Holden VQ Caprice: The Forgotten Luxury King of the '90s!
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2024
- *Holden VQ Caprice: Early '90s Luxury Meets V8 Power!*
Step back in time with this classic cruiser that defined comfort and style in the '90s.
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Had a VQ 2 Caprice. Great car. Now got a VF 2 Caprice. Also great car
I just registered my VQ Caprice 2 months ago after 9 years in the garage , Rare to see them out in the wild.
Love the VQ
Pure heaven👌 cheese for the upload mate
5:22 That window design was taken from the Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme. It’s more evident when looking at a VS statesman rear end, the taillights & window design are near -identical.
The VQ design pre-dated the olds, but the olds was used for the VR LWB tail lights and Opera window. The sweep of the VQ is closer to other contemporaries from other makes in the 80s who did similar sweeps, especially on 2 door cars.
Very true. And the grille on the VQ looks a lot like the one on the Buick LeSabre.
@ VQ Statesman grille design was directly copied from the 87/88 Opel Senator - the same car the VN styling came from, as well as its Vauxhall Carlton sibling. The Caprice used the same “waterfall” grille design the WB Caprice had 10 years prior, and this carried through to WH.
Almost bought one of these a few weeks back, it was in great nick.
Love the old phone that only makes calls.
Id like to see that. I do t think the CDMA network has been around for a while…
Note that all the woodgrain on vq, vr, and vs series 1 was all real solid wood. Unlike german cars of the time with their fake plastic wood. I remember seeing so many of these cars in the wreckers pre covid. You could pick up perfect original v8 ones for less than 2k sometimes.
Many of the cheap ones were only bought to donate the driveline to a project car. Sad end to such a nice cruiser.
@@commodorenut Yes very sad. Luckily I saved a few very clean ones. I still have a VS series 1 Caprice, and a VS series 2 Statesman. Both V8's. As you said awesome cruisers.
As far as the 5L, it was the only choice in VQ1 - a carryover from the WB days, which were only 4-5 years prior. A top line luxury car couldn’t be seen to be struggling to move all that weight. But 2 things changed - the V6 had enough grunt, and the marketing people saw a niche for it, so in VQ2 the V6 became an option.
Ford had the opposite problem. They only had a 6 for the NA Fairlane and DA LTD. It wasn’t until the NC/DC that they got a V8 again, and matched the VQ2 for choice.
That woodgrain was ahead of its time. Yeah, carphone and all that. But how about that woodgrain!
I love vq's, unfortunately too many deros use the motors for inferior cars thinking they are better. Same as every Fairlane with a 351 too.
What's great is the ve-vf is the same length in the wheelbase as the vq/vg to the vs lwb.
sv90 is the king vq
The back seat in these is the best of all the 2nd Gen Aussie Commodores. The steering wheel horn pad was a very clever design trick by Holden designers - disguising a regular basic VN wheel, but looking very American luxury like Cadillac.
If i could turn back time i would buy one.
Paid 1000 dollars for my vq. Stato 10 years ago of the side of the road when nobody wonted them on the road now still runs good with395000 kd
80s as that's when it was designed. Based on the VN.
find a V8 VK calais always wanted one!!
I think they're cooler than an SS. Longer, bit better looking too. People think they're big and slow, well I can tell you the SS isn't much better in that department but costs 3 times as much
SS's are over rated. They had identical engines, transmissions, and diffs to these
@CommodoreMan Forgotten luxo king? You sir are incorrect.
There are 2 cars luxo kings you forgot about.
HSV built a stato.
And So did Mick webb's SVO
Yup they made business jets. Fast business jets. For sir who had the scratch
@@goosegarage78 SV90, SV93 and various enhanced packs. Then the VR HSV LWB model, which by VS2 became the Grange. I still think the SV90, 93 and VS2/3 Grange are some of HSV’s nicest work.
@@commodorenut but your touting the VQ stato as luxo barge king. when it was the poverty pete of executive lounges...
you still havent seen the SVO NCII luxo fairlane barge. because they only made 20 of them.
how many statemans? a lot more than 20
So what was the king Luxo barge in 1990? It easy to criticise looking back in the rear view mirror.
@@goosegarage78I never claimed anything to be the luxury king, and I don’t know why you chose to name a VQ statesman when it’s common knowledge the Caprice is the top line.
But anyway, I’ll bite, because you’re comparing apples to oranges.
You’ve named the NC2, but that was still years away when the VQ was released. Wind the clock back to March 1990 to compare apples to apples. Ford offered a 3.9L Fairlane with itchy seat fabric that wasn’t much better than a GL, and the 3.9L LTD with acres of plush velour. They’d only had a 4 speed auto for 5 months. When released, the VQ standard V8 Caprice was miles ahead of Ford’s offerings.
And when HSV released the SV90, what did Ford have to offer? Nothing more than above.
It wasn’t until 18 months later that Ford finally offered a V8, and upgraded the LWB models to try get to the bar Holden set.
SVO was always a niche operation, just like HDT after the Brock/Holden split, so hardly a Ford model you can use as a comparison.
Another tidbit for you - the headrests are the same frame and foam as the mid 80s Magna. This was made possible by GMH switching over to the “industry seat” in late 87, which shared its architecture and many sub components with so many other Aussie made cars from the day including the JE Camira, the later VL, Laser, Magna, R31, EA, and of course, VN to VS. It was a way of increasing the economy of scale for the local industry, and ultimately getting cheaper components for the local car makers. One of the very few good things to come from the Button plan that killed our local industry. Good being the economy of scale. The seats weren’t that good….
Vn seats were nicer than vl I think.
@ from Oct 87 the VL seats were the same as VN as far as SL, Exec & Berlina. Calais got different foam and fabric treatment. The onky other variance was the bolt on runners - the inner ones are unique to the model, but the outers are the same. Riveted tabs on VN vs spacers on VL on the inner front corner, and a larger step on the passenger inner runner on VL.
I feel like the brock seats were good a little bare around the seatbeat stalk, but in general 2nd gen seats had a lot more bolstering across the range but a less sporty feel by far @Low760
Hers was wrong with the seat? What car would you compare them to of the day? A Mercedes S class or BMW 7 series?
Don’t need to compare them to much more expensive cars. You only have to go back a couple of years in the same model. The Opel inspired but locally made VB-Early VL seats did a better job of holding you in on corners, and were much more durable than the industry seat used in the VN. Even mid level jap cars back then, that cost less, had better seats.