The NFL made a stupidly specific rule after a toeless kicker's record-setting field goal

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  • Опубліковано 5 чер 2018
  • Despite being born without toes on his dominant foot, Tom Dempsey kicked a 63-yard field goal, which was a record for 43-years. It was a last second, game winning kick to lead the Saints past the Lions, but not everyone liked it. Thanks to Cowboys president and GM Tex Schramm, the NFL adjusted its rulebook so anyone without a full foot didn't have an "advantage."
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  • @troubledjoe6201
    @troubledjoe6201 4 роки тому +6861

    The NFL is lack-toes intolerant.....

  • @williamjackson3582
    @williamjackson3582 4 роки тому +2642

    Imagine being so good at something in a sport that it's league has to write in a new rule because of you.

    • @thebigbear4696
      @thebigbear4696 4 роки тому +33

      Bob Gibson has those feels

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 4 роки тому +49

      Michael Phelps: so good at swimming that the sports governing body banned his swimming costume

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 4 роки тому +45

      Wilt Chamberlain and George Mikan and the wider lane in the NBA= yep..

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 4 роки тому +10

      @@thebigbear4696, the mound height reduction in '69..yes..

    • @10Peter25
      @10Peter25 4 роки тому +30

      There's the Mel Blount Rule that outlaws bump-and-run coverage farther than five yards away from the line of scrimmage because of how Mel manhandled receivers. And how about the Lew Alcindor Rule that banned dunks in college basketball games for a few years because of how Lew (later Kareem Abdul-Jabbar) embarrassed so many opponents by dunking over them?

  • @KnoxCarbon
    @KnoxCarbon 6 років тому +7669

    Because there's nothing more damaging to a man's ego than knowing a cripple did something better than them.

    • @eatfacer8993
      @eatfacer8993 6 років тому +98

      Like Brolylegs ruining people in fighting game competitions.

    • @ilickyourtoesatnight9535
      @ilickyourtoesatnight9535 5 років тому +7

      Oofed

    • @kyrlics6515
      @kyrlics6515 5 років тому +11

      @Fast Internet that would be a reason why he's doing it other than being gay. Doesn't mean he wants to, just means mommy told him.yo.

    • @CarlosSanchez-en6mr
      @CarlosSanchez-en6mr 5 років тому +35

      It’s probably so people won’t purposely do something to themselves to make them “better” in the sport area
      Yea, this guy was born that way
      But maybe someone else may cut their own foot to do the same
      I think this is what they are trying to prevent

    • @obi-wankenobi9871
      @obi-wankenobi9871 5 років тому +81

      While the rule is technically fair it just really sucks. A guy with half a foot (running with half a foot is really hard) manages to get good enough to play in the NFL and then the only small advantage he has instantly gets negated by a new rule, that only applies to him.

  • @error-dc2ox
    @error-dc2ox 6 років тому +1547

    Tall people should be banned from basket ball then because they have a natural advantage.

    • @Ryan-yu5kt
      @Ryan-yu5kt 5 років тому +38

      Being tall isnt a piece of equipment dumbass. If a basketball player only had one arm, and he had a prosthetic arm that calculates how to make every basket, then it should be banned. THAT is a valid comparison, not your stupid comment

    • @dolphindrawings9331
      @dolphindrawings9331 3 роки тому +200

      @@Ryan-yu5kt Somebody is offended

    • @Ryan-yu5kt
      @Ryan-yu5kt 3 роки тому +8

      @@dolphindrawings9331 You got me

    • @alexandruseizu5465
      @alexandruseizu5465 3 роки тому +156

      @@Ryan-yu5kt you are a hysterical moron. he had a shoe that fits to his foot, same like a helmet for a big and squared head like yours.

    • @commander8625
      @commander8625 3 роки тому +28

      @@alexandruseizu5465 The big thing, however, is that his shoe allowed him to kick the ball differently, thus giving him a large advantage. Its weird, but his abnormalities gave him a huge advantage.

  • @cronoros
    @cronoros 6 років тому +2289

    Ye should have included the direct quote from Dempsey which essentially amounted to "cut their toes off and see how they like it"

    • @dwagon41
      @dwagon41 6 років тому +6

      Think during the first dorktown Jon pretty much said chart party was done.

    • @demondog7505
      @demondog7505 6 років тому +5

      Conor O'Shea g

    • @mangcrow5738
      @mangcrow5738 5 років тому +9

      Bro try kicking a football with a square shoe instead of a pointed one. I guarantee it will go farther.

    • @tiny_toilet
      @tiny_toilet 4 роки тому +49

      @@mangcrow5738 I guarantee it won't since you still can't kick with the front of the shoe unless you're missing half your foot.

    • @BartBasquiato
      @BartBasquiato 4 роки тому +27

      @@tiny_toilet you ever played soccer? The people who don't know how to play kick w their toes.. it can make you kick further but you have no control as if you were to kick it w the side or lace part of your foot. In soccer there's soccer shoes w a pointy end & others w a square (not completely square) shape at the end.. so you could use the square looking ones to have more surface when you hit the ball

  • @empaynster925
    @empaynster925 4 роки тому +319

    The weird rule of this show is that Ryan will not tell the story unless the guest says they want to hear it

    • @naverilllang
      @naverilllang 3 роки тому +39

      I wanna see the video now where someone says no

    • @i_hate_handles602
      @i_hate_handles602 3 роки тому +10

      That is the apex of weird rules, where they have to make a weird rule for the show weird rules

    • @pissfrog
      @pissfrog 3 роки тому +5

      Ryan is a story vampire. Or a weird subculture of fae.

  • @tennisdude52278
    @tennisdude52278 4 роки тому +551

    If anything, Prater’s record should have an asterisk because he was kicking in the much thinner air of Denver.

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 4 роки тому +50

      And, if he mis-kicks it it will not be slow enough to self correct or spin-correct. That is why in DENVER, you either make it, or you miss long ones badly, worse than you do at sea level= the speed of the ball and its spin.

    • @dallasbrubaker6054
      @dallasbrubaker6054 3 роки тому +2

      Yadda, yadda, yadda

    • @ntdscherer
      @ntdscherer 3 роки тому +10

      Kickers from other teams are welcome to come break the record in Denver. ;-)

    • @jameswatson6732
      @jameswatson6732 3 роки тому +14

      @@ntdscherer He also gets to train there, kickers in lower altitudes such as New Orleans or San Francisco don't have that advantage

    • @asonofliberty3662
      @asonofliberty3662 3 роки тому +2

      @@jameswatson6732 damn I guess your guys suck that bad huh. Got any more excuses

  • @AllenHanPR
    @AllenHanPR 3 роки тому +590

    Imagine creating a rule for the disabled because they excelled at something.

    • @ioangogov2993
      @ioangogov2993 3 роки тому +24

      Well if you try to set a record for most pull ups and you dont have legs you are at a huge advantage,40% less weight

    • @sarowie
      @sarowie 3 роки тому +32

      this is a "pretty normal" dilemma in the special Olympics/paralimbics. There is "sweet spot" of amputation/disability in each category and it is hard to resolve.
      Also with running: Prosthetic legs/sprinters can be faster then "normal" sprinters - so prosthetics are not allowed in "normal" competition.
      But for the "normal sport": You do not want to look up a graph of world records and drug testing correlation.

    • @Iam0ne1
      @Iam0ne1 3 роки тому +8

      @@ioangogov2993 so it’s his advanced, then no man should hold a record cause males higher strength. This is just the mass able bodied people discriminating against the minority disabled people.

    • @Volkbrecht
      @Volkbrecht 3 роки тому +3

      The thing is, they generally don't, not with the equipment everybody else has to use. Which is why they are called "disabled".
      Also, imagine what American Football with hammerboots for kickers would look like... sometimes it's just sensible to have equipment restrictions.

    • @CatacombD
      @CatacombD 3 роки тому +9

      @@Iam0ne1 The thing is, the video (jokingly) covered exactly why you need a rule like this. How do you deal with a situation where a person invents a prosthetic that is so superior that it renders standard humans obsolete? Hell, we actually already have that problem for running events, which is why prosthetic running legs are heavily tested/regulated so that they aren't *too* good, lest they become so dominant that the only way to win at the olympics would be to cut off your own legs.
      Ideally, we want prosthetics that offer performance equal to a regular human. No one wants to watch a swimming race where you have 9 contestants going barefoot, and then the last contestant gets to wear flippers.

  • @mcj88
    @mcj88 6 років тому +1624

    The kicker is (no pun intended):
    "When an analysis of his kick was carried out by ESPN Sport Science, it was found that his modified shoe had offered him no advantage - in fact, it was found that the smaller contact area could have reduced, not increased, the margin for error." -Wikipedia on Dempsey's "sledgehammer" boot

    • @gallyturndrop5320
      @gallyturndrop5320 6 років тому +79

      On the other hand, when you get into a routine like that, it basically only involves finding the exact sweet point on that shoe. Regular kickers have to line up their steps perfectly and find a sweet spot on the side of their foot, which is definitely a little bit harder than being able to go straight on. That creates a little bit of an advantage for him.

    • @gallyturndrop5320
      @gallyturndrop5320 6 років тому +50

      How so? If you memorize the exact spot on the shoe where it can be hit well, you have no problem. Regular kickers have exact steps they have to follow, on top of hitting that spot. It is all a routine.

    • @gallyturndrop5320
      @gallyturndrop5320 6 років тому +45

      The bottom line is that the soccer style kickers (and even straight-on kickers for that matter) don't have a hard piece of whatever in their shoe to hit the ball. Dempsey does. That is a piece of equipment that is not necessarily needed, as it was said that he was a barefoot kicker before the shoe anyway. The shoe gave an advantage so they took it away. This didn't just say, "screw disabled players." It was setting a precedent for future instances of this happening.

    • @nonsensecrusade2741
      @nonsensecrusade2741 5 років тому +3

      >kicking strait isn't easier

    • @reyanshpatel757
      @reyanshpatel757 5 років тому +9

      dar'man beskar Ordo Both of your arguments fly in the face of modern physics, dummies. While it is true that larger contact area will reduce margin of error for the kick, your wood generate more power than your bone b/c it is more powerful and harder. What would you rather be hit by. A femur or a plywood. I know, a femur. This man had all advantages evened out b/c he had hard wood but larger contact area. therefore he is fine. however, i know this because i took JEE (scored sargent rank and top 5000) and played cricket. for you americans, imagine hitting a baseball with a bat or a bone hand. which one gets the home run, i know, the bat. dar'man, you sir, must not speak about topics of which you proclaim to have knowledge on, but have none at all.

  • @dizziedylan
    @dizziedylan 6 років тому +8559

    Guess we should ban people with good genetics too. It's unfair that they have an advantage.

    • @njackson6807
      @njackson6807 6 років тому +558

      Let's just make the damn thing communist and force everyone to be equal. Quarterback has great accuracy? Remove his eye. Wide receiver talented at making catches? Chop his arm off, etc.

    • @x2ceyez
      @x2ceyez 6 років тому +394

      Head coach winning too many games? Lobatamy

    • @notthatyouasked6656
      @notthatyouasked6656 6 років тому +77

      See Kurt Vonnegut's story "Harrison Bergeron"...

    • @Patrick-ic7vg
      @Patrick-ic7vg 6 років тому +5

      N Jackson wasn’t that a book?

    • @liammcelroy3741
      @liammcelroy3741 6 років тому +57

      I swear if OBJ had only one arm there would already be a rule that a player must have 2 arms, especially since the Giant are rivals with Dallas.

  • @thinkcivil1627
    @thinkcivil1627 4 роки тому +83

    I saw Dempsey kick for the Eagles when they played the Vikings at MN in the early 70s. Before the game, he was crushing kicks from increasingly longer distances as he warmed up. As the practice kicks got longer, the "smack" got louder. Even Vikings players were watching the show, and the crowd really got into it.

    • @thud9797
      @thud9797 8 місяців тому

      The sound from the 63-yard kick was shocking. A stunned Alex Karras told Saint receiver Danny Abramowicz after that Dempsey didn't kick that ball, God did. 😀

  • @bernie2231
    @bernie2231 3 роки тому +37

    I remember watching Tom Dempsy in the '70s, when he was on the Eagles. I saw him make many tackles on opposing returns. He was not just a kicker, he was a football player.

    • @glorkYT
      @glorkYT Рік тому +2

      that's so inspirational. missing the one part of the body a kicker needs and is STILL the best

  • @B3Band
    @B3Band 6 років тому +3892

    Select guy born without half of his foot still somehow manages to become a kicker is a problem, but breaking the record at mile high altitude doesn't get an asterisk. Cool.

    • @thatboijay3268
      @thatboijay3268 6 років тому +24

      Blood Bath and Beyond - Pop Goes Metal Covers I️t wasn’t I️t Denver he just played for Denver when he broke the record

    • @liammcelroy3741
      @liammcelroy3741 6 років тому +119

      That boi JAY first of all, it was in Denver, but what someone just pointed out to me that it was very cold, which basically negates the advantage from the altitude.

    • @thatboijay3268
      @thatboijay3268 6 років тому +1

      Liam Mcelroy it wasn’t in dever dude 😂 im a bronco fan I know this look it up it was against the Tennessee Titans in Tennessee.

    • @thatboijay3268
      @thatboijay3268 6 років тому +184

      Liam Mcelroy wait nvm I’m sleep it was in Denver 💀💀

    • @Supersaintsfan
      @Supersaintsfan 6 років тому +97

      Dempsey hit that field goal in New Orleans witch btw is like 20ft below sea level not to mention this was before the super dome they play in Tulane stadium (outdoors) so I think the Tom Dempsey field goal was more impressive

  • @IllaMatik222
    @IllaMatik222 6 років тому +274

    "Damn I wish I was better at kicking with all these TOES in the way."

  • @michaelhill3700
    @michaelhill3700 5 років тому +220

    "Which half?" The front half. That's right, he kept his toes in a jar.

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 4 роки тому +4

      He was born without them, and righthand fingers..
      And, he died of COVID this weekend..
      Now, don't you feel like you are STORED HIGHER IN TRANSIT?

    • @dustinpeterson6511
      @dustinpeterson6511 4 роки тому +7

      Michael Hill you never know, maybe he kept the left half

    • @michaelhill3700
      @michaelhill3700 4 роки тому +1

      @@dustinpeterson6511 ahhh. True.

  • @DissociatedWomenIncorporated
    @DissociatedWomenIncorporated 6 років тому +169

    If the record's since been broken by someone with a full foot, clearly the rule should be reverted. The only part of the rule that even makes sense is maybe rounding the front of the shoe, there's no point having a hollow space in there, it'll put any future players with the same condition at an unfair disadvantage. It'd be like playing in clown shoes.

    • @KoiSpain0
      @KoiSpain0 2 роки тому +14

      It took nearly 50 years for two players to beat that record, during which the approach to how players train, perform and even live to become as capable as possible has changed. A guy with a sledgehammer for a leg needed no more training than the rest at his time to absolutely crush the competition. Makes sense?

    • @DissociatedWomenIncorporated
      @DissociatedWomenIncorporated 2 роки тому +15

      @@KoiSpain0 wait why do you think this is akin to a guy having a sledgehammer for a leg? He had a prosthetic lump of plastic, not a cybernetic foot-cannon.

    • @KoiSpain0
      @KoiSpain0 2 роки тому +13

      @@DissociatedWomenIncorporated because of the way feet work. if you've ever played any sport involving kicking, you'd know that you need a lot of force to "whack" the ball far, but using the tip of the shoe to kick the ball transforms the most weight into the ball. the only drawback to this is that your toes aren't solid blocks, but rather small conjunctions of bones that have no rigidity when being pushed upon from above. if you somehow managed to bypass this issue, you could easily convert all the kicking energy into the ball. if you have a deformity that somehow doesn't let you fairly compete with the rest, then it's not fair to give yourself an advantage.

  • @TheT0N1c
    @TheT0N1c 6 років тому +643

    The biggest Story Here is that Tom Dempsey was the only barefoot kicker who didnt have toe nail problems.
    Btw are the any specific rules about barefoot kicking?

    • @ianakers7359
      @ianakers7359 6 років тому +30

      ToN1c no players just outgrew it

    • @blackhawkswincup2010
      @blackhawkswincup2010 6 років тому +13

      Tony Franklin used to kick barefoot for the Eagles back in the 80s

    • @cvn6555
      @cvn6555 6 років тому +12

      Crazy. Saw him at training camp kicking them from the opposite goal line. Of course the trajectory would be too low to clear opposing players but it was impressive.

    • @jonashelmke2564
      @jonashelmke2564 6 років тому +12

      I'd say there's almost certainly going to be some rule mandating footwear if only for safety reasons.

    • @zachbeckham6520
      @zachbeckham6520 6 років тому +6

      Jonas Helmke youd be surprised. Barefoot kicking just fell out of favor despite being quite popular in the 80's

  • @qspencer8137
    @qspencer8137 4 роки тому +108

    R.I.P The legend Tom Dempsey❤️❤️❤️

  • @redram5150
    @redram5150 3 роки тому +24

    "I think its wrong that guy has the record. He has an advantage!"
    **Record is broken in, of all places, Denver

    • @matsumoku1
      @matsumoku1 2 роки тому

      There was plenty of time for people to bring up the "grievance" of Tom having an advantage, but they didn't. In the law. we call this a "waiver". NFL handled this correctly.

  • @Paul-fp3qn
    @Paul-fp3qn 4 роки тому +50

    May he rest in peace. He was an inspiration to many of us, and he will not be forgotten.

  • @SimuLord
    @SimuLord 6 років тому +915

    Rocket-powered sledgehammer? That's less football and more super mutants playing polo.

    • @stllbreathnbut_y1844
      @stllbreathnbut_y1844 6 років тому +16

      Fox D I’d pay to see it

    • @OmegaBlakX
      @OmegaBlakX 6 років тому +39

      *"PUNY HUMANS! THIS IS A REAL SPORT!"* Super Mutant says while smashing a skull with a Super Sledge.

    • @JoelStephens87
      @JoelStephens87 6 років тому +6

      Stupid humans would never match a super mutant

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 6 років тому +3

      Rocket powered sledgehammer foot is a beautiful mental image.

    • @insertfunnyname3478
      @insertfunnyname3478 6 років тому +2

      Fox D I like fallout references

  • @TheBuckman7989
    @TheBuckman7989 4 роки тому +29

    RIP Tom Dempsey. Forever a legend.

  • @roshango125ab
    @roshango125ab 4 роки тому +28

    As I type this Tom Dempsey passed away yesterday at the age of 63. RIP you legend. You may be gone but you and your special foot will live forever in the rule book

  • @MsShortstuff333
    @MsShortstuff333 4 роки тому +31

    R.I.P. Mr. Dempsey. A Saints Legend.

  • @Jeterfan906
    @Jeterfan906 6 років тому +1284

    He broke it in Denver, everything done there deserves an asterisk.

    • @Nick-dq8tf
      @Nick-dq8tf 6 років тому +221

      He made a 59 yd field in Chicago a few years back with quite a bit of room to spare. He kicked a 76 yd field goal during practice at the pro bowl. He can make a 64 yd field goal anywhere, it's just getting the chance is hard

    • @KleyDeJong
      @KleyDeJong 6 років тому +66

      I believe he could make it. But do you think the air in Denver isn't relevant? Thinner air = less resistance = further distance?

    • @liammcelroy3741
      @liammcelroy3741 6 років тому +10

      Kley De Jong that is exactly how it works

    • @caseyryan1
      @caseyryan1 6 років тому +14

      Jeterfan906 Gostkowski made a 63 yarder in Mexico City last season

    • @liammcelroy3741
      @liammcelroy3741 6 років тому +48

      InfinityArch Mexico City has an even higher altitude that Denver.

  • @hieronymusnervig8712
    @hieronymusnervig8712 6 років тому +427

    If it was a rule prohibiting the shape of an actual prosthetic, like having an artificial leg with a sledgehammer on the end, I could actually understand that.
    But prohibiting FITTING shoes for a person with an unnaturally formed foot...
    That's like forbidding someone from playing basketball just because he is higher than 2m

    • @gallyturndrop5320
      @gallyturndrop5320 6 років тому +15

      What? That makes no sense. His equipment was specially made to give him the ability to kick those field goals better than he was doing barefoot. He was able to do it barefoot, but it was obvious that the shoe gave him better results. Also, he wasn't banned from football, he just had to find a different way to kick.

    • @hieronymusnervig8712
      @hieronymusnervig8712 6 років тому +87

      No sir, YOU make no sense because that's the reason ANY shoes are used in sports, he didn't have any more of an unfair advantage than what his genetics gave him.
      They didn't tell him to find a "different way to kick" they told him that he was only allowed to use boots that didn't fit.
      Maybe you don't understand that Basketball example so here's a better one:
      Imagine every boot had to have the same size: then all players would have to find a different way to run or would have to play barefoot.
      As I said, disallowing artificial legs that have certain gadgets that give an advantage is good, disallowing someone from using fitting footwear just because he has no toes is really, really bad.

    • @gallyturndrop5320
      @gallyturndrop5320 6 років тому +6

      Wearing fitted shoes is fine, but if they obviously provide the purpose of helping you in a specific task within the game, that is where it gets iffy. I am positive the NFL was not trying to spite this man, they were just trying to set a precedent for future cases. Again, he did kick barefoot, but that shoe was SPECIFICALLY designed to help him kick field goals. That is why the NFL could not allow him to use it.

    • @hieronymusnervig8712
      @hieronymusnervig8712 6 років тому +24

      Maybe it was actually made in a way that would further help him in his kicking but forcing him to use shoes that do not conform to his feet is just stupid lobbyism trying to get and advantage over a team that got natural talent.

    • @gallyturndrop5320
      @gallyturndrop5320 6 років тому +3

      I am positive he could still use shoes that form to his feet but it is obvious that he had a little piece of a hard object in there that could be used to help him get the kicks up. You can see that in online pictures of his shoe.

  • @Darkash150
    @Darkash150 4 роки тому +20

    RIP Tom Dempsey, thanks to this video i know who he was

  • @alibi2k289
    @alibi2k289 2 роки тому +10

    Who's here after Justin Tucker 66 yard field gold🤯😤😤

  • @DN_13
    @DN_13 6 років тому +100

    The guy on the right took Quaaludes before the taping.

    • @bobbob465
      @bobbob465 6 років тому +1

      I thought he was doing his best to imitate early Joe Buck.

    • @scenepointjudge
      @scenepointjudge 5 років тому +2

      Took too many quaaludes*

    • @rickyrick5586
      @rickyrick5586 5 років тому +1

      Probably opiates

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 4 роки тому +1

      He's definitely low-key.

  • @georgeorwell4534
    @georgeorwell4534 4 роки тому +7

    Tom Dempsey is one of the nicest guys in the world. Good natured and was gracious when his record was broken in Denver.

  • @Ted_DiSanti
    @Ted_DiSanti 4 роки тому +8

    "Which half"? 😂 Mike should really be in more of the newer SB Nation videos, his approach to humor is great!

  • @Sai4651
    @Sai4651 5 років тому +104

    This is a perfect example of a Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUE) which is something that is used for athletes who have a physical disability. TUE's are basically tools/treatments that are allowed for an athlete to use if they have a condition that gives them a disadvantage. However, the TUE must only bring them back to an even playing field, not a single level above it. Nobody would be giving Tom Dempsey credit for this achievement if he had a bionic leg. TUE's are studied heavily in order to see if they indeed give an athlete an advantage. I believe the NFL was reasonable for creating these rules, this isn't about banning players with disabilities, it's about making the game fair for everyone. Now, given the time, I highly doubt they did the research to determine if he did have an advantage.

    • @sarowie
      @sarowie 3 роки тому +5

      by grandfathering him in, the transition is somewhat "smooth" as any aspiring kicker without toes (never born with or lost in accident) now "starts" or rehabilitates with this rule in mind, while he after years of professional training and experience did not have to relearn his craft.

    • @henrymccoy2306
      @henrymccoy2306 3 роки тому +2

      @@bobjohnson7020 Exactly. Imagine all the teenagers out there who considered cutting off their toes to get to his level. People are comparing to banning tall people but becoming taller artificially is not as easy as taking some prunes to your toes.

    • @ianjacka469
      @ianjacka469 3 роки тому

      @@henrymccoy2306 How would you become artificially taller? The only way I know of is to get those leg lengthening operations like they get in China, which only give you extra inches and are insanely painful.

    • @henrymccoy2306
      @henrymccoy2306 3 роки тому +1

      @@ianjacka469 exactly. It’s an awkward, ineffective procedure that wouldn’t get the job done and is too expensive for most to even consider. Garden shears to the toes however might just work looking at this guys kick

    • @Nekufan1000000
      @Nekufan1000000 3 роки тому

      @@ianjacka469 The problem I see with the comparison is that while our kicker was born without his toes and a person would need to lose theirs to match his needs, a person doesn't need to lose anything to gain height through a mechanism. I'll do basketball in platform shoes that give me an extra six inches. It'll be awkward, I'll have to train harder, but I'll go from, basketball height here not my real height, a player of 6 foot 6, to 7 feet even. A shoe with a flat front could reasonably be made for other NFL kickers. The real question is if that actually helped anyone, and I think that's something you could take to a science lab. Test normal kicks with normal shoes vs ones with a flat front to them and see if a flat-ended kick gets you more distance. We all know that a player using platform shoes, given they train in them, would have a notable advantage, but there's a huge question mark on how useful this guy's modified shoe actually was. That's the real problem.

  • @jol6817
    @jol6817 6 років тому +307

    Not really relevant, but when I was in youth football I played against a team that was coached by Tom Dempsey. But that was... 21 years ago?

    • @cameraman1234567890a
      @cameraman1234567890a 6 років тому +38

      That’s actually really cool

    • @zachbeckham6520
      @zachbeckham6520 6 років тому +7

      Dopeeeee

    • @coolguy02536
      @coolguy02536 6 років тому +4

      Now THAT...is a coincidence.

    • @omarkhan5223
      @omarkhan5223 6 років тому +19

      Damn right that's not relevant. Keep you weird stories to yourself! On that note let me tell you something relevant, when I was 13, I played against a team that was coached by Kevin Hughart, who is he you may ask, he was none other than the generic man who coached the other team.

    • @jeffw1267
      @jeffw1267 4 роки тому +4

      Did his team KICK your ass?

  • @theshawshankinception1220
    @theshawshankinception1220 6 років тому +45

    Love this story. Also do a weird rule on Robert Di Vincenzo’s 1963 Masters scorecard blunder.

  • @brianchieffo2427
    @brianchieffo2427 4 роки тому +11

    Rest in piece Tom Dempsey

  • @maa4747
    @maa4747 4 роки тому +11

    R.I.P Tom Dempsey

  • @AnotherStatsGuy
    @AnotherStatsGuy 6 років тому +36

    If you're going for weird and obvious rule patches, the Trent Tucker rule about jumpshots requiring 0.3 seconds has to be on there. (Never mind that's it's basically moot in the era of HD/4k replays.)

  • @fasteddie9970
    @fasteddie9970 6 років тому +722

    A stupidly specific rule? Hmm... trying to think if they’ve done that again recently..

    • @jasonmatteson9909
      @jasonmatteson9909 6 років тому +4

      FAST EDDIE they haven't

    • @weeman5697
      @weeman5697 6 років тому +180

      Hmmm I just can’t seem to put my kne- I mean finger on it

    • @thespongemonkey
      @thespongemonkey 6 років тому +63

      I don't seem to CATCH your meaning...... I'm not sorry.

    • @saveusjay
      @saveusjay 6 років тому +33

      The Sponge Monkey He’s not talking about the catch rule. He’s talking about the anthem rule.

    • @thespongemonkey
      @thespongemonkey 6 років тому +25

      They both work tho.

  • @hustonswanson4106
    @hustonswanson4106 3 роки тому +6

    "Imagind having a commissioner that was cool" we all felt that.

  • @jackashmore
    @jackashmore 4 роки тому +36

    Coach: it’s a 60 yard field goal, I don’t think anyone can make that....
    Dempsey: hold me toes

  • @spartus
    @spartus 4 роки тому +10

    RIP- just passed away in CORVID-19 ...2020...

  • @tannhauser7584
    @tannhauser7584 3 роки тому +6

    Oddly, that new rule doesn't apply to Tom Dempsey. He didn't have an "artificial limb on his kicking leg". Also, his kicking shoe was not "modified". It was custom built.

  • @t4texastomjohnnycat978
    @t4texastomjohnnycat978 4 роки тому +5

    R.I.P. Tom Dempsey🏈

  • @GiDD504
    @GiDD504 3 роки тому +1

    He’s still loved by all of Louisiana. Legend. Rip. 😔⚜️

  • @abudietrich
    @abudietrich 6 років тому +783

    So what was the guy on the right in the video there for?

    • @jrupp2823
      @jrupp2823 6 років тому +99

      literally

    • @tmage23
      @tmage23 6 років тому +377

      audience surrogate.

    • @SimuLord
      @SimuLord 6 років тому +189

      SBNation likes to do this, where they'll use two people to tell a story that's best told by one person and a bunch of pretty good graphics.

    • @tomstoughton
      @tomstoughton 6 років тому +70

      his wonderful comedic timing and ability.... lol

    • @logan_nowicki
      @logan_nowicki 6 років тому +148

      The premise of the series is two guys sharing stories. One acts like the knowledgeable one sharing the story and the other is the (slightly) interested person learning about it.

  • @austingessner8269
    @austingessner8269 6 років тому +5

    I use to kick in high school and I had a “ Tom Dempsey” cleat because I was a straight on kicker as well and it was amazing how much more range I got. My furthest kick in a game was 38 yards and my furthest in practice was a 55 yard field goal.

  • @richardmaska1818
    @richardmaska1818 5 років тому +2

    Mike's gesture at 1:14 is seriously the funniest way I've ever seen someone say 'yes' in my entire life.

  • @vastyandrews2631
    @vastyandrews2631 3 роки тому +2

    4:38 😂😂😂😂😂😂
    OMG this guy is hilarious

    • @victormedeiros3408
      @victormedeiros3408 3 роки тому +1

      "NEVER liked that dude, I've just found recently (5 seconds ago)..."

  • @SamOrthodoxy
    @SamOrthodoxy 4 роки тому +3

    R.I.P. Tom Dempsey. I literally found out about him from this video right now, clicked on a news website, saw he died. I'm speechless.

  • @craigpaulson3503
    @craigpaulson3503 4 роки тому +4

    I lost the front of my right foot due to Squamous cell carcinoma. Dempsey's 63 yard FG means a lot to me for obvious reasons. Here's the kicker(pun intended)... Dempsey set the record against the Lions and I've been a huge Lions fan all of my life.

  • @vambo13257
    @vambo13257 4 роки тому +2

    I worked with Tom years after he retired, a great guy!

  • @rafpach87
    @rafpach87 5 років тому +3

    I don't know what was the rule, but there was this time when Brazil lost on purpose to Bulgaria in the 2010 Volleyball Men's World Championship. Apparently, the path to the final for the team qualifying second was easier than the path for the team qualifying first. Maybe it's interesting for you to show - and I could finally understand.

  • @nover0570
    @nover0570 4 роки тому +6

    "I never liked that guy" LOL

  • @scastro41797
    @scastro41797 5 років тому

    I love this conversation because its just a good conversation.

  • @apbuggygaming
    @apbuggygaming 5 років тому +2

    To be fair, the 2013 record was kicked in Denver, which (the stadium) is ~a mile above sea level, meaning the air density was much thinner. This allows for the ball to travel easier. Supposedly, up to around 80 yard kicks have been attempted and made in practice, but I doubt we will see one any time soon in real play.

    • @reedr7142
      @reedr7142 6 місяців тому

      I think only one or two of the 63+ yard kicks have not been at Mile High Stadium.

  • @user-cz9jf1ec8s
    @user-cz9jf1ec8s 6 років тому +3

    "It looks like his toes have been photoshopped out"
    King of the Hill would be jealous of this one-liner

  • @FransLebin
    @FransLebin 6 років тому +7

    feels like an episode of Antiques Roadshow

  • @BiggestRedditor
    @BiggestRedditor 3 роки тому +1

    The way these two interact with each other feels like it could be a British comedy sketch. Just the deadpan monotone voice they use creates humor on its own.

  • @joekurtz8303
    @joekurtz8303 5 років тому +1

    He was one of the great kickers in his time, saw him at the pro bowl in 68.

  • @TheAlfrulz
    @TheAlfrulz 6 років тому +90

    The reason why the league cracked down on this was because they were afraid it would set a precedent where all straight on normal toed kickers would start wearing modified shoes with flat front surfaces and possibly more.
    I remember Al Davis of the raiders making a big stink about this, accusing Dempsey of using a metal plate in the front flat part of the shoe which was an advantage over rounded shoes. There's an article here that briefly talks about and has a picture of Dempsey with his shoe and more.
    sportslens.com/9-sportsmen-who-bent-the-rules-and-got-away-with-it/59697/
    Just shows you there are two sides to every story. It's not like the league wanted to punish Dempsey solely because he looked different.

    • @joenieuwendyk91
      @joenieuwendyk91 6 років тому +20

      Finally an intelligent person.

    • @fivesidedpixels4991
      @fivesidedpixels4991 6 років тому +14

      I was wondering if there was more to the story than the video let on. It's unfortunate, but an unfair advantange is still an advantage.

    • @Koolaidviewer
      @Koolaidviewer 5 років тому +12

      Its not really an advantage they showed it on sports sceince

    • @TheDevilRejectsNone
      @TheDevilRejectsNone 5 років тому +4

      "Solely..." made me laugh

    • @tygrkhat4087
      @tygrkhat4087 4 роки тому +2

      I have the NFL's 50th Anniversary book, The First 50 Years, and it has color plates showing the evolution of the uniform from the 20s to the 60s. One of the pictures is of Paul Hornung, who kicked for the Packers. He's shown wearing a shoe on his right foot with a squared off front. The accompaning text even says that he's wearing a special kicking shoe.

  • @BigShaneGillis
    @BigShaneGillis 6 років тому +12

    Guy brings a whole new meaning to the term “club foot”

  • @ryancade3829
    @ryancade3829 4 роки тому +1

    One such man who made people envy a disability

  • @5roundsrapid263
    @5roundsrapid263 6 років тому +2

    I grew up near New Orleans, and was always a Saints fan. This record was all we had until they won the Super Bowl!

  • @6thwilbury2331
    @6thwilbury2331 6 років тому +47

    Question: is Mike only pretending to have never heard of Tom Dempsey, or was he genuinely unfamiliar? For a guy like Mike, what with his extensive sports history knowledge, Dempsey (or the position of the goal posts, for that matter) should not be some obscure tidbit from NFL lore.

    • @leesalt
      @leesalt 4 роки тому +2

      6th Wilbury not only that but every kid with Scholastic book orders always got the Guinness Book of World Records. Dempsey was one of the first sports records I ever learned about from that book.

    • @krybling
      @krybling 4 роки тому +3

      well that he didnt understand the goal position means he has never seen a match from before the 1974, so yea lol

    • @dinamosflams
      @dinamosflams 4 роки тому

      He seems Very awkward and high

  • @wearethewhodatnation4123
    @wearethewhodatnation4123 6 років тому +16

    nfl even back then hating on our team sadly

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 6 років тому +1

      We Are The Who Dat Nation Yep. Hartley kicked the Saints into the Super Bowl, and the league changed the rules the next season!

    • @notoriousbig6199
      @notoriousbig6199 5 років тому +1

      And still hates you now lol

    • @mangcrow5738
      @mangcrow5738 5 років тому

      It is unfair to have a square when hitting something rather than a pointy shoe. Did no one pay attention is common sense class? It's also easier to kick with a square for obvious reasons.

    • @calo4_942
      @calo4_942 5 років тому +1

      @@mangcrow5738 also easier to walk with a full foot instead of a square

  • @douglaslatham9904
    @douglaslatham9904 4 роки тому +1

    A player in the Australian Football League, kicked the exact same style kick for a distance of 97metres back in the early 1900's when "place-kicking" was used in this league. It stands as the record to this day.

  • @cherylmajors9265
    @cherylmajors9265 4 роки тому +1

    I remember watching Tom Dempsey..he was awesome

  • @jaystrickland4151
    @jaystrickland4151 3 роки тому +3

    Tom Dempsey Taken by Covid, you will be missed sir.

  • @ngolakante5208
    @ngolakante5208 4 роки тому +5

    R.I.P Tom Dempsey to coronavirus

  • @owenshores3358
    @owenshores3358 4 роки тому +1

    This guy is like the guy who shows you what music he listens to and tries to get you obsessed with it

  • @FosukeLordOfError
    @FosukeLordOfError 3 роки тому

    I found this channel by accident and i love the energy.

  • @joshmontagne924
    @joshmontagne924 6 років тому +7

    look at that advantage 5 toes instead of 10 toes

    • @mangcrow5738
      @mangcrow5738 5 років тому

      The advantage was the fact that he was hitting with a square instead of a pointy shoe. Square exerts more force on the ball and is easier to kick with.

    • @willdawg0053
      @willdawg0053 4 роки тому

      Mang Crow r/woooosh?

  • @churdle92
    @churdle92 2 роки тому +3

    So the Lions were victim to dempsey’s 63 yarder, and now Justin Tucker’s 66 yarder

  • @sp3ctor20
    @sp3ctor20 4 роки тому

    The delivery of the line, "with half a foot" is for some reason one of the funniest things I've ever heard in my life. I'm not sure if its his cadence, or the set up perfectly complementing the line delivery (likely both), but bravo.

  • @unclecreepy9202
    @unclecreepy9202 5 років тому +1

    I think “Detachable Kicking Toe” was the B-Side of the King Missile’s single.

  • @nolanross4404
    @nolanross4404 6 років тому +20

    ncaa uniform rules

  • @Painfulpierre
    @Painfulpierre 5 років тому +64

    The way they interacted with each other in this video made me fell awkward.

    • @alicel2572
      @alicel2572 5 років тому +4

      Claude Pierre I had to shower afterward.

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 4 роки тому +1

      Imagine how they felt..

    • @b0zz1380y
      @b0zz1380y 4 роки тому +1

      How do you usually fall?

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 4 роки тому

      @@b0zz1380y, when I am in the Time Tunnel, Doug and I fall progressively or digressively..

    • @jeffk393
      @jeffk393 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah the whole format of this video is really strange

  • @danmaier2824
    @danmaier2824 3 роки тому +2

    Imagine being an NFL fan and not knowing about Tom Dempsey. My question is, how is this rule not a violation of the ADA?

    • @BuildHousing
      @BuildHousing 2 роки тому

      The ADA was passed in 1990, so the NFL’s rule predates it. They would probably win a challenge to it today on the grounds that it mandates uniform shoes for all kickers, irrespective of their foot shape.

  • @Kyle_Hessler
    @Kyle_Hessler 4 роки тому +1

    RIP Tom Dempsey 4/5/2020

  • @kylem9476
    @kylem9476 6 років тому +110

    Can you do Ultimate frisbee rules? They don’t have a referee and any player can call a foul... but yet it works!

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin 6 років тому +28

      K M It's because ultimate frisbee players are so crescent fresh.

    • @PRIZOOMY
      @PRIZOOMY 6 років тому +16

      K M hi I play ultimate frisbee and I will argue it doesn’t work. The best games either have officials, or ‘observers’ who are able to make some active calls and overrule foul play.

    • @coast2coast00
      @coast2coast00 6 років тому +5

      Curling is similar, they have officials in competitions, but half the time when an official comes out with a ruling, both teams argue with them because the officials know less about the game than the players(and the players basically always play fair).

    • @EMETRL
      @EMETRL 5 років тому +4

      Curling doesn't count because it's almost exclusively played by Canadians. The last time I saw an argument in curling, it went something like this:
      "I think your stone is closer to the middle"
      "No I think YOUR stone is closer"
      "You sure? Let's get the official"
      *official isn't sure*
      "Alright, your stone is closer, let's move on"
      "No no no, YOUR stone is closer"
      for about 6 more minutes

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 5 років тому

      ​@@PRIZOOMY I agree, they have a single reff for the Ultimate league games in the MLU as it is called now as of late 2000's. I saw that league championship on TV in 2017 and now 2018.

  • @getraided9023
    @getraided9023 4 роки тому +3

    What dope thought having the field goal in front of the end zone was a good idea

  • @patrickcooke577
    @patrickcooke577 5 років тому +2

    soccer player here- kicking barefoot with the bony part of the top of your foot is incredibly powerful

    • @statealchemistkev
      @statealchemistkev 4 роки тому

      Its not soccer its football, and kicking a ball bare footed in general is more powerful then shooting with boots or something

    • @kvltizt
      @kvltizt 4 роки тому

      @@statealchemistkev It is soccer though, even if you don't like that name.

    • @statealchemistkev
      @statealchemistkev 4 роки тому

      Butter Johnson its not. Its called Football

    • @kvltizt
      @kvltizt 4 роки тому

      @@statealchemistkev Explain "calcio" for me then, please. :)

    • @statealchemistkev
      @statealchemistkev 4 роки тому

      Butter Johnson Calcio is football in italian..

  • @kalebpullis9494
    @kalebpullis9494 4 роки тому +1

    R.I.P to the man

  • @JoeMama-tp6cq
    @JoeMama-tp6cq 5 років тому +3

    Maybe it's to prevent players to cutting part of their foot off now that they know it can be used as an advantage.

  • @rayhs1984
    @rayhs1984 6 років тому +8

    In baseball you can't run the bases backwards because a guy kept stealing first base in a attempted double steal with a man on third.

    • @rayhs1984
      @rayhs1984 6 років тому +7

      Morgan Yes. There was a guy named Herman "Germany" Schaefer. He was on first and a teammate was on third. He stole 2nd hoping to draw the catchers throw for a double steal. It didn't work so he stole first. It again didn't work, so he stole 2nd again for a successful double steal. A few years later in 1920 the MLB wrote rule 7.08i saying that you could only steal bases counter-clockwise.

    • @SimuLord
      @SimuLord 6 років тому +7

      That's a great story, now tell it in a way that takes 10 minutes and involves someone sitting across a table from you.

    • @rayhs1984
      @rayhs1984 6 років тому +2

      Fox D this video is 5 minutes, the rule wasn't written until after he retired and I think after he died, he died young there are available quotes from the first baseman who said that "I'm glad that the pitcher didn't throw it too me because I'd have dropped it." They have better research than me that could easily make a 5-10 minutes video on this.

    • @diggsfather
      @diggsfather 5 років тому

      Raymond Smith
      jean segura ended up stealing first in a failed run down against the cubs a few years back

  • @dumisa7
    @dumisa7 3 роки тому +2

    WTF - I didn't know this. When I was a kid we all marvelled at it. I remember being very proud of him. What a sh**heel ol' Tex was.

  • @EatScrabbleGoo
    @EatScrabbleGoo 3 роки тому

    So much more power is generated when the knee is coming through in line with the hip.

  • @hustler3of4culture3
    @hustler3of4culture3 4 роки тому +3

    His foot has half the mass of a normal foot so there's that

  • @thunderthrustable
    @thunderthrustable 5 років тому +3

    *Gimme Them Toes Boi*

  • @maxrona137
    @maxrona137 3 роки тому +2

    Denver is the "detachable kicking toe" of stadiums. If Dempsey has an asterisk, so does Prater

  • @wulfanator1938
    @wulfanator1938 4 роки тому +2

    RIP Tom Dempsey :(

  • @LavenderSystem69
    @LavenderSystem69 6 років тому +3

    How about NASCAR's Petty rule? That one's got a pretty interesting story behind it...

    • @I_Cypher
      @I_Cypher 6 років тому

      MGE Dawn what is it

  • @jonathanbroughtonreacts
    @jonathanbroughtonreacts 6 років тому +8

    Honestly, that really is an advantage...

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 4 роки тому

      No, it isn't.. ESPN'S SPORTS SCIENCE did a show on that and proved that Dempsey had a smaller margin for error, and distance was not affected.

    • @rinrin4711
      @rinrin4711 4 роки тому

      @@robertsprouse9282, they didn't take to an account that players can't kick with the full strength, because guess what? They will likely break their toes.

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 4 роки тому

      @@rinrin4711, but he still took a pounding on the ends of his feet everytime he pounded it, and the toes can flare off a little of that shock, the ends of the feet before toes with in his case NO TOES meant that he felt not only some pain, fleeting or not, in his feet, but a higher degree of jarring stress on his feet, legs, hips, back and torso, that toed kickers would not, and I am sure that wore his body down faster. And, the harder he kicked the more jarring it was, so I am sure he didn't always let it go full bore when he did not have to do that.

  • @michaelricci6839
    @michaelricci6839 6 років тому

    more of these, please!

  • @bradenrenner7161
    @bradenrenner7161 4 роки тому +2

    rest in peace brether

  • @valeriefolse9452
    @valeriefolse9452 6 років тому +20

    I'm a huge saints fan, tell your buddy that matt prater has the asterisk next to his name because he broke the record with a whole foot@!!! Dempsey will always hold the record for me lol

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 6 років тому

      Me too. My dad raised me on the Saints. He saw the kick live on TV! He passed soon after their Super Bowl, but got to see that, too. Who Dat!

    • @n9nealive816
      @n9nealive816 6 років тому +1

      Been a fan sence 06’ an been a huge fan of Dempsey sence

    • @CajunFyre92
      @CajunFyre92 5 років тому +1

      Always!! Dempsey for the win!!!

  • @briobrio6047
    @briobrio6047 5 років тому +3

    Advantage don’t have toes ...

  • @georgemallory797
    @georgemallory797 4 роки тому +1

    Great discussion.

  • @2opinionzpodcast352
    @2opinionzpodcast352 2 роки тому

    "i don't like that guy" i love it

  • @bfay2950
    @bfay2950 6 років тому +4

    He’s from scotch plains NJ we’re us the boys live