What it Means to have an IQ LESS than 83 | Jordan Peterson
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I did an IQ test.
When I finished it asked me to pay to see my result.
I didn't.
I passed.
@John Muhleisen you failed... to see the joke.
I was curious so I took one, hate that they wait until after you've invested time in them to tell you that you need to pay. It screamed scam at me, something like"I've already taken the test I cant not find out the results..."
Toran Hansen you could make an online iq test of your own and make a fortune. That’s what people did
I don't think that paying for something like an online IQ test is necessarily a scam. Although it very well could be at times. But I'm more suspicious of things that are offered for free like anti-virus software and advertisements. Like, imagine if a plumber fixed some shit for you and then at the end says, "It's on the house." You would immediately think "Well, that pun was awful, and also what the fuck did he actually do if he's not gonna charge me for his time and labor?"
Toran Hansen That was smart that you didn’t pay!! ThEy should add points to your score for that!!!
I have an IQ of over 300! That's what the floor clock says when I stand on it.
Floor clock lol
That genuinely made me happy, so thank you
Thanks Draw, you gave me a much needed laugh.
My it is so high, I became a psychic.
Good job! You should eat some cookies for being such a smart boy! I bet that IQ will get even higher!
My floor clock spins so fast when i stand on it..!
Many years ago, I had a middle-aged man with an IQ well below 70 working for me in a machine shop. He had some physical abnormalities, such as fingertips which were enormous (other workers called him 'ET' because of his odd hands) and nostrils so large that he used the handle of a bowl brush wrapped with toilet paper to clean out his nose (because his fingertips wouldn't fit inside his nostrils).
A dog was easier to train, but once trained he could load parts into a vise or fixture on a CNC machine tool that would mill the parts to very precise dimensions and tolerances. The accuracy required in the parts loading process for the expensive castings was tedious and frustrating to people of average or above average intelligence, but this man simply wasn't intelligent enough to become bored or frustrated.
There is a place in society for people of all intelligence levels but finding that place can be very difficult. Most employers are not willing to invest the excessive amount of time and effort required to train people of below average intelligence.
Thanks for this, my friend.
There are also different types of definable intelligence attributes. This man may have had a high level of one that made him suitable for that particular kind of work. Kind of like how slingblade was a savant when it came to small engine repair.
@@HexOmega3113 Loved that film.
@@gilcostello3316 remember when he walks into the bedroom with the hammer and they ask what you doin with that hammer Carl? I don't know, I just kindly woke up a holdin it.... reckon I oughta get baptized.
That scene is probably the most unintentionally funny thing I have ever seen 🤣
Not to mention terrifying as well lol
I have worked with a number of lower IQ guys before and what I came to understand about them is, they tend to have one or two things they have a knack at despite their disability. When you find that knack they have you can more effectively give them work they can potentially thrive at. They would usually get put with me as a helper to gauge for apprentice work, because I was the patient and mellow guy in the shops.
And bet your shop ran quite smoothly too!!
Actually yeah, and it was a mellow place to work environment wise. @@RickHenkle
i have found myself in this position, i found that they have a constant feeling that they are being treated poorly, much of the time they finish tasks late or not at all, because they believe they have a "better way" to operate this 200tonne press they are operating, all the while they Really believe we are constantly trying to defeat them because no one else likes their ideas, including the other employees, the engineers we have , as well as the manufacturer of the press. They are constantly filled with hate and anger, and basically get nothing done...
I knew some "smart" guys who dumbfounded me with some of their actions. High IQ doesnt mean youre wise or smart in all aspects of life
@@miquelr2353character goes a long way. We can teach our kids to show up on time and be polite and respectful. IQ isn’t the only relevant variable in the workplace.
Too low for the armed forces, high enough to vote.
And “educate” kids
The democrats prefer it that way.
Or - run for office...
Or become president in South Africa...
Good point ! With a low IQ you can send the high IQ to war.
I converted my IQ to the metric system so I could have a higher score.
Lifeify I think that was part of the joke, he set the premise that his IQ was low and emphasized it by making a conversion error
If you need to convert, you're already at an inherent disadvantage. You should divide, not multiply your score. Murican? x.7 in IQ from the start.
djdjd dmn you missed the whole joke
Carpet Climber you missed the joke too
Big brain
I have an IQ of 93 and seem normal to talk to but struggle in many areas of academics and certain areas of my job I can't imagine how hard life is for those more than 10 points less very hard a think
I have an iq of 85, and its not so easy, but persistance is key, we can learn certain things if its not beyond our comprehension, for example programming would be too much, but learning design, and wordpress, that kinda stuff is pretty easy, just takes persistance, and you can be successful.
The thing I noticed, that was life changing for me, was to be open minded, and to listen to people who are much smarter than me... that realisation changed my whole world.
@Marconel100 Do you really have an I.Q. of 85?? You seem smarter than this. Did you actually take a real I.Q. test administered by somebody trained in intelligence testing such as a clinical psychologist?? Because so many people in the comments seem to know their I.Q. when in fact it is quite rare that people take an actual I.Q. test that is not an unreliable test online!
stephensanderson, "IQ" can shift, but it does take effort and it's frustrating. Despite what Dr. Peterson says here, I'm not sure that IQ tests are really that comprehensive in determining ability, although what he relates here is alarming. Try to stay informed and work that brain of yours; that thing is like a muscle, it gets stronger with use. You just might shock yourself on how well you can improve, if you are really motivated and work hard at it. Also, learn to listen to others; that alone can do wonders. And btw, "smarts" doesn't always translate to "wise"; in fact, it rarely does. Peace and out.
@Marconel100 I don't think your I.Q. is 85. WordPress would be too much for somebody on this level, and most people struggle with programming at the beginning, even really smart people. Yes, I do think that obviously not everyone in the population could, but most people with pretty standard intelligence could if they just persisted and practised everyday. Programming is just a skill like no other no more than how learning to read Chinese must seem overly complicated to someone learning to read and speak Chinese, yet most people in China can!
I used to have an average IQ if 96, but it has dropped by 8. So now it's 88.
83 was a good year man.
The YEAR was good, that I will agree with.
My IQ was 134 when I finished college. My IQ is now above 150. I made all that up because this is the internet and it's the only way I can feel good about myself anymore.
Teach me senpai
Lol
Test that are testing fish at how good they are at climbing trees...... very smart indeed..... must have been made by a ''high iQ'' individual....loll
the first few times you take the test, are the more accurate results, after that you've learned how to answer those types of questions.
Sorry to say , you are closer to 130 then 150 still.
The thirteen percent have an IQ average of 80
I have 134 iq because my professor said it. He also touched my inner thigh.
@Green Giant YES
Your profile picture just shows that a teacher would touch you.
"P.S. I'm horny"
hahahaha that's good
Thigh q
I was sent to remedial school, because of low IQ scores in primary school. I managed to pass my electrical engineering degree with a 4.0. I would not have been able to read, if it wasn't for remedial school. I was diagnosed with Aspergers and Dyslexia.
In 2009, MENSA stated that I had an IQ of 142.
I did agree, but I had the emotional level of a teenager for most of my life.
It took experience to level my emotional with my way of thought.
jaeh i have 141 i am soon 40 and emotional i am 13ish ...
iq is worthless with that if u cant use it xD
Do you have an example of what your emotional immaturity looks like????
I am supposed to be pretty bright.... but am 60 going on 15 according to some people I know. Don't let it stress you too much. No use pretending you are something that you are not. That is the hand you were dealt.. make the best of it.
I think I’m dumb, so according to the Dunning-Kruger effect I’m smart. Oh wait, that makes me dumb again. Oh wait...
Haha
Stay down, Peasant!
You commented, that cements it.
LOL!! A brilliant way to make people laugh though ;-)
🤔
The problem is not people being educated,.
the problem is that they are educated just enough to believe what they’ve been taught
and not enough to question what they’ve been taught.
If I respond to your comment with doy doy doy it's because you have an IQ of less than 95....doy doy doy
SO DAMN TRUE, Always amazed me how easily people just believe what they are told, and APPEAL TO AUTHORITY..
Today so many people THINK they are educated because of a degree, yet so often really stupid and gullible,.
I have a low IQ, resulting in very difficult school years 1-12. But in the trades, I could focus my attention and develop hand/eye skills, and slowly acquire the mind development to see the finished job completed in all steps before it began. I did very well and made a good comfortable living by living small. The trades also gave me the extra time (7:00am to 3:30pm workday) to develop many other skills outside of my trade. I became a musician in solo piano and solo guitar. Then added audio engineering skills to record my own music. I eventually became a business owner using my skills learned over 40 years in and out of the trades. I am now a professional:
1) Graphic Designer
2) Illustrator
3) Photographer (portrait and product)
4) Photo retouch and press ink specialist
5) Type setter at 50wpm
6) Audio Engineer
7) Synthesizer sound designer
8) Audio effects designer
9) Poet
10) Creative copy writer
11) Animation creator
12) Musician
13) Composer
14) Videographer
15) Computer repair and maintenance
16) Computer coding for websites HTML/CSS
17) Pro athlete in bicycle racing. 6th in the world in 1986 in Ultra-Marathon racing.
What the fuck even is this post?
If thats true, i take of my hat to you, thats awsome. I have met many smart people who make the most dumb decisions and or are so high on their horses that you it makes one sick. It what ones does, not what god gave you sometimes.
You make me feel stupid and mine is 147. There are different types of intelligence. Kudos on the typesetting. I worked for a newspaper and I could get up to 100 wpm on copy. Ads were a bit more difficult because of font and size of type.
There's no way his post is real and if it is the quality of those professions is either atrocious or his IQ is way higher than a 'low IQ' (meaning somewhere in the 80 range).
People with such IQs can barely be taught menial labor like bagging groceries properly or bagging and cleaning plants and flowers .@@gwenking7700
bullshit you have low IQ .
you think someone with 90 IQ can do html / css ? I know those languages are a joke , but it still requires adaptation , and planning , and math ...
I worked in a wonderful programme with the " ineducatable " ....they went to school 3 days a week and worked 2 days a week ...the boss or myself would train them to do a simple basic routine that they took great pride in ,and did well....we tapped into a practical intelligence that sometimes solved problems unexpectedly....we made the job fit the kid ,not the other way around ...for instance ,with letter folding ....a pre sorting and a " ladder to climb " to photographs etc can be worked out ....part time work or job sharing was better ....but also ,working in a group enables the clients to organize themselves ,each doing their special jobs together ,they average a higher ability
totally unrelated to your insightful comment, but I must ask why is your punctuation so off? Why for example, would you put the space before the comma, that doesn't even save time compared to doing it right.
I have a normal IQ but my ADHD makes me lose focus so I lose points.
@@jayhill2193 I've seen other commentes that look like that too ....my guess is that they're used to writing things out on paper and not on the computer ....so ,they haven't picked up on how to format their text on the computer ....even though ,when I'm typing this reply ,I'm getting a ton of squiggles telling me I'm wrong ....consider ,for example ,how the commenter is putting spaces around their quotes ,writing things like " ladder to climb " rather than "ladder to climb" ....this is a pretty difficult way to write comments
My IQ is 98.6. That’s what the stick the doctor put in my mouth said. He said it was the perfect number.
It’s higher if you stick it up your ass.
I hope it didn't taste like shit, he might have used the wrong one.
Kaque Burlington and you didn't stick your stick into his mouth? Because it seems that your doctor doesn't know that the perfect number is actually 69.
It's not an oral exam. It for the other end.
That stick was his dick. Congrats on giving your first BJ :)
This was 100% a joke. Not being a jerk, but the joke was too good to pass on ok
I have an IQ of 187. And that's in the shade.
Oh... wait.... no, that's my credit score. Never mind.
MrJamberee LOOOOOOOOL
Ahhahahahahahaha
Save your pennies.
A hab les then 20 chwomosomes
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In 9th grade I was tested at an 84 level of IQ. Truth be told I hated school at the time, was skipping classes and using drugs a lot. I took the IQ test high and essentially bullshitted my way through it. I later dropped out of high school due to increasing mental health issues. Fast forward 10+ years and I'm now working on becoming a programmer, something that I actually excel in. It turns out that I have aspergers and ADHD. It made school and that environment really challenging for me, and they didn't realize it at the time. Struggled to hold most jobs as they involved social interaction and it burned me out horribly. I guess my point is that for some of us it comes down to not having the right ecosystem to thrive in. I haven't taken an IQ test since and have no interest in really knowing now. I feel pretty content and competent in the level of intelligence I'm at despite that initial 84 IQ assessment.
Hearing 16 percent at 85 and below actually blows my mind.
I didn't think it was that high.
85 is extremely low, there are chimpanzees that rival that level of intelligence.
it was 18%, so keep blowing your mind.
@@MicrocosmicExperience ; I would say for a University researcher its extremely low,85IQ but for normal work its not.
@@MicrocosmicExperience
Chimpanzees with 85iq?
Lmfao
That's probably for the general population, or a subsection of the general population. If you isolate for a different subsection of the general population, then you'll get 85 as an _average_ IQ, meaning that 50% of that population have lower IQ than that.
Those 52 million are who's voting passionately, then can't explain why when asked about it
That's literally 90% of all voters.
I think I might have an IQ higher than 83, but if I was walking down the street and a reporter randomly shoved a camera in my face and asked me about politics.... Well, I probably couldn't give him the smartest answers right away. They could easily edit the footage to make me look like a dumbass. They could convince their audience that whoever has a different opinion is a retarded sack of shit... like me...
51 million.
Well you know just because someone isn't smart, doesn't mean they aren't wise. Just as if you win an argument doesn't mean you are right or correct, it can just mean that you can argue better. If you were wise as well as smart, you would help your opponent make their argument better and stronger and aim at the truth, and not aim at winning.
Democracy is cancer.
Wow, this is from 5 years ago and I heard someone talking about it a couple days ago, like it was yesterday to them.
I always felt on the dumb side of average. In middle school I was given an IQ test because they thought I might need special classes and I scored a 122. I don't remember which of the two major test they used at the time but I still felt dumb. As I got older(late 20's) I realised what it was. I was not driven and lazy. My parents didn't care as long as I passed so I always shot for exactly that, barely passing, the lazy way out. Knowing this still doesn't make me feel any smarter. On a good note at least I have people at work that always come to me with questions. One guy told me I was the smartest person in our department so he'd ask me his question. My first reaction in my mind when I hear things like this, "is this a joke or are you being sarcastic?" when I realise it's neither I feel embarrassed because I don't deserve those words. I don't feel smart.
Edit just because I know something or might be able to solve someone's problem doesn't make me smart.
My job title is machinist. For now I'm operating a laser cutting machine because the last guy running it retired and they moved me over there this year.
we all can learn one job and be good at it. But I'd assume you are smart enough, Machinist there is a lot of math involved, and if you still have all your fingers you are doing well XD
IDK how much you listen to Peterson, but he's got some pretty interesting takes on intelligence, long term planning and industriousness. Apparently, intelligence is the most important factor in your success in life, however, industriousness is almost as important as intelligence.
The interesting thing is that there is no overlap between intelligence and industriousness. So, a lot of very intelligent people don't succeed to the point that they could because they don't have the ability to plan longer term and work diligently to achieve those goals.
I have been a line mechanic for one year.
Recently people were shuffled around so everyone can get comfortable in different areas.
The guy who taught me about our machines is in another part of the building and now I am training a mechanic.
I'm going into my second year, he is well into his third.
You need confidence my friend.
Yeah, that’s the other side of the Dunning-Krueger effect. You only don’t think you’re intelligent because you assume that everyone else knows all the stuff you know. They don’t. That’s why they keep asking you things.
I have this issue myself in regards to math. I’m very intelligent, and very good at math specifically, but I don’t feel like I’m very good at it because my little brother is much better. He’s taking calculus 3 in college right now and the best I could do was pre-calc. But people ask me for help with all kinds of math problems and I’m always just surprised they don’t know how to do these kinds of things. So, no, just because people ask you for help doesn’t mean you’re intelligent, but that is the way you can compare what you know to how much everybody else knows. You might not know much in the grand scheme of things, but that’s because no one human being can ever know any significant portion of everything that can be known. Just because you aren’t intelligent in absolute terms (because no one can be) doesn’t mean that you aren’t relatively intelligent.
I think I just got a little smarter after watching this. My IQ was 83 now it's 82.
lol good one
My sister at a young age was diagnosed to be mentally retarded i think iq of around 75, but my mom didn't give up on her she treated her the same as us. My mom never gave up and kept on teaching and helping her. By the age of of 17 she got a job thru a program that helped individuals liker her. She worked at HEB bagging food for customers and at a clothing store folding cloths. She passed away at 19 from sepsis caused by a ruptured appendix. She is my motivation in life to keep on learning and moving forward with my education.
That’s a very wholesome story. Sorry for your loss 🙏🏽
My son has autism. He is unable to do many things that most find easy. We all have a place in the world, we can all contribute to the betterment of our community. Those who are concerned with talking and reading, without application to our betterment, should reconsider how we all should live, not how we can perform in a competitive economic world.
😢
I like how Jordan Peterson mentioned Charles Murray in this because people claim he is a racist due to the data he discovered regarding IQ and ethnicity (it’s why the left wants to ban guys like Peterson because he sneaks such information into his rhetoric). As for people with subpar IQs, I do think there could be some positive attributes in it from the past which is why the attribute persists. Some of the best athletes in the world for example (football players, basketball players, sprinters, etc.) have an IQ below 85. One of the advantages of being an NFL athlete for example is to process things fast in real time and react quickly in accordance with that stimuli. Having a high IQ or even average IQ isn’t necessary for this and can perhaps even hinder such reactions.
Having high IQ often shows an ability to plan ahead, see patterns regarding the future, and being proactive in that regard seeing problems and adjusting before such problems even occur. However when it comes to running, jumping, seeing something quick and reacting to it physically, having a higher IQ can lead to such things like analysis paralysis as such people are more future minded as opposed to living and reacting in the present. Meanwhile athletes have no problem living in the present where their athletic career literally depends on it and reacting quickly in moment, pivot and change on the fly accordingly. The problem with them is that they are living in modern civilization and not on the plains somewhere hunting some big game.
Have you ever wondered why so many top tier athletes who are paid millions often end up broke? They have the brain to respond quickly in the present but lack the brain for any future planning or think far enough into the future to see any potential patterns that could lead to problems. Our civilization is being built and maintained by people who can recognize patterns and solve long term problems into the future that is sustainable for our society which is not a strength for a person who has a low IQ. However I maintain that such people exist as a relic and connection to our past as some do actually have amazing physical abilities that is unhindered from future thinking and relies solely on living in the present. There is a certain vibrancy to such thinking that unfortunately doesn’t translate to modernity.
God bless your sister. Beautiful tribute to her.
Mine varies a lot and have been tested a few times because of that.
It's likely because I sleep poorly and I'm nearly always tired.
Usually I score about 90, but whenever I've slept half decent I score about 115.
Proper sleep is perhaps the most significant thing when it comes to a successful and fulfilling life, but is often underestimated.
Same here, if I don't sleep enough, I lose like 30 points of IQ, I just become dumb.
Playing dumb is the new trend, when someone doesn’t want to do the work
Never let your schooling interfere with your education. . . Wise words from Mark Twain.
Is that like Pink Floyd ; teacher leave those kids alone
Wisdom is seldom associated with intelligence.
Never Assume you are more intelligent than you actually are. You'll be fine.
The problem is that people with low IQ scores won't be able to discern what Twain was actually saying.
While we're discussing numbers & Mark Twain: "There are lies, there are damn lies and then there's statistics"
I was tested and I had an IQ of 72. I had to go to special class. I gained about 50 IQ points when they found out that I’m not an Uzbek.
I am a Kazakh.
did they deduce 50 points because they thought you uzbek?
Hahahahhaahaha
how does that play a role?
@@CaptainObvious0000 iq tests might sometimes test something thats not basic knowledge for some part of the counrtys population. Similar thing happened in czech where gypsys systematicly got worse iq scores
@@Groope2101 i don't know why i missed that.
I took a Mensa IQ test in the 90s at work, and was invited to join as a member. I passed on their offer and quit my job as a government contractor, looking for greater challenges 😂.
IQ is not the only determining factor for success. I've met just as many genius that fail as simple folk who succeed. The fear of failure itself takes practice to overcome for smarties, but comes naturally to disadvantaged
Took a 5 minutes iq test = 133iq
Took a 18 minute iq test = 107iq
Now I'm scared to do the 30min one
your iq be dropping faster than my grades
dont do it
Those aren’t real tests just to let you know
@@NickB-md1oy I dont need tests to know that Im dumb tbh, hahahaha
@@RunescapeWhack I made a real test and it took 1 hour. Trust me dont do it. You will feel dumb forever and you lose your self confidence.
There was a documentary in my country where they interviewed people with high IQ scores (>140).What was staggering was that two where unemployed (could not hold on to a job), several where quite depressed and almost all where underachieving considering their natural talents. The reason? Mostly that so little in their life was exiting. Normal stuff where too boring and uneventful. They where stuck in a situation where they where too intelligent for normal events to be exiteful, and yet to unmotivated to do anything else. Like a mental prision. having a high IQ seems to have som dark consequenses not often revealed.
The world loses it's magic if you are smart enough to understand it's complexity. A lot of smart people are nihilists, they realise how pointless everything is and fall into depression. I often have the feeling, that stupid or less inteligent individuals have more fun and don't worry about stuff as much.
@@flAMe9610 yes, obviously you just happen to be the one of them, those living with the burden of extraordinary intelligence, like most people in the comments
@@robertjamestaylor9261 straight fax is UA-cam comments > mensa
@@flAMe9610 its magic
^ retards
I consider myself average and below (based on my life experience and interactions), I am 28 and had IQ test made last year, score was 120 which shocked me. I feel now like i should give more to society but I struggle with interactions and interhuman relations (probably due to me having Asperger Syndrome and living in foreign country with no friends outside of my work)
I feel like I had potential to 'win' in life, but I feel more and more like I am loosing in it.
Anyways, take care
If it shocked u then it’s probably incorrect. U should be easily be able to assess your intelligence from ppl around you. If you are smarter/more able to figure out things than the average person
Go out and meet people. Dont give up on that otherwise live is so boring
Dont be shocked aspi, youre only slightly above average which is why you have a hard time seeing yourself as highly intelligent. Youre probably doing just fine. After all, youre making it in a foreign country... 130 is the real turning point for "highly intelligent".
120 isn’t very high. No worries
@@francoismarion-eu3jq 120 is still in the top 10%. Not rare, but still well above average.
Lets not rush to judgement. With an IQ < 83, one still can be a senator from Pennsylvania or a congresswoman for NY (Bronx). Really any Government agency will hire one.
So true! In PA you don’t even have to be alive to win an election! Leaves me to believe the voters have a IQ under 83!
51 Million people unable to translate written instruction into action... and we let them vote lmfao.
fact lol.
Uriah Massey yeah & they're extremely fertile
Just spout a bunch of heartfelt bullshit and you have their vote or something.
So, what would you do? Also some of them pay their taxes don't they?
Most healthy democracies and republics allow their citizens to vote, since it is a right.
Except you don't talk about criminals, but civilians who have the right to live and the right to vote.
They also don't create public policies (in most cases), they vote for a political party or a proposed policy (usually created by politicians).
*I have an IQ of 80. and the reason for this is because I'm stupid.*
I don't think I could come up with something so cleverly dumb as that lol. Reminds me of: "You can tell it's a aspen because of the way it is". So dumb that it's funny.
Least you can't get drafted.
Thats a smart conclusion. Inspires me. I haz IQ too. I'm a cat.
herrreinsch lol...atleast you admit it
lol, the reason would be because of genetics and your environment.
We are witness to the beginning stages of "Idiocracy." It will just get worse.
To say 1 in 10 people aren't skilled enough to be in the military is not hard to imagine.
When I started basic training at Fort Dix in March of 72, there were guys from the South barefoot and had never worn boots ( or shoes) before.
3:57 mins in: " People below 90 cannot read and translate that into action "
5:14 Graduate level 125 are top 15% I have a 140 and was a forman on nuke plants.
In order to get into the plant to work as an electrician, You had Psych tests and interviews
and they kept a lot of people out while building or shut downs. Many are book smart and people stupid. Merry Christmas to All
83 out of 100 sounds pretty good to me.
haha
It's not out of 100. 100 is used as a baseline (average). The actual number scale itself is arbitrary, but 100 is a nice round number, so it gets used.
lol, you can't go higher than 100%, study some maths
im sure youre trolling, but they assign the mean score a value of 100.
whether you think IQ scores are "mean" or not, is neither her nor there. facts don't care about your feelings.
That really is tragically sad. You feel the hand of doom on so many people.
It be like that
The silver lining is ignorance is bliss
130 here. an anomaly when looking at my family. I often thank the higher powers up there for this gift, even though it has drawbacks of course. stay strong smart fellas :)
Jarvis. Cliff notes on the Bell Curve, please.
Education and intelligence should never be confused.
My IQ is 75 but my principle came over for dinner and worked out a game plan for my education with my mother. Ugh ugh ugh ugh!
What is the problem with that?
I got invested in some apple fruit company and now have cant tell me shit money. Not bad for a 75 IQ. I still mow my own grass though.
This is a Forest Gump reference, sillies.
I just bought a Shrimp Boat, going shrimping with a friend from the army.
@Martin gaudreau; stop bullshitting People! Your sentence and projected way of thinking in your post is too smart for such a low IQ. MacDonald work isn't for Retards and you seem to be able to easily be able to learn how to work there!
5 years later and this pops up on my feed for some reason.
Just wanted to add that the military actually doesn't give a sh*t about IQ.
I tried to get into the RAF in 1999...
I took their aptitude test, that was supposed to take 2 hours... and passed it 100% in less than 15 minutes.
They were concerned I had cheated, so they set me a different aptitude test which required me to memorise as much detail as possible in a 30 minute video.
Colours of shirts worn by people in the video, names of shops on facias of storefronts in photographs, how many trees there were on a roadside in a segment that showed footage of a street, etc etc.
I passed that 100% as I have an eidetic memory.
I can instantly recall over 1000 different phone numbers as well.
I tried to explain to the RAF that I can memorise Bible sized amounts of text, and had passed my driving test by memorising the 2 theory test books (which have every possible question and answer to the UK's driving test) from cover to cover and had passed that test which was meant to take 45 minutes, 100% within the space of 4 minutes.
But because they were concerned I had cheated, and then tested me with another 3 different IQ tests over a 6 week period... they came out at 203, 208, and 217.
They then decided to send me to 6 different physical examinations over another 12 week period.
After I'd gone through more weeks of testing than basic training would have taken, they decided to not take me into the RAF because I wear glasses.
IQ tests are not useful for people with your type of memory, as it actually doesnt measure your IQ in that case.
I like is compassion. M.
Well, I now know mine is higher than 83. I reckon it's 84 lol.
using lol? How about we take a point away for that..nah let's make it two, now you got a score of 82 which is not that bad..at least you don't need to go to the army right
stop bragging.
@@paulfrancis8836 jeez..pathetic right? mine is 83.5 and i don't brag about it, no need! Girls throw themselves at me. But i'm humble af
@@GLCCreepyPasta they cant throw themselves at you because girls dont have a way of applying a force on themselves that pushes them to a specific direction without outside aid
Hah dumbass!
My IQ is the groundbreaking 85!!!
Fear not, intellectually challenged lads, for I, the megamind am here to save you from ultimate doom
Too low for arm forces but good enough to become a politician.
@DUDAH oh politicians matter alright. Idiot voters put moronic politicians at the top
I think a politician probably needs to be at least flirting with average intelligence to avoid getting caught taking the bribes.
Those test vary with the auto-verbal association dyslexia which changed when read level increased, significantly when test modified to bypass that verbalization goes up 40 points. Practical learning assists in comprehensive level. The difference in public education & private is public stops & mocks private mocks and rides their ass!
my iq is 82.972 and I demand to be reckoned for smart, I'm almost there come on
My iq dropped as I became an adult it used to be 2 now it's 3
So as an elderly man it will be 1.lol
+Ogami Itto dont have 2 worry about my iq, compared 2 u im a genius
Chris Yunge guess so. You ruined it
Ogami Itto
I have IQ of potato!
is you using dem phuny imaginary numbers
I love the way this video ends with Peterson trailing off into endless details about paper folding methods.
xD
My IQ significantly changes with my Chronic Fatigue caused by chronic illness. When I am energetic and focused, my IQ is in the top percentile. When I can't focus and am chronically exhausted my IQ can drop to so far below average it's not funny.
I still have my logic when I'm braindead low IQ, so I can usually work through problems slowly... but wow is it ever slow. When I'm hyper-focused with my ADHD running at full speed I may think out 20 or 30 separate lines of thoughts during the time someone pauses for a moment in the middle of a sentence (and then I'll have no memory of what they were talking about, because it was sooooooooooo long ago... 4.5 seconds ago).
Brains are funny things.
When I was in the Army in the 1970s we had some guys who had GT scores (military equivalent of an IQ score) of 65. We had other guys who could barely read and would take 5 minutes to sign their name on any forms. These guys were usually nothing but trouble.
Racist 😬
There was a lot of friendly fire back in those days, sadly many front line killed by the stupid behind them.
These poor guys were just cannon fodder.
Wow, didn't know there were a lot of people who had the same IQ as Einstein in the comment sections.
They are lying
@@Bot-xl1ix Really!!!????
@@Bot-xl1ix or they took one of those shitty 5 min online "IQ tests". A lot of morons actually believe those online tests are accurate.
I worked as a high school teacher and one day, I had to work as a substitute in a special needs class. I was reluctant, but I rapidly changed my mind : those kids were all kind, without malice, in special needs yes, but good kids. Working with them was a charm.
That was my career for 28 years. By far my favorite community of people. They are such a joy. Happy 99% of the time. So so sad when I had to retire.
If you want to experience vicious kids with a special needs IQ just teach to black children.
I've been working with developmentally disabled adults and children all of my life. I can't imagine anything more rewarding.
Bless you, my son is in a specialist school. They can't do an IQ test on him, guessed it to be below 70. I have an engineering master's degree, dad has a PhD in computing field. Our son has taught us a lot. He just loves us and what he loves. He's not complicated in his wants and needs. There is no malice. There is joy for smallest of things- a pretty book cover for example. I view everyone differently. I chat with the person picking up leaves in the park or collect rubbish after the high school kids visit during their break time. I would be beyond proud if our son could manage to do such a job one day. It doesn't look likely yet so it's a big dream. Never judge. One person's "under achieving" is the next person going beyond their family's hopes and dreams and the expectations of professionals. Bless all the staff and teachers working in special need schools. Bless our special kids.
What a sad loss of potential.
look up Dunning Kruger in the dictionary, a lovely photo of JP
I am a Union Ironworker and I graduated High School, two trade schools, and went to college for five years. I do plumb up a lot in my trade which consists of surveying and plumbing the building. I get a lot of people who are sent to help me and I find that many aren't proficient in math and reading, this is shocking to me.
Even though I have an IQ of 200, I still can't grasp the complexities of Richard and Mortimer
HAHAHAHAH!!! Good one!
Lol
Mr. TeeKaNee if u only u had the IQ of 200 altho i heard it’s possible to get ur IQ up by a bit
@@samxd9468 I am not so sure about that. Maybe couple of points.
Mr. TeeKaNee Yh by a couple of points that’s what I was referring to, through things like mathematics etc... Either way it could the difference between an avrage and smart person tho 108-110
My IQ has an IQ of its own. I am that smirt.
Wwwwwwww col!
SMIRT...Wow so SMIRT I don't even know your words...
The irony is his recent posts on social media made him look like one of those people.
One time I took an IQ test that said I had an IQ test of 108, but the thing is, there were some questions (about sports of all things) that I had no clue about) and very basic questions about things I was very familiar with and could have written a paper on.
That doesn't sound like an IQ test. Shouldn't it mostly be testing logic and computational skills? As long as you know basic maths proper IQ test should give good results.
@@aleks5405 A good IQ test should test you across the board. Math, language and vocabulary, problem solving, visual problems, association etc... It's called The G Factor
@@aleks5405 it was literally an IQ test performed by someone trying to determine if I was neurodivergent. There were some logic questions, spelling, math, history, but some of it was sports/pop culture.
@@jacobstaten2366 Can you give an example of such a question about sports? Maybe there was some logic in it, maybe some kind of deduction. The test cannot test your knowledge.
@@jacobstaten2366You never took an actual IQ test, they are nothing like the stupid shit on the internet. You don't have to know how to read, nevermind answer fucking sports trivia. Sounds like you were born in the wrong body, on the spectrum with PTSD.
It means you are eligible to be the prime minister of Canada.
Just ask Harper.
...or, the speaker of the US House of Representatives.
John Hussynec - I'll take the math literate crackhead over the empty head of hair, myself.
Nope, but if you want to be the President of the US you good though.
Ednagettobed it explains the crime rate lmao
Those people should watch some Rick and Morty
My mom has always had problems reading but she comprehends what she reads she just reads very slowly. But her math skills are fantastic. If I have a problem on my taxes, she can read through the codes and explain to me what to do.
Neuro-typical people often treat our students with autism, Down's syndrome, etc., as if they're invisible, or worse, they insult them. Getting them into steady jobs IS very difficult, but the options are pretty much on the couch, at a day stay (IF the family has the money to pay for it, and IF a very hard-to-get spot in one is available), or maybe even institutionalization if things are bad enough. These are people, they have feelings, and they often try so very hard in a world that doesn't welcome them once they've set foot outside of the protection of the school system. Then, it's a free-fall.
I don't even want to know my IQ. If it's low (which I already suspect) I'll feel bad. If it's high--I'll probably feel even worse! It's a no-win scenario.
Dont worry about it man ....... everything boils down to luck anyway ..
LOL--I'm not worried about it at all.
@Politically Incorrect Bender If that.
@@MarkWrightPsuedo Just don't worry and do your best homie, that's all anyone can do.
why would you feel worse because of having above average intelligence?
Is there a humility level test? Because a lot of people in the comments section here would fail dismally...
"People who boast about their IQ are losers" -- Stephen Hawking.
Stephen Hawking "SAD" DEAD Was an OK guy :A
All the comments I see are jokes about being 3000 iq or mentally retarded
themanwiththepan except, presumably, my comment. And yours. Oh, and this comment.... 😀
Just in case, lol: Apparently the HEXACO personality model has humility/honesty as one personality trait. You could look into that.
I work with a low iq guy, he fell out of a 6th story window as a kid. It's extremely frustrating for everyone, I try to keep him out of trouble when I can but it's tough.
:(
Statistically, if your IQ is
I did an IQ test once... A legit one too...
The result was 23. So i shouldnt even be able to peele a banana, you need 37 to do that. Guess im a scientific wonder now.
huh
you poor guy hahahaha
which test was it?
How's Algernon doing?
it was the facebook iq test
Now I see why I never get the correct order at McDonalds.
His comment on mcdonalds makes no sense, because they literally put pictures of the items in question all over the thing. You'd have to be an absolute retard to not handle it correctly
I taught for 35 years and I honestly believe that people with an IQ of 83, or lower, can be trained to do many beneficial things.
I've seen people who have iq less then 80 iq do amazing things in life and do very well, so really have no idea what hes talking about
The bell curve by Charles Murray
I'am currently taking flouride to get my IQ down to my favorite number; 69. 8^)
Blessed is the mind too small for doubt!
5 iq
Magnus did nothing wrong.
You're dumb, but you sure got nice teeth.
my name jeff
420 iq coming through. I have transcended the terrestrial realm and into the celestial plane.
Terres trial terres tial ? ( hint : celes tial )
Terra a realm and Celes a plane ? Terra a plane .... Celes a realm ? Both a planerealm ?
Life is a trial & then you die & live 8 ?
My I.Q. is 8 ^^
"Beepers , Peepers , where did you get those Creepers ?"
"Life is like a box of turds .... it stinks but you bite it anyway ^^"
"Hasta la spaghetti monsta !"
"I'm on a plane .... I can't complane " ~ Kurt Cobane
At least I was not here to brag about my I.Q. (or E.Q. for that matterhatter) ^^
Peeper McBeeper lol,
Truth Sets Us Free ...I think we found the smartest man here (You)
420... I see what you did there! :-D
Your puny intellect is still nothing compared to the intelligence of a member of the Q continuum...
I enlisted in 1972 and the majority of draftees deliberately sand bagged all the tests. This had to skew the results.
If that's true then that means that the bar for acceptance was skewed lower, not higher.
In other words, if the military found that people below a certain IQ threshold where unsatisfactory in their duties despite a number of people also deliberately lowering their scores (and assuming those same people are able to perform their tasks adequately), then those people would effectively be presenting themselves as having a lower IQ despite actually being capable of performing their duties.
Mine's 98. Maybe I'm just stupid, but after so many shapes, patterns and whatever, I just got bored as hell and couldn't focus anymore. Either way, when I do something stupid I tell people it's not my fault, and when I do something smart I surprise them, so it's a win-win.
As someone who was diagnosed with M.I.D. Perhaps when I was as young as 7, this video really hits to close to home, for me. It despoils people from having a functioning life. I’ve been fired a dozen times for being “to slow” and making friends is to ruff. Everyone I knew is either in university or have a full time job. Whilst the odds are against people like us. Although watching Jordan Peterson is very nice to listen to. Great as always.
For someone with M.I.D, you write extremely well.
Eric Lord thank you.
By chance do you use Grammarly?
M.I.D. Meaning mild intellectual disability?
Funny story I supervise a steel fixing crew, and the dumbest guy in the crew who can barely read is by far my best worker. Moral of the story, intelligence isn't everything.
So when you see someone doing something really fucking stupid you guys say-
-"That's a smart guy right there" As code he's a fucking idiot
Joel Abraham you must be old. So he is a human cattle that's why he is such a "asset" to you...
DiscoFalcon LOL
JR Bugsy Stearns Your sad attempting (poorly) to chastise a man praising his hard working employee who may struggle in his daily life. What is your gift to society BTW?
@Joel Abraham, “dumbest guy in the crew”, maybe change the way you think of him. He may not be the smartest but have the biggest heart.
The problem with Peterson's argument is that he assumes the military is willing to accept anyone who can be trained for a basic job. But, the reality is the military needs people who can be successful at basic supervision. This is because everyone enlisted in the military needs to be able to achieve a sergeant level or higher. Outside the Gomer Pyle TV show, there are no career Privates in the military. So, the military isn't looking just for someone who can operate a machine, cook a meal, etc, but they need people who can supervise a few people operating a machine, cooking meals, etc. They need people who can become a department manager, not just a worker bee.
Yeah I honestly think you're right. When I was fresh out of high school I failed the asvab test but I still ended up becoming successful in the civilian world. I got into the pipefitters union and had to learn trig and complex stuff so I find it hard to believe that the avab test actually determines a person's future success level. I make decent money but I failed it 🤷♂️.... IQ definitely helps but working hard and learning a skill that's in high demand is the main thing that determines a person's income level.
Dunning-Kruger in full effect here
Forrest Gump was a patriot 🇺🇸
Yea he was under 80! His mom had to bang the teacher to get him in regular school!🤣
He mowed that grass for free!
Forrest was a genius. He excelled at everything he did. The principal only said he was stupid, in order to 'date' his mother. It was actually everyone else that was stupid, because they did stupid things.
My IQ is 200 because I watch Rick and Morty.
I know, Shame that there's not many of us
@@GoRushABC ...made my day ^^
one theybie from my class said, "I hate Rick and Morty because the people who watch are idiots" ..... lmao right u theybie freak
@@lun1ses it did? In what ways?
@@jaytrogen7106 ...in many, deeply connected ways to my association of "positive emotion", which gave me a good serotonin kick, i have to say
Look at IQ by race, it explains a lot.
There was a very simple test that I took while I was in high-school known as the instructions test or the paying attention test. The test can range from ten to thirty questions if done correctly but it tests something very important to the ability of the test taker to properly follow directions and remember instructions. The first instruction/ question is to write your name along the top or bottom in a specific way. The second to date it in a certain way. The third is to read all further instructions before taking any actions. The last instruction/ question is to ignore all instructions after the third except the last. All instructions/ questions between the third and last don't matter and could be any indication/ question because those don't really matter they are actually only there to insure that the person is actually following the instructions and paying attention to them. Yes this is a type of intelligence test and it does show exactly how much attention that the group or person you are testing is capable of.
I've had these tests before, but I would disagree that they are an intelligence test. Maybe slightly. But I think they are more of a test of someone's patience or trust. Mainly because the most probable cause for people failing this test isn't due to a lack of comprehension but due to a lack of patience; so they would comprehend the instruction telling them to read all instructions but would then deliberately chose to disregard it because they believe it would result in them doing less work or completing the test faster.
@R3_Live Remember the person who is reading the questions isn't paying proper attention to the text on the page and therefore they don't comprehend what the questions are saying. This is a problem with so many different things I wasn't calling it a true intelligence test I was calling it either a comprehension test or a paying attention test. Typically the majority of people are so focused on how they think things should be that they disregard the truth about the test and sometimes the world as a whole too. The reason why I talked about it was because this has because a massive problem with the world today.
@@jedstanaland2897my brother is an engineer with a paper from the uni. I am not.
We bought parts to build PCs, full build each. I read the instructions, he did not.
Mine worked upon pressing the start button, his didn't boot at all. I asked him did you read the instructions? "No I'm an engineer I can figure it out."
He learned CAD at uni. I learned it in my room making things.
We have the same job at different places, almost the same salary. Two different paths, sameish career result (I'm also younger) but I would dare say I'm more competent than him. He's never actually made anything himself at all.
This adds to your point because there is a difference between skills on paper and actually making things happen. Reading instructions is basically understanding how to make something specific happen, how to get a particular result. Something so complex as a computer with different parts and cables that have to be specifically placed according to the instructions and labels can't just be done randomly, there's a pattern to follow.
JP says many times it's hard to be creative because it's very hard to make a new pattern that actually works iteratively. People who fail the test you speak of are of lower IQ for sure, because it does show a lack of patience and attentiveness, as well as observation before action, all key signs of a higher level of intellect if displayed.
Ironically these are the same type of people who will participate in things without thinking about the consequences. Insert vague reference to forced medical inoculations.
I have used that several times with my students.
We received this test in school and i just randomly picked some questions that seemed short and easy instead of doing it from top to bottom. Guess i'm dumb then.
you guys are so judgemental 83 is a solid B-
Northernlion?
I wouldn't be surprised, given he's 39 episodes into his 3rd season of Factorio and still doesn't know how belts work.
Exactly *83* not *less than* 83
you flunked.
Splitters are a concept his is completely unable to comprehend.
In the States it means you're a member of Congress.
I have a low iq and im a volunteer road safety co ordinator
i like how petersen doesnt let his guest get a word in edgewise
My IQ is 28 where I live, there’s snow on the ground too.
"to have an IQ of less than 90 means that you are unable to follow instructions" So everybody that buys from IKEA then?
Umm... have you seen assembly instructions lately? They are literally in another language or have no words at all. You can thank cheaply made in China products for that. Sometimes you need an IQ of 200 just to decipher what the hell is in the instructions. It certainly isn't English.
@@vanillacokejunky another ikea-shopper i see
You just wouldn't care about IKEA, so it would have to be their problem.
Jordan speaks from experience.
If your views on an individual are shaped by repeat public mudslinging to ruin the reputation of said person then you might be a part of the 16%. Sincerely, learn to think for yourself. 💯
@@abandonedamerica6571 is that you Jordan? You make as much sense as him. Hope you didn’t cry typing up that word salad.
@@jussysheart If you think that's a word salad then you're even dumber than I thought.
Peterson is a legend
It means ..... absolute blisssssss
Knew quite a couple of people with learning difficulties, struggled reading a letter, kicked my ass in woodwork, physical activities etc. Some people find it difficult to express themselves academically, but express themselves perfectly in a physical environment and in a normal social situation without trying to sound intelligent. The messages come across. The feelings are the same and you can connect. Yes, when it comes to certain things, there is a struggle more often than one is used to, but everyone has that feature about them, whether it's often or less. It's the way things are.
I've also met a lot of ïntelligent and educated" people. People who could score straight A's in university, but didn't know the difference between a cucumber and a zucchini.
@@shongololo7850 Being intelligent doesnt mean you know everything.
Yes, but then your intelligence test is flawed. This video is mentioning a group that is also struggling at that level.
It isn't , you suck at reading / mind things and are good at physical things or good in a very specific field.
The problem is that our whole society is becoming so complex that for a growing part of the population it is very hard to participate, not get taken advantage of or be mechanized/automated out of work.
And these people aren't happy simple lives. They know they struggle compared to others. The bar is just that much higher for them.
@@melanp4698Being intelligent means you know you don't know everything.
@@troyberdahl5922 While I agree with the point, I kinda disagree with the statement. I'd call that Wisdom.
Wisdom is your total, compiled knowledgebase. Intelligence is your mental capacity to understand, use and apply your knowledge.
A chinese rice farmer could be the most intelligent person on the planet, but if he's illiterate and never went to school a single day, he will never reach his potential.
Awesome conversation. It’s important that there isn’t an elitist view point on things. These two guys are doing it right
It's cute that you think Jordan Peterson doesn't consider himself an Elitist...
Take it from someone in the top 1%. We have a hard time understanding how those beow 135 can survive in this modern society. It was not until I adopted a child with ADHD and Aspegers that I came to realize how hard it was for the majority of people to deal with a more and more technical world, if not imposible. I grew up in a tracked educational environment and spent my entire puplic school experience with the same thirty people, We never had to interface with the 'NORMAL' students. We continued on in higher education in the honors schools of our chosen fields of study. Still never having to experience the context of the 'NORMAL EDUCIONAL EXPERIENCE'. The rude awakening came when we entered the real world of work and had to interface with employees that we could not understand the lack of mental ability there in.
Over fifty years of being an owner and manager, I experienced a steady decline in the mental capacity of those entering the workforce. I pity those reponsible for the productivity of the future. I fear for the future of all.
There is a lot of research for improving IQ by training,even if later it proves impossible the demand is so enormous it will be tried a lot.
I will lift people from extreme poverty and thanks to this video I have one more massive issue i need to solve.
How the hell you train someone with low iq to get a high paying skill (software programmer for example ) ? Is everyone on extreme poverty for 10+ years dumb or it is just a resource issue ( education and capital to be uplifted) ?
I’m dumb enough to be happy instead of worrying about things that I can do nothing about.