому

    Finally season 2 of all those riddles.

  • @Pati-bk8xr
    @Pati-bk8xr 2 роки тому

    I for once knew this one because they actually use this method in conservation when surveying things like bush hunting in rural communities.

  • @eddycabreja3332
    @eddycabreja3332 3 роки тому +46

    Man, now I really want a continuation for the Ragnarok riddle, or the penniless pilgrim riddle, or the sorting hat riddle.

    • @mathguy37
      @mathguy37 Рік тому

      Or the popular one

    • @darealmrman2266
      @darealmrman2266 6 місяців тому

      the trojan war is actually he prequel tp the ragnarok riddle iirc

  • @lillianruan9801
    @lillianruan9801 3 роки тому +39

    Short answer: No.
    Long Answer: Still no.

  • @kedamono42069
    @kedamono42069 3 роки тому

    I love riddles with a part sequel

  • @QHu-kx1tr
    @QHu-kx1tr 2 роки тому

    This is a very wonderful idea

  • @cialibb
    @cialibb 3 роки тому +11

    i remember learning about the first half of this riddle in my statistics class in hs! it's a common technique, except participants will mark whether they got heads or tails on a sheet out of sight instead of leaving the percentages to chance

    • @maxastro
      @maxastro 2 роки тому

      If you poll a large enough number of people, you don't need to know who flipped what - the results will be indistinguishable from an even 50/50.

    • @RGC_animation
      @RGC_animation 2 роки тому

      That's why you flip the coin yourself.

    • @RGC_animation
      @RGC_animation 2 роки тому +1

      @@maxastroPretty sure it isn't, or else every single video on UA-cam would basically have the same amount of likes and dislikes (also rip dislikes).

    • @maxastro
      @maxastro 2 роки тому

      @@RGC_animation It's not random chance whether someone likes or dislikes a video, though.

    • @RGC_animation
      @RGC_animation 2 роки тому

      @@maxastro Oh you mean coin flipping, ok then.

  • @MarlowPreston
    @MarlowPreston 3 роки тому +13

    So the Orange Troll is obvious, but is the Tree Bernie, and the Dragon Hillary?

    • @benjaminford8173
      @benjaminford8173 3 роки тому +3

      The dragon would be Biden IMO

    • @lilorange3647
      @lilorange3647 3 роки тому +2

      Something tells me that the dragon is Harris, takes over right after biden wins and is super unpopular immediately after... hope this comment ages well ;)

    • @maltt8715
      @maltt8715 3 роки тому +2

      well the dragon and hillary have one thing in common
      they both murdered someone

  • @aarsh0608
    @aarsh0608 2 роки тому +1

    Very life changing, mudiji

  • @mrchoco4605
    @mrchoco4605 3 роки тому +59

    Giant orange troll: Trump
    Experienced tree statesman: Biden
    Nice one, Ted.

    • @lauren9536
      @lauren9536 3 роки тому +4

      you need to stop watching politics, you're gonna make some ppl angry

    • @a.w.4708
      @a.w.4708 2 роки тому +3

      @@lauren9536 yet he is right... This Riddle is REALLY suggestive in this term.

    • @abledkey
      @abledkey 2 роки тому +5

      I think it was supposed to be Trump as the Troll, Bernie as the tree, and Hillary as the dragon 😂

    • @casshernsins8333
      @casshernsins8333 Рік тому

      @@abledkey exactly. As Bernie would’ve won the dnc candidacy but the dnc shorted Bernie and gave it to hilary

  • @ingewidya4724
    @ingewidya4724 3 роки тому +18

    I never clicked faster than a ted ed video notification pop up about a riddle that i definitely can’t finish 😂

  • @dailydoseofmedicinee
    @dailydoseofmedicinee 3 роки тому +12

    One of the brain benefits of puzzles is that they increase the production of dopamine, a neurotransmitter that regulates mood, memory, and concentration. Dopamine is released with every success as we solve the puzzle.👍

    • @unholycrusader69
      @unholycrusader69 3 роки тому +1

      Mmmmmmm h a p p y b r a i n j u i c e

    • @georgeuferov1497
      @georgeuferov1497 3 роки тому

      > with every success
      Well, no dopamine for us on this channel

  • @Ankit1903
    @Ankit1903 3 роки тому +1

    Brilliant! King Rattle and sssilver coin 😂
    Apart from the puzzle itself, I love the attention to detail

  • @sushilrai1929
    @sushilrai1929 3 роки тому

    I liked the markings on the coin......
    "One Sssilver dollar"...awesome attention to a smlaa detail...

  • @alien-x0815
    @alien-x0815 3 роки тому +7

    3:14 uhhh what a constitution

  • @l3wismoreman9227
    @l3wismoreman9227 3 роки тому +4

    Set in the same world where we had that riddle in that jostling tournament

  • @rainbowsomeone
    @rainbowsomeone 3 роки тому

    The first ted ed riddles in a v long time I’ve been able to solve 😁

  • @sourtm5916
    @sourtm5916 2 роки тому

    this is the only riddle where i actually figured out what you would have to do.

  • @amrica5298
    @amrica5298 3 роки тому +4

    For the second, I’d have them flip 1 coin. If heads, they give their real answer. If tails, they flip again to give a predetermined answer. Same statistics, 1/4 fewer flips on average, easier for respondents to remember without 2x2 chart.
    This single coin flip model (not the one I proposed above) is how they poll disgraceful questions about spousal abuse and other crimes.

  • @rextanglr4056
    @rextanglr4056 3 роки тому +20

    It's not everyday when TED-Ed makes a sequel riddle.
    Also, plot twist: a wizard resurrects the treefellow and found out who killed them. What now?

    • @lauren9536
      @lauren9536 3 роки тому +4

      the dragon dies because murder is not pog

    • @rubinthepig1218
      @rubinthepig1218 3 роки тому +2

      They vote for dragon and they eject him

  • @vincenturquhart1370
    @vincenturquhart1370 3 роки тому +3

    They are finally doing double riddles where you don't have to go to brilliant to see the answer to the second one

  • @galaxykitten6849
    @galaxykitten6849 2 роки тому +1

    “All powerful eyebrow” youtubers have gone to new lengths to escape copyright lol this is gold

  • @bogdangiusca5057
    @bogdangiusca5057 3 роки тому +14

    For the second riddell.(p.s did not watch)
    If you had everyone flip the coin twice
    If its two heads they say the dragon
    If its two tails they say the troll
    If its a combination they tell you there opinion.
    50% of the votes are acuret. We subtract 25% from each candidate.
    Edit: can't believe i got ut right.

    • @danielsahlberg4576
      @danielsahlberg4576 3 роки тому +2

      Did you come up with this after watching the first riddle? I did...

    • @bogdangiusca5057
      @bogdangiusca5057 3 роки тому +1

      @@danielsahlberg4576 yes i did

  • @suhaneegupta814
    @suhaneegupta814 3 роки тому +16

    My answer for the second riddle: Just tell them to say Troll for heads and Dragon for tails. But each time, say this sentence, "You know, this system is flawed. U flip the coin and I don't know if u got heads or tails. So u could say Troll and I'd never know if u actually like him or it's the coin" As much as I know people, most will tell their true preference. Ted Ed, the riddle was statistic, but otherwise, what do u think of this?

    • @nilsjonsson4446
      @nilsjonsson4446 3 роки тому +3

      - This assumes that dragon and troll supporters are equally likely to lie about the dice roll.
      - If the poll is meant to be 100 % random (they're supposed to tell the coin result), it's not really meant to predict voter support, they'd have little incentive to lie.
      - Baselessly assuming that the supporters are equally likely to lie, you'd still have no idea about the result more than what side has the majority. 51 % said troll, does that imply that most lied and the election will be very close, or that very few lied and the troll will win almost every vote?

    • @furyanakashi1159
      @furyanakashi1159 3 роки тому +1

      I have another answer: you tell them to lie for Tails, then you just have to give 50% of the votes for the dragon to the troll, and vice versa.

    • @nilsjonsson4446
      @nilsjonsson4446 3 роки тому

      @@furyanakashi1159 Doesn't work. With 50 % lies you will always have a 50/50 result since every person is 50 % likely to answer troll (true or false) and 50 % likely to answer dragon. E.g. 100 % want dragon, you get a 50/50 result (since 50 % lie), and redistribute half of both sides, to 50/50 again.
      If you make them flip twice and lie 25 % of times, you can calculate the actual result, but it's a much more complicated formula than the video's suggestion.

    • @furyanakashi1159
      @furyanakashi1159 3 роки тому

      @@nilsjonsson4446 Yes you're right my bad ^^

    • @suhaneegupta814
      @suhaneegupta814 3 роки тому

      Guys ur getting statistic. Think psychologically.

  • @dbrlshdqks1240
    @dbrlshdqks1240 Рік тому

    wow! this is so fun!

  • @bbbhegli7997
    @bbbhegli7997 3 роки тому

    More riddles!

  • @reymundalagos9889
    @reymundalagos9889 3 роки тому +3

    Two riddles in one video? Thanks!

  • @Yevgen4000
    @Yevgen4000 2 роки тому +4

    0:19 this says a lot about society

  • @anatine_banana_69
    @anatine_banana_69 3 роки тому +16

    This has a Monty Python reference in the title card yet TED-ed failed to include one in the last video, The Spanish Inquisition

    • @z.m.6053
      @z.m.6053 3 роки тому +4

      Pretty unexpected, eh?

  • @manya6879
    @manya6879 3 роки тому +22

    Stranger: What have you got in your pocket?
    Apparently you: * pulls out silver coin *
    Also stranger: Mmmmm, shiny 🤩

  • @arnavaggarwal5497
    @arnavaggarwal5497 3 роки тому +2

    In the second part, 25% of total votes are due to coins being HH or TT, thus we subtract equal number of votes from both sides (25% of total).
    If our opinion poll is x>y initially , then after subtracting equal number from both sides, it will still be x > y, thus making this extra step redundant.
    We can directly say that 105 votes for troll beat 95 votes for dragon.

  • @spencerthegarfieldfanboy
    @spencerthegarfieldfanboy 3 роки тому +1

    0:25 why is this so funny to me
    “All powerful *EYEBROW* “

  • @vex3488
    @vex3488 3 роки тому +4

    How could you subtract all the head results as you don’t know if they would have supported either candidate? There is the possibility that all the head flips supported the troll or tree fully, leading to a great margin of error.

    • @alam5055
      @alam5055 3 роки тому

      Well, of course it could happen that most of the tree or troll supporters get heads, but with such a large number of asked people it's very unprobable. Looking at this probability-wise, a troll supporter and a tree supporter have the same probability of getting the heads, so the number of troll and tree supporters that get the heads will be similar as number of troll and tree supporters that get the tails - not necesarilly the same, but there shouldn't be any drastic differences. And the margin of error is acceptable as you don't have to be 100% accurate with your predictions. So that's why we can substract all head results

  • @KnakuanaRka
    @KnakuanaRka 3 роки тому +5

    I came up with a different solution to the second part: everyone flips the coin twice. If they get two heads, they lie, otherwise they tell the truth. This makes 1/4 of both groups lie, so you could make a system of equations to determine exactly how many people actually support each side§, but the side with the majority of votes should say the same.
    § If T and D are the number of people who vote for each candidate, and T’ and D’ are the number who actually prefer each candidate:
    T = .75T’ + .25D’
    D = .75D’ + .25T’
    3T = .75D’ + 2.25T’ (multiplying the first equation)
    -(D = .75D’ + .25T’)
    3T-D = 2T’
    T’ = 1.5T -.5D
    And the equation for D’ is analogous.
    So to determine the number of people who actually prefer a candidate, multiple the number of votes for them by 1.5, and subtract half the number of people who didn’t vote for them.

    • @jakistam1000
      @jakistam1000 2 роки тому

      That's a better solution, because larger fraction of population will present their accurate beliefs, leading to more accurate poll.
      Of course, you could have them flip the coin even more times. If, for example, everyone would flip the coin 5 times, and lie on 5 heads, then 31/32 of the polled would say their actual preference.
      You shouldn't overdo it, though. If you asked everyone to flip the coin 20 times, and lie on all heads, the odds of them lying is 1 in a million. That's not really plausible deniability.

    • @KnakuanaRka
      @KnakuanaRka 2 роки тому

      @@jakistam1000 Well, given what you said about plausible deniability, that does make the video's suggestion better than mine.
      With the video's solution, 25% of the total population is made to lie in favor of each side, so even if everyone who voted genuinely was in favor of one side, they'd still have good deniability (eg, if it was 25% forced troll, 25% forced dragon, and 50% true dragon, there's still only a 2/3 chance that someone who voted dragon said so genuinely), and in a more even vote, both sides have about a 50% chance.
      With my option, however, 25% of both sides lie, so in an even race, any one person's vote has about a 75% chance of being sincere, making it less deniable. If the vote is less even, the minority gets more deniability, but only a little, and the majority's deniability gets even worse; getting to even the worst-case 67% of the other method for the minority requires an imbalance of at least a 40-60 split, while the best-case 50% requires a 25-75 split.

  • @sarcasticlemon4116
    @sarcasticlemon4116 3 роки тому

    I love this series the best

  • @cjfdnqkn4374
    @cjfdnqkn4374 3 роки тому

    Brilliant riddle!

  • @zhocolatte
    @zhocolatte 3 роки тому +45

    an eyebrow? I- ok I'm just gonna be happy its a riddle-

  • @drenz1523
    @drenz1523 3 роки тому +5

    Only OG's remember the small lil' guy from the dragon jousting riddle
    He is back

  • @elbowsbuns1896
    @elbowsbuns1896 3 роки тому

    Sooo are some other riddles also going to get sequels? Because that would be pretty cool 👉👈

  • @zandrewmorano4747
    @zandrewmorano4747 2 роки тому

    This is the first 2-in-1 riddle video of Ted-Ed ever

  • @MilindaPereraGoogle
    @MilindaPereraGoogle 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you TED-Ed for this great explanation of the idea behind what's formally known as Differential Privacy. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_privacy.

  • @star_friend
    @star_friend 3 роки тому +3

    The one real candidate it's a fire eye at the peak of mountain.