Feels like you're trying to be edgy by putting the MP4/4 at #3. It's arguably one of the greatest F1 cars of all time, let alone just greatest McLaren. Both it and the MP4/5 are simply elegant, beautiful, utterly dominant machines.
Kevin Turner (Autosport's editor, who made this list) makes a compelling argument for why the MP4/4 was not the greatest McLaren on the recent Autosport podcast where they discuss the top ten in much more detail. I'd recommend giving it a listen. Personally, I'd definitely put the MP4/4 above the M23, but I do see why the MP4/2 is ranked at the very top -- before 1984, the most wins in a season for a single team was 8 out of 16 for Lotus in 1978. The MP4/2 redefined what it means to dominate F1, by winning 12 out of 16 races in 1984, then 6/16 in 1985, and 4/16 in 1986. It won the Drivers' Championship three years in a row, and the Constructors' twice. I'm pretty sure it was also the first carbon fibre chassis to win the title. In terms of drivers, yes Senna/Prost was the greatest driver line-up of all time, but Prost/Lauda in 1984-1985 wasn't far behind in my view! And another World Champion, Keke Rosberg, partnered Prost in 1986. So yes, the MP4/4 was more dominant and more iconic, but the MP4/2 was the car which redefined F1 domination, made huge technical innovations, and lasted much longer.
Sadly Vodafone McLaren Mercedes never won the Constructors' Championship. But I do think the MP4-22 and MP4-23 were the most beautiful F1 cars of all time 😍
@@elliotcrossan6290 Would have won 2007 if they hadn’t royally fucked up. The -22 deserved 2007 as it was a better car that the Ferrari, as opposed to 2008 where the Ferrari was the better car.
@@yeah9377 Ferrari actually won the 2008 Constructor's Championship by 21 points, as Massa scored 1 less point than Hamilton, while Räikkönen scored 22 more points than Kovalainen. People say Lewis can only win in the best car, yet he's the only driver in the 21st Century to win the Drivers' title in a car which didn't win the Constructors' title, and he destroyed Nelson Piquet's record of most wins for a team without that team winning the Constructor's title the entire time he drove for them, as Piquet had won 13 races for Brabham with no WCC, while Hamilton won 21 races for McLaren with no WCC! Vettel has also broken Piquet's record since then, with 14 wins for Ferrari, though unlike Hamilton and Piquet, he didn't win the Drivers' Championship for the team. So yeah, sadly for Vodafone McLaren Mercedes, despite having the most beautiful livery in F1 history in my view, they never won the Constructors'!
(in a tone of annoyance) Say! What about the McLaren M7A F1 car for 1968?! That was Bruce McLaren's F1 breakthrough design that had him, for the first time, fully competitive with the likes of Lotus, Matra-Ford, and Ferrari; garnering three victories in a 12 race season; with Bruce himself driving to victory in the Belgium Grand Prix in '68; with the team finishing second in the Constructor's Championship that same season. The M7A had a very distinctive body design, with few aero appendages; and in the Papaya orange color it was a car of distinctive genuine beauty.
You've missed all the restrictions that Honda faced with the MP4/4 by using a turbo-charged engine, further restrictions from the 1987 season. After continued protests from rivals, they were allowed significant advantages by using naturally aspirated engines. So rather than the opposition being "weaker", it highlights what an incredible engine Honda made despite further regulation restrictions. And after its utter dominance -- basically Honda's middle finger salute -- turbos were banned, as we all know. The McLaren Honda MP4/4 truly deserves to be #1.
The MP 4/4 is the greatest F1 car to ever touch an F1 track. It was the personal car woven by space time to lead Aryton Senna "The greatest raw talented driver - Schumacher + Lewis agree - of all human time." Towards his 🥇 first world 🏆 Championship. The car did have immense competition. It was racing against itself. There were two MP 4/4 on the tracks. One being raced a young genius who joined Mclaren in that same year 1988 / Another being raced by le professor x2 formula 1 champion by that time. |15/16 races| The car was being put under immense pressure being driven to the absolute limit by Aryton. Followed by a world class driver also putting alot of pressure on his car as he tried to catch up to Aryton. The legend of Aryton became mythical after his first Championship. The legend of the MP 4/4 became enteral in 1994. The greatest formula one driver Aryton Senna 🏆1988 THE GREATEST FORMULA ONE CAR MP 4/4 🏆1988 Reason? Because if most formula one fans voted, this would be the outcome. ✔️
I mean MP4/2 deserves the spot because it scored more than Ferrari lotus and brabham all together 4/4 was really good but not that much over from their rivals the drivers was actual factor there
I agree. The MP4/4 was extremely innovative, both in terms of the small efficient engine and radical driving position. And the other teams being weak is not McLaren's problem. In fact, it makes the MP4/4 more impressive because they didn't make the same mistakes as their rivals.
I love Pierre Gasly and his victory was beautiful, but McLaren deserved to win the Italian Grand Prix more in my view. Sainz and Norris were running a clear second and third before the carnage ensued. As a fan of Hamilton from his McLaren days, seeing Lewis joined on the podium by a McLaren for the first time since he left Woking would've been beautiful -- as would a McLaren 1-2 given Lewis' penalty. As much as I loved Pierre's redemption story, what should have been for McLaren still hurts 😭
In terms of raw pace, technical innovativeness, disregarding results, the MP4-20 should have made the list with its 10 wins despite the leading car blowing up or having a transmission or suspension issue on several occasions. Plus the 2008 car should've been here for it's insane level of aerodynamic complexity. Shame McLaren weren't the ones to pull off active suspension, but they pulled off carbon-fiber monocoque chassis tubs. Here's to the hope that McLaren grows upward and outward by working with some F2 and Formula E teams to increase combined success, influence and car setup insights.
Looking forward to seeing the partnership with Ricardo and McLaren!! Ricardo seems quite chaffed debuting in his new McLaren car, the street car its much more exotic than a Ferrari! Lets hope he can replicate that with the McLaren F1 too!
My top 10 cars from McLaren (my favourite team ❤) would be: 01. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇯🇵 Honda MP4/4 (1988) 02. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇱🇺 TAG/🇩🇪 Porsche MP4/2 (1984-1986) 03. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇯🇵 Honda MP4/5 (1989-1990) 04. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇬🇧 Ilmor/🇩🇪 Mercedes MP4-13 (1998) 05. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇺🇸 Ford/🇬🇧 Cosworth M23 (1973-1977) 06. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇯🇵 Honda MP4/6 (1991-1992) 07. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇬🇧 Ilmor/🇩🇪 Mercedes MP4/14 (1999) 08. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇩🇪 Mercedes MP4-22 (2007) 09. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇩🇪 Mercedes MP4-23 (2008) 10. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇬🇧 Ilmor/🇩🇪 Mercedes MP4-20 (2005) All of these cars are beautiful, but ESPECIALLY the Vodafone-liveried, Silver Arrows-inspired MP4-22 and MP4-23 😍😍😍 those two cars with Lewis Hamilton's yellow helmets in tribute to Senna were the most beautiful F1 cars of all time in my view!
Mp4-27 is the best looking a 'raised nose' has ever looked IMO. can't really explain why, was just low n wide enough to just look awesome... as much as a nose can I guess 😄
2:35, funny you all said ferrari, instead of every team that didnt have that system (which was everyone apart from mclaren, williams and jordan, mclaren having the most advanced version of it)
You're not supposed to say the punctuation inbetween "MP4" and the following number, just supposed to say "MP four, thirteen" (MP4/13). And even if you want to say it, she still says "dash" for a slash
MP4/8 is, to this day, the most technologically advanced McLaren ever built. It was the best car, only let down by its engine which was outclassed by the Renault.
@@yeshuahdenazareth7868 and by the fact it wasn't very good car at all. Just because it had technology doesn't mean it was any good. Lotus had arguably the best or second best active system with over a decade of development behind it. The 93 mclaren was basically the best midfield car. At a push.
FIA bans things for no reason, limiting innovation. There was no additional safety risk. F1 is no longer the “pinnacle of Motorsport” it only exists to placate billionaires and Ferarri’s marketing budget.
The fact that MP4/4 was so dominant.. makes Senna Qualifying and Championship win even more spectacular .. to beat one if the greatest drivers in the same machinery.. NO ONE DID THAT AND WILL DO THAT IN F1 HISTORY That's why hes the greatest.. in order to be greatest you have to beat greatness .. I rate Hamilton but Bottas is utterly useless and Schumacher had an easy ride in very poor F1 era (2000-2005)
@@elliotcrossan6290It was a year old design fighting up to date opposition. They basically didn't upgrade that car all year while their rivals did. That's got to be a pretty good car to keep up. If you look at just the results on paper then yes it wasn't that good.
@@elliotcrossan6290 True but finished the championship only 2 points behind Michael. I can see what your saying for sure but an out of date car with zero upgrades all season vs Michael with a brand new Ferrari kept up to date isn't bad.
@@LaveaFirmis I'd attribute that more to Räikkönen's performances and to the race team's execution than to the car. It was the same car which was annihilated in 2002...
Sadly, Vodafone McLaren Mercedes never actually won the Constructors' Championship. But I do agree that the MP4-22 and MP4-23 are indescribably beautiful, my favourite F1 cars of all time 😍
@@fredericobrait8237 the MP4-27 was about as fast as the RB8 in my view, but it was *ridiculously* unreliable. Shocking reliability, plus several strategy/pit stop errors from McLaren, and being crashed into by Maldonado/Grosjean/Hülkenberg, cost Lewis hundreds of points in 2012. Seb also had reliability problems, so if all things had been working properly for both, I think Lewis and Seb together would've dominated that season, having an equally tense title-decider in Brazil as in real life, while Fernando would've been a distant, but still phenomenally impressive third in that godawful Ferrari F2012. McLaren would've taken the Constructors' had they got their shit together, as they had the strongest driver line-up and a very quick car.
100% agree, the MP4/4 gets too much credit, and the M23 and especially the MP4/2 never get enough respect. The M23 is an icon of the 70's, also my childhood.
Agreed. Everyone loves the MP4/4 for it's supposed beauty, but it's not actually that amazing. Total bandwagon. Nice but there's better. The MP4/5B is the best looking, (closely followed by the 6) & also won the title but against the Ferrari 641 instead of only an internal battle. The 1989 spec 5 is totally different to the 1990 5B, huge aesthetic improvement in the B. V10 too, which is cooler than the V6 turbo of 1988 I think. The M23 won loads, and the MP4/2 & B, & C also. So they're more successful than the 4/4 which only lasted 1 year & had no competition.
3:11 she said 1988 (which is correct) but the text said 1998
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Lots of errors in this video. At 4:44 the text says Kylami instead of Kyalami. And at 6:21 she says William Hondas.
At 5:45 it says 1973 too
@@dimitrissiopis8347 btw it is a honda, you can clearly see the Honda badge on the cone
Senna was that good he won after his death.
Feels like you're trying to be edgy by putting the MP4/4 at #3. It's arguably one of the greatest F1 cars of all time, let alone just greatest McLaren. Both it and the MP4/5 are simply elegant, beautiful, utterly dominant machines.
Yes, having the M23 ahead of the MP4/4 is just laughable, the 1988 Mclaren is simply one of the greatest cars ever made
In their defence, the MP4/2 and M23 both won multiple championships, though I’d have to agree that the /4 should be ahead of the M23.
Kevin Turner (Autosport's editor, who made this list) makes a compelling argument for why the MP4/4 was not the greatest McLaren on the recent Autosport podcast where they discuss the top ten in much more detail. I'd recommend giving it a listen.
Personally, I'd definitely put the MP4/4 above the M23, but I do see why the MP4/2 is ranked at the very top -- before 1984, the most wins in a season for a single team was 8 out of 16 for Lotus in 1978. The MP4/2 redefined what it means to dominate F1, by winning 12 out of 16 races in 1984, then 6/16 in 1985, and 4/16 in 1986. It won the Drivers' Championship three years in a row, and the Constructors' twice. I'm pretty sure it was also the first carbon fibre chassis to win the title.
In terms of drivers, yes Senna/Prost was the greatest driver line-up of all time, but Prost/Lauda in 1984-1985 wasn't far behind in my view! And another World Champion, Keke Rosberg, partnered Prost in 1986.
So yes, the MP4/4 was more dominant and more iconic, but the MP4/2 was the car which redefined F1 domination, made huge technical innovations, and lasted much longer.
Cause it's all about how much eye-catching technology a car has not how many podiums, titles or wins it had
I think mp4/4 is always the best so anybody ranking mclaren cars should exclude mp4/4 because it's obviously the best
You might want to get a new editor
Gotta push "the content"! 😉
mp4/4 introduced with 15/16 wins... which is true.... but the image shows 1998 not 1988!
Damn even as a 10 year old car that mp4/4 won 15/16 races in 98, a true display of how dominant that car was
98? You're either on the same drugs as the writer of this story or this is some really obscure joke?
@@JonnoHR31 3:10 It says 1998, that is the joke
🤣🤣 I just saw that part and had to come and see the comments about it.
It's not Jess's fault there had to be a typo in her script
The mp4/4 was so dominant, driven by two legend and to me remain the most beautiful F1 of all time.
I agree ! The MP4/2 was the begining of the era .... the first carbon fiber car and was very good looking !
5:29 for a split second it says MP4/4.
Yea they used the same slide for the animation
Editor: so this is the mp4/4- OH WAIT NO
First F1 car I remember is the MP4/23. One of the coolest things ever as a kid.
Same
Not gonna comment on the ranking, but the amount of errors in a 7 minutes video is quite something.
McLaren And Honda with a Marlboro livery is always exceptional.
Its a fair assessment and the number 1 pick is duly deserved.
Senna’s McLaren Honda was a classic beauty
Which one
There are from 88 to 92
Do you mean the MP4/4, MP4/5, MP4/6 or MP4/7?
And Prost's car too
@@elliotcrossan6290 don't forget the mp4-5b and mp4-8 too!
Oh no lol messed up the graphics again this time for the MP4/1c image at 5:43 it reads 1973 not 1983
Should have included at least one mclaren vodafone car
They included it in the top 10 in the website, it was the 2007 car in 7th or 6th
Sadly Vodafone McLaren Mercedes never won the Constructors' Championship. But I do think the MP4-22 and MP4-23 were the most beautiful F1 cars of all time 😍
@@elliotcrossan6290 Would have won 2007 if they hadn’t royally fucked up. The -22 deserved 2007 as it was a better car that the Ferrari, as opposed to 2008 where the Ferrari was the better car.
@@elliotcrossan6290 2008??
@@yeah9377 Ferrari actually won the 2008 Constructor's Championship by 21 points, as Massa scored 1 less point than Hamilton, while Räikkönen scored 22 more points than Kovalainen.
People say Lewis can only win in the best car, yet he's the only driver in the 21st Century to win the Drivers' title in a car which didn't win the Constructors' title, and he destroyed Nelson Piquet's record of most wins for a team without that team winning the Constructor's title the entire time he drove for them, as Piquet had won 13 races for Brabham with no WCC, while Hamilton won 21 races for McLaren with no WCC!
Vettel has also broken Piquet's record since then, with 14 wins for Ferrari, though unlike Hamilton and Piquet, he didn't win the Drivers' Championship for the team.
So yeah, sadly for Vodafone McLaren Mercedes, despite having the most beautiful livery in F1 history in my view, they never won the Constructors'!
Great video today keep it up your doing amazing
I see a lot of errors
Edit: Thank u 4 31 likes!
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@@PlexorF1 that is a dead meme
Haha you guys F'ed up the graphics for the MP4/4 at 3:11 it reads 1998 not 1988
(in a tone of annoyance) Say! What about the McLaren M7A F1 car for 1968?! That was Bruce McLaren's F1 breakthrough design that had him, for the first time, fully competitive with the likes of Lotus, Matra-Ford, and Ferrari; garnering three victories in a 12 race season; with Bruce himself driving to victory in the Belgium Grand Prix in '68; with the team finishing second in the Constructor's Championship that same season.
The M7A had a very distinctive body design, with few aero appendages; and in the Papaya orange color it was a car of distinctive genuine beauty.
You've missed all the restrictions that Honda faced with the MP4/4 by using a turbo-charged engine, further restrictions from the 1987 season. After continued protests from rivals, they were allowed significant advantages by using naturally aspirated engines. So rather than the opposition being "weaker", it highlights what an incredible engine Honda made despite further regulation restrictions. And after its utter dominance -- basically Honda's middle finger salute -- turbos were banned, as we all know. The McLaren Honda MP4/4 truly deserves to be #1.
The MP 4/4 is the greatest F1 car to ever touch an F1 track. It was the personal car woven by space time to lead Aryton Senna "The greatest raw talented driver - Schumacher + Lewis agree - of all human time." Towards his 🥇 first world 🏆 Championship. The car did have immense competition. It was racing against itself. There were two MP 4/4 on the tracks. One being raced a young genius who joined Mclaren in that same year 1988 / Another being raced by le professor x2 formula 1 champion by that time.
|15/16 races|
The car was being put under immense pressure being driven to the absolute limit by Aryton.
Followed by a world class driver also putting alot of pressure on his car as he tried to catch up to Aryton.
The legend of Aryton became mythical after his first Championship.
The legend of the MP 4/4 became enteral in 1994.
The greatest formula one driver Aryton Senna 🏆1988
THE GREATEST FORMULA ONE CAR
MP 4/4 🏆1988
Reason? Because if most formula one fans voted, this would be the outcome. ✔️
the mp4 13 was and is my favourite f1 car.........lapped the whole field in australia !!....awesome
Oh that Jess has the world's loveliest voice. Makes me melt!
I'm amazed the MP4-4 isn't top of the list, it's pretty much the most dominant car ever raced, it was even more dominant than the FW14B & C
Even more dominant than last year W11.
I mean MP4/2 deserves the spot because it scored more than Ferrari lotus and brabham all together 4/4 was really good but not that much over from their rivals the drivers was actual factor there
2:31 WTF Ferarri,is the DAS banned thingy had to do with ferrari too?
The argument at 3:47 is just silly.
I agree. The MP4/4 was extremely innovative, both in terms of the small efficient engine and radical driving position. And the other teams being weak is not McLaren's problem. In fact, it makes the MP4/4 more impressive because they didn't make the same mistakes as their rivals.
You made an error! Text on screen says 1998 not 1988 for the mp4/4
2:40 oh thats why it was so quick
Ok I'll concede #1 and agree with the reasoning explained.
However NO WAY the MP4/4 would sit on 3rd. It should be a clear #2, perhaps even #1,5…
Heh. Funny thumbnail. I like how at 5:28 as the name goes off the screen, the 2 of the MP4/2 becomes a 4.
0:00 that just hurts
I love Pierre Gasly and his victory was beautiful, but McLaren deserved to win the Italian Grand Prix more in my view. Sainz and Norris were running a clear second and third before the carnage ensued. As a fan of Hamilton from his McLaren days, seeing Lewis joined on the podium by a McLaren for the first time since he left Woking would've been beautiful -- as would a McLaren 1-2 given Lewis' penalty. As much as I loved Pierre's redemption story, what should have been for McLaren still hurts 😭
this year hopefully we can win...
In terms of raw pace, technical innovativeness, disregarding results, the MP4-20 should have made the list with its 10 wins despite the leading car blowing up or having a transmission or suspension issue on several occasions. Plus the 2008 car should've been here for it's insane level of aerodynamic complexity. Shame McLaren weren't the ones to pull off active suspension, but they pulled off carbon-fiber monocoque chassis tubs. Here's to the hope that McLaren grows upward and outward by working with some F2 and Formula E teams to increase combined success, influence and car setup insights.
Their 2007 car was their best and better looking car of the modern era.
They even had arguably their best ever driver line-up to go with it.
Looking forward to seeing the partnership with Ricardo and McLaren!! Ricardo seems quite chaffed debuting in his new McLaren car, the street car its much more exotic than a Ferrari! Lets hope he can replicate that with the McLaren F1 too!
This aged well 😂
The best looking one is the one from 2006, to be honest I love most 2006 cars.
Best sound too. The lack of rpm restrictions for the first year of the V8s was amazing
MP4/4 in 1998 ???? At 3:13
My top 10 cars from McLaren (my favourite team ❤) would be:
01. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇯🇵 Honda MP4/4 (1988)
02. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇱🇺 TAG/🇩🇪 Porsche MP4/2 (1984-1986)
03. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇯🇵 Honda MP4/5 (1989-1990)
04. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇬🇧 Ilmor/🇩🇪 Mercedes MP4-13 (1998)
05. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇺🇸 Ford/🇬🇧 Cosworth M23 (1973-1977)
06. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇯🇵 Honda MP4/6 (1991-1992)
07. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇬🇧 Ilmor/🇩🇪 Mercedes MP4/14 (1999)
08. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇩🇪 Mercedes MP4-22 (2007)
09. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇩🇪 Mercedes MP4-23 (2008)
10. 🇬🇧 McLaren-🇬🇧 Ilmor/🇩🇪 Mercedes MP4-20 (2005)
All of these cars are beautiful, but ESPECIALLY the Vodafone-liveried, Silver Arrows-inspired MP4-22 and MP4-23 😍😍😍 those two cars with Lewis Hamilton's yellow helmets in tribute to Senna were the most beautiful F1 cars of all time in my view!
Mp4-27 is the best looking a 'raised nose' has ever looked IMO. can't really explain why, was just low n wide enough to just look awesome... as much as a nose can I guess 😄
I wasn't the biggest fan of the raised noses, but the MP4-27 was definitely the most beautiful car of that regulation era
I agree! Top 1 in particular.
Day glo McLaren Marlboro + yellow helmet = Classic
2:35, funny you all said ferrari, instead of every team that didnt have that system (which was everyone apart from mclaren, williams and jordan, mclaren having the most advanced version of it)
My favorite mclaren is the mp4-20 but it was so unreliable yet so fast and beautiful 🤩
Agree
If and when McLaren get back to winning ways, it will be popular, especially with their current drivers of Daniel Ricciardo and Lando Norris
Could this be a 1997 season for the 2021 car. Podium potential on speed with a odd win with strategy
Bloody hope so!!
You're not supposed to say the punctuation inbetween "MP4" and the following number, just supposed to say "MP four, thirteen" (MP4/13). And even if you want to say it, she still says "dash" for a slash
MP4/4 is my favorite but in terms of cool factor I think the MP4/23 was it for me. It just looked so mean from the front angle
Was Damon Hill typing the text 🤣
I forget its designation but I think the 1993 active car deserves a mention, a truly brilliant chassis
MP4/8 is, to this day, the most technologically advanced McLaren ever built.
It was the best car, only let down by its engine which was outclassed by the Renault.
@@yeshuahdenazareth7868 and by the fact it wasn't very good car at all.
Just because it had technology doesn't mean it was any good.
Lotus had arguably the best or second best active system with over a decade of development behind it.
The 93 mclaren was basically the best midfield car. At a push.
Odd that the first McLaren F1 car to win a championship points F1 race, in 1968, did not make the top 5.
Still dont get why asymetric brake was illegal I thought a system that was manually operated by the driver and not that complex are okay..m
FIA bans things for no reason, limiting innovation. There was no additional safety risk. F1 is no longer the “pinnacle of Motorsport” it only exists to placate billionaires and Ferarri’s marketing budget.
The M23 and MP4/2 would have deserved to share the top spot.
Do you mean 1988 not 1998!!
I respectfully disagree, MP4/4 must be the number one. Love the beautiful photos in this video, I mean like WOW.
Not really tbh it totally deserves the number 2 but 1000 hp MP4/2 is better in my opinion
the mp4/5 is my favourite
Number 3 mp4-4 year 1988 or 1998??
I love the mp4/5 senna mclaren
I agree on number 1
MP4-4 & MP4-14 are the top two for me.
Top 10 mclaren please
my favorite is the mp4/8b
I loved Sennas 1993 car - wow
Just (but close) - for me anyways - more beautiful than the 95 Ferraro
M26 was a beauty.
The fact that MP4/4 was so dominant.. makes Senna Qualifying and Championship win even more spectacular .. to beat one if the greatest drivers in the same machinery.. NO ONE DID THAT AND WILL DO THAT IN F1 HISTORY That's why hes the greatest.. in order to be greatest you have to beat greatness .. I rate Hamilton but Bottas is utterly useless and Schumacher had an easy ride in very poor F1 era (2000-2005)
The MP4/4 should be the number one.
1988 was only so successful for McLaren because Honda found a way to run higher boost without blowing the popoff valve.
Please do a williams one
Best team on the grid!
We're the hell is the mp4 6 and mp4 20
5:45 should be 1983, not 1973
I would have considered the MP4/17D even
Really? That was a decent car, probably top 15, but it's definitely not in my top 10
@@elliotcrossan6290It was a year old design fighting up to date opposition. They basically didn't upgrade that car all year while their rivals did. That's got to be a pretty good car to keep up. If you look at just the results on paper then yes it wasn't that good.
@@LaveaFirmis fair enough. But they did only win the first two races of the season.
@@elliotcrossan6290 True but finished the championship only 2 points behind Michael.
I can see what your saying for sure but an out of date car with zero upgrades all season vs Michael with a brand new Ferrari kept up to date isn't bad.
@@LaveaFirmis I'd attribute that more to Räikkönen's performances and to the race team's execution than to the car. It was the same car which was annihilated in 2002...
who remembers when the thumbnail wasn't begging for attention..smh. fix your edits not your thumbnails dudes
I think at least one of the vodafone cars should be up there!
Sadly, Vodafone McLaren Mercedes never actually won the Constructors' Championship. But I do agree that the MP4-22 and MP4-23 are indescribably beautiful, my favourite F1 cars of all time 😍
@@elliotcrossan6290 Yeah, but i defenitly think the MP4-27 was a Car that was even better then the Red Bull in that season :)
@@fredericobrait8237 the MP4-27 was about as fast as the RB8 in my view, but it was *ridiculously* unreliable. Shocking reliability, plus several strategy/pit stop errors from McLaren, and being crashed into by Maldonado/Grosjean/Hülkenberg, cost Lewis hundreds of points in 2012. Seb also had reliability problems, so if all things had been working properly for both, I think Lewis and Seb together would've dominated that season, having an equally tense title-decider in Brazil as in real life, while Fernando would've been a distant, but still phenomenally impressive third in that godawful Ferrari F2012. McLaren would've taken the Constructors' had they got their shit together, as they had the strongest driver line-up and a very quick car.
Can we have top 5 haas F1 cars next? 🤣
Not very difficult to be honest since there only are 5, but the order could be interesting.
For me it's
2018
2016
2017
2020
2019
@@l_poci_ that was kinda my point 🤣 had to remember to add in the "F1" part to their name tho otherwise they'd start listing the Nascar cars instead 🤣
@@keio5274 there were haases in the 80s in f1 as well
@@l_poci_ different haas tho right?
@@keio5274 i think so yea
100% agree, the MP4/4 gets too much credit, and the M23 and especially the MP4/2 never get enough respect. The M23 is an icon of the 70's, also my childhood.
Agreed. Everyone loves the MP4/4 for it's supposed beauty, but it's not actually that amazing. Total bandwagon. Nice but there's better. The MP4/5B is the best looking, (closely followed by the 6) & also won the title but against the Ferrari 641 instead of only an internal battle. The 1989 spec 5 is totally different to the 1990 5B, huge aesthetic improvement in the B. V10 too, which is cooler than the V6 turbo of 1988 I think.
The M23 won loads, and the MP4/2 & B, & C also. So they're more successful than the 4/4 which only lasted 1 year & had no competition.
MP4/17D for me, plus one of Hamiltons early cars.
3:11 it says 1998
Beautiful voice
I'm only here for Jess at this point. She should have stayed at WTF1.
What about the mp4/10? I thought that was a beautiful car 👍🏻
Porsche built the engine for McLaren. It cannot be described as a works entry though.
Merc turbo hybrid: "That's cute"
The legendary MP4/4 to the merc turbo hybrid: That’s cute
Hold up, there are only 2 greatest McLaren racing cars driven by the legends none other than James Hunt and Ayrton Senna for now.
Now do a Top 5 Worst McLaren F1 Cars of All Time.
I bet majority of which would be McLaren Honda during Alonso's time LOL
I would swap mp4/4 with m23
My favourite is the MP25 it would have been the MP 27 but that shit be unreliable af
I think the 2005 car should have been is this video. It was so fast! Unfortunately is was unreliable
Right so something that wasn't actually that dominant is better than the winningest F1 car of all time... Right
the mp4/5 looks better than the 4/4
3:11 1988 editor
Mp4-4 isn't innovative!? Gordon Murray is fuming right now
f1 should go back to 1988 aero simple front rear wings. no little aero wings no floor
Should've been the F1
Solo diré... MP4-20
get real son...are you serious. The 1988 mclaren should be hands down number #1.
Please God stop publishing Top 5 or 10 lists. This is a really good channel mid-season but your off-season content is deplorable.
It shows 1998 and it said 1988
NO........ MP4/4 is number one in my books..
the 1988 car is the best
McLaren!!!
These guys hate the 2010+ cars.
The 2010 McLaren could have gotten a shout for its amazing f-duct
Who is this William Hondas of whom she speaks? Who did he drive for? ;-) So many mistakes in such a short video!