Would you guys like that players are able to Challenge umpire calls?? Or would it just delay the game too much?? Let us know your opinion in the comments 👀!.. Please hit the like and subscribe buttons if you enjoyed this episode - We appreciate it a lot 🤩🙌🏻🔥
Badminton need VAR. From that the player can challenge : service fault. service receiver movement. Shuttle fault. Racket fault. Body fault. In/out. Over the net. etc
absolutely yes, what happened to CTC is just too heartbreaking and annoying :( and Ginting also can't enjoy his win to the fullest because he try to be empathetic towards CTC, and the fans also has mixed feeling about that win because of that fault call, btw Anders looks good in his new haircut, hopefully he can get better luck in result with the new hair in the new year 😆😆, in chinese traditions, when you cut your hair prior to new year's eve, it means that you get rid of the bad luck and open your chance to the better luck for the new year 😉... Let's get HK to have a haircut too so he can get better luck for his last season next year 😛🤜🤛 Great episode as always 👏👏
It's certainly something that needs to be discussed but part of that discussion is to answer this question - could a player challenge a no fault call? E.g If you feel a player has touched the net on a kill but it isn't called, could you challenge? Seems like you should be able to. If no calls could be challenged then my worry with all these challenges wouldn't actually be the time wasting aspect, although that is a big factor to be considered, but the fact it could lead to a reduction in any calls by umpires. We have already seen a much lower number of over rules in line calls, even if it's obvious, since the challenge system has been in place. Like I said, this is a big discussion and needs to be had 👍🏻🙌🏻 Great episode as always guys, loved it
I think it's fine, you have your two challenges, and if the umpires are wrong then you should be able to keep challanging. The problem seem to be that we still dont know if the serve was too high or if the umpire was right? I find the discussion you guys had to be a bit strange, if players are always serving too high, simply because umpires are afraid to call it, then that is the problem, not the few cases where the umpire is in fact enforcing the rules correctly. If they are serving too high, and always serving too high, then they are basically cheating, so good on umpire to call it out. But if the umpire is wrong then he / she is basically destroying the game. Follow the rules, enforce the rules. And verify, that is the most fair way.
Just see the final between Chou and Ginting in Hylo Open. Wtf was that. Umpires are human they can make mistake. Players should get 1-2 chance to call. And if they get it wrong they lose the review. Same with line judges.
Indonesian netizen can be childish and insufferable but everyone knows that nationality matters in Asia. God forbid if hypothetically an official would call Tai Tzu Ying from China, it might as well trigger World War III.
Really great to have another episode again with you two, getting updates on Andres, and Hans. It is unbelievable what happened to CTC and the way it went. If one of us dreamers got to that level and that happened to us we would be furious. Major respect to CTC, hopefully world class badminton can become more fair for what the players want.
1. Waiting for a poll on Anders hair cut 😁. 2. Indian's also will get pissed if country is wrongly mentioned during prize ceremony. See, its the time when people who don't know or getting to know the game actually give attention to their names and details. So its a very bad time to wrongly mention that. It shouldn't happen to any player at any point. 3. Waiting for world tour finals discussion! 4. Love your content and badminton 🏸!
You guys explained well about the announcer's mistake. It is about culture - for some theycan just laugh it off, the pride/nationalism for the citizen - even how sporting event like badminton can be the thing that unites the country/make them proud, the rivalry between the two countries, as well as the level of education for the general public. I mean you guys could see the expression of the players as well when they heard the wrong announcement - but yeah it is not that it erased the happiness of the victory eventually. Having heard how it went/it affect even guys like Anders, it should not have been like that (in terms of the public reaction to further perpetuate it) - just have the dialog between the relevant parties, clear the air, and move on.
on the 'malaysia' misnaming issue: its not just a competition between msia/indonesia issue. its also a respect issue. i think the respect issue goes very deep. eg richer countries and cultures have more 'self-esteem' than poorer countries. so theres more width for you for example to say 'its not a big deal'. for indonesian fans often badminton is the major international point of pride they have. so its a much bigger deal. denmark for eg you could argue has more things going for it (eg better living standards, etc). there may also be the whole 'europeans are colonisers' stereotype possibly in asia (even though denmark in recent history was not a major perpetrator). so many underlying issues that could cause indonesian fans to be more 'sensitive' about these 'minor issues' which could signal disrespect. but i also agree it might be slightly cultural, in the sense of how u deal with these issues. ie with backlash vs with humour. maybe also signals a lack of maturity by the fans commenting about these things. maybe therere more younger fans and most of the fans in europe are older? (i noticed in stadiums you can see the demographic of audience in stadiums in europe is generally older). whereas in asia the age range is bigger. so of course you get some kids who are more sensitive and immature about these things.
Yup so true, it's about the pride. The only dicipline that Indonesia can go through the final. We were so proud of this, and at the end Malaysia won the men double 🤣
Very well said Hans Christian at 29:00 . Its because of Malaysia that the Indonesian fans were angry. If it would have been any other Nation , effect would have been little less. I had also commented the same in your twitter post.
You are underestimating Naraoka, he is consistently doing well and still not at his peak or super familiar with other players style. He will be a great player.
Thanks so much.. The Badminton Experience always my fav. Please Hans, if you're retired, may be you can be an announcer in Denmark Open, in the future. Because you have an amazing knowledge about Badminton.. 😊🙏🙏 BWF must improve the technology to help the referee to decide with right. Just like VAR in Soccer or Video Challenge in tennis/ voley ball, with that technology, the referees can take a right decition..
Agree with Hans analysis on the serving errors! In fact serving is really key in doubles as you can get tapped easily by opponents with a low quality serve
I like how Hans-Kristian mentioned Ginting lost Hong Kong open 2019 to Lee Cheuk Yiu due to a controversial call in comparison to CTC's misfortune in the Hylo open. What about the point you obtained agaist Lee in Thailand open 2021 at 19-19 when you literally slammed your racket into the net but the umpire gave you the point. You celebrated the point emphatically, a result that essentially cost Lee his Olympics qualification with the unjust loss. Difference is you would have known that you hit the net but Lee wouldn't know if Ginting's racket was over the net or not. Kudos to Ginting for not celebrating extensively over the controversial result at Hylo open in contrast to how you hit Lee with the "Hong Kong open final" after the game.
Hope you get healed quickly & rest well. Soaking feet with epsom salt & some peppermint / eucalyptus essential oil is good for you ! Enjoy your time too….
In Denmark 🇩🇰 open : 4 out of the 5 badminton disciplines : were won by Chinese players though . Women’s singles : He Bing Jiao Men’s singles : Shi Yu Qi Mix doubles : Zheng Si Wei & Huang Ya Qiong Women’s doubles : Chen Qing Chen & Jia Yi Fan. It was rather impressive !
Almost didn't recognize you , AA! Great hair btw and speedy recovery! Thank you for addressing and commenting on all of the topics! Agree with you two, there has to be standards on umpiring too. Like, sometimes you'll get an extremely strict umpire sometimes you don't. Also to add about the misannouncement, for me personally it's not because the announcer mistook it for Malaysia, it's just... It was Fajar/Rian's first title in Super 500 and above, also it's been quiet some time to see the minions back on the podium again, and seeing their confused face during the announcement was so disappointing to see :( They were so excited but too. A pretty monumental moment tbh, so yeah... Not trying to justify some of the extreme negative comment tho, but yeah. Pretty disappointing experience :' will never wish it to happen to any players.
Nice hair cut Anders😊😊good luck for next tournament. Well..about Indonesian fans..our founding fathers spend a lot of efforts to created Indonesia..with love and even their bloods. And now we continuing that efforts until now to make Indonesia being acknowledged by the world. Just ny suggestion don't try to pinch about our nationalism or culture. But we are can very respected and love others who respect us especially our nation more than you can imagine or other countries fans can do, as you can see during tournament here. About insulting it's not only to other nations atheletes..they will do that to our own atheletes or commitee when there's something wrong about tournament in Indonesia espesially when it happen to other countries players..you can cek with Pak Rudi or PBSI about it😊 My curriousity..why BWF keep using slow shuttle recently or they have any consideration to choose which shuttle type will used in the tournament. Nice episodes by both of you..good luck for Om Hans too
Okay, first of all, you don't make a mistake with a name of a COUNTRY! If this was a World Cup and the winner was Messi from FRANCE what do u think would happen? 2nd, BOTH winners are from Indonesia and you don't make mistake TWICE! 3rd, this is a very important WIN for both pairs (fajri & minions) and you (denmark open officials) RUIN IT! Fajri for their first S750 title after a very long career and minions for their comebacks. So Of Course our dissapointment is VALID and feel robbed 😤😤😤😤😤
Thomas or whatever that coach is called (seen him next to Kenneth many times) can shove it, you two can support him or understand his actions but on a world stage, decorum must be maintained. All this fire, „being there for his players“ and so on doesn’t entitle him to being physically aggressive, get a grip or get the F out. Try that again in China or at least outside home soil eh. 🫥
Best moments for me from this episode: 1. Anders touching tribute to his childhood buddy Rasmus 2. Hans-Kristian's shout out to Pearly Tan and Thinaah. And yes - do make a poll which hair length suits Anders best! Another great episode. Thanks guys! Looking forward to the next one.
The umpire really decided the match in the CTC-Ginting match and it sucks for both players because I'm also sure that Ginting wouldn't have wanted to win in that way
vittingus is perfectly correct. i too felt so..the serves now a days are not being checked seriously. and when one umpire does it, people make huge deal of it. so they all shd be trained. may be this is because umpiring used to be voluntary service..i guess
yeah i think most of those empires are not full time, like they have their other jobs and i even suspect those part time empire gain more from their other jobs which might be that many of them not taking this empiring job as serious
Wow I didn't realize there's so much drama in the past few tournaments 😲. Me personally agree about players could've challenge the umpire calls with a replays like they show in TV, BWF should add a technology like VAR in soccer or volleyball. And also, when you mention about Victoria Kao's way to cheer up CTC, I think it would be fun to have both of them in the podcast 😆 I think they have pretty good English.
I appreciate you have to have adverts on the channel and I always watch them to help support you, in this episode there was so many it was not watchable and I didn't enjoy it at all you hardly said a few sentences when another advert popped up.
Sorry about that! We're really not sure why that is the case for this particular video. We haven't changed any settings in regard to ads, so it should just be like any other video we have uploaded in the past. Strange!
@@TheBadmintonExperience I guess its down to UA-cam as the more adverts shown the bigger the slice for them, its not put me off and i always watch the adverts as i appreciate what you do and nobody can work for free.
Great to finally see you guys back again! still feels weird seeing Anders with short hair but definitely looks better and younger. Can't wait to see him start all over again and of course I really hope Hans can participate in the tournaments he wanted to play on his final year! Very happy for Rasmus to reach the final at French Open and also seeing some other players winning their 1st world tour title for the first time Rehan/Lisa, Lu/Yang from the recent Europe tour Looking forward to the next episode 👏
Agree. I also think China is missing the type of winning players like Lin Dan or CHEN long. Shi Yuqi definetly have this in him, but hard to see the potential from other male single players in China at the moment. Maybe this is the reason why they get him back to the team again..hahahhaha
still the best podcast on youtube, quality hosts and great personal expertise and opinions that are constantly intriguing! keep it up and look forward to next episode
Wow! again.. felt so good to watch and listen to these Badminton pros. Salute to both of you. All these dramas happened!? hahah.. amazing.By the way wouldn't it be more fun and clear and far more interesting if we can also put on the clips (video clips) of what we are talking about? wishing well and Speedy recovery to the new hair cut guy.
about that mistake by the announcer in denmark open, the timing could not be worst than that lol, ofc there's always high tension between indonesisians and malaysians but i think that week there was a pretty big drama going down on twitter between indonesian and malaysian netizens, so you can say the indonesians were a bit more sensitive at that time haha
They are always over sensitive, what excuse did they have in the All England to send everyone connected death threats for months after? I know a couple of the players family were was still being abused with death threats three months after the tournament, there is no excuse for.
@@patrickjones1143 well i was talking about solely on indonesia-malaysian context that hans-kristtian brought up, indonesian netizens lacking attitude on the internet is a different conversation i think (not denying it), i mean if im allowed to 'defend' them i want to say there are netizens from other countries who are like that it's just that there are 200millions ppl in indonesia with a lot of them being badminton fans so there are higher chance there are more rotten/uneducated ppl among them than other countries fans (not saying its acceptable tho)
Badminton player should be given choice to challenge net close plays by using drs review, and if anything is wrong umpire should change his call.just like cricket...🤔
On the service fault issue - Huang ya Xiong was even called as well! which given her height being 5' 5" seemed particularly weird. The commentator even noted she would practically have needed to serve at her chest height and was confounded at the call herself. And yeah it just seemed strange that it was strictly the chinese pair and not the danish pair at all. I can respect where you guys are coming from though that it is all too easy to call it a bias when that isn't necessarily what's happening, and that there's generally a consistency issue as well. But that said, it did seem truly strange even accounting for these factors, and I don't think we can say with certainty that the service judge was adjudicating the two pairs on that court evenly. These judges are human after all, and that comes with a lot of pliability around the issue of fairness.
What were the officials at Denmark open trying to prove? That they are the best officials? Freaking frustrating with all the service fault calls, really disrupted the flow of the game for viewers
Don't know how you can be frustrated at an illegal serve, just because it's only called some times and not others, would it not be fair to say call it every time and make them correct it? Will they decide to call some close shuttles in just because it's frustrating for spectators and everyone else to see them going out?
holy shit i didn't realise that was AA until i skipped to the 1:06:50 timestamp (cos i only watched some topics) and he started saying "my mum", "my hair" LOL
Love your new hair. I’m big fan of you both! As the Indonesia and Malaysia mixed up on social media attack on you, probably those netizens mad due to “racism”? I can sense it as it happened in US when someone think Japanese are Chinese or all Asians are Chinese. I totally agreed it shouldn’t be on you or even the announcer as all human made mistakes.
That just shows how willfully Americanized many minds are, because in the context of an American who thinks everyone who speak Spanish are Mexican and every east Asian are Chinese, that could be argued being racists. But that's not even the case here. It had nothing to do with a racist stereotype. It was an embarrassing mistake which shouldn't have happened, but that's only what it was, a mistake, not some warped Americanized conspiracy notion of racism. Mistaken nationalities happen all the time outside the realm of America.. I can't even count how many times Danes have been mistaken for Swedes... or people who thinks that Europeans are all the exact same
FYI, most of us "Indonesian fans" was laughing at that announcer mistake. And most of the social media attacks were sarcastic jokes. But ya few of them were pissed of, but it was only few percent of millions badminton fans in Indonesia.
You must be stupid to think that social media attacks were sarcastic jokes, you’re just being defensive of and justifying ur own people’s terrible behaviour
A couple of questions, mostly for Anders. Sucks with the injuries. Regarding rankings, doesn't it give ranking points (and perhaps a little prize money) just to start in these tournaments and lose in the first round? I know it would be a sucky thing to do, but the last 3 tournaments, in europe you would basically be able to go there play 1 point and go back home the same day, so it wouldnt' be a great time or expense sink.
@@patrickjones1143 I dont think thats true at all. If it was, noone would participate. Fresh Open is a super 750 and it isn't that far from Denmark to France and Germany. And Denmark is also pretty close to Denmark.
30:33 She insulted an entire nation then tells them to just "move on" like it's no big deal. I'm not even from Indonesia and I'm pissed, fire her or fine or suspend without pay, honestly I've never ever seen this from any competition in any sport ever. Just shows how careless and racist some people can be, Malaysia Indonesia, Chinese, Japanese, Korean same shit. smh
Would you guys like that players are able to Challenge umpire calls?? Or would it just delay the game too much?? Let us know your opinion in the comments 👀!.. Please hit the like and subscribe buttons if you enjoyed this episode - We appreciate it a lot 🤩🙌🏻🔥
Badminton need VAR. From that the player can challenge : service fault. service receiver movement. Shuttle fault. Racket fault. Body fault. In/out. Over the net. etc
absolutely yes, what happened to CTC is just too heartbreaking and annoying :( and Ginting also can't enjoy his win to the fullest because he try to be empathetic towards CTC, and the fans also has mixed feeling about that win because of that fault call, btw Anders looks good in his new haircut, hopefully he can get better luck in result with the new hair in the new year 😆😆, in chinese traditions, when you cut your hair prior to new year's eve, it means that you get rid of the bad luck and open your chance to the better luck for the new year 😉... Let's get HK to have a haircut too so he can get better luck for his last season next year 😛🤜🤛 Great episode as always 👏👏
It's certainly something that needs to be discussed but part of that discussion is to answer this question - could a player challenge a no fault call? E.g If you feel a player has touched the net on a kill but it isn't called, could you challenge? Seems like you should be able to.
If no calls could be challenged then my worry with all these challenges wouldn't actually be the time wasting aspect, although that is a big factor to be considered, but the fact it could lead to a reduction in any calls by umpires. We have already seen a much lower number of over rules in line calls, even if it's obvious, since the challenge system has been in place.
Like I said, this is a big discussion and needs to be had 👍🏻🙌🏻
Great episode as always guys, loved it
I think it's fine, you have your two challenges, and if the umpires are wrong then you should be able to keep challanging. The problem seem to be that we still dont know if the serve was too high or if the umpire was right?
I find the discussion you guys had to be a bit strange, if players are always serving too high, simply because umpires are afraid to call it, then that is the problem, not the few cases where the umpire is in fact enforcing the rules correctly.
If they are serving too high, and always serving too high, then they are basically cheating, so good on umpire to call it out.
But if the umpire is wrong then he / she is basically destroying the game.
Follow the rules, enforce the rules. And verify, that is the most fair way.
Just see the final between Chou and Ginting in Hylo Open. Wtf was that. Umpires are human they can make mistake. Players should get 1-2 chance to call. And if they get it wrong they lose the review. Same with line judges.
Indonesian netizen can be childish and insufferable but everyone knows that nationality matters in Asia. God forbid if hypothetically an official would call Tai Tzu Ying from China, it might as well trigger World War III.
Antonsen looks very very different with short hair. Wow
Looks 10 years younger lol
The danish Erling Haaland. I'm sure Haaland will have to cut his hair as well now.
Really great to have another episode again with you two, getting updates on Andres, and Hans. It is unbelievable what happened to CTC and the way it went. If one of us dreamers got to that level and that happened to us we would be furious. Major respect to CTC, hopefully world class badminton can become more fair for what the players want.
1. Waiting for a poll on Anders hair cut 😁.
2. Indian's also will get pissed if country is wrongly mentioned during prize ceremony. See, its the time when people who don't know or getting to know the game actually give attention to their names and details. So its a very bad time to wrongly mention that. It shouldn't happen to any player at any point.
3. Waiting for world tour finals discussion!
4. Love your content and badminton 🏸!
You guys explained well about the announcer's mistake. It is about culture - for some theycan just laugh it off, the pride/nationalism for the citizen - even how sporting event like badminton can be the thing that unites the country/make them proud, the rivalry between the two countries, as well as the level of education for the general public. I mean you guys could see the expression of the players as well when they heard the wrong announcement - but yeah it is not that it erased the happiness of the victory eventually.
Having heard how it went/it affect even guys like Anders, it should not have been like that (in terms of the public reaction to further perpetuate it) - just have the dialog between the relevant parties, clear the air, and move on.
on the 'malaysia' misnaming issue: its not just a competition between msia/indonesia issue. its also a respect issue. i think the respect issue goes very deep. eg richer countries and cultures have more 'self-esteem' than poorer countries. so theres more width for you for example to say 'its not a big deal'. for indonesian fans often badminton is the major international point of pride they have. so its a much bigger deal. denmark for eg you could argue has more things going for it (eg better living standards, etc). there may also be the whole 'europeans are colonisers' stereotype possibly in asia (even though denmark in recent history was not a major perpetrator). so many underlying issues that could cause indonesian fans to be more 'sensitive' about these 'minor issues' which could signal disrespect.
but i also agree it might be slightly cultural, in the sense of how u deal with these issues. ie with backlash vs with humour. maybe also signals a lack of maturity by the fans commenting about these things. maybe therere more younger fans and most of the fans in europe are older? (i noticed in stadiums you can see the demographic of audience in stadiums in europe is generally older). whereas in asia the age range is bigger. so of course you get some kids who are more sensitive and immature about these things.
Yup so true, it's about the pride. The only dicipline that Indonesia can go through the final. We were so proud of this, and at the end Malaysia won the men double 🤣
Antonsen’s new hair looks so fresh.. He looks much younger… 😅🤟
Very well said Hans Christian at 29:00 . Its because of Malaysia that the Indonesian fans were angry. If it would have been any other Nation , effect would have been little less.
I had also commented the same in your twitter post.
Victoria coaches him too, was there at hylo and she gives him tips after almost every point like other coaches
You are underestimating Naraoka, he is consistently doing well and still not at his peak or super familiar with other players style. He will be a great player.
Thanks so much.. The Badminton Experience always my fav. Please Hans, if you're retired, may be you can be an announcer in Denmark Open, in the future. Because you have an amazing knowledge about Badminton.. 😊🙏🙏
BWF must improve the technology to help the referee to decide with right. Just like VAR in Soccer or Video Challenge in tennis/ voley ball, with that technology, the referees can take a right decition..
Anders looks very fresh with the haircut
Agree with Hans analysis on the serving errors! In fact serving is really key in doubles as you can get tapped easily by opponents with a low quality serve
good to see you both :)
I like how Hans-Kristian mentioned Ginting lost Hong Kong open 2019 to Lee Cheuk Yiu due to a controversial call in comparison to CTC's misfortune in the Hylo open. What about the point you obtained agaist Lee in Thailand open 2021 at 19-19 when you literally slammed your racket into the net but the umpire gave you the point. You celebrated the point emphatically, a result that essentially cost Lee his Olympics qualification with the unjust loss. Difference is you would have known that you hit the net but Lee wouldn't know if Ginting's racket was over the net or not. Kudos to Ginting for not celebrating extensively over the controversial result at Hylo open in contrast to how you hit Lee with the "Hong Kong open final" after the game.
Hope you get healed quickly & rest well. Soaking feet with epsom salt & some peppermint / eucalyptus essential oil is good for you !
Enjoy your time too….
In Denmark 🇩🇰 open : 4 out of the 5 badminton disciplines : were won by Chinese players though .
Women’s singles : He Bing Jiao
Men’s singles : Shi Yu Qi
Mix doubles : Zheng Si Wei & Huang Ya Qiong
Women’s doubles : Chen Qing Chen & Jia Yi Fan.
It was rather impressive !
Haha the first thing I noticed in this episode was Anders' new hairstyle too!
Almost didn't recognize you , AA! Great hair btw and speedy recovery!
Thank you for addressing and commenting on all of the topics! Agree with you two, there has to be standards on umpiring too. Like, sometimes you'll get an extremely strict umpire sometimes you don't.
Also to add about the misannouncement, for me personally it's not because the announcer mistook it for Malaysia, it's just... It was Fajar/Rian's first title in Super 500 and above, also it's been quiet some time to see the minions back on the podium again, and seeing their confused face during the announcement was so disappointing to see :( They were so excited but too. A pretty monumental moment tbh, so yeah... Not trying to justify some of the extreme negative comment tho, but yeah. Pretty disappointing experience :' will never wish it to happen to any players.
36:41 lmao this man just absolutely roasted the airpods XD
Hey, you guys forgot to mention to get Zhengsiwei on to Badminton experience with his english learning process...J
Love the new haircut!!
AA having a great hair day :) question : chen long retire just like that? no last match announcement before retiring?
Anders hair is nice and clean
Nice hair cut Anders😊😊good luck for next tournament. Well..about Indonesian fans..our founding fathers spend a lot of efforts to created Indonesia..with love and even their bloods. And now we continuing that efforts until now to make Indonesia being acknowledged by the world. Just ny suggestion don't try to pinch about our nationalism or culture. But we are can very respected and love others who respect us especially our nation more than you can imagine or other countries fans can do, as you can see during tournament here. About insulting it's not only to other nations atheletes..they will do that to our own atheletes or commitee when there's something wrong about tournament in Indonesia espesially when it happen to other countries players..you can cek with Pak Rudi or PBSI about it😊
My curriousity..why BWF keep using slow shuttle recently or they have any consideration to choose which shuttle type will used in the tournament. Nice episodes by both of you..good luck for Om Hans too
Finally the real AA is back, after a very long "Holiday" since the beginning of year 2021 😄😄😄
Best of luck Antonsen!
I miss you playing on the court
Wow Brad Pitt Antonsen
Le me : gets pumped when I saw this vid was out
Clicks on vid: who the f**k is this kid .....wait it's AA!!!💀🤣
Du är välkommen till Sverige Anders!!!
No more Haaland 😅
They should just judge umps the same way as NBA refs
Have a random audit on their work and “doc their pay” for potential violations
hair....
Okay, first of all, you don't make a mistake with a name of a COUNTRY! If this was a World Cup and the winner was Messi from FRANCE what do u think would happen? 2nd, BOTH winners are from Indonesia and you don't make mistake TWICE! 3rd, this is a very important WIN for both pairs (fajri & minions) and you (denmark open officials) RUIN IT! Fajri for their first S750 title after a very long career and minions for their comebacks. So Of Course our dissapointment is VALID and feel robbed 😤😤😤😤😤
Why you cut your hairs😠😡😡😡
How about if Antonsen from russia ..you will feel terrible right
Thomas or whatever that coach is called (seen him next to Kenneth many times) can shove it, you two can support him or understand his actions but on a world stage, decorum must be maintained. All this fire, „being there for his players“ and so on doesn’t entitle him to being physically aggressive, get a grip or get the F out. Try that again in China or at least outside home soil eh. 🫥
Hahahah… Antonsen admitted he had experience (bad) with this lady service judge… No surprise… 🤣😆🫣
Best moments for me from this episode:
1. Anders touching tribute to his childhood buddy Rasmus
2. Hans-Kristian's shout out to Pearly Tan and Thinaah.
And yes - do make a poll which hair length suits Anders best!
Another great episode. Thanks guys! Looking forward to the next one.
The umpire really decided the match in the CTC-Ginting match and it sucks for both players because I'm also sure that Ginting wouldn't have wanted to win in that way
vittingus is perfectly correct. i too felt so..the serves now a days are not being checked seriously. and when one umpire does it, people make huge deal of it. so they all shd be trained. may be this is because umpiring used to be voluntary service..i guess
yeah i think most of those empires are not full time, like they have their other jobs and i even suspect those part time empire gain more from their other jobs which might be that many of them not taking this empiring job as serious
Wow I didn't realize there's so much drama in the past few tournaments 😲. Me personally agree about players could've challenge the umpire calls with a replays like they show in TV, BWF should add a technology like VAR in soccer or volleyball. And also, when you mention about Victoria Kao's way to cheer up CTC, I think it would be fun to have both of them in the podcast 😆 I think they have pretty good English.
In Asia if you get the nationality wrong its like getting the gender wrong in Scandinavia. Everybody looses their minds
I appreciate you have to have adverts on the channel and I always watch them to help support you, in this episode there was so many it was not watchable and I didn't enjoy it at all you hardly said a few sentences when another advert popped up.
Sorry about that! We're really not sure why that is the case for this particular video. We haven't changed any settings in regard to ads, so it should just be like any other video we have uploaded in the past. Strange!
@@TheBadmintonExperience I guess its down to UA-cam as the more adverts shown the bigger the slice for them, its not put me off and i always watch the adverts as i appreciate what you do and nobody can work for free.
Great to finally see you guys back again! still feels weird seeing Anders with short hair but definitely looks better and younger. Can't wait to see him start all over again and of course I really hope Hans can participate in the tournaments he wanted to play on his final year!
Very happy for Rasmus to reach the final at French Open and also seeing some other players winning their 1st world tour title for the first time Rehan/Lisa, Lu/Yang from the recent Europe tour
Looking forward to the next episode 👏
Agree. I also think China is missing the type of winning players like Lin Dan or CHEN long. Shi Yuqi definetly have this in him, but hard to see the potential from other male single players in China at the moment. Maybe this is the reason why they get him back to the team again..hahahhaha
Anders hair in my opinion looks far better but I am sure others will disagree.
Anders is sooo handsome 😍
still the best podcast on youtube, quality hosts and great personal expertise and opinions that are constantly intriguing! keep it up and look forward to next episode
The problem is not many times called, its the double standard of the calls.
Vittinghus looks handsome 😘
Wow! again.. felt so good to watch and listen to these Badminton pros. Salute to both of you. All these dramas happened!? hahah.. amazing.By the way wouldn't it be more fun and clear and far more interesting if we can also put on the clips (video clips) of what we are talking about? wishing well and Speedy recovery to the new hair cut guy.
about that mistake by the announcer in denmark open, the timing could not be worst than that lol, ofc there's always high tension between indonesisians and malaysians but i think that week there was a pretty big drama going down on twitter between indonesian and malaysian netizens, so you can say the indonesians were a bit more sensitive at that time haha
They are always over sensitive, what excuse did they have in the All England to send everyone connected death threats for months after? I know a couple of the players family were was still being abused with death threats three months after the tournament, there is no excuse for.
@@patrickjones1143 well i was talking about solely on indonesia-malaysian context that hans-kristtian brought up, indonesian netizens lacking attitude on the internet is a different conversation i think (not denying it), i mean if im allowed to 'defend' them i want to say there are netizens from other countries who are like that it's just that there are 200millions ppl in indonesia with a lot of them being badminton fans so there are higher chance there are more rotten/uneducated ppl among them than other countries fans (not saying its acceptable tho)
@@andhiniretno3886 yes I definitely see your point, you put it across very well and I take it on board
Badminton player should be given choice to challenge net close plays by using drs review, and if anything is wrong umpire should change his call.just like cricket...🤔
On the service fault issue - Huang ya Xiong was even called as well! which given her height being 5' 5" seemed particularly weird. The commentator even noted she would practically have needed to serve at her chest height and was confounded at the call herself. And yeah it just seemed strange that it was strictly the chinese pair and not the danish pair at all. I can respect where you guys are coming from though that it is all too easy to call it a bias when that isn't necessarily what's happening, and that there's generally a consistency issue as well. But that said, it did seem truly strange even accounting for these factors, and I don't think we can say with certainty that the service judge was adjudicating the two pairs on that court evenly. These judges are human after all, and that comes with a lot of pliability around the issue of fairness.
Hi guys, I hope you are doing well.
Anders- How closely are you following Sergio Ramos for hairstyle motivation?? 😂😅😅
What were the officials at Denmark open trying to prove? That they are the best officials? Freaking frustrating with all the service fault calls, really disrupted the flow of the game for viewers
Don't know how you can be frustrated at an illegal serve, just because it's only called some times and not others, would it not be fair to say call it every time and make them correct it? Will they decide to call some close shuttles in just because it's frustrating for spectators and everyone else to see them going out?
So in summary
Slow shuttle : Viktor wins🇩🇰
Fast shuttle : Kean Yew wins 🇸🇬 ?
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holy shit i didn't realise that was AA until i skipped to the 1:06:50 timestamp (cos i only watched some topics) and he started saying "my mum", "my hair" LOL
Finally there is an episode. Been waiting for an episode quite long. Always loves your video. Sending support from Singapore!
I kinda like AA this hairstyle. This hairstyle suit him.
Admitt it Anders, mid cut you made some mullet pictures and we need to see those. ty
Anders look very nice with short hair 😊🎉! 👏
So many drama's.. i like it 😍🔥
Good content as always. 😊 thanks both
awesome!
Nice hair cut !
Love your new hair. I’m big fan of you both!
As the Indonesia and Malaysia mixed up on social media attack on you, probably those netizens mad due to “racism”? I can sense it as it happened in US when someone think Japanese are Chinese or all Asians are Chinese. I totally agreed it shouldn’t be on you or even the announcer as all human made mistakes.
That just shows how willfully Americanized many minds are, because in the context of an American who thinks everyone who speak Spanish are Mexican and every east Asian are Chinese, that could be argued being racists. But that's not even the case here. It had nothing to do with a racist stereotype. It was an embarrassing mistake which shouldn't have happened, but that's only what it was, a mistake, not some warped Americanized conspiracy notion of racism. Mistaken nationalities happen all the time outside the realm of America.. I can't even count how many times Danes have been mistaken for Swedes... or people who thinks that Europeans are all the exact same
FYI, most of us "Indonesian fans" was laughing at that announcer mistake. And most of the social media attacks were sarcastic jokes. But ya few of them were pissed of, but it was only few percent of millions badminton fans in Indonesia.
You must be stupid to think that social media attacks were sarcastic jokes, you’re just being defensive of and justifying ur own people’s terrible behaviour
A couple of questions, mostly for Anders. Sucks with the injuries. Regarding rankings, doesn't it give ranking points (and perhaps a little prize money) just to start in these tournaments and lose in the first round? I know it would be a sucky thing to do, but the last 3 tournaments, in europe you would basically be able to go there play 1 point and go back home the same day, so it wouldnt' be a great time or expense sink.
To lose in the first round would not cover 10% of his expenses, winning the tournament hardly covers the expenses nevermind losing in the early rounds
@@patrickjones1143 I dont think thats true at all. If it was, noone would participate. Fresh Open is a super 750 and it isn't that far from Denmark to France and Germany. And Denmark is also pretty close to Denmark.
Too many ads ! Unbearable !
Not sure why that is the case. We haven't changed any setting, so it should just be like any other video we have uploaded in the past.
30:33 She insulted an entire nation then tells them to just "move on" like it's no big deal. I'm not even from Indonesia and I'm pissed, fire her or fine or suspend without pay, honestly I've never ever seen this from any competition in any sport ever. Just shows how careless and racist some people can be, Malaysia Indonesia, Chinese, Japanese, Korean same shit. smh
She did not insult anyone. Merely made a mistake. No big deal from a non-Asian perspective avec Antonsen and Vittingus said.
New haircut!! It gives Anders a different look