Revisiting the Apocrypha
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2021
- During the Reformation, Martin Luther and Protestant Christians argued that everyone should be able to read the Bible in his or her own language. When they went back to the Hebrew texts of the Old Testament, they realized that the Latin Christian Bible included a number of books that Jews did not consider scripture. The Reformers stripped these books from the canon, calling them the “Apocrypha” or hidden books. We'll take a look at these books that the Reformers hid away and consider why they made it into the early Christian canon and not the Jewish canon.
At 7:18, the lady who “heard a rumor” about Alexander the Great’s death, pretty sure that is Alexander’s still-living wife trying to solve his murder. She walks the earth seeking out the identity of Alexander’s “right hand man”
I fast forward the insipid comments and questions from the audience. Thank you for reinforcing my decision.
These lectures are fascinating but they would run more smoothly, if questions were left for after the main presentation.
I prefer the questions. Makes it more interactive and helps spark my thought process. Would def enjoy attending more as well.
So right!
I agree. The lecturer loses control of the momentum, and questioners tend to be seeking attention rather than contributing
I agree. Nothing wrong with questions that add to the lecture but you don't have to answer every darn thing when it's off topic. Subject matter is great presenter is brilliant but the lecturing style is awful because it feels out of control.
In academic settings, and society at large, wahamens cannot be checked in any way.
Please do questions at end. Thanks
Great job laying out a good overview of the entire region and flow of time.
Great Programming folks. God bless you all
I watch at least one of these every day. This one by far had my favorite moment. "Ooohhh that's big!!!" Yah granny thats how the Hamer drops.
I am incorporating the Book of Tobit into my DnD campaign. It's just too wonderful to use as story arch in my story about battling gods that have visited chaos in the world. Thank you, John, for introducing me to this extraordinary and wonderful narrative. It is awesome!
Is a betsameri ritual . Pagan
Haha. D&D inspiration is the number two reason I keep coming back here. It's so interesting.
I’m building a campaign called Canaan: 1000 B.C. The conceit is that all the gods are real, they muck around in human affairs, and everything pretty much happened like the Torah says.
Everyone will start at lvl 7 and be showered with magic items as they campaign, so the players feel really boss. The first mission, given by Ashera (among whose clerics is counted one of our party), is to steal the Nehustan from Sheol to aid her brother Baal’s bid for power; so that should set the tone.
The players will have the option to steal it for themselves, of course, which I hope they do. It would make writing the plot that much simpler: run from the vengeful goddess!
The lecture is Great cool ...It shows logically & big reason and why.I recommend
🌺thank you, i really enjoyed this lecture🌺
Really interesting lectures. Thanks for sharing. Would really enjoy hearing your thoughts on 'the immortality key' by Brian C. Muraresku
So I'm not religious, but I consider myself very spiritual. This is extremely thought provoking material and it fascinates me! Thank you for uploading!
It would only make sense for Loki to lecture on apocryphal works
Lol
Thank you from Argentina, again.
Names in Tobit: Tobias is probably Tobiah or Tuvia in Hebrew- "God is good". Raphael- is straight Hebrew- God heals" (totally appropriate). Other angel names are also Hebrew- Gabriel "God is my hero", Uriel "God is my light", Michael "who is like God".
When will you do a lecture on the book of Hebrews in relation to this
Simply amazing lectures and I enjoy having the questions immediately within the train of thought.
“Hidden” in this case means obscured. I offer an example. I’m going to make up a secret verse to illustrate. There are three layers to this. And this one is specifically non religious, but is spiritual.
An anchored ship cannot sail.
1. Literal. A ship that is anchored isn’t going anywhere. Looks outward to the physical world.
2. Metaphorically- I’m the ship. Sailing is life. Hanging on to my dead end job, lack of education, bad relationship, etc is holding me back. I need to let go of my fears in order to succeed to my fullest potential. Looks outward to the physical world.
3. Metaphorically- I’m the ship and sailing is life again. But this time, it’s about our soul, heart, life experiences. Inside of me, hanging on to anger, shame, judgement, prejudices, inner hurt, prevents us from living to our full potential no matter where we go in the physical world. This time, the verse is turned inward, to instruct healing.
What is hidden inside the magical verse, is the instructions to rid what we hide inside of us.
Sirac didn’t know layer three. He dismissed the surface layer.
Destroy your enemy
Sirac- kill those bad guys.
Jesus- kill what you carry inside of you that hurts you. Your real enemies are what you carry within you.
... meh ... This hermeneutic leads to a 'fracturing' of a narrative into an unrecognizable morass of conflicting interpretations.
The tried and true grammatical/historical hermeneutic is invaluable to stop this from occuring.
Very Gnostic. Harold Bloom would've enjoyed your disquisition.
Misprision = deliberate concealment of an enlightened idea,
the essence of Gnosticism.
@@vinm300 It is Gnostic. But that’s how I read Lau Tzu, The Buddha, Moses, Rumi, etc. They (authors) all knew this nesting process. It is revealed in their works. I don’t know why it isn’t more commonly known. It used to be.
It’s spiritual, or, seems most like it is psychological, with a ‘dynamic flow of life if you accomplish certain mental things’ included.
Jesus didn't put anything inside Him to death. He put His physical body to death. He is the bread we brake before we eat in order to reinforce the death of the flesh or death of the literal layer of interpretation.
@@AverageAmerican Literal is the metaphoric the Ark. Sounds like fifth grade Sunday School. Thanks for being one of the many called and carrying it.
The few chosen look inside.
One needs to enter the narrow gate with it. (Another metaphor)
Literal reading is purely mental laziness and is why we get 33,000 different denominations. Christians make God what they want. Removing the mote helps.
That is an amazing graphic about the time periods between the Bible Testaments, and I am too lazy to look all of that up so happy someone had the motivation to do it for me.
What about resurrection and heavenly reward being influenced by Egyptian theology or dying and rising sects?
Regarding your chart of the Apocrypha at 2 minutes into the video, KJV "2 Esdras" (Vulgate 4 Esdras) and 4 Maccabees are in neither the Russian OT canon nor the Greek OT canon. However, the Russians and Greeks do print these two books in their Bibles, leading many to mistakenly think that the Russians and Greeks consider these two books "canon," when this is not the case. The Greeks and Russians fix their canons based on the 7th Ecumenical Council, which does not include 2 Esdras or 4 Macc. as canon.
Not sure what the current policy on taking questions is, but am unconvinced on this format for having them sprinkled throughout the talk. At some points they derail the line of discourse; at others they just ask s/thing that's about to be answered anyway. OTOH, when they're addressed in a group at the end, is actually engaging & an enjoyable way to close the lecture.
*Thank you for BRINGING UP -- all of the *rewrites! (Time line items and so on!) Deceit is prevalent throughout! (?) *All is based upon SOCRATES! (Hellenistic venue of THOUGHT!) [ Acceptance by the existing ''cultures'' of the involved eras! **Peace .. (KEEP GOING!)
All questions and audience side comments should come at them end.
Thank you very much
Is Job the oldest book in the Bible?
From what I remember of Tobit, the aroma from the fish expels Asmodious from Sarah's body and into a state where Raphael can chase him down and seal him away at the bottom of the Nile.
This is a great lecture.
5:50 The Book of J (by Harold Bloom)
Bloom conjectures that J was a woman in the Court of Solomon,
and presents a fairly convincing argument. She wrote the key sections of Genesis
and parts of Exodus and Deuteronomy.
So J would've been writing after 586 BC (destruction of the 1st temple)
A brilliant historical journey clearly demonstrating that the 'old testament' canon we have today is a hotchpotch collection of writings - selected, edited and revised down through many centuries to try and create a consistent narrative out of inherently conflicting ideas and concepts. This is hardly a ringing endorsement of any divine inspiration. A similar process applies to the 'new testament' and this begs the question as to how much of the Bible actually reflects any divinely revealed truth.
That's the question each apologist and literalist ought to ask himself.
Hi there, you should read it to find out whether it seems divinely inspired,and then let us know what you think😊
@@shanonbarr6881 I wouldn't presume that I could determine the truth or divine inspiration of any of the Bible. I could only rely on faith, however given the vast number of opposing beliefs, sects and denominations within Christianity, faith alone is certainly no guarantee of truth.
Thanks for this video. I learned a lot from it and I believe it. God truly reveals to us what he wants us to know. I love this video thanks once more
You are so welcome!!
good overall history, though I never studied it myself. @22:00, it's stated that NT was never written in anything but greek, have to beg to differ as there are phrases scattered in NT that indicate it was originally in Hebrew/Aramatic and thus translated into greek. Just my understanding of the passages.
7:25 what on earth does that question have to do with this topic
The story of Judith is a retelling of Yael's story in the Judges.Why the Maccabees are not in the Jewish Bible?
Too nationalistic.
Supposedly the rabbis did not want people to start worshipping angels like pagans would do to deities as it detracted from God. I am not doing it justice, there are entire videos on the subject.
There is a Gabriel mentioned in the Book of Daniel.
Daniel 9: 21-22 - Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation. 22 And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding.
Not called an angel in the text but clearly a messenger (angel) of God.
just started watching, crazy it showed up recommended already being just uploaded and 150 views, 3 comments...
here before this hits 1m views lol
It is ideological (due to unbelief in prophecy) to date Daniel as late as the Maccabees in c.160 B.C. The Hebrew Bible cut off anything after c.350, when the Great Sanhedrin set by Ezra collected the OT scripture.
I used to hear about the 6th & 7th Books of Moses that were said to provide some formulae and rituals for working magic. Could these have existed or do they exist?
Sure they exist. They are magical Grimoires.
But they were definitely not written by Moses. Probably from the 18 hundreds, maybe include much more ancient parts .
You can find them for free online.
The presenter said that Psalm 151 was not included in the Canon because it was not found in the earliest manuscripts. But to clarify, Psalm 151 was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are our earliest Hebrew manuscripts today, and they were in the Septuagint, which are the earliest Christian-preserved manuscripts, albeit in Greek. However, when Jerome translated the Hebrew Bible into Latin, he did not include Psalm 151, and the rabbis did not consider it to be part of their canon. I am not sure which factions of Jews in the 1st century AD or earlier considered Psalm 151, or for that matter any of the rest of the Deuterocanon/Apocrypha, to be canonical.
The dead sea scrolls weren't the scrolls used to make the bible or better yet they werent used as the reference for the text that were put together to form what we call the holy bible
@Britt I don't think that we can know for sure at the moment whether the Dead Sea Scrolls were one of the sources that the ancient Jewish scholars used to compile the Bible, because modern scholars don't have a consensus on who exactly wrote and originally used the Dead Sea Scrolls. One common theory is that the official Temple priesthood of Onias' rightful, exiled Zadokite dynasty used the scrolls, which would imply that the scrolls did serve a purpose in the chain of Biblical scribal tradition.
In any case, I was responding to the presenter's claim that the reason that Psalm 151 was not put in the Biblical canon was because supposedly Psalm 151 was not in the earliest manuscripts. The presenter's argument doesn't solve the issue because: A. the earliest Christian manuscripts are the LXX, and the LXX does have Psalm 151, and B. the earliest archaeological preChristian manuscripts are the DSS, and the DSS does have Psalm 151, and C. the postChristian rabbinical manuscripts don't have Psalm 151, but this absence in itself doesn't explain why those postChristian rabbis left out Psalm 151 when it already existed at the time when those rabbis left it out. That is, the explanation in C. begs the question of why the postChristian rabbis left it out of their manuscripts. We can tell that Psalm 151 was missing from postChristian nonChristian Bible copies, but we don't know currently exactly what the preChristian scribes thought about Psalm 151, or whether they included it in preChristian Hebrew Bible canons.
In his book, Judaic Antiquities, volume 2, book 12, chapter 2, the famous historian Josephus Flavius, had described, in detail, the translation of the Jewish Laws. After Alexandru the Great, Ptolemeu Soter ruled Egipt for 40 years. After his rule, his son Philadelphos ruled Egipt for 39 years. In his time, Demetrios, the Chef Librarian made efforts to collect all books in the known world. Josephus said that in the king's library were more than 200 000 writings. At one moment Demetrios informed the king that Israelites have numerous books not translated into Greek language. So, with the approval of Philadelphos, a letter was sent to the Great Priest to provide these writings for the Library of Alexandria. In the end 70 Jewish experts in the Law arrived in Alexandria and did a hard work to translate the Old Testament. All accommodation and meals were covered by the king. As a miracle, the whole translation lasted 70 days. At the end, a quality control took place by reading all the text in commune and making observations and corrections on the text. Josephus said the authors of the translation were paid by the king. More details are in the Book 12, Chapter 2. For the Ortodox Church, this translation called Septuaginta is in use in our days.
... I'd add that the lecturers insistence that the canon was not 'decided' until this moment is prejudicial and fails to take into consideration the calcification of the canon through a verbal communication by consensus of teachers. The fact it was written down at this point should not preclude the existence of a 'canon' before the Septuagint.
This seems to be the lecturers skeptical bias showing through.
@@timotheose It is not known a canon of The Old Testament before Septuagint. Hebrew scriptures and the concise marginal notes in manuscripts of the Tanakh which note textual details, usually about the precise spelling of words was composed later on. It was primarily copied, edited and distributed by a group of Jews known as the Masoretes between the 7th and 10th centuries of the CE. The oldest-known complete copy, so called the Leningrad Codex, made in Egipt, dates from the early 11th century CE. So, the Masoretic version of the Old Testament (Tanakh) was drafted 1000 years after the Septuaginta was made. It is true that, looking for origins, the Protestants wrongly selected the Masortic Text for translating the Bible in English (King James Bible).
@@timotheose Second response: Joseph Fitzmyer noted the following regarding the findings at Qumran Cave 4 in particular: "Such ancient recensional forms of Old Testament books bear witness to an unsuspected textual diversity that once existed; these texts merit far greater study and attention than they have been accorded till now. Thus, the differences in the Septuagint are no longer considered the result of a poor or tendentious attempt to translate the Hebrew into the Greek; rather they testify to a different pre-Christian form of the Hebrew text". On the other hand, some of the fragments conforming most accurately to the Masoretic Text were found in Cave 4, Dead Sea Scrolls.
Christians arguably should consider the Deuterocanon (eg. Tobit, WIsdom of Solomon, Judith, etc.) canonical:
(A) Most of the Deuterocanon was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Plus, the three special Septuagint sections of Daniel (eg. Susanna) are quite different in their two ancient Greek translations (Old Greek Version and Theodotion's), implying a Semitic original rather than the Greek translators merely copying a Greek original.
(B) The Deuterocanon was typically written in about the 2nd-1st century BC, like during the Maccabean period. Perhaps some Jews in that period, like Maccabean Jews, considered the Deuterocanon to be canonical, and only later the rabbis formed a consensus that the Deuterocanon was noncanonical.
(C) The Christian OT canon should arguably be fixed by the Christian community, rather than by the rabbinical community. In Matthew's Gospel, Jesus considered John the Baptist the last of the prophets who came before Him, yet in the NT, Jesus notes that the pharisees did not accept John the Baptist. The rabbinical idea is that the line of OT prophets ended centuries earlier with Malachi.
(D) The NT makes very many allusions to the Deuterocanon. In Hebrews 11:35, Paul writes: "Women received their dead by resurrection. Others were tortured, refusing to accept release, in order to obtain a better resurrection." Although the part about women receiving their dead refers to the story of ELisha raising a woman's son, 2 Maccabees 7 has a story where a woman's sons were killed for refusing to violate Torah and the sons expected everlasting life. The first son said, "...the King of the universe will raise us up to a renewal of everlasting life, because we have died for his laws.”
(E) Church fathers talked about different Deuterocanonical books as if they were canonical or cited them in a straightforward way as if they recorded sacred history. The Muratorian Canon from the mid-late 2nd century AD is the first known list of the Christian canonical books and it considers the Wisdom of Solomon to be canonical.
(F) The 7th Ecumenical Council approves the canons of the Council of Trullo, and Trullo in turn names lists of canonical books, like that of Carthage and that of St Gregory the Theologian's letter. All of the Eastern Orthodox Deuterocanon can be found approved in those various canon lists (eg. Carthage's list). However, St Gregory the Theologian's letter instructs its recipient that he shouldn't consider the OT books outside of the Protocanon (ie. outside of the rabbis' and Protestants' OT canon) to be canonical. My own conclusion therefore when reading the Council of Trullo is that it approves Christians considering the Deuterocanon to be either canonical or noncanonical. In effect, the Deuterocanonical's canonicity is optional. Thus, a modern theologian would be within the bounds of the 7th Ecumenical Council whether he considered the Deuterocanon to be canonical or not.
(G) Eastern Orthodox theologians have a range of views as to whether the Deuterocanon is canonical. Modern Greek theologians typically consider it canonical, whereas modern Russian theologians typically consider it noncanonical. However, both Greeks and Russians consider it to be part of Christian Tradition, and so either way, the Orthodox Church treats it as an authority instead of following Luther's "Sola Scriptura" theory.
So enjoyed this review of non-canonical writings, just two comments: 1) Ben Sira/ch from the second century isn't representative of Jewish thought of the time. Every point in Jesus' sayings are predated in Talmud. 2) Gabriel, like Michael and Raphael came out of the exile/diaspora and all 3 appear in Jewish writings. Gever'iel in Hebrew is (gever=strong man or hero/ iel=of God or Angel) or "Gabriel" who shows up in white linen in the Hebrew book of Daniel helping Daniel interpret his visions. It is understood from Jewish Talmud that Gavriel, as the left hand of God (harsh judgment) in Ezekiel, would destroy Jerusalem. There are also references to Gabriel in various Kabbalistic sources.
Did you know the name of the Man Who is Alexanders the Great right hand man? Colour me incredulous.
Eumenes of Cardia, Alexander's secretary. Eumenes was the one entrusted with Alexander's family after his death and was also the only one of his generals to stay loyal to the Argead royal house. He later managed to reunite the Argead loyalists against the other diadochi but unfortunately this included the elite Silver Shields (Alexander's bodyguard unit) who ended up betraying him and handing him over to Antigonus Gonatus. Antigonus initially wanted to keep Eumenes alive to regain the support of the Argeads but was forced to kill him by his generals. After Eumenes' death he was accused by the Antigonids and the Seleucids of having poisoned Alexander, although nobody believed this in antiquity.
One of the legends about Eumenes was that, at the last conference of the Diadochi when all present were arguing over the division of Alexander's empire, Eumenes angrily threw down Alexander's cloak over Alexander's vacant chair and stared down everyone. One by one they left the meeting room in shame.
But at least she had no teef!
I'm still waiting for the VeggieTales episode about Toby and the Magic Fish
It never occurred to me that different groups of first century Jews could have had different cannons. Which Cannon was Jesus most likely to have accepted?
First century Jews did not have different cannons; they did not have any cannons at all.
Cannons were not invented before the twelfth century in China,
and they did not appear around the Mediterranean before the 14th century.
The defeat of Constantinople in 1453 was achieved by the use of cannons for breaching the city walls.
The Biblical canons, however, have less letters "n".
@@RiggenbachDE Are you joking? Obviusly, I am not talking about weapons.
@kolo Take a logic class before attempting apologetics. I'm quite sure Paul wound not have been happy if you had accompanied him on Mars Hill.
The Greek OT, in use in the time of Jesus, included these books.
@@Shtf132 of course they believed - they were part of the Greek edition of the Bible, that wad known as Septuatgint - protestants systematically distort and lie about history - they have always done so in ordeer to give a 'foundation' to their positions, demonstrating the pseudo-reformation does not come from God
@@silveriorebelo8045 Without the 20th century aggressive conversion by US fundamentalist "protestants" and the aggressive conversation methods by the Anglican church in India, etc, Protestant Christianity would only be an extremely small part of Christianity in Sweden, England, Northern Germany and patrs of Switzerland.
Plus, now that the catholic church stopped aggressively wiping out native faiths, the US fundamentalists have taken up this task and do great harm all over the world.
Two small examples are all those "Christian" youth groups that went into New Orleans after hurricane Katrina and did nothing but party there. This brought prostitution, crine and many other bad stuff there.
Second small example is a "clinic" set up in some African country that was in huge crisis(don't no which at this point). It was funded by a fundamentalist congregation in the US and a 21 year old girl, without any medical education went there and set up that pseudo clinic which spread diseases and hurt the people who went there for "free health care" more than it helped. That US American girl and the congregation thought that the natives were so primitive, that any white, christian girl would have to bring them health and help. This American exeptionalist view that most US protestants share, did great harm there and still does anywhere they go. Sadly this phenomenon is fast growing and doing more and more harm.
@@Shtf132 The ancient jewish people didn't have a consistent canon.
If they did please source it.
How wonderful… so well done. Thank you from a devote Catholic.
Who expected a vid like THIS after seeing a thumbnail like THAT? o_O
So now we know where Qanon got the "Q" from.
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Don't insult that holy text.
Donald Trump is qanon because he's a phony piece of dirt. You can tell by the way it was written that it was him all along.
The King James Bible uses the Masoretic Text, which is a newer translation of the ancient Hebrew texts and is indeed not the original Hebrew. The Septuagint is what the New Testament writers used by and large and so it doesn't really matter what the Hebrew Masoretic Texts says or doesn't say. The New Testament authors are not working from that later (much later) source material.
Of all the cannons mentioned, you forgot to mention Nick
I bought the 1611 King James Bible that was reprinted in 2011 it has the Apocrapha in it. It was considered part of the Hebrew scriptures.
Oh by the way the book of Tobit I believe it was said that there is somebody in that book who is related to the lady who was waiting in the Temple for the promised one to come.
When the Chinese do a lecture in China for Chinese people, in the Chinese language, do you think that they use politically correct terms to describe the year because someone in the west might want to watch the lecture? Or do they just say the year and not worry about being inclusive?
Its suspect that 2 Esdras isnt in most bibles since its clearly a pre-Revelation text and even has the 2 beasts.
I think Daniel was written between 500 and 600 BC.
SO CAN ANY PLEASE TELL ME :-
IS THIS MAN AND HIS AUDIENCE BELIEVERS IN WHAT JESUS DID FOR US?
Or are they just students?
Not every lecture has to be about that.
It’s not “hidden” in a physical sense, the teachings are veiled in allegory and symbology and true understanding was taught only to initiates of the mysteries.
“The lips of wisdom are closed, except to the ears of understanding.”
- The Kabylion
Agreed. It was nested right into their verse.
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"So, another seeker after knowledge enters my realm. I am Hermaeus Mora, Prince of Fate and Lord of Secrets. This is Apocrypha, where all knowledge is hoarded. Perhaps you will prove clever enough to uncover the secrets hidden here. If so, welcome. Perhaps you are a fool or a coward. If so, you are in peril. Read your book again and escape before Apocrypha claims you forever."
poor guy, revealing an extraordinary love for the truth... another one that is sure to be saved...
@Cassidy Monfrini man what i said is an quote from an game lol. I just put there as an joke
The apocrypha was kept in the original 1611 KJV bible, the Protestants later took it out
I heard on the radio (submit all of life)
He just said Offering lol
The "right hand man".....this lady is thinking she's at a JFK conspiracy book club meeting or something
The second she said Alexander's "best friend" I was like does she mean... His lover. Or idk "cousin played by Jared Leto", that works too.
Men can share fraternal love without s3x or lust. Jesus.
Psalm 151 isn't accepted because it wasn't written by David? Well, the Wisdom of Solomon wasn't written by Solomon but it's in the Catholic Old Testament. Just because it's not written by whom it claims to be written didn't stand in the way of Catholicism.
there were actually 777 books
He's adding a lot to what I was gathering, the Hellenistic period - post Macedonian invasion from the North… Sorry Helen 😅 - Hey peace in the middle East now
Mostly for me he's help me understand. Sometimes the repetition has been taken out sometimes it's still repeats it's in Isaiah ,Revelations .
Elaboration repetition with different outcomes the third time we go through this prophetic 66 chapters the 3rd time it's a total)y different opinion sort of vile . They had advanced to fiction there by the time they get to revelations these writers …
Certain things he's saying how the Hebrew then Aramaic.
Paul was instrumental wait did Jesus choose him or did he need the forgiveness 😮
The old time keeping method of the sounds hard to fathom but IDK it lacked negative numbers so everybody started adding a starting point in the middle and several writers would write it😅
The year was as the day and the day was as the year 🌞🙃🤔🌛
Daniel the detective.
12:17 “thats big!” Lol who are these audience members
30:58
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Daniel was in his high position through 3 kings. He was very rich. He had control of many wise men Was it possible that it was he who sent the "wise men" with things to Jesus and Mary and Joseph?
WHY only beginning with Matthew 16:16,17 was Jesus for the first time called by God AS CHRIST(Colos 2:2) ?
Let’s see how wise Bible student are you 😀
I don't know any "Judeo-Christians"
Watch the true about Acrypha and the lost books of the bibel.
Plz ask God to realy help us to disearne, 🙏may His trueth be what we are left with& lead us to His heart, in the name of Jesus, amen💞
an extraordinary manpulative person - how many things in the OT are corrected, denied or transposed by Jesus??
Are you claiming Jesus was manipulative? I'm confused.
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Its pronounced Septuajint, not Septuagint. This guy gets alot of little things wrong, and it adds up
I don't know that the New Testament goes back to many Hebrew texts at all. The writers of these books are quoting almost exclusively from the Greek. Getting a "bad Greek copy" would be the function of the author and not the translators. I mean, they don't have hyperlinks to those passages that are pointing to bad Greek versions but instead, they just quote from what they have. I think you're describing an erroneous environment.
To say that the "texts that they had" were not as good is to preach the company line that the Textus Receptus is not as good as the Westcott & Hort Text used by most modern versions of the bible. Westcott & Hort were no friends of the word of God and the texts they use are from dubious sources. Sinaiticus is a forgery and Vaticanus is of unknown (probably Gnostic) origins.
I love the story ofSusanna< Israel and Jerusalem where the prosperity of the hebrews and Jews it is a enlightment of what was taking place in a peoples and theyre provision ,and wealth that they had to hire out of theyre herritage" the prosperity called for more help and to choose lighter rules as the strangers were becoming more likely abroad amoung the hebrews and jews...it caused lighter sentences and stranger judges amoung the lands of the tribes and the Hebrews also known as jews...these judges were allowed later to judge even the jews and hebrews which i disagree with totally as we see here the out come of the visitors of suzannas house...they judged her upon death and she wou.d have been killed if not for daniel...
European Jews had nothing to do with earlier Judaism.
Says who?
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The oldest scripts are not in 'Hebrew' not do the oldest scripts anywhere say they came from earlier 'Hebrew' origin. Right off the bat the teacher is misinformed so end of watch time for me.
🤦🏾♂️ dude… the dead sea scrolls are the very first scriptures, and they were in Hebrew. Sorry you’ve been misinformed!
Claiming that Aramaic was the language of the Jewish in the first century, and Mark as the oldest Gospel, are all scholarly assumptions. They are proven false by the Gospel of Matthew according to Shem Tov (translated by George Howard). Early church claimed that Matthew was written "in the Hebrew language".
What is Hebrew language? Who are Hebrew people?
And there is know Jesus or jew in that language!!!
Well, not really. Shem Tov's Hebrew Matthew simply shows that there had been a Hebrew version of Matthew that may have differed from the Greek Matthew. Shem Tov himself believed he was quoting from a Hebrew translation of the Greek Matthew. His whole thesis actually depended on it being an ACCURATE translation of Greek Matthew because he was trying to debunk Christianity. Obviously, this effort would be pointless if he was debunking the wrong version of Matthew, and he knew that Matthew was originally written in Greek.
He was wrong, of course, since his Matthew actually was different in many small ways from the actual Greek Matthew, but it doesn't prove that his Hebrew Matthew predated the Greek one.
It may, however, have been based on one of the lost Hebrew Gospels.
One of the things I've observed about this unbeliever, after listening to a few of his lectures, is as follows: He confidently asserts the existence of this Q document that nobody has ever seen but he doesn't believe that the letters of Paul were written by Paul, that the Gospels were written a week ago last Tuesday, and the Apostle John never wrote anything.
What no one has ever seen (Q), he believes in strongly and documents that everybody has seen over the last 2000 years, he doesn't believe in at all.
Sounds like a great teacher, right?
- Luke 14:26.
come to my country and have laugh some banter over its sectarianism lol
The REAL Israelites ran into Africa during the Babylonian wars,2 Kings '25;26 And all the people, both small and great, and the captains of the armies, arose, and came to Egypt: for they were afraid of the Chaldees. Those Hebrews Never ever return from Africa, Egypt is the Sahara, when the Exiles the 1% came home from Babylon in 538BC Ezra Nehemiah Haggai Zechariah Malachi 430BC, the Hebrews ran into Africa during the Babylonian wars Never ever came home out of Africa to be reunited with the ones freed by the Persians,, The 99% the whole Hebrew nation say they was going into Africa to live,an they We Hebrews was abandoning the Covenant for Egyptian religion where we was enslaved from, Jeremiah44'15 Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying,Jeremiah 44'16 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee.Jeremiah 44'17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.Jeremiah 44;18.But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.WHOLE LAND was empty Jeremiah 44;2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Ye have seen all the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem, and upon all the cities of Judah; and, behold, this day they are a desolation, and no man dwelleth therein,Those Israelites ran into Africa an was enslaved during the Trans A Slavery Trade , we fulfilled the Curse
IF the letter "J" did not exist until ?1300? A.D.; how were there "jew-ish" religions circa 500+ BC? Factually; what is a jew (ish)? does 'ish' designate sort-of-but-not-really "jew"? ishy "jew"?... Abraham is a term (not a name) meaning 'father of many'; jacob (yakab) no j at that time) means 'chiseler/swindler';... we're only getting part of the facts...
In Latin characters, yes, the letter 'j' was only distinguished from 'i' five hundred or so years ago, but that doesn't mean that words we spell with J couldn't exist; they could, and speakers of the time didn't have any trouble with their words any more than you or I have trouble with letters that have several ways to vocalize them depending on the word they appear in. You know when to pronounce X as 'eks' and when to pronounce it as a 'z' without needing help from some future where they've been split into to different glyphs. At least I hope you don't. Jewish people are not 'not really' Jews any more than Swedish people are 'not really' Swedes or from Sweden. Please!!!
@@RayDoeksen what I'm questioning/seeking (humpty dumpty notwithstanding) is the facts of "chosen" people, lineage of (j)yacob / chizzler, not that it really matters to me, but the "Jew" claims to be chosen but doesn't claim to be the Israelites; and when there are 4+ definitions of "United States", rendering down the facts and evidence and elements of particular words seems to me to be important, especially if any man intends to comprehend that which is true...
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The Yews... 😐
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I wonder if these ppl know that they're telling an African history
@@Shtf132 there is no such thing as "middle east!" Its north east Africa! The man made Suez canal was built as a short cut from the Mediterranean sea and red sea for vessels. Israel is indeed in Africa my freind
@@Shtf132 listen : just do the damn research! Israel is in north east Africa! It sit between the Asia amd Africa tectonic plates! Between that is the great valley rift. That runs all the way down as far south as Mozambique! Do yr homework!
@@Shtf132 there is no such thing as the middle east! What are u not understanding? That name was given when it was separated by the Suez canal! Why dont u just look it up?! Do u have a place that I can send this info ? Because yr just ignorant
@@Shtf132 damn! Just do the got damn research ! Wtf! Leave it alone and study history!
@@jarrellneriahshamah5394 those from the Middle East either say they’re from the Middle East or West Asia. Now take a chill pill. Judaism origins from the Sumerian, Akkadian, Assyrian, Babylonian, Canaanite mythologies. Now take a chill pill and stop being so insecure 👍
Sorry. Boredom bye
Thank you 🙏 for these. But bat malarkey old birds 🦅 squeaking to hell n bk . Plz stop it he madness!!!! ORGANIZE YOUR LECTURE! No talking during the professor 👨🏫 but that’s not digital???? Wtf how do you win. Plz find a happy medium. Ty. 😵💫😵💫😵💫
The breath he takes after saying things he doesn't believe makes everything he says come across as flippant. Interesting information, but when presenting a subject as a educator you should be more careful not to display your own bias until which time that you make it clear you are presenting your own bias. Your thoughts and perspectives are valuable, but there is a place and time for them. Presenting your own bias throughout a presentation makes you look low-brow, and certainly not worthy of presenting heavy subjects that people place a great deal of care and belief in. This is interesting information, but there is a great deal more context on subjects he moves through, such as the when Daniel was written. Daniel names the last king of Babylon which by the timeline he presents for the writing of Daniel had been forgotten and not rediscovered until 70 years ago...
Agreed: very flippant and smug.
Easy to do when you and those like you have ALWAYS had access. So tackless.
Should not allow the lecture to be interrupted by stupid questions, from people who need baboon brain transplants, I had to stop listening, also the content was too basic
U are stating presuppositions and heresay as fact. U cannot fathom an actual prophetic book like Daniel could predict the future so accurately. This is false teaching.
Does he mention air conditioning in Daniel? That would have been an easy way to prove out his ability to see the future that no one could debate. If I was a God and cared about people doing what I wanted; I'd deliver a clearer message they all wouldn't fight about the meaning of, but that's just me 🤠
So if something happens, and a thousand years later it is written about, but the author claims his book is two thousand years old, is that prophesy?
The language of the earliest examples of the book of Daniel dates it to later than claims.
Here, let’s say I said, “Wow dude, that is totally rad”, and that is written down in material dated to the 16th century. Future scholars will know what’s going on.
See. Like that
@@deepfriedbrains__437lean not on your own understanding. Your earthly wisdom shrivels to YHWH’s Divine Wisdom… 🤷🏾♂️ you don’t understand, but he does… that’s all that matters!
In the appendix is not in The Bible!